From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #266 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, October 27 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 266 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Greatest live act [Merk54@aol.com] Re: Greatest live act [Merk54@aol.com] american election NJC ["ron" ] Re: Greatest live act ["Jerry Notaro" ] Randy Newman (njc) ["Paul Castle" ] Re: Randy Newman (njc) ["Jerry Notaro" ] Movin out, njc (Aerosmith) [Laura Stanley ] OzFest and SoCalFest [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Boston area mini get together-canceled (NJC) [Ashara Stansfield ] Re: Top 50 Albums of All Time ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: Top 50 Albums of All Time ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: Greatest live act [Joseph Palis ] Re: BRYAN THOMAS: 1369 Lights at CD Baby vljc ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:45:27 EDT From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Greatest live act I can't limit this one as I've seen so many great shows, but the ones that stick out in my mind are as follows. Aside from the Talking Heads, these are in no particular order. Talking Heads - Stop Making Sense Tour. As great as the movie is, the concert was that much better. Elton John - Too many to mention, all of them great. First concert I ever went to. Joni Mitchell at Red Rocks Bruce Springsteen - Darkness Tour Pink Floyd - Milwaukee Count Stadium - Legendary show Bob Dylan - Too many to mention Tom Waits - Mesmerizing Beck - tour with the Marionettes Rickie Lee Jones - Pulled me out of the audience to dance with me at Poplar Creek Gentle Giant Paul McCartney - 2nd row for Wings Over America tour Joan Armatrading Supertramp Neil Young Elvis Costello The Clash Lenny Kravitz before he made it big Sorry for the long list, but it was fun reminiscing. Jack **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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As great as the movie is, the > concert was that much better. > Elton John - Too many to mention, all of them great. First concert I > ever > went to. > Joni Mitchell at Red Rocks > Bruce Springsteen - Darkness Tour > Pink Floyd - Milwaukee Count Stadium - Legendary show > Bob Dylan - Too many to mention > Tom Waits - Mesmerizing > Beck - tour with the Marionettes > Rickie Lee Jones - Pulled me out of the audience to dance with me at > Poplar > Creek > Gentle Giant > Paul McCartney - 2nd row for Wings Over America tour > Joan Armatrading > Supertramp > Neil Young > Elvis Costello > The Clash > Lenny Kravitz before he made it big > > Sorry for the long list, but it was fun reminiscing. > > Jack > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 > easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211625659x1200715650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=82&bcd=emailf > ooter) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:53:15 +0000 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Randy Newman (njc) Just got my tickets for Randy Newman's London show at The Royal Festival Hall next month - can't wait - really love his latest album, 'Harps and Angels' - just fab!! He was on the BBC's 'Desert Island Discs' last week - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/desertislanddiscs.shtml (no Joni, mainly classical pieces with a Ray Charles and George Jones song (which, he admitted, was unbearably sappy but had ripped him apart when he was going through a break up some time ago). Spoke about winning a Grammy at the 16th attempt and being surprised at how emotional he was collecting it - and the controversy caused by his song 'Short People' - having his shows picketed by little people - he reckoned the song would feature in the second sentence of his obituary. He also said that people in Europe used to find his song 'Political Science' funny - but they're not laughing anymore! :) Pleased to hear he thinks 'Harps and Angels' is some of his best work - have to agree, particularly 'Losing You' http://www.skreemr.com/link.jsp?id=625B4751505E6014 'A Few Words in Defense of Our Country' - (lol!) http://www.skreemr.com/link.jsp?id=6A5E41545C5B67 and (maybe one of my Desert Island Discs) 'Feels Like Home'. Love Bonnie Raitt's cover but the original is just sublime, imo http://www.skreemr.com/link.jsp?id=6A5E41565C5B67 very best to all PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:49:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Randy Newman (njc) Harps and Angels is a great cd. It will definitely be on my top 10 list this year. CBS Sunday Morning is doing a segment on the fabulous Adele. I've had her Adele 19 for a while and heartily recommend it. She is about to conquer this side of The Pond. Jerry Paul Castle wrote: > Just got my tickets for Randy Newman's London show at > The Royal Festival Hall next month - can't wait - really > love his latest album, 'Harps and Angels' - just fab!! > > He was on the BBC's 'Desert Island Discs' last week - see > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/desertislanddiscs.shtml > (no Joni, mainly classical pieces with a Ray Charles and > George Jones song (which, he admitted, was unbearably > sappy but had ripped him apart when he was going through > a break up some time ago). > > Spoke about winning a Grammy at the 16th attempt and > being surprised at how emotional he was collecting it - > and the controversy caused by his song 'Short People' - > having his shows picketed by little people - he reckoned > the song would feature in the second sentence of his > obituary. > > He also said that people in Europe used to find his song > 'Political Science' funny - but they're not laughing anymore! :) > > Pleased to hear he thinks 'Harps and Angels' is some of > his best work - have to agree, particularly 'Losing You' > http://www.skreemr.com/link.jsp?id=625B4751505E6014 > 'A Few Words in Defense of Our Country' - (lol!) > http://www.skreemr.com/link.jsp?id=6A5E41545C5B67 > and (maybe one of my Desert Island Discs) 'Feels Like Home'. > Love Bonnie Raitt's cover but the original is just sublime, imo > http://www.skreemr.com/link.jsp?id=6A5E41565C5B67 > > very best to all > PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Movin out, njc (Aerosmith) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nCV3i6DpARw ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:33:57 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: OzFest and SoCalFest I am getting quotes right now for a SoCal fest in the little mountain town Arts community of Idyllwild, CA, which is a couple of hours east of LA and sits in a pineforest above the Palm Springs area. The sights, hikes and eateries are wonderful and the town is chock full of musical and artistic talent. They hold an annual Jazz festival at the Arts campus where our 8-piece Joni band brought the house down in August 07. I have two venues in mind so hopefully one will work out well. Regarding Mark's request, THIS fest, if I can pull it all together, would likely be July or August, definitely not October and would probably be a 3-day event. Robin and I would like to make it to Sydney too, economy permitting. cheers all, Dave On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:00 AM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:58:59 +1100 > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > Subject: OzFest and SoCalFest > > Hello fellow Joni fans. > > I recently hinted at a JoniFest in Australia and have had some very > positive feedback about the idea. I never thought it would be viable > but it seems that there are plenty of people willing to make the trip > so, I went ahead and did some research and have discovered the > perfect venue for it and have got some preliminary quotes that will > make it financially viable too. > > I was aware that Dave Blackburn had raised the idea of a JoniFest in > the San Diego area but didn't realise that his plans might clash with > mine. The fear now is that people might want to attend both but would > have to choose between them because people won't be able to afford > two JoniFests in the same year. So, before I go ahead with any more > research and planning, I need to know if this will prevent people > from coming to OzFest. If having the two on in the same year will > cause anyone a problem, would you please let me know. > > I need to know if, going to SoCal JoniFest will prevent you from > attending OzFest or vice versa, please send me a message off list or > here so, I can get an idea of its viability. If this is the case, I > may have to push it back to 2010. > > My idea was for October, 2009. That is Spring in Australia so, I > thought that might be an ideal time, weather wise. It has been > suggested to me that many people would like to escape the Northern > Hemisphere Winter but, Summer in Australia (most parts) can be > uncomfortably hot. At least, I think so. Sometimes temperatures can > get up 30-35 degrees C and I'm not sure you'd like to sweat it out. > That's why I figured Spring might be better. Everything is open to > discussion so, please feel free to give any feedback. > > Either way, you are all going to LOVE the venue I found and the > package they offer. I will reveal the venue once I get some feedback > from you all. I will also look into flight packages from each of your > countries but that's probably better done from your end. > > Spring has been a bit mixed this year. We've had quite a bit of rain > and temperatures have varied wildly from a heatwave two weeks ago to > snow falling in the mountains last week. > > I have had some great feedback from Lucy Hone on her methods and will > be following much of her advice because it seems that Holycombe was a > great success. I believe I can make OzFest the most memorable > JoniFest ever. The more of you who come, the better this will be (it > also makes the package cheaper because there is a set price to book > out the entire venue). Trust me, you'll love it. > > Your feedback will give me a starting point and shape the whole > experience. > > The most important question is; Will having two JoniFests in the same > year (same month) prevent you from going to either one? > > Thanks for your co-operation. > > Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:08:53 -0400 From: Ashara Stansfield Subject: Re: Boston area mini get together-canceled (NJC) Sorry everyone. I got a call from Les that he needs to postpone his visit. Brunch is canceled, but we'll get together soon hopefully! Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:38:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Top 50 Albums of All Time In the new Sound&Vision list, Blue made #34. I like what Rob O'Connor had to say: An album best heard on cd. Not only do you lose thew surface noise of vinyl - so much more crucial when dealing with those tracks that are piano based - but you can process the album in one uninterrupted sitting, allowing the ten songs over 36 minutes to flow like a river that Joni wishes to skate away on. In 1971, her voice hadn't yet lost the top end of its range from smoking, and she sounded excited even with life's shortcomings. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:46:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Top 50 Albums of All Time P.S. Joni "sort of" made their Top 10 Live Albums list with The Last Waltz at number 7. Jerry Notaro wrote: > In the new Sound&Vision list, Blue made #34. I like what Rob O'Connor had > to say: > > An album best heard on cd. Not only do you lose thew surface noise of > vinyl - so much more crucial when dealing with those tracks that are piano > based - but you can process the album in one uninterrupted sitting, > allowing the ten songs over 36 minutes to flow like a river that Joni > wishes to skate away on. In 1971, her voice hadn't yet lost the top end of > its range from smoking, and she sounded excited even with life's > shortcomings. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Top 50 Albums of All Time P.P.S. #1 of the Top 10 Cornerstone Jazz Albums - Kind of Blue. #4 - Charles Mingus: The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. Jerry Notaro wrote: > In the new Sound&Vision list, Blue made #34. I like what Rob O'Connor had > to say: > > An album best heard on cd. Not only do you lose thew surface noise of > vinyl - so much more crucial when dealing with those tracks that are piano > based - but you can process the album in one uninterrupted sitting, > allowing the ten songs over 36 minutes to flow like a river that Joni > wishes to skate away on. In 1971, her voice hadn't yet lost the top end of > its range from smoking, and she sounded excited even with life's > shortcomings. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:05:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Re: Greatest live act I wish I was present in some great performances even before I was born but time-travel is not an option yet for me. So here's my own contribution: B Rickie Lee Jones - Carrboro, 2006 - RLJ was in great voice and she was not touring to support an album so her materials saw her dip lberally from her past albums. Highlight was her intensely moving a capella version of Something Cool. Here she approximated her what-I-consider-to-be-her-best-recorded-performance of The Moon is Made of Gold from the Rob Wasserman Duets album. B Caetano Veloso - Chapel Hill, 2007 - I have admired this musician for years and seeing his youthful 64-year old self recreate the whole gamut of musical vision he created all these years is worth thelong wait. From psychedelia to his Carnavais days to re-imagined bossa, and to singer-songwriterly genius, this guy is beyond good. B Marcel Marceau - Manila, mid-1990s - No sound on stage was heard when this mime genius moved but in his (by then) minimalism, he created so many worlds that are so full of glorious sounds. Already in his mid-70s when I saw him, the one performance that night that had everyone in tears was his 'Birth, Childhood, Maturity, Death' where in less than 2 minutes, he transitioned from a newborn child to a dying man with Bach's Air as background. Unforgettable. B Hem/Over The Rhine - Chapel Hill, 2007 - A joint concert from two of my favorite acts. Both backing bands are top-notch and they showed an empathetic even psychic level of communication (and communion) with the their singers. Karring Bergquist of OTR was sexy, in peak voice and had a swagger that is hard to resist. Sally Ellyson of Hem on the other hand was 8 months pregnant, nurturing, soothing and when she sang Rainy Night in Georgia, everyone stopped to listen. Even the bartender and the folks at the far end of the bar were listening without moving but so incredibly moved by the simplicity and poignancy of the performance. B Patty Griffin/Emmylou Harris/Shawn Colvin and Buddy Miller - Chapel Hill, 2007 - - Three really great female voices and a dexterous guitarist who can sing just as great as them. It is like a family gathering, that is more back porch than supper club. Emmylou commanders the stage like a matriarch with her three grown up children - Buddy as her wildly talented guitarist son, Shawn as the shy, sensitive daughter who is happy to fade into the background but whose heartbreakingly moving performances gained the biggest applause, and Patty as the precocious daughter who in the ideal world should be the people who win Grammys for the superb songwriting and effortless singing but whose presence makes you imagine how much greatness is still in store for her. B Other unforgettable live acts through the years: B (1) Andrew Bird - Chapel Hill, 2008 - eccentric, ambitious, almost Mozartian in talent B (2) Feist - Carrboro, 2006 - a livewire onstage, extremely funny and very moving in ballads B (3) Marian McPartland - Chapel Hill, 2006 - she limped and very slowly made her way to the piano but once herB fingers tinkled the ivories, you see youth, vitality and the fluidity of Pablo Casals in his old age B (4) Fleet Foxes - Chapel Hill, 2008 - orchestral, infinitely inventive, emotional B (5) Aimee Mann - Raleigh, 2005 - At her most deliciously subdued but she showed a refreshing and wicked sense of humor I have not heard or read before B (6) Youssou N'Dour - Chapel Hill, 2006 - He was sick then but when he opens his mouth to sing, you hear a griot so feral you are immediately transported to Egypt and Senegal B (7) Sufjan Stevens - Chapel Hill, 2006 - He is like an accessible version of Andrew Bird but his harmonies are unlike what I have heard from similar artists like Aqualung. B (8) Antibalas - Carrboro, 2008 - Funky, gloriously upbeat, energetic, soul-nourishing B (9) Nnenna Freelon - Chapel Hill, 2005; Manila 1990 - scat cat, powerful balladry B (10) Yo La Tengo - Carrboro, 2007 - In peak form, accessibly quirky B I am sure I am leaving a few here too but those were the live acts that come to mind. B Mixed bag - A little disappointing (mostly because the artists did not notably rise to the level I expect them too). (1) Ralph Stanley (2) Midori (3) Kathleen Battle (4) Liam Finn (5) Ingrid Michaelson (6) James Taylor (7) Bruce Cockburn (8)B Tribute to Joni Mitchell at Carnegie, 2006 - a true mixed bag although Bettye Lavette rules the world! B B Joseph aka Joe (not a plumber) Chapel Hill B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:42:04 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: BRYAN THOMAS: 1369 Lights at CD Baby vljc What I remember from the first full moon fest is bryan's stellar version of 'little green' kate >Some of you may be familiar with Bryan Thomas who has, I think, been on the jmdl from time to time and who (I think) attended a New England Jonifest (one I wasn't at, so what would I know? Someone who was there, speak up! I'm sure he did a couple of Joni tunes.)< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:15:41 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) I can think of a few reasons not to. Again, nothing political in Jackie's opinion, it all boils down to who is the biggest liar. Jackie Mason '08 Vlog 55 Obama and the First Debate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhI_bQbF1Gw Jackie Mason '08 Vlog 24 Obama's Fraud http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ5c6hxqXq4 Jackie Mason '08 Vlog 55 Acorn, Ayers and the Last Debate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZWuvYhNklY&feature=channel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:59:02 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: 50 Reasons to Vote Obama (NJC) Hi Gregg! I'm so glad Rosie encouraged you to post your song on youtube! It's excellent, and you sound better than ever. I can still remember listening to you sing and play at one of the Jonifest, and you're better than ever. I hope you're doing well, and thanks for posting. Jimmy > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euwF8WU6Emw ************** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics b check it out! 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