From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #267 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, October 28 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 267 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) [Laura Stanley ] Re: Dear Joni [Monika Bogdanowicz ] njc - van the man ["James Matheson" ] RE: Dear Joni, now NJC [Cindy Vickery ] Re: Dear Joni - NJC ["Cassy" ] OzFest and SoCalFest ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Greatest live act ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Greatest live act [Jeffrey Chard ] RE: NJC Totally political, but brief for US voters primarily ["Richard Fl] american election NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Joni DVD's to go ["Steve Petrica" ] Re: Greatest live act [Jerry Notaro ] (NJC) Video: Gale [Mead] as Sarah Palin singing... ["Lori Fye" ] Re: (NJC) Video: Gale [Mead] as Sarah Palin singing... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.] Joni Mitchell Blue on the CBC radio last night [Mags ] Wolf Cover [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Mitchell Blue on the CBC radio last night [Stephen_Epstein@hugob] Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) [Laura Stanley ] RE: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) ["Richard Flynn" Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Greg wrote: Here's a little tune of HOPE from our swing state of PA... (props to Mr. Simon for a fine melody) Hi Greg, I liked his sound, but I was hoping to hear 50 good things about Obama rather than negative things I'd already heard about McCain/Palin. If everybody on this list who is for Obama posted one good thing about Obama, we'd have at least 50. A postitive 50 reasons to vote Obama would be cool to read. Want to play? Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:20:55 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Joni and Shaday...?! I am BLESSED, but try to keep quiet about it round here, with an office mate who without any prompting asked to copy Turbulent Indigo from me. That was two weeks ago, and right now he is PLAYING it, here at the office. And he is only in his mid-thirties and had not heard of Joni before.... Anyhow, we were just listening to Last Chance Lost, when he said he thought she sounded like Shaday. I think he meant to say she was inspired by her - he actually thought Joni was a young singer. I get his point - does anyone know if Shaday ever gave e away any comments on a Joni-link? Ok and totally irrelevant, but still...The other day I called IT-service, and the guy who is English (and black which may be irrelevant) logged on to my computer. We were testing different applications, and when we came to my media Player, he went straight for Hejira, and asked me if I liked Joni Mitchell, and whether I had ever heard of Good-bye Pork Pie Hat. Hope everyone is well out there! bene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:32:10 -0500 From: Cindy Vickery Subject: NYC alert - Joe's Pub - 10/28-10/30 - Joni's "Blue" Anyone going? I'll be there, at least one night, but would love to meet up for a pre-show beverage somewhere if anyone is so inclined. Also, NYCers - don't forget about Kay and Jenny at Gizzi's on Sat 11/01. cindy > Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:06:59 -0400> From: Barbara.Stewart@sesameworkshop.org> To: joni-digest@smoe.org> Subject: NYC alert - Joe's Pub O'28-30 Joni's "Blue"> > "Michael Arden sings Joni Mitchell Blue" (in its entirety, w/ 5-pc band)> - 3 nites at 11:30pm> > http://www.joespub.com/component/option,com_shows/task,view/Itemid,40/id,4202> or> http://tinyurl.com/5zoluf> > See you there!> B> > _________________________________________________________________ You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:13:05 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: NYC alert - Joe's Pub - 10/28-10/30 - Joni's "Blue" I sure wish I was going. Cindy, can you send the list a report of how it went? I'm sure it is going to be great. Jerry > Anyone going? > I'll be there, at least one night, but would love to meet up for a pre-show > beverage somewhere if anyone is so inclined. > > Also, NYCers - don't forget about Kay and Jenny at Gizzi's on Sat 11/01. > > cindy > > > >> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:06:59 -0400> From: > Barbara.Stewart@sesameworkshop.org> To: joni-digest@smoe.org> Subject: NYC > alert - Joe's Pub O'28-30 Joni's "Blue"> > "Michael Arden sings Joni Mitchell > Blue" (in its entirety, w/ 5-pc band)> - 3 nites at 11:30pm> > > http://www.joespub.com/component/option,com_shows/task,view/Itemid,40/id,4202> > or> http://tinyurl.com/5zoluf> > See you there!> B> > > _________________________________________________________________ > You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:24:25 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: Free Man in Paris Alert! SJC http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/27/business/media/27dream.html?emc=tnt &tntemail0=y UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. - As of last week, David Geffen 's phone line at DreamWorks SKG headquarters here was still live. But some people were already struggling to accept that he would no longer be part of the movie company he had helped build. Steven Spielberg actually stammered a bit in trying to explain his erstwhile business partner's departure. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Dear Joni Call me selfish and naive, but how about a little mini tour? Joni, you can play wherever you want, how long you want, and WHATEVER you want! Recite the dictionary but get out there man! Please pass this message along, haha. I think I'll find one of those Santas in the mall, sit on his lap (yes it will be weird having a 23 year old stand in line waiting for Santa without a kid by her side but I'll take that chance), and when he asks me what I want for Christmas, I'll say: "For Joni Mitchell to tour!" Any chance, Santa? Haha. - -Monika - --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: Could we please have the "pink dress concert" or the Carnegie Hall show on DVD for Christmas? Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:03:20 -0700 From: "James Matheson" Subject: njc - van the man Reply to Jeanie's inquiry I am lucky enough to have lived in the San Francisco Bay Area for nearly 40 years. The incredible music scene here is the main reason I came up here from Southern California all those years ago. I have watched it change and evolve over the years, but on any given weekend there is still a huge selection of big name, medium name, and no-name musicians gigging within a 20-30 mile radius of my apartment. The first time I saw Van Morrison was at the "closing" of the Fillmore in 1971. He was staggering around on the stage in a very inspired way - actually a GREAT performance. Over the next 30+ years I've seen him in a number of different venues: bigger halls like Winterland; the Bill Graham Civic Auditorium; the Orpheum Theater, and the Masonic Auditorium and small clubs: Rancho Nicasio; The Stone; and some little place up in Cotati one night in 1978 or 79 - apparently this gig was thrown together at the last minute. No advertising, just his name on the club's marquee. I happened to be driving through town own my way to visit some friends up on the Russian River, when I spied it. I yanked the bus over, went up to the little "box-office" and sure enough, it was really happening. I called my friends, they jetted down from The River and we all had a GREAT NIGHT! I think you are right, most of my recent "bad nights" with Van Morrison were during the middle '90s. I have no idea what was happening with him, but he was not in top form in those days. Thanks for listening. SF Jimmie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:32:30 -0500 From: Cindy Vickery Subject: RE: Dear Joni, now NJC Santa may be looking to diversify, since the North Pole is melting. I think this could work! cindy > I think I'll find one of those Santas in the mall, sit on his lap (yes it> will be weird having a 23 year old stand in line waiting for Santa without a> kid by her side but I'll take that chance), and when he asks me what I want> for Christmas, I'll say:> "For Joni Mitchell to tour!"> Any chance, Santa? Haha.> -Monika _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns! 20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:05:36 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Dear Joni - NJC From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" <<< I think I'll find one of those Santas in the mall, sit on his lap (yes it will be weird having a 23 year old stand in line waiting for Santa without a kid by her side but I'll take that chance), >>> That reminded me of going to see Santa with my lady friends when I was your age, Monika, 23. He pinched my ass! Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:33:44 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: OzFest and SoCalFest Love your choice for a SoCal fest Dave! My vote is for these two fests is to have them be scheduled farther apart, say in different years. That way anyone thinking of attending both will have a better chance of doing so. Unless they were back to back- fest in socal then fly on over to OZ :~)Kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:45:48 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Greatest live act JP, LOVED your description of these four! I so agree with you about PG, I've remarked for years that until PG is a household name, getting grammys & songs on the top of the charts (performed by her, not others although I'm glad she has some income from the DC's versions), the music biz is irrelevant. A friend of mine recently interviewed her before she performed here & she said that she mostly listens to music from other countries. Another friend who is a well known songwriter remarked after this same show, 'how come I've never heard of her before?" He also observed how her voice resembled Edith Piaf, Joni's influence. Like Ms Parlette says, all roads lead to Joni. :~} Kate Joseph > Emmylou commanders the stage like a matriarch with her three grown up children - Buddy as her wildly talented guitarist son, Shawn as the shy, sensitive daughter who is happy to fade into the background but whose heartbreakingly moving performances gained the biggest applause, and Patty as the precocious daughter who in the ideal world should be the people who win Grammys for the superb songwriting and effortless singing but whose presence makes you imagine how much greatness is still in store for her.< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:50:37 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Go Gregg! Great to hear you singing & playing after all these years! What a wonderful fest that was, my very first, back when it was at Ashara's when so many talented people showed up including the amazing Mr Cagno! Kate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euwF8WU6Emw ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:19:10 -0400 From: Jeffrey Chard Subject: Re: Greatest live act In my case, the earliest appearances are the ones I'll always remember. Second time I saw Joni--December 6, 1969, Crouse College Auditorium, Syracuse University (with Patrick Sky opening.) 800 seats. James Taylor at Jabberwocky, Syracuse University, 200 seats. Feb 5, 6, and 7, 1970. Eight shows; saw em all. Bruce Springsteen, Oct 19, 1974, Union College Chapel, Schenectady. Jackson Browne and Bonnie Raitt, both for the first time, March 27, 1971, Jabberwocky. Derek & The Dominos with Duane Allman, and opening act Elton John. December 2, 1970. Syracuse War Memorial. Some day many years from now I'l be old, and maybe I'll wish I was younger. But that would mean I wouldn't have been around in those amazing times. No regrets. Regards, Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:57:20 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: NJC Totally political, but brief for US voters primarily I trust you are voting no on 8. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lori Fye Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:33 AM To: Richard Flynn; Joni List Subject: Re: NJC Totally political, but brief for US voters primarily > I have been working, on a volunteer basis for the Obama canpaign in > red-state GA for several months now. Thank you, Richard, for your hard work. Today a couple of coworkers and I were talking about the fact that we haven't yet cast our absentee ballots, and the reason is the same for all of us: we're trying to find the time to sit down and read about the state and local issues. We all have the material (thoughtfully provided by our county), it's just a matter of finding or making time to read. So we came up with a plan, and I sent an email to the entire staff, inviting everyone to join us on the patio (we have a fabulous balcony just outside the door, with gorgeous views of Mount St. Helenaand Sonoma Mountain) on Friday during lunch for pizza and reading about the issues. Should be a good thing. Lori Santa Rosa, CA http://polizine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/vote-smart-button.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:59:26 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: american election NJC Pretty cool, wonder what is up with Macedonia... fwiw, I tested to see if you could vote more than once (from the same computer)- you can't Kate >for all those non-americans who secretly wished they could take part in the us elections http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:59:15 -0400 From: "Steve Petrica" Subject: Re: Joni DVD's to go The DVD's are gone -- thanks to everyone for their interest! I'd also like to "de-accession" two magazines: 1) July-September 2007 issue of "Details", from Canada Post -- the picture of Joni from last year's Canadian stamp is on the cover, and inside there's a 5-page article and the other three musicians commemorated on the stamp set. 2) February 2008 issue of "Mojo" with a 6-page interview with a number of photographs and a sidebar feature rating many of Joni's recordings. Same conditions as below: Just reimburse me for shipping, and reply off-list if you're interested. Steve On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Steve Petrica wrote: > Much as it pains me, I need to simplify my life a bit ... so the three Joni > DVD's I have need to go: > 1) Refuge of the Roads > 2) Woman of Heart and Mind > 3) Painting With Words and Music (stereo + DTS 5.1 digital surround sound) > > I don't care about selling them, I'd just like to be reimbursed for the > expense of shipping them. PayPal would work for me (or if you have another > idea, I'm willing to hear it). > > Please reply OFF-LIST! > > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:18:49 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Greatest live act Jeff, I saw most of these same shows in Buffalo. It was a great time and place to be. Jerry P.S. We ARE old :) > In my case, the earliest appearances are the ones I'll always > remember. Second time I saw Joni--December 6, 1969, Crouse College > Auditorium, Syracuse University (with Patrick Sky opening.) 800 > seats. James Taylor at Jabberwocky, Syracuse University, 200 seats. > Feb 5, 6, and 7, 1970. Eight shows; saw em all. Bruce Springsteen, > Oct 19, 1974, Union College Chapel, Schenectady. Jackson Browne and > Bonnie Raitt, both for the first time, March 27, 1971, Jabberwocky. > Derek & The Dominos with Duane Allman, and opening act Elton John. > December 2, 1970. Syracuse War Memorial. > > Some day many years from now I'l be old, and maybe I'll wish I was > younger. But that would mean I wouldn't have been around in those > amazing times. No regrets. > > Regards, > Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:34:01 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Video: Gale [Mead] as Sarah Palin singing... From: Gale Mead Date: Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:11 AM Subject: Video: Gale as Sarah Palin singing... Hey, Everyone.... I've just posted a video on YouTube of me, in my Sarah Palin Halloween costume, singing a parody of "Redneck Woman" that I wrote. The performance leaves much to be desired, but the humor value (I hope) makes up for it. I'd like to see this video take off, so if you like it, please spread the link around: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2a1koIHps0 Also, Spider Robinson has included a couple of my new songs, featuring Amos Garrett on guitar, in his 10/18/08 podcast. You can listen here: http://www.spiderrobinson.com/podcast.html Happy Halloween (and to all my American friends, please don't forget to vote!!!) Gale www.galemead.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:06:23 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Fortunately the polls seem to reflect that the biggest liars are loosing. Oy, Jackie Mason's biased rant. He is merely regurgitating what was long ago debunked as fabricated spin about Obabma & Ayers. Here is a more informed source on the subject- http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html >I can think of a few reasons not to. Again, nothing political in Jackie's opinion, it all boils down to who is the biggest liar. Jackie Mason '08 Vlog 55 Acorn, Ayers and the Last Debate< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:04:34 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: (NJC) Video: Gale [Mead] as Sarah Palin singing... I'll leave it NJC, but Gale has recorded a cover of BYT - just throwing a little trivia in there for ya. Bob, back after a long absence NP: Joni, "Snakes & Ladders" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Lots of interesting information on the way Joni plays with words as well as the music itself. my question for you is this; when did you discover Blue, and how did it affect you? Mags from chilly Manitoba~ i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) I'll list some reasons why I'm voting for Obama: 1. He's smart - a critical thinker as opposed to someone who shoots from the hip. 2. He has a plan for getting us out of Iraq. 3. His health care plan ensures that all children are covered, enables everyone to get health care, and enables me to keep the good coverage I already have. 4. He's eloquent. 5. After a loooooooooooooong string of white guys, he represents the diversity of America. 6. He intends to return some fairness to the tax code and get corporations and the rich paying their fair shares (again) while providing tax cuts to the middle class, currently struggling to make ends meet. 7. He will overnight restore the world's respect for America as a fair and intelligent nation. 8. He's inspiring. 9. He will incentivize businesses to keep and re-establish jobs in the USA. 10. He has a plan to explore and provide funding for alternative energy. That's 20% of the 50 reasons, just off the top of my head. But why make US do YOUR work for you? Go to: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ And you can find another 40. Easily. Bob NP: Mike Doughty, "Navigating By The Stars At Night" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:32:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Wolf Cover I'm sure you guitarists will enjoy watching this one - a very nice cover of The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpbHLhIRqc4 Bob NP: Counting Crows, "Los Angeles" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:56:44 -0500 From: Stephen_Epstein@hugoboss.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell Blue on the CBC radio last night Mags, my first post in 4 years! You brought it out of me! I first heard Blue when I was 15. What a time in my life it was! I already had STAS. From the first time I heard and listened to Joni, I was moved beyond words. When I was 13, I received a great SONY transistor radio as a Bar Mitzvah gift. In those days, growing up in Burlington, Ontario, we could receive CHUM FM from Toronto, as well as all kinds of great things from the States at odd hours- Wolfman Jack from middle America. CHUM FM was fantastic @ that time. It's where I first listened to Fred Neil, Jerry Jeff Walker, Tim Hardin, Joni,.......... the musicians who have always mattered in my life. Back to Joni. Man, I was an impressionable teenager, I soaked it all in. I went to Mariposa on Toronto Island- saw Bruce and Neil and Joni.... When Blue was released, I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Still a virgin, wishing to be not, fell in lust/love, and Joni was the music of my life. I thought then, as I still do that I wish I could put into words, to express my innermost feelings, the way she had in this album. Lost my virginity, and Blue was still the foremost powerful meaning in my life. Boy, did I ever share those lyrics with her ! Still wish I could be as expressive as she. I think it will always remain my favourite. So very special it is, it so many ways best Stephen in Toronto NP Elliot Smith- xoxo prior from Vancouver my question for you is this; when did you discover Blue, and how did it affect you? Mags from chilly Manitoba~ i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ This e-mail (and/or attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. Use or disclosure of it by anyone other than a designated addressee is unauthorized. If you are not an intended recipient, please delete this e-mail from the computer on which you received it. We thank you for notifying us immediately. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:40:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) - --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Bob Muller wrote: > > I'll list some reasons why I'm voting for Obama: > > 1. He's smart - a critical thinker as opposed to > someone who shoots from the hip. > 2. He has a plan for getting us out of Iraq. > 3. His health care plan ensures that all children are > covered, enables everyone to get health care, and enables me > to keep the good coverage I already have. > 4. He's eloquent. > 5. After a loooooooooooooong string of white guys, he > represents the diversity of America. > 6. He intends to return some fairness to the tax code and > get corporations and the rich paying their fair shares > (again) while providing tax cuts to the middle class, > currently struggling to make ends meet. > 7. He will overnight restore the world's respect for > America as a fair and intelligent nation. > 8. He's inspiring. > 9. He will incentivize businesses to keep and re-establish > jobs in the USA. > 10. He has a plan to explore and provide funding for > alternative energy. > > That's 20% of the 50 reasons, just off the top of my > head. > > But why make US do YOUR work for you? Go to: > > http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ > > And you can find another 40. Easily. > Hi Bob, I've already done my "work." I wasn't looking at it that way. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:56:24 -0400 (EDT) From: marie Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Here is something that is NOT off the top of my head: Fair Tax. org. Also called the consumption tax, it will help serve to eliminate liberalism's well-worn tool of class envy. A concept in which liberalism owns the franchise. From your list, I would say that six and nine make no sense. On one hand you are saying that Obama is going to tax corporations MORE, but yet,incentivize businesses? Do these two notions seem a little at odds? They do to me. Check out Fair Tax. org. You might even find it progressive, to your liking. I won't be giving my fifty reasons to vote for Obama or Mccain. I'll be voting Libertarian. M lester I'll list some reasons why I'm voting for Obama: 1. He's smart - a critical thinker as opposed to someone who shoots from the hip. 2. He has a plan for getting us out of Iraq. 3. His health care plan ensures that all children are covered, enables everyone to get health care, and enables me to keep the good coverage I already have. 4. He's eloquent. 5. After a loooooooooooooong string of white guys, he represents the diversity of America. 6. He intends to return some fairness to the tax code and get corporations and the rich paying their fair shares (again) while providing tax cuts to the middle class, currently struggling to make ends meet. 7. He will overnight restore the world's respect for America as a fair and intelligent nation. 8. He's inspiring. 9. He will incentivize businesses to keep and re-establish jobs in the USA. 10. He has a plan to explore and provide funding for alternative energy. That's 20% of the 50 reasons, just off the top of my head. But why make US do YOUR work for you? Go to: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ And you can find another 40. Easily. Bob NP: Mike Doughty, "Navigating By The Stars At Night" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:11:11 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Here's what I think. A tax that isn't progressive isn't fair. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of marie Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 11:56 PM To: Bob Muller Cc: Laura Stanley; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Here is something that is NOT off the top of my head: Fair Tax. org. Also called the consumption tax, it will help serve to eliminate liberalism's well-worn tool of class envy. A concept in which liberalism owns the franchise. From your list, I would say that six and nine make no sense. On one hand you are saying that Obama is going to tax corporations MORE, but yet,incentivize businesses? Do these two notions seem a little at odds? They do to me. Check out Fair Tax. org. You might even find it progressive, to your liking. I won't be giving my fifty reasons to vote for Obama or Mccain. I'll be voting Libertarian. M lester I'll list some reasons why I'm voting for Obama: 1. He's smart - a critical thinker as opposed to someone who shoots from the hip. 2. He has a plan for getting us out of Iraq. 3. His health care plan ensures that all children are covered, enables everyone to get health care, and enables me to keep the good coverage I already have. 4. He's eloquent. 5. After a loooooooooooooong string of white guys, he represents the diversity of America. 6. He intends to return some fairness to the tax code and get corporations and the rich paying their fair shares (again) while providing tax cuts to the middle class, currently struggling to make ends meet. 7. He will overnight restore the world's respect for America as a fair and intelligent nation. 8. He's inspiring. 9. He will incentivize businesses to keep and re-establish jobs in the USA. 10. He has a plan to explore and provide funding for alternative energy. That's 20% of the 50 reasons, just off the top of my head. But why make US do YOUR work for you? Go to: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ And you can find another 40. Easily. Bob NP: Mike Doughty, "Navigating By The Stars At Night" ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #267 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------