From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #261 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 22 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 261 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Best Live Acts [Jeannie ] Subject: Phony story (njc) ["Kate Bennett" ] UK JoniFest 2008 CD covers [Mark-Leon Thorne ] NJC Phony Story [Chuck Eisenhardt ] Re: NJC, Neil Young on Colin Powell on Barack OBAMA! [marie ] Re: Best Live Concert Ever [Em ] Re: NJC - Phoebe Snow ["Donna Binkley" ] Best Live act (NJC) [c Karma ] Re: Best Live act (NJC) [Monika Bogdanowicz ] RE: Getting IN to THOSL ["John McGloin" ] Re: NJC - Phoebe Snow [Susan Guzzi ] Re: OZ fest [Don ] Re: NJC - Phoebe Snow [Catherine McKay ] RE: Best Live Acts ["John McGloin" ] Re: Boston area mini get together- change of plans! (NJC) [Ashara Stansfi] Kind of Blue, sjc [Rian Afriadi ] best live concert ever [Rob Wh ] Updated CD covers [Mark-Leon Thorne ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:19:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Best Live Acts I've been to many wonderful, memorable concerts to mention and even to a few which just bored the hell outta me and made me feel anxious similar to walking the static electricity streets of Las Vegas--totally out of place. But the best kick-ass concerts ribbons for me go to Warren Zevon. Around April of 2000, I saw him the Theatre Of The Living Arts in Philadelphia. A couple of nights later at a New Jersey beer joint called Club Bene. A couple of nights later in Austin at La Zona Rosa and another night later at the beautiful downtown Jones Park in Houston. I wanted to attend two more, in Ft. Worth and then Seattle, but was already beaten to a beautiful pulp by Warren getting down solo, that I couldn't take it anymore--he truly rubbed me raw with his music. Warren was excellent! Truly, Jeannie - --- On Mon, 10/20/08, PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > From: PassScribe@aol.com > Subject: Re: Best Live Acts > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 9:20 PM > I remember saying, after I saw Billy Joel/Elton John at > Hartford, CT (their > back-to-back or was it face- to-face tour?) that THAT was > the concert of the > century! I also thought Joe Jackson at Town Hall in > Manhattan (2005) was > phenominal. And Todd Rundgren did a show (about 10-15 years > ago) in the > "half-round" at Westbury Music Fair for a > half-capacity crowd that was like being in his > living room PLUS he did all his best stuff, and I remember > my friend Bob & I > saying that THAT was the best show he ever played. > > Kenny B > > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. > Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:31:21 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Subject: Phony story (njc) Kakki, I think you are referring to the person who forwarded the story to some friends- you are right that she is not the author but to date, the story itself has not been debunked by snopes. Here's the link - http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/vacation.asp Kate Kakki >That awful story has been thoroughly debunked by Snopes and several other outlets. The purported author of the piece has adamanatly claimed that she never ever visited the resort, nor has ever met McCain. You can research it to find more details. It is all over the internet. It is completely made up and untrue. When hearing outrageous stories such as these, no matter how much one may want to believe the worst of people, it always helps to cross-check it.< ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:50:23 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: UK JoniFest 2008 CD covers Hi folks. I still can't get the hang of copying the download links into my posts properly. Maybe it's a Mac thing but they come out all wonky. If anyone would like the covers, just write to me off list. The file is only 6.8MB so, I can easily just send it by e-mail. The file is a .zip file. A folder containing four sub folder with the front and back covers and disc images for each CD. Mark in Sydney NP Sally - Sam Sparro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:55:09 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: NJC Phony Story ...oddly, when I did check this story out on Snopes I found that they categorize the status of this story as 'undetermined', an not 'phony' Snopes reports that an attributed author (Mary May Gamel) has completely disclaimed any authorship; however she reports she had sent the story to a group friends for discussion, and as it it circulated further, her name, appended to the story, became associated with the authorship. The Snopes commentary goes on to identify another reported author, and that they have not verified that information one way or the other. So yes, I also recommend checking the Snopes commentary. http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/vacation.asp Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: marie Subject: Re: NJC, Neil Young on Colin Powell on Barack OBAMA! Say what you will about McCain, but I knew this letter was a phony when it purported that he pushed "the thing " around in a shopping cart in Arizona. Other than McCain on the campaign trail, I don't think you would find him in any grocery store, shopping, no less, with a shopping cart?! McCain has enough issues without resorting to this kind of made up garbage. Please check the validity of your links before posting them here. As a reminder, we are here because of JM truths that are replete in her music, as well in her life. ( Her great quest for truth, if you will.) We can disagree with someone without tearing them apart with falsehoods. Thanks for listening, M lester http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/index.html Nice guy, eh? McShame. With the audacity of hope, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Best Live Concert Ever I think, much as I can remember from all the concerts I used to attend that these are the big 5 ... 1.) Joni in 1972 with Jackson Brown opening - my first time seeing her ... Blue tour - Opened with "This Flight Tonight" 2.) Annie Lennox about 5 years ago - what an entertainer and how she changed the mood with every scene or song change 3.) CSN&Y back in 1974? The show was about 3 hours long and their opening act was Jessie Colin Young. 4.) Indigo Girls - any show - I am not so enamored with them or their music alone - but the whole experience, audience and artists, is so full for me 5.) Phoebe Snow - I can't date the concert - but I have seen Phoebe more than anyone else(10x) - only because Joni doesn't tour as much as Phoebe used to ... But the best of Phoebe was the first time she did "At Last" live - I remember just freezing as I was up getting a drink at the Park West/Chicago and running back tomy seat in awe after the first note! Honorable mention Ricki Lee Jones the first tour in 1979 & my conversation with her afterwards ... Elton John late 70's as well - you have to see him once ... The Pretenders/Chrissie! Back in 2000 right up against the stage but able to dodge all the cups of beer she kicked out of her way! And you know there may be more ... Peace, Susan - --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Kate Bennett wrote: From: Kate Bennett Subject: Best Live Concert Ever To: joni@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:01 AM Woodstock 1969 Bob Marley 1979 Shawn Colvin 198? (before she was famous) Dire Straits 198? (as their star was rising) Kate ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:03:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Best Live Concert Ever ooooooo! ooooooo! ooooooo! thats reminds me! Elton John on the "Don't Shoot Me" tour. (mid 70's) DANG that was rockin'! That was his first tour with glitter involved, I think. He sure had a great band. Also I'm recalling a flabbergasting Joan Armatrading show in Germany in the late 70's. Everybody left with slobber all down their shirts and bottom lip dragging the floor. (in a good way) :) Em - --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Susan Guzzi wrote: From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: Best Live Concert Ever To: "Joni Discussion" Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:49 AM I think, much as I can remember from all the concerts I used to attend that these are the big 5 ... 1.) Joni in 1972 with Jackson Brown opening - my first time seeing her ... Blue tour - Opened with "This Flight Tonight" 2.) Annie Lennox about 5 years ago - what an entertainer and how she changed the mood with every scene or song change 3.) CSN&Y back in 1974? The show was about 3 hours long and their opening act was Jessie Colin Young. 4.) Indigo Girls - any show - I am not so enamored with them or their music alone - but the whole experience, audience and artists, is so full for me 5.) Phoebe Snow - I can't date the concert - but I have seen Phoebe more than anyone else(10x) - only because Joni doesn't tour as much as Phoebe used to ... But the best of Phoebe was the first time she did "At Last" live - - I remember just freezing as I was up getting a drink at the Park West/Chicago and running back tomy seat in awe after the first note! Honorable mention Ricki Lee Jones the first tour in 1979 & my conversation with her afterwards ... Elton John late 70's as well - you have to see him once ... The Pretenders/Chrissie! Back in 2000 right up against the stage but able to dodge all the cups of beer she kicked out of her way! And you know there may be more ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:00:34 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: NJC - Phoebe Snow Susan your list is one of my faves. Especially Phoebe Snow. It was in the 1980's I was home from college for the summer and "punk rock" music was just sort of beginning, so I had the likes of The Specials, The Police, The B52s lined up against my Joni and Phoebe records in my room. My younger brother comes in and (insert voice of contempt here) "you and your PUNK ROCK MUSIC, who's Fobe Snow?" Ya gotta love the little unmusical bugger, ha ha. Donna >>> Susan Guzzi 10/21/2008 9:49 AM >>> I think, much as I can remember from all the concerts I used to attend that these are the big 5 ... 1.) Joni in 1972 with Jackson Brown opening - my first time seeing her ... Blue tour - Opened with "This Flight Tonight" 2.) Annie Lennox about 5 years ago - what an entertainer and how she changed the mood with every scene or song change 3.) CSN&Y back in 1974? The show was about 3 hours long and their opening act was Jessie Colin Young. 4.) Indigo Girls - any show - I am not so enamored with them or their music alone - but the whole experience, audience and artists, is so full for me 5.) Phoebe Snow - I can't date the concert - but I have seen Phoebe more than anyone else(10x) - only because Joni doesn't tour as much as Phoebe used to ... But the best of Phoebe was the first time she did "At Last" live - I remember just freezing as I was up getting a drink at the Park West/Chicago and running back tomy seat in awe after the first note! Honorable mention Ricki Lee Jones the first tour in 1979 & my conversation with her afterwards ... Elton John late 70's as well - you have to see him once ... The Pretenders/Chrissie! Back in 2000 right up against the stage but able to dodge all the cups of beer she kicked out of her way! And you know there may be more ... Peace, Susan - --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Kate Bennett wrote: From: Kate Bennett Subject: Best Live Concert Ever To: joni@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:01 AM Woodstock 1969 Bob Marley 1979 Shawn Colvin 198? (before she was famous) Dire Straits 198? (as their star was rising) Kate ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:52:07 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: Best Live act (NJC) Hmmm. I think that Prince is tops on my list, with Queen a very close second, the Boss rounding out the trifecta. Easy no contest on the WORST. Madonna, hands down. Too bad for her I haven't seen Britney. CC _________________________________________________________________ You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:06:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Best Live act (NJC) I think the worst live act would be any band (or artist) who play something note for note, as it is on the album. At that point, you might as well have just stayed home and listened to the cd. - -Monika - --- On Tue, 10/21/08, c Karma wrote: Hmmm. I think that Prince is tops on my list, with Queen a very close second, the Boss rounding out the trifecta. Easy no contest on the WORST. Madonna, hands down. Too bad for her I haven't seen Britney. CC _________________________________________________________________ You live life beyond your PC. So now Windows goes beyond your PC. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298556/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:02:12 +0100 From: "John McGloin" Subject: RE: Getting IN to THOSL I remember having the occasional glass of red wine listening to HSOL But seriously, I think the best pair of back to back recordings in popular music ever are HOSL and Hejira. HOSL was the recording that really turned me on to Joni. It was also Melody Maker's album of the year (MM was in it's time the leading serious musical publication in the UK). Cheers John - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Happy The Man Sent: 20 October 2008 21:34 To: Jerry Notaro Cc: Mark-Leon Thorne; joni@smoe.org; rustytrazom@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Getting IN to THOSL I don't know smoked a lot of pot, dropped a lot of acid and a few handfuls of ludes to Hejira. One particular trip caught me getting off of work at 6:30 on a thursday evening and driving up Hwy 395 on my way to a long weekend backpacking trip in the eastern sierra's near Bishop. I remember pulling off to the side of the road near Independence, not seeing a car go by for 10 minutes smoking a little Thai weed while listening to Amelia thinking there are sure a lot of stars in the sky and proceeded to start counting. Don't remember a story like that with HOSL. Peace, Craig NP: The Sand Band - The Secret Chord Jerry Notaro wrote: > Yeah, no matter whether you liked it or not, I think we can all agree HOSL > was definitely Joni's stoner album. > > NP: Randy Newman - Harp and Angels > > Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> Thanks for the reminiscing, Russ. You're forgiven for the >> transgression. I was there with you as I read that. Much of my Joni >> appreciation of Joni comes from stoned encounters. How do you think >> David Crosby became such a fan. On pot, I climbed right into Joni's >> lyrics. >> >> Mark in Sydney >> >> NP Face Down - Prince >> >> On 19/10/2008, at 6:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: >> >> >>> Gang, >>> >>> I love this one, too....Took me a while to get into it...1978..in >>> the Rocky >>> Mtns...a beautiful day..a cabin to myself..one hit of acid >>> (sorry..it was 30 >>> years ago) a couple of lines of something white and "Sweet Bird" >>> over and >>> over....WOW! Pardon my past transgressions. >>> >>> Russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:26:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: NJC - Phoebe Snow Donna that is hysterical! Phoebe is so underrated and unappreciated. She deserves much more commercial success & acknowledgment. She is just a great singer period - and I enjoy when she plays with her voice and range live - - it's such a thrill! Glad you enjoyed the list. However, I know I will think of several more as I go through the day ... I went to so many at a certain point in my life, sometimes I say to myself - "Did I see them or them or them?" Maybe I should just start bragging that I saw the Beatles too - who would know? Someday when I am old and more forgetful - I just may make that claim! LOL! Oooh! Emerson Lake & Palmer was good too - I know someone mentioned that one as well. Good days to all - and a special birthday is fast approaching! Peace, Susan - --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Donna Binkley wrote: From: Donna Binkley Subject: Re: NJC - Phoebe Snow To: "Joni Discussion" , "Susan Guzzi" Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 11:00 AM Susan your list is one of my faves. Especially Phoebe Snow. It was in the 1980's I was home from college for the summer and "punk rock" music was just sort of beginning, so I had the likes of The Specials, The Police, The B52s lined up against my Joni and Phoebe records in my room. My younger brother comes in and (insert voice of contempt here) "you and your PUNK ROCK MUSIC, who's Fobe Snow?" Ya gotta love the little unmusical bugger, ha ha. Donna >>> Susan Guzzi 10/21/2008 9:49 AM >>> I think, much as I can remember from all the concerts I used to attend that these are the big 5 ... 1.) Joni in 1972 with Jackson Brown opening - my first time seeing her ... Blue tour - Opened with "This Flight Tonight" 2.) Annie Lennox about 5 years ago - what an entertainer and how she changed the mood with every scene or song change 3.) CSN&Y back in 1974? The show was about 3 hours long and their opening act was Jessie Colin Young. 4.) Indigo Girls - any show - I am not so enamored with them or their music alone - but the whole experience, audience and artists, is so full for me 5.) Phoebe Snow - I can't date the concert - but I have seen Phoebe more than anyone else(10x) - only because Joni doesn't tour as much as Phoebe used to ... But the best of Phoebe was the first time she did "At Last" live - - I remember just freezing as I was up getting a drink at the Park West/Chicago and running back tomy seat in awe after the first note! Honorable mention Ricki Lee Jones the first tour in 1979 & my conversation with her afterwards ... Elton John late 70's as well - you have to see him once ... The Pretenders/Chrissie! Back in 2000 right up against the stage but able to dodge all the cups of beer she kicked out of her way! And you know there may be more ... Peace, Susan - --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Kate Bennett wrote: From: Kate Bennett Subject: Best Live Concert Ever To: joni@smoe.org Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 12:01 AM Woodstock 1969 Bob Marley 1979 Shawn Colvin 198? (before she was famous) Dire Straits 198? (as their star was rising) Kate ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:11:03 +1100 From: Don Subject: Re: OZ fest Mark Bring it on. We may be few but we's dedicated just like the others.. some of us play pretty as well Don Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC - Phoebe Snow Once upon a time, there was a Phoebe who worked in my office. The receptionist at the time was French-speaking and I remember one day she said there was a message for "Fweb." Ms Guzzi, I still remember your story about how you got to meet Phoebe Snow and it's one of my favourites. - --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Susan Guzzi wrote: > Donna that is hysterical! Phoebe is so underrated and > unappreciated. > She deserves much more commercial success & > acknowledgment. > --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Donna Binkley > Susan your list is one of my faves. Especially Phoebe > Snow. It was in the > 1980's I was home from college for the summer and > "punk rock" > music was just > sort of beginning, so I had the likes of The Specials, The > Police, The B52s > lined up against my Joni and Phoebe records in my room. My > younger brother > comes in and (insert voice of contempt here) "you and > your PUNK ROCK > MUSIC, > who's Fobe Snow?" Ya gotta love the little > unmusical bugger, ha ha. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:56:45 +0100 From: "John McGloin" Subject: RE: Best Live Acts Having seen him playing last night and very impressed with what he played and sang, it's got to be Stephen Stills Manassas in London 1971. The Who at the Oval in 1970 was something special and I was there the night John McLaughlin was recorded for his Royal Festival Hall release in 1990. Oh - - and the original Pat Metheny Group in 1978 under a huge marquee. Cheers John - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PassScribe@aol.com Sent: 21 October 2008 03:21 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Best Live Acts I remember saying, after I saw Billy Joel/Elton John at Hartford, CT (their back-to-back or was it face- to-face tour?) that THAT was the concert of the century! I also thought Joe Jackson at Town Hall in Manhattan (2005) was phenominal. And Todd Rundgren did a show (about 10-15 years ago) in the "half-round" at Westbury Music Fair for a half-capacity crowd that was like being in his living room PLUS he did all his best stuff, and I remember my friend Bob & I saying that THAT was the best show he ever played. Kenny B ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:48:59 -0400 From: Ashara Stansfield Subject: Re: Boston area mini get together- change of plans! (NJC) Looks like Halloween night is not good for everyone. How about Sunday brunch at my house on Sunday, November 2nd? Say 10:30AM? I have a gig at the house at 4PM. Please e-mail if you can make it. Hugs, Ashara ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:30:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Kind of Blue, sjc O my.... Nothing touches me like this, not after I discovered Joni 2 years ago... I'm listening to Miles Davis's Kind of Blue. A friend gave me. Oh my... What a great album Kind of Blue is. What do you think about the album? Have Joni stated something about Miles Davis, particularly this album? Rian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:56:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob Wh Subject: best live concert ever For me, in the broad range of non-classical categories, my answer is the same now as it was almost thirty years ago: Joni Mitchell with Pat Metheny, Michael Brecker, Jaco Pastorious, Lyle Mays, Don Alias (and of course the Persuasions); very early September, 1979, in Vancouver, B.C. at the Pacific Coliseum. I had just moved to the city and was about to start my undergrad as a music major. What an introduction!! Had no idea that this was part of the "Shadows and Light" phenomenon - quite understandably I thought of this as the "Mingus" tour. No matter how my feelings for Joni Mitchell may have evolved over the years - and may continue to evolve - that concert is and always will be a high point of my life. Second place might be shared amongst: Joan Baez (December 1977 in London at the Hammersmith Odeon; just Joan, her guitar, and us); Joan Armatrading (July 1980, again in Vancouver, this time at the Queen Elizabeth, a theater that might still be a perfect venue for JM); Jimmy Webb (October 1999, somewhere in Boston, with fellow JMDLers Patrick, Ashara, Chuck and Barbara); Intimate Nights (June 2006 in New York City at Joe's Pub; the great night when Patrick Leader, my sister and I got to experience Blossom Dearie live). Also my first live Ella Fitzgerald experience was awesome (the second was a bit scat-by-numbers, but it was the late show ...) Cheers to all! Robert(o) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:08:51 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Updated CD covers Hi Folks. It has come to my attention that Chris Marshall did the majority of recordings at Holycombe. I felt the need to adjust the CD covers I designed to reflect that. I also updated the layout slightly. Thank you so much Chris for recording these and making it possible for us to share in that event. I still think you're damned good singer and musician too. I also love Dave's mixing. Instead of farting around with yousendit, just send me a request offlist and I will e-mail the covers to you. The file is only 7.2MB so, quite easy to send that way. If anyone has some severe e-mail restrictions and would prefer to download it from the web, send me a message and I will upload it for you. Mark in Sydney (in the midst of a wild storm) ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #261 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------