From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #231 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, September 30 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 231 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: mellowing. . + a scorpio ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Songs not on albums ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs [Mark-Leon Thorne <] Re: Songs not on albums [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: njc, Paul Newman on the back of a cartoon coaster, and more..... ["T ] Re: mellowing. . + a scorpio ["T Peckham" ] Songs not on albums [JEFF HANKINS ] Re: Songs not on albums [Garret ] Re: Favorite Characters on Joni songs [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Favorite Characters on Joni songs [Michael Flaherty ] UK Jonifest audio on the way soon [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Songs not on albums [Bob Muller ] Re: Songs not on albums [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC - The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning ...a message from Michael Moore ["T Peckham" ] FW: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? [Steve Harper ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:03:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: mellowing. . + a scorpio I read something a few years ago which stated that more presidents were born under scorpio than any other birthsign... kate, scorpio rising Ps I perceive Joni as extremely sensitive yet extremely strong... a hard combination for many to understand & maybe the reason she needs so much alone time to paint ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:10:44 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Songs not on albums >Of course, Urge for Going was scheduled for Blue:< It would have fit perfectly on Blue. Too bad she only wanted, or the record company only paid for 10 songs in those days. These days you can choose as many songs as you like. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:20:49 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs Mark in Florida wrote: Wow! So, eloquently put, Mark. I guess most of us here feel that way about Joni and many other strong women but stumble when trying to express that admiration and what it is exactly that they admire. I know I do. Otherwise, I would probably write more on this list. Thank you for saying what I feel. Mark in Sydney NP An Easier Affair - George Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:46:41 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Songs not on albums For me, hands down, Urge For Going should have made it onto Blue. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:17:31 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: njc, Paul Newman on the back of a cartoon coaster, and more..... Thanks Patti, and others who posted. Pls. see below. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: > > (the Hartford Courant, "America's oldest continuously published newspaper" > and the main CT rag), and of course Paul Newman is on the front page and is > here, there, and everywhere. I haven't done any reading yet except for here. I know they're extremely private, but is there mention of how Joanne's health is? And will there be any public memorial service? > > . . . reacted with VERY loud dismay . . . As did I, when an acquaintance happened by and started talking about it, assuming I knew. I didn't even know that Newman was seriously ill. I was kind of shocked by my own reaction . . . I guess like so many I was saddened to realize that we really won't see him in any more films, that he and Redford will never team up again. (Even tho that was a remote possibility, it's that old thing about the finality of it.) > > Funny, there are hardly any mentions in all the articles about his Hole in > the Wall Gang camps. Wow, I'm really surprised (and disappointed) by that. I don't know if that was the first charitable group he founded, but I'm pretty certain it preceded Newman's Own, yes? > > He was a CT delegate for Eugene McCarthy at the 1968 DNC, and there was > some talk that he would run for Senate against (choking sound here) > Lie....Lieber....ach du LIEBERMAN in 2004. Too bad the Dems didn't try to run him for Prez against Reagan or Poppy Bu$h . . . he might even have captured the NASCAR vote! > > I had almost forgotten that he lost his 28-year old actor son Scott to a > drug and alchohol overdose in 1978. Losing a child could cause a person to > shut down, but Paul went on to create the Scott Newman Foundation, based at > the U Calif. School of Public Health, later renamed to the Scott Newman > Center...an educational organization aimed at preventing drug abuse. It is > allied with yet another Newman charity, the Rowdy Ridge Gang Camp, which > works with abused women. For some odd reason, that was one of the first things I thought of, about his son. But I didn't know about the Rowdy Ridge charity---just adds to my deep respect for him. Terra ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:56:37 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: mellowing. . + a scorpio I'd forgotten that stat, but I remember seeing it too. I think one of them was President Garfield (assassinated in office), whom my father always thought we might be related to (there *are* Garfields in the family tree), and who shares both my birthday *and* my left-handedness. (There are also a significant number of lefty--I wish!--Presidents, disproportionate to the population.) Of course, my dad also liked to think he was related to the pirate Blackbeard, because there are a lot of ancestors named Teach. Did anyone else notice during the debate--if I'm not mistaken, I think BOTH Obama and McCain are left-handed. (As are both Bill Clinton and Poppy Bu$h, proving . . . uh, nothing, I guess.) :-D Terra, who really should get some sleep. P.S. I think your assessment of Joni is spot-on. On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:03 AM, Kate Bennett wrote: > I read something a few years ago which stated that more presidents were > born > under scorpio than any other birthsign... kate, scorpio rising > > Ps I perceive Joni as extremely sensitive yet extremely strong... a hard > combination for many to understand & maybe the reason she needs so much > alone time to paint ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:27 +0000 (GMT) From: JEFF HANKINS Subject: Songs not on albums I'll muscle in on this subject (a day late, but hey, that's the price we 'digest'[ people pay) to say I'd leave STAS well alone - conceptually it hangs together perfectly as a unity, as much as, well, as Hejira, even! (And Mr MullerB stop bullyingB Penance Crane . Great little narrative seaside murder betrayal song) The album I'd REALLY want to re-jig would be Clouds. Sure, I love it but it has a feel of being assembled without due thought (sacrilege?): 'Songs to Aging Children'/'Roses Blue' - both great songs but too quirky. Drop 'em. (And why only the 10 songs. Could easily fit 12.) 'Gift of the Magi' would fit nicely in alongside 'The Gallery'. Yes, 'Just like me' would be a great contrast to the more delicate brooders. And the enigmatic 'Cara's Castle' wouldn't be out of place, either. Throw in 'Go Tell the Drummer Man' for good measure. Hey presto, a whole new Clouds. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:37:06 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Songs not on albums Well Jeff (in some parts of Ireland that's how we say hello) I had not even thought of clouds, partly because i never listen to it. I find it quite dull (perhaps it is just too subtle for me and the problem lies within, but i will continue to blame the album). I agree about STAS, even though i did suggest adding songs in there. I might go and do a clouds mix with your suggestions and see how it runs for me. Without rooting through every bootleg i've ever gotten me hands on, i'm pretty certain i don't know cara's castle. GARRET NP - Warren Zevon, Poor Poor Pitiful Me On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:47 AM, JEFF HANKINS wrote: > I'll muscle in on this subject (a day late, but hey, that's the price we > 'digest'[ people pay) > to say > I'd leave STAS well alone - conceptually it hangs together perfectly as a > unity, as much as, well, as Hejira, even! (And Mr MullerB stop > bullyingB Penance Crane . Great little narrative seaside murder betrayal > song) > The album I'd REALLY want to re-jig would be Clouds. Sure, I love it but it > has a feel of being assembled without due thought (sacrilege?): 'Songs to > Aging Children'/'Roses Blue' - both great songs but too quirky. Drop 'em. > (And > why only the 10 songs. Could easily fit 12.) 'Gift of the Magi' would fit > nicely in alongside 'The Gallery'. Yes, 'Just like me' would be a great > contrast to the more delicate brooders. And the enigmatic 'Cara's Castle' > wouldn't be out of place, either. Throw in 'Go Tell the Drummer Man' for > good > measure. > Hey presto, a whole new Clouds. > Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:22:36 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Favorite Characters on Joni songs While I have a particular liking for many of Joni's characters (subjects?) I'm particularly drawn to Sharon because I love the "reality" of the story and it is one of my favorite songs. That's why I made the pilgrimage to Mandolin Bros. a while back... I wonder if Sharon would like to retrace Joni's steps in the making of that song to see what she was singing about? But the character that has a special place in my heart, and possibly the most famous in Joni's songs (and one who doesn't even have a name) is the guy who "plays real good, for free." Again, a very true story, one in which Joni has a kind of relationship with someone she doesn't even know, and one whom she (obviously) highly respects. I've always seen the street performers whenever I go into NYC (and, of course, in other cities) and whenever I do, I think of Joni and "For Free." I also have thrown quite a few coins and dollars into guitar/sax/keyboard cases and hats to try and support this great tradition of "playin' real good for free." Kenny B ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:39:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Favorite Characters on Joni songs Edith and the Kingpin. I have such strong visual images of that song that I could could turn into a film had I the resources and ... umm ... talent. ;) Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Songs not on albums >>>For me, hands down, Urge For Going should have made it onto Blue. Mark in Sydney I have to disagree on that, although I'm sure if it had always been there I wouldn't mind. As it is, Blue seems so perfect to me that I wouldn't want to change a note. Also, while I like UfG, I like every track on Blue considerably more. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:56:58 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: UK Jonifest audio on the way soon Greetings all, Just a note to say I'm closing in on the end of my mixing project of the music from UK Jonifest 2008. About 180 songs in all (!!!!), and we didn't even record the Thursday night, so that gives an idea of how much music was played. As AIFF files they will fill about 10Gb so, when they are ready to distribute, I plan on these methods: 1) one download link of all the performances grouped in folders according to performers in AAC format which will be about 1-1.5 GB. This requires iTunes, which at this point I imagine accommodates almost everyone. The sound quality of AAC is superior to mp3 so that is my preference. There is almost no compromise between AAC and the original so I would endorse these. 2) If you want the uncompressed AIFF files I think everything will fit on 3 or 4 DVD-Rs. But I'd prefer to do a "tape tree" of these so I don't get too deep into burning/packaging/shipping. I'd probably send a set to an initial person in the US and another in the UK who can either make copies or pass on the discs after transfer to their computers. I imagine people will want to burn CDs of their favorite perfomances after they have listened through, which again is bonehead simple in iTunes. There are many many gems amongst these so you can look forward to some great listening... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:31:48 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: for UK listees primarily (NJC) Those of you in the UK, or who travel to the UK for music fests, may have noticed that the UK Festival Awards season has arrived. These awards are decided by online votes from the public, so I encourage you yo register your votes in the numerous categories. Voting is open NOW so go to the site, register, scroll down, and express your opinions. http://www.festivalawards.com Those who vote have the option of being entered into a contest for tickets in '09 to ALL the winning fests, in the various categories. I was really pleased that Fairport Convention's Cropredy festival has been nominated in SIX categories: as Best Medium-sized Festival; for Best Line-up; for the Family Festival Award; for the Grass Roots Festival Award; and for having Best Toilets. I have gone there from NYC 3 of the past 4 years and had extraordinary experiences - personal and musical - every time. Most important for me though is its nomination for Most Memorable Moment - Robert Plant's surprise appearance during Fairport's Saturday nite set. (Though I've always thought that it should be nominated here every year for the memorable Saturday midnite finale when 14,000+ join hands in the dark and sing along to Richard Thompson's "Meet on the Ledge". If you are unfamiliar with this seminal Fairport song, do a YouTube search. It has anthem status in the UK.) Laura Marling is nominated for Best Newcomer. There's a category for fest Innovations, which might influence how fests in general are organized in future years. In looking at the categories, I think folk & folk-rock and roots is hard done by, as there are lots of categories for urban, pop, rock, etc, but none for folk-roots artists. Join in the fun..... results October 30. B PS: Cropredy has tried repeatedly in recent years to entice Joni into travelling over to perform at the fest to no avail. Fairport was one of the first bands to do covers of her songs, most notably Chelsea Morning. So yes, there is a Joni connection tracing back 40 years. from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:30:37 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: njc, Paul Newman on the back of a cartoon coaster, and more..... Hi Terra and All: Let me see if I can quickly answer some of your questions before I run out to Proud-headed Queen Lizzie's quick lunch stand. Anybody hungry? I'll buy! http://www.lizziescurbside.com/ She's "a pretty good cook" (great actually), although she can't spell. LOL! You asked: "I haven't done any reading yet except for here. I know they're extremely private, but is there mention of how Joanne's health is? And will there be any public memorial service?" Me: I haven't heard anything about her health. I do believe she is still very active in the Westport Country Playhouse. I haven't heard anything about a public memorial service but I will keep you posted. ******* . Me: Funny, there are hardly any mentions in all the articles about his Hole in the Wall Gang camps. Terra: Wow, I'm really surprised (and disappointed) by that. I don't know if that was the first charitable group he founded, but I'm pretty certain it preceded Newman's Own, yes? Me again: I think Newman's Own came first. "Newman's Own began almost by accident before Christmas in 1980 when the actor and his friend, the writer A. E. Hotchner, were holed up in Newman9s basement, filling old wine bottles with homemade salad dressing, presents for friends" (HC) And forgive me! I was wrong in my too-quick reading. There was this: "Particularly close to his heart were the Hole-in-the-Wall camps for children with life-threatening health conditions. One day, over 20 years ago, while sitting in a rowboat on a little woodland lake (TIC! I'm going to get a boat, and we can row it.....), then full of snapping turtles and surrounded by the Connecticut woods, he envisioned an old Western town like the one in "Butch Cassidy" stretched along the shore. But its facades would hide not only "roughing it" accommodations for children who would come for two weeks, strictly for summer fun, but all the modern equipment that health emergencies might require, and a top cadre of medical personnel in western costume. Today, there is an association of such camps -- 11 member camps around the world, all on different themes, in Connecticut, New York, Florida, California, North Carolina, Ireland, United Kingdom, Hungary, France, Italy and Israel -- with additional programs in Vietnam and Africa." More than 135,000 have enjoyed a Hole-in-the-Wall camp for free, since the first one opened." FOR FREE! Amy and all these kids went for FREE! (Holy merde. He just gets better and better, doesn't he?) Heart and humor and humility and generosity and......he ain't bad lookin'! ****** Terra again: Too bad the Dems didn't try to run him for Prez against Reagan or Poppy Bu$h . . . he might even have captured the NASCAR vote! Me again: LOL! Good one. You're right! ****** I like what Sally Field said: "I was blessed to have know him. The world is better because of him. Sometimes God makes perfect people and Paul Newman was one of them."  Sally Field. In searching for that exact quote (I saw it on a news banner last night), I found this (more quotes): http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gIT3qj6-jLJoLNS-yrC6uQ8c4C5QD93F83Q00 Laughing (and crying) at how is his perfection will never be denied, Patti P., a broadcasting tower waving for ya NPIMH: Don't it always seem to go, you don't know what you've got til it's gone..... _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:18:44 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: NJC - The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning ...a message from Michael Moore I got this email today from Michael Moore's mailing list. He has a new, free movie available at his website called "Slacker Uprising". I haven't had a chance to see it yet but plan to watch it this week. Cassy Friends, Let me cut to the chase. The biggest robbery in the history of this country is taking place as you read this. Though no guns are being used, 300 million hostages are being taken. Make no mistake about it: After stealing a half trillion dollars to line the pockets of their war-profiteering backers for the past five years, after lining the pockets of their fellow oilmen to the tune of over a hundred billion dollars in just the last two years, Bush and his cronies -- who must soon vacate the White House -- are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door. No matter what they say, no matter how many scare words they use, they are up to their old tricks of creating fear and confusion in order to make and keep themselves and the upper one percent filthy rich. Just read the first four paragraphs of the lead story in last Monday's New York Times and you can see what the real deal is: "Even as policy makers worked on details of a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry, Wall Street began looking for ways to profit from it. "Financial firms were lobbying to have all manner of troubled investments covered, not just those related to mortgages. "At the same time, investment firms were jockeying to oversee all the assets that Treasury plans to take off the books of financial institutions, a role that could earn them hundreds of millions of dollars a year in fees. "Nobody wants to be left out of Treasury's proposal to buy up bad assets of financial institutions." Unbelievable. Wall Street and its backers created this mess and now they are going to clean up like bandits. Even Rudy Giuliani is lobbying for his firm to be hired (and paid) to "consult" in the bailout. The problem is, nobody truly knows what this "collapse" is all about. Even Treasury Secretary Paulson admitted he doesn't know the exact amount that is needed (he just picked the $700 billion number out of his head!). The head of the congressional budget office said he can't figure it out nor can he explain it to anyone. And yet, they are screeching about how the end is near! Panic! Recession! The Great Depression! Y2K! Bird flu! Killer bees! We must pass the bailout bill today!! The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Falling for whom? NOTHING in this "bailout" package will lower the price of the gas you have to put in your car to get to work. NOTHING in this bill will protect you from losing your home. NOTHING in this bill will give you health insurance. Health insurance? Mike, why are you bringing this up? What's this got to do with the Wall Street collapse? It has everything to do with it. This so-called "collapse" was triggered by the massive defaulting and foreclosures going on with people's home mortgages. Do you know why so many Americans are losing their homes? To hear the Republicans describe it, it's because too many working class idiots were given mortgages that they really couldn't afford. Here's the truth: The number one cause of people declaring bankruptcy is because of medical bills. Let me state this simply: If we had had universal health coverage, this mortgage "crisis" may never have happened. This bailout's mission is to protect the obscene amount of wealth that has been accumulated in the last eight years. It's to protect the top shareholders who own and control corporate America. It's to make sure their yachts and mansions and "way of life" go uninterrupted while the rest of America suffers and struggles to pay the bills. Let the rich suffer for once. Let them pay for the bailout. We are spending 400 million dollars a day on the war in Iraq. Let them end the war immediately and save us all another half-trillion dollars! I have to stop writing this and you have to stop reading it. They are staging a financial coup this morning in our country. They are hoping Congress will act fast before they stop to think, before we have a chance to stop them ourselves. So stop reading this and do something -- NOW! Here's what you can do immediately: 1. Call or e-mail Senator Obama. Tell him he does not need to be sitting there trying to help prop up Bush and Cheney and the mess they've made. Tell him we know he has the smarts to slow this thing down and figure out what's the best route to take. Tell him the rich have to pay for whatever help is offered. Use the leverage we have now to insist on a moratorium on home foreclosures, to insist on a move to universal health coverage, and tell him that we the people need to be in charge of the economic decisions that affect our lives, not the barons of Wall Street. 2. Take to the streets. Participate in one of the hundreds of quickly-called demonstrations that are taking place all over the country (especially those near Wall Street and DC). 3. Call your Representative in Congress and your Senators. (click here to find their phone numbers). Tell them what you told Senator Obama. When you screw up in life, there is hell to pay. Each and every one of you reading this knows that basic lesson and has paid the consequences of your actions at some point. In this great democracy, we cannot let there be one set of rules for the vast majority of hard-working citizens, and another set of rules for the elite, who, when they screw up, are handed one more gift on a silver platter. No more! Not again! Yours, Michael Moore MMFlint@aol.com MichaelMoore.com P.S. Having read further the details of this bailout bill, you need to know you are being lied to. They talk about how they will prevent golden parachutes. It says NOTHING about what these executives and fat cats will make in SALARY. According to Rep. Brad Sherman of California, these top managers will continue to receive million-dollar-a-month paychecks under this new bill. There is no direct ownership given to the American people for the money being handed over. Foreign banks and investors will be allowed to receive billion-dollar handouts. A large chunk of this $700 billion is going to be given directly to Chinese and Middle Eastern banks. There is NO guarantee of ever seeing that money again. P.P.S. From talking to people I know in DC, they say the reason so many Dems are behind this is because Wall Street this weekend put a gun to their heads and said either turn over the $700 billion or the first thing we'll start blowing up are the pension funds and 401(k)s of your middle class constituents. The Dems are scared they may make good on their threat. But this is not the time to back down or act like the typical Democrat we have witnessed for the last eight years. The Dems handed a stolen election over to Bush. The Dems gave Bush the votes he needed to invade a sovereign country. Once they took over Congress in 2007, they refused to pull the plug on the war. And now they have been cowered into being accomplices in the crime of the century. You have to call them now and say "NO!" If we let them do this, just imagine how hard it will be to get anything good done when President Obama is in the White House. THESE DEMOCRATS ARE ONLY AS STRONG AS THE BACKBONE WE GIVE THEM. CALL CONGRESS NOW. Join Mike's Mailing List | Join Mike's Facebook Group | Become Mike's MySpace Friend You are currently subscribed to michaelmoore as: SlickWoman@comcast.net To unsubscribe click here or send a blank email to leave-15292816-59984371.ebb7d7476336085aea1f32869b4205bc@go.netatlantic.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:00:17 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Songs not on albums I can't imagine Blue without "All I Want" and "The Last Time I Saw Richard." She made the right decision. Why does everyone diss _Clouds_? I love that album. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael Flaherty Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:42 AM To: Mark-Leon Thorne; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Songs not on albums >>>For me, hands down, Urge For Going should have made it onto Blue. Mark in Sydney I have to disagree on that, although I'm sure if it had always been there I wouldn't mind. As it is, Blue seems so perfect to me that I wouldn't want to change a note. Also, while I like UfG, I like every track on Blue considerably more. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:20:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Songs not on albums I like your idea better, Jeff - Clouds is less thematic and more a collection of songs. I'd hate to dump anything from it, but you picked the 2 that would be first to go if something had to, just as Nathan LaFreneer and Pirate would be the first to go from STAS, even though your treatment of it was nice, at its core it's too quirky and disjointed. Lucky for us we have Henning, Christina and BYT to get those unheard songs out there. Bob NP: Loretta Lynn, "Mrs. Leroy Brown" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:39:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Songs not on albums - --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Bob Muller wrote: > Lucky for us we have Henning, Christina and BYT to get > those unheard songs out there. > Has anyone ever done "A melody in your name"? Are there any Joni recordings of it? (I'd be so embarrassed if it turned out I did have a copy of Joni singing it!) I quite like that song. Learned it from the "Joni Mitchell Songbook" - the one with the painting from "Clouds" on the cover. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:55:37 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: NJC - The Rich Are Staging a Coup This Morning ...a message from Michael Moore Thanks for posting this. (A friend also sent it, but you beat him to it.) Mr. Moore speaks for me---again. The only thing I'd like to add is this--WARNING: a few expletives are uttered, along with a lot of unpleasant truths. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI5EY5kqiBU Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss my > sweet ass. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:07:54 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: ZODIAC And ZEN -- Psychedelic Joni Oooooh--I don't know, Mark. I really like "Roses Blue." Especially with all the mysterious references to astrology and such. Very dark and foreboding. And it's perhaps the only recording by Joni that could be classified as sounding "psychedelic." In my opinion, "Roses Blue" is somewhat underrated (while I'd say that "Amelia," "Song For Sharon" and particularly "Coyote"--all from 'Hejira'--are generally overrated, with their droning, repetitive melodies). In fact, next to the brilliant Paul Rothchild-produced opener "Tin Angel," it just might be my second-favorite song from 'Clouds.' XXXOOO, Billy NP: 'Jefferson's Tree of Liberty' (2008) by Jefferson Starship _______________________________________ Mark (mark.travis@gte.net) wrote: >>> Maybe it ("Urge For Going") would fit on the 'Clouds' album in place of "Roses Blue" (not my favorite Joni song). <<< ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:26:12 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: Favorite Character Hmmmmmm... Mine is probably "CAREY" (since he's "a mean old daddy"). ;-) Honorable mentions go to the mysterious "Blue Boy," and maybe "Rose" (from "Roses Blue"). Also, "the guy at the gaspumps" (from "Barangrill") seems pretty cool, too! Oh, and how can I forget "the blonde in the bleachers." XXXOOO, Billy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:01:08 +0100 From: "Jamie Zubairi Home" Subject: Re: Favorite Character I've always felt and perhaps understood the woman who dodges the light like Blanche Dubois. Waiting for a sign, even if it's an action that you do, to yourself (a friend of mine knows it's going to be a good day if she can get her cigarette in her mouth (by throwing it into her mouth) in under 5 takes. Ok, not as life-changing as an example, but you get my drift. I've always felt the exuberance of the Botticelli Black Boy, who's street-trade patter is uplifting and exciting. I've loved reading everyone's favourite characters. I agree with some of them and am nicely reminded about some of the others. I just thought I'd share mine. Much Joni Jamie Zooby 2008/9/30 > Hmmmmmm... > > Mine is probably "CAREY" (since he's "a mean old daddy"). ;-) > > Honorable mentions go to the mysterious "Blue Boy," and maybe "Rose" (from > "Roses Blue"). Also, "the guy at the gaspumps" (from "Barangrill") seems > pretty > cool, too! > > Oh, and how can I forget "the blonde in the bleachers." > > > XXXOOO, > Billy > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! Everest Blog: http://jamiezubairi.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:32:56 -0400 From: Steve Harper Subject: FW: So, who are Freddy and Juan anyways? Ken and I were just observing the tenth anniversary, and came up with the question in the subject header. _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550 F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:33:04 EDT From: Wtking59@cs.com Subject: Re: "Rainy Night House" w/ The L.A. Express Warning: Slight political comment ahead (YO, Patti)! :-D VERY interesting that everyone LOVES this sensational version of "Rainy Night House" so much, while the disc it's taken from ('Miles of Aisles') always seems to languish somewhat in the (JMDL) album poll. This is especially troubling to me since it tied as one of her two most commercially successful recordings (along with 'Court And Spark,' it reached #2 on the Billboard album charts) shortly after its late-1974 release date (note: by far, the closest she's ever come--before or since--has been #4 with 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' in '75). Gotta say it all kinda reminds me of the way our current--and inexplicably baffling--Presidential polls are shaping up. And THIS after the worst political administration in U.S. history. I mean, I really don't understand how they can even be CLOSE after all the corruption and lies of the past eight years. But, maybe it's just me. The wonderful, "reworked" arrangements on 'MOA' (by Tom Scott and The L.A. Express) still sound so organic and fresh--particularly when compared to the dated, artificial sound of 'THOSL.' And Joni's strong, soaring vocals on this historic tour remain the greatest of her entire career. Therefore, I think that comparing the brilliant 'Miles of Aisles' to the comparatively disastrous 'The Hissing of Summer Lawns' (or even 'Hejira,' for that matter) is sorta like comparing Barack Obama to John McCain. To me, there IS no comparison. IMO, the hands-down winners of BOTH should be obvious to anyone with ears and/or a functioning brain! :-o So, vote OBAMA (...and 'Miles of Aisles') !!! XXXOOO, Billy P.S. Did that sound HARSH? ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:53:16 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Alleluia for Paul Newman Hi Loves: I swore I was going to get a good grip on my grief and not post any more about Paul Newman, but I just watched David Letterman and he sucked me back this way. What did he play at the end of his tribute to Paul but Leonard Cohen's Alleluia. (Hallelujah? Tough word to spell. Give me a break. It's very late when I walk in.) http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/video_player/index/php/965968.phtml "Took care of other people...humanitarian genius....take care of your fellow humans....ought to be a saint...." Yeah, what he said. "Carry the torch of peace and love, until we meet again." xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #231 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------