From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #229 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, September 28 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 229 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Ani, njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] SV: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs ["Marion Leffler" <] Will Joni ever mellow out ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: The Seeding of Summer Lawns [Garret ] Petition for Nobel prize for Pete Seeger - njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: Song for Sharon, now album [Laura Stanley ] RE: will Joni ever mellow out? [Laura Stanley ] Auguries of Innocence, njc [Laura Stanley ] Joni, Bob Dylan and Joan Baez on youtube - This land is my land [est86mlm] njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman [Patti Parlette ] njc, a little more on Cool Hand Luke [Patti Parlette ] Re: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman [Bob Muller ] Another short note from Sharon [Bob Muller ] Re: The Seeding of Summer Lawns [Bob Muller ] Re: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs [Bob Muller ] Re: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman [Catherine McKay ] Re: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman [Bob Muller ] Ani (NJC) ["Paul Castle" ] marcel desilets NJC new CD release [Mags ] RE: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman [Patti Parlette ] vaya con dios, paul newman - njc [David Eoll ] Re: njc, Palin on America and Russia ["Mark Scott" ] RE: njc, Palin on America and Russia ["Kate Bennett" ] sarah palin vlogs njc ["Kate Bennett" ] From Bo (I never know what to put in the subject line) [Peep Richman ] Probably NJC/From Bo [Marianne Rizzo ] EXTRA COPY of The Seeding of Summer Lawns [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Jaden (now spelled correctly, sorry) (njc) [Vince ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:13:18 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Ani, njc Ani di Franco is playing *twice *in Catalonia next month (woo hoo). Anyone planning to catch her fall tour in the US, which opens today, I think? I would love to hear reports of how it's going. mike in bcn Hi Mike I saw Ani last year and she was always good. The opening act for all Ani shows is the extraordinary Hamell on Trial, who is a great guitarist and a comic genius. I would definitely go just to see Hamell. Knowing your sense of humor you are bound to dig him. I think there is another female singer as an extra opening act and she's pretty good. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:57:35 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs Strangely enough, not Sharon, nor Edith, or Scarlett. Not Amelia or Cherokee Louise. I could go on but will spare you the countdown. It's actually Harry. I feel sorry for him for having fallen into the trap we all would like to avoid but haven't always. I feel sympathy for his wife, too, although Joni doesn't seem to. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr do9eatdo9@yahoo.com Skickat: den 27 september 2008 03:26 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: RE: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs Bob wrote: So....if you were touched by what Sharon shared with us, let me know so that I can pass the good feelings along. >> Tell her that she has a place in heart and mind of all Joni fans and that "Sharon" is one of most favorite characters on Joni's songs. Rian PS. For reason unknown, my most favorite character on Joni's song is : Edith. What's yours? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:12:43 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Will Joni ever mellow out Does any of us really know what Joni is like? All we know is what she has been willing to share. She has appeared to be bitter and angry in some interviews and over some issues in her work, and most often, she seemed justified. She has also appeared to be soft and mellow, wise and vulnerable, weak and strong, in many of her songs. What she is like in her everyday personal life is known only to her and those close to her. I prefer to respect her privacy and refrain from speculating about the "real" Joni. Although I must admit I couldn't put down Girls like us, shame on me! I felt like a peeping tom, but in my defence - I didn't really believe much of it or cared. It read like one of those magazines we have here in Europe always reporting on the comings and goings of royalty. For those still interested in the "real" Joni, her friend Sharon most certainly is a much better source than the Weller woman. Just my opinion. Have a great weekend, Marion ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:59:33 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: The Seeding of Summer Lawns Hi Kay, thanks for posting these links. I'm downloading the Fleetwood Mac stuff. I got confused at the recent Jonifest when someone was explainging to me (apologies i can't remember who) that the hissing demos and the seeding of summer lawns are in fact different things. Can anyone refresh my memory here? GARRET On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Kay Ashley wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I know that a lot of you already have this bootleg, but I just found it > today on the BigOzine web site and thought I'd compile it for you guys and > put it on YouSendIt.com. The files are 192 kbps MP3s and I attached the > cover image to the files, so they're iPod-ready. BigO is only making it > available for 48 hours, but you have a week to get it here: > > https://rcpt.yousendit.com/609928884/8ef60bfea77f961d858ba972f1942c24 > > If any of you don't know about BigO, check it out. Weekly free bootlegs, > lots of interesting stuff. They also have the Fleetwood Mac "Largo" live > bootleg available now, only for the next 48 hours. > > Link to Joni on BigO (you can get complete artwork and liner notes): > > http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html > > Link to Fleetwood Mac's Largo: > > http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARfmlargo.html > > :-) > Kay > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > KAY ASHLEY ~ Singer-Songwriter > http://www.kayashley.com > http://www.myspace.com/kayashley > http://www.sonicbids.com/kayashley > http://www.new.facebook.com/people/Kay_Ashley/585981930 > > Ring the bells that still can ring. > Forget your perfect offering. > There is a crack in everything. > That's how the light gets in. > ~Leonard Cohen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:27:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Petition for Nobel prize for Pete Seeger - njc There's an online petition asking American Friends Service Committee to enter Pete Seeger as their nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize for 2008. You can sign it here: http://www.petitionthem.com/default.asp?sect=detail&pet=3774 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:54:14 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: mellowing Hi anon anon, just a quick comment. While i've found Joni CAN come across as offputtingly self-absorbed and yes at times arrogant, these traits tend to come out most strongly when she's on the defensive, in an interview situation she finds antagonistic or superficial. In relaxed settings (I'm talking public appearances, interviews here, as obviously very few people know what she's like in private), her sense of humour and her warmth are very striking. Mich _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Song for Sharon, now album This was great!!!! Monika wrote: Having her write an entire album in your honor? Haha, I'm kidding. - - -Monika - - --- On Fri, 9/26/08, Kate Bennett wrote: Can you imagine anything more wonderful than having Joni write a song in your honor? Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:15:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: RE: will Joni ever mellow out? Anon anon wrote: Don't get me wrong, I love Joni's music. However, she seems to me, from reading about her, to be basically a very temperamental, angry, bitter, demanding, hard, arrogant, difficult person... I'm sure she has a softer side under neathe, and that side can be glimpsed in her songs, but that side of her seems to be overshadowed by her tough, difficult side... I hope that she becomes softer as she gets older... Yo, I remember the poet William Blake saying something like people go from Innocence to Experience to a Higher Innocence. Joni seems to be and have been in "Experience" for a long time. So, my guess is she will enter a Higher Innocence in the nearing future, and her lyrics will once again bring out happiness in beautiful metaphors in an even higher way than when she started out. (I just had a Smurphy voice come into my head saying... "and what drug will that require Laura?" Shhhhhh Smurph) Love Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:24:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Auguries of Innocence, njc Auguries of Innocence To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower, Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour. A Robin Red breast in a Cage Puts all Heaven in a Rage. A dove house fill'd with doves & Pigeons Shudders Hell thro' all its regions. A dog starv'd at his Master's Gate Predicts the ruin of the State. A Horse misus'd upon the Road Calls to Heaven for Human blood. Each outcry of the hunted Hare A fibre from the Brain does tear. A Skylark wounded in the wing, A Cherubim does cease to sing. The Game Cock clipp'd and arm'd for fight Does the Rising Sun affright. Every Wolf's & Lion's howl Raises from Hell a Human Soul. The wild deer, wand'ring here & there, Keeps the Human Soul from Care. The Lamb misus'd breeds public strife And yet forgives the Butcher's Knife. The Bat that flits at close of Eve Has left the Brain that won't believe. The Owl that calls upon the Night Speaks the Unbeliever's fright. He who shall hurt the little Wren Shall never be belov'd by Men. He who the Ox to wrath has mov'd Shall never be by Woman lov'd. The wanton Boy that kills the Fly Shall feel the Spider's enmity. He who torments the Chafer's sprite Weaves a Bower in endless Night. The Caterpillar on the Leaf Repeats to thee thy Mother's grief. Kill not the Moth nor Butterfly, For the Last Judgement draweth nigh. He who shall train the Horse to War Shall never pass the Polar Bar. The Beggar's Dog & Widow's Cat, Feed them & thou wilt grow fat. The Gnat that sings his Summer's song Poison gets from Slander's tongue. The poison of the Snake & Newt Is the sweat of Envy's Foot. The poison of the Honey Bee Is the Artist's Jealousy. The Prince's Robes & Beggars' Rags Are Toadstools on the Miser's Bags. A truth that's told with bad intent Beats all the Lies you can invent. It is right it should be so; Man was made for Joy & Woe; And when this we rightly know Thro' the World we safely go. Joy & Woe are woven fine, A Clothing for the Soul divine; Under every grief & pine Runs a joy with silken twine. The Babe is more than swaddling Bands; Throughout all these Human Lands Tools were made, & born were hands, Every Farmer Understands. Every Tear from Every Eye Becomes a Babe in Eternity. This is caught by Females bright And return'd to its own delight. The Bleat, the Bark, Bellow & Roar Are Waves that Beat on Heaven's Shore. The Babe that weeps the Rod beneath Writes Revenge in realms of death. The Beggar's Rags, fluttering in Air, Does to Rags the Heavens tear. The Soldier arm'd with Sword & Gun, Palsied strikes the Summer's Sun. The poor Man's Farthing is worth more Than all the Gold on Afric's Shore. One Mite wrung from the Labrer's hands Shall buy & sell the Miser's lands: Or, if protected from on high, Does that whole Nation sell & buy. He who mocks the Infant's Faith Shall be mock'd in Age & Death. He who shall teach the Child to Doubt The rotting Grave shall ne'er get out. He who respects the Infant's faith Triumph's over Hell & Death. The Child's Toys & the Old Man's Reasons Are the Fruits of the Two seasons. The Questioner, who sits so sly, Shall never know how to Reply. He who replies to words of Doubt Doth put the Light of Knowledge out. The Strongest Poison ever known Came from Caesar's Laurel Crown. Nought can deform the Human Race Like the Armour's iron brace. When Gold & Gems adorn the Plow To peaceful Arts shall Envy Bow. A Riddle or the Cricket's Cry Is to Doubt a fit Reply. The Emmet's Inch & Eagle's Mile Make Lame Philosophy to smile. He who Doubts from what he sees Will ne'er believe, do what you Please. If the Sun & Moon should doubt They'd immediately Go out. To be in a Passion you Good may do, But no Good if a Passion is in you. The Whore & Gambler, by the State Licenc'd, build that Nation's Fate. The Harlot's cry from Street to Street Shall weave Old England's winding Sheet. The Winner's Shout, the Loser's Curse, Dance before dead England's Hearse. Every Night & every Morn Some to Misery are Born. Every Morn & every Night Some are Born to sweet Delight. Some are Born to sweet Delight, Some are born to Endless Night. We are led to Believe a Lie When we see not Thro' the Eye Which was Born in a Night to Perish in a Night When the Soul Slept in Beams of Light. God Appears & God is Light To those poor Souls who dwell in the Night, But does a Human Form Display To those who Dwell in Realms of day. -- William Blake ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:45:11 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni, Bob Dylan and Joan Baez on youtube - This land is my land Keep listening and you'll hear Joni introduced and then singing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4EayTx1R64 This land is my land - Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:09:05 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....I just learned that Paul Newman passed away. Ohhhhhhhhhh. I feel compelled to interrupt the sorrow and write about him since he is from my state. (I think this is going to be a long post. Don't say I didn't warn ya!) I have brought some dreams -- two stories -- to share. The first is silly. The second is serious. Laughing and crying. You know it's the same release. 1. One funny day in high school, looking for laughter and finding it there, some giggly friends and I piled into a car for a little road trip down to Westport. (I think Chickie had the car.) Westport was a hip destination with the bright pink Remarkable Book Shoppe (a swinging hot spot where we'd buy our Kerouac -- Satori in Paris! -- and Hermann Hesse novels) and a cool ice cream parlor that had incense and peppermints and hip black-light posters. (I think that building was pink, too.) There was also a beautiful-looking French restaurant called Chez Pierre but we never went there, of course. Trop cher. Anyway, that day we decided to go looking for a party at Paul Newman's house. And we found it! I have no idea how. We pulled into his gated driveway and there were two little girls playing in the yard. Merle rolled down the window and yelled out: "Is Paul home?" We were all laughing and slapping our knees with glee. ("I can't believe we are doing this!") One of the little girls said: "No, he's at work." We backed out of the driveway, laughing it all away. We were wild in the old days! ; ) 2. You probably know that Paul Newman founded the Hole in the Wall Gang camps, the first of which is not far from my little ranch on the hill. (He and Julia Roberts were spotted once in our local Barangrill and all the locals were kicking and shaking on the floor about it for days.) These camps are now all over the world. A safe place, for kids with serious illnesses to play. http://www.holeinthewallgang.org/ My personal connection to this camp is bittersweet. Amy, my son MfM's first-ever girlfriend (they were only h.s. freshmen), went there one summer. She had leukemia, but it was in remission when they dated that fall (1998). She was the blond in the bleachers at all his damn hockey games, and she was a sweetheart. I can still picture them all cuddly in the back seat of my car. "I still think about driving in my car." (Cartwheels had not turned to car wheels yet for him, so I was the driver, who was told to *not* talk. Imaginez-vous! La Parlette ne peut pas parler?) She broke up with him just before Christmas, and he was devastated. And so was I, of course. ("Mothers are like that. Yeah, they are!") A year later, she died after a bone marrow transplant. She was fifteen. I picked MfM from school that day and brought him and his buddies to hockey practice and told the coach what had happened. All the boys were silent with red-rimmed eyes, trying to be tough. Sophomore jive. The coach just cried and turned away. And in the streets: the children screamed, The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed. But not a word was spoken; The church bells all were broken. The wake and the funeral were....there are no words. You can just imagine. At the funeral they played On Eagle's Wings and no one could hold back from crying. I saw MfM's guidance counselor on the way out of the church and I literally crashed into her arms. The line at the wake was the longest I've ever seen. Pictures everywhere of this beautiful smiling girl, and notes scribbled on lilac sprays and poster boards on easels. Paper wives and their paper kids trying to keep their gut reactions hid, with no success. Boys in stiff suits and ties and reeking of after-shave, in their frightened silence, not knowing how to act. When I finally got to Amy's mother, she (oh, merde, I'm crying again) hugged me tightly and whispered: "Amy loved Mike sooo much. She knew she was getting sick again, and that's why she broke up with him. She didn't want him to have to go through this." OMG. (Sorry for going off on that tangent and crying on your knees, but I had to write about it today.) Paul Newman gave Amy and countless other children moons and Junes and ferris wheels. Hope and fun and beautiful respites from heartbreaking illnesses. I wish I could recall with clarity the impulse that compelled me to help bring this camp into being. Id be pleased if I could announce a motive of lofty purpose. Ive been accused of compassion, of altruism, of devotion to Christian, Hebrew, and Moslem ethic, but however desperate I am to claim ownership of a high ideal, I cannot. I wanted, I think, to acknowledge Luck; the chance of it, the benevolence of it in my life, and the brutality of it in the lives of others, made especially savage for children because they may not be allowed the good fortune of a lifetime to correct it.  -- Paul Newman Rest in peace, Mr. Newman. I pray for comfort and consolation for your family. Your gift goes on. Like silence, in a bell jar.....still a song. LOVE, Patti P., near your old hometown, sending up prayers for you and Amy and Jayden and Muller's mother gone 20 years and Joseph's recently-departed dear mother and my own recently-departed sweet mother Audrey Joan whose birthday is this Friday, and you KNOW there are more.... P.S. I've got the urge for going to the store to buy some Newman's lemonade today. Sip some tea and lemonade, in his honor. _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn 10 hidden secrets from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:23:48 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, a little more on Cool Hand Luke "Passionately opposed to the Vietnam War, and in favor of civil rights, he was so famously liberal that he ended up on President Nixon's "enemies list," one of the actor's proudest achievements, he liked to say." (CSNY TIC: tin soldiers and Nixon coming....) I never knew that! No wonder I liked him. I'd be tears and fears and feeling proud of that, too! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/paul-newman-dies-at-83_n_129860.html xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life togetherat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:46:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Will Joni ever mellow out Exactly. None of us here know Joni on a personal level. As a public figure, we only see what we are exposed to or what she herself chooses to present. We also tend to take something from her music and relate it to her in certain cases. With such limited access to Joni, you can only honestly make assumptions based upon your own personal interpretation of what you see and hear. From my eyes, I don't think Joni is just an angry, difficult, bitter person and such. I think there are certain topics that she is angry about--the environment, the record industry, etc etc. Just like any other human being, there are things that frustrate the hell out of her. Plus, if an interviewer asks Joni about one of these topics, she'll reply in that nature. To me, she seems like a very passionate person who has to express herself, especially when it comes to certain heated topics. And I certainly don't think Joni is just bitter. To be truly bitter (all around and what not), you can't have any sort of hope. That is what I think bitterness is--a void of hope. Just from Shine, you can tell Joni hasn't lost all hope. That right there, in my honest opinion, proves she she isn't simply bitter. Not to mention she still has her sense of humor in tact and seems truly happy with certain things in her life (just like anybody else). Although from my eyes, she seems to be spiritually, emotionally, and creatively restless--always seeking something more. That is just my opinion but I can understand and relate to that aspect of her personality. - -Monika - --- On Sat, 9/27/08, Marion Leffler wrote: Does any of us really know what Joni is like? All we know is what she has been willing to share. She has appeared to be bitter and angry in some interviews and over some issues in her work, and most often, she seemed justified. She has also appeared to be soft and mellow, wise and vulnerable, weak and strong, in many of her songs. What she is like in her everyday personal life is known only to her and those close to her. I prefer to respect her privacy and refrain from speculating about the "real" Joni. Although I must admit I couldn't put down Girls like us, shame on me! I felt like a peeping tom, but in my defence - I didn't really believe much of it or cared. It read like one of those magazines we have here in Europe always reporting on the comings and goings of royalty. For those still interested in the "real" Joni, her friend Sharon most certainly is a much better source than the Weller woman. Just my opinion. Have a great weekend, Marion ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:19:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman And one of her two crushes (not counting Pop, of course) was Paul Newman. She was a sucker for those eyes. The other was Harry Belafonte. Bob NP: Cowboy Junkies, "200 More Miles" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:14:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Another short note from Sharon Just passing along the dialogue, just got this note: "Just a quick note to thank you and your internet friends for jogging my memories of Joni. I have to reach back some 60 odd years ( a very long time) and I have been doing that these past days - that is a gift to me. I will continue to think about my times with her over the years and will share them when I feel ready and my thoughts are more organized. I most certainly do not think of your interest as an intrusion - on the contrary - I am both honoured and humbled by it." Bob NP: Alicia Keys, "If I Was Your Woman/Walk On By" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:23:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: The Seeding of Summer Lawns The Hissing Demos were first out of the gate - I remember getting my copy from Catgirl when she & Brian and myself were having a minifest in Philly. Don Rowe took his copy and went into his home studio and tried to clean up the audio. I couldn't ever hear any significant difference between the two, but I don't have audiophile equipment so that's probably why. He also added 5-6 bonus live tracks to fill out the disc. Bob NP: David Baerwald, "Young Anymore" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:24:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Sharon Update+ favorite character on Joni's songs The Strange Boy...because whenever someone tells me to grow up I always reply 'give me one good reason why..." Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:29:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: njc, Palin on America and Russia Wow synchronicity strikes again Patti (since we're both on digest I suppose we both missed each others comments made at the same time!) Funny to hear the Chronicle also made that comparison between the two! Kate B Patii P>A colleague in the hallway just told me that the Chronicle of Higher Ed compares her to Miss Teen South Carolina (or whoever that was was....you know who I mean).< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:41:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman - --- On Sat, 9/27/08, Patti Parlette wrote: > Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....I just learned that Paul Newman passed > away. > > Ohhhhhhhhhh. > > I feel compelled to interrupt the sorrow and write about > him since he is from my state. > I didn't know he was from your state. He was a helluva guy. I know he did a lot for various charities, but didn't know about the camps for kids. I love his salad dressing. I don't know if they sell the lemonade up here - if so, I've never seen it. What a sad story about Amy. Thanks a lot for making me cry! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:00:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman And his talented wife, Joanne Woodward, is from Greenville. She went to Greenville High School, about a mile up Augusta Road from me, and photos of her performing in shows at the Greenville Little Theatre adorn the walls of that theatre. Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Song With Rose" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:10:49 +0100 From: "Paul Castle" Subject: Ani (NJC) In October Ani is touring Europe with Anais Mitchell and Hamell on Trial - I see they're playing the Paradiso in Amsterdam on Oct 27 so I'm hoping the show will go up on FabChannel soon after - they still have her 2004 show at http://www.fabchannel.com/ani_difranco_concert/2004-11-09 Been spending some time buried in my headphones watching various FabChannel concerts recently - Shawn Colvin's Paradiso show last year - great version of Polaroids - http://www.fabchannel.com/shawn_colvin_concert/ Also really love the shows by Swedish singer songwriter, Ane Brun - http://www.fabchannel.com/ane_brun_2008_concert/2008-04-17/ and one of my current faves, Iron and Wine http://www.fabchannel.com/iron_and_wine_concert/ best to all PaulC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: marcel desilets NJC new CD release Just puttin it out there.....because I believe that if you build it, they will come a runnin..... my dear friend and chosen brother Marcel Desilets has a new CD hot off the press. The cost of the CD is (only) $15.00 . If you are willing to pay for the shipping as well. I am willing to make arrangements for you to be the proud owner of this Wonderful singer/songwriter's newest work., To Be Here. motivation: Im in the liner notes, as is my sweetheart ;--) okay okay so are a bunch of other people but it's brilliant and humbling. I'll direct you to Marcel's "myspace" (or is that his space ;-) where you can hear what he sounds like. He has done all the studio recording himself !! which amazes me inandofitself http://www.myspace.com/marceldesilets there's an image of the new CD plus some of the songs from the new one as well as the older ones. Mags, who loves doing PR for musicians xo write me off list, and we can make arrangements ;-) i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:47:20 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: njc, R.I.P. Paul Newman CoT wrote: > What a sad story about Amy. Thanks a lot for making me cry! > Sorry, babe. But you weren't the only one. I just heard from my h.s. friend Debbie, who made that road trip to his house: "Oh, Liv, I KNOW, I was sad to hear of philanthropist (especially for THE CHILDREN!) Paul as well!! And I think I WAS there when we went to his house! Tears, perusing your dissertation on Amy ... aw .... "THE CHILDREN!!!!"" *** (She calls me Liv because she always said I looked like Liv Ullman. Ha. Believe me, this is a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder, as I now look at my haggard face in the bathroom light! Or rather, I think it's more because I can't conceal emotion. What I'm feeling's always written on my face.) Muller, your mother being a sucker for his eyes? Of course, this popped into my head: Behind the lash and the circles blue He looked as only a priest can thru And his eyes said me and his eyes said you And my eyes said let us try And then I turned on the TV and saw Paul Newman being interviewed, wearing a priest's collar! I kid you not! Or maybe I was just jonillucinating, as I sometimes do. (Sometimes we do.... our tongues turn blue.) Okay, c'est tout pour moi. I have to go to my BFF's son's ceremony of the bells and lace. (Yes, the one who became my BFF when, in a college apartment in 1975, she put Blue on the turntable and asked: "Do you like Joni Mitchell"?) I have to pack my suspenders and that thirties evening gown and get my eyelids painted up green. Veil this reckless fool here, ya know? More tears and fears and feeling proud. I can't believe her little boy is getting MARRIED! How the years spin by. And the seasons, they go round and round. Bon weekend, tout le Jonimonde! xo, pp in Flip City today NPIMH: Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world, The heart has its beaches, its homeland and thoughts of its own. Wake now, discover that you are the song that the mornin brings, But the heart has its seasons, its evenins and songs of its own. _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:49:55 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: vaya con dios, paul newman - njc I only receive the digest, so I won't know until about 0700 UTC whether anyone has mentioned this already. Paul Newman has died. I had heard that he was not well, and he hasn't been a young man for some time now, so this isn't a complete suprise. But, I still gasped when I learned the news. Besides being a fantastic actor (I've got The Verdict all lined up for tonight), he was a great humanitarian. Through his Newman's Own product line alone he has raised over $200M for charity. We need more people like him in the world. Now, sadly, we have one fewer. Respectfully, David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:02:31 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: njc, Palin on America and Russia I thought it was interesting that after the debate last night, Joe Biden was asked to comment. Sarah Palin declined and instead we had a smirking Rudy Giuliani representing the McCain/Republican side. So why no Sarah? It will be interesting to see how she does in her debate with Biden. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Bennett" To: Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: njc, Palin on America and Russia > Wow synchronicity strikes again Patti (since we're both on digest I > suppose > we both missed each others comments made at the same time!) Funny > to hear > the Chronicle also made that comparison between the two! Kate B > > Patii P>A colleague in the hallway just told me that the Chronicle > of Higher > Ed compares her to Miss Teen South Carolina (or whoever that was > was....you > know who I mean).< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:14:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: njc, Palin on America and Russia Hey Mark, I'd heard her handlers didn't want her to which is no surprise seeing how she's not done so well lately with the interviews. The upcoming VP debate should be a hoot! Kate >So why no Sarah? It will be interesting to see how she does in her debate with Biden. Mark in Seattle< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:37:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: winnipeg honours richard thompson http://www.winnipegfolkfestival.ca/wp/2008/09/26/richard-thompson-to-receive- wff-2008-artistic-achievement-award/ which means he will be here to receive the award. thought y'all might be interesed. mags npimh: this ain't no prairie hick town ma'am ;--) i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:41:08 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: sarah palin vlogs njc Oh these are sooooo funny- check them all out when you have time but be careful about where you listen (i.e. work or around the youngsters) since some of it is R rated. Have any of you NYers seen her weekly comedy act? Kate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEW12XLUM7A ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: From Bo (I never know what to put in the subject line) 'Mornin, JoniTowners, I'm in that hazy mind-state when you've just opened your eyes...after having hardly any sleep (sleep, after the debate???)...someone calls you on the telephone and you try to respond..and, for me, I can never return to my dreamland. This is probably when I enjoy writing the most...aware and not quite aware of reality, with my unconscious wide open...much more accessible than after being up and about for several hours. My telephone sits on my computer desk... this morning someone called me early. I seem to go on automatic pilot and check my e-mail...and look for the most recent JMDL. And I just finished reading it. Terra, I second your emotion...your thoughts, reactions, and on and on...although I feel that we've created, by our very nature of being blessed with an intense connection to Joni, a very safe place where expressing all opinions is cool...know what I mean? Before I read the Digest, I learned that Paul Newman died yesterday. How very sad, to know that we'll never again view the fruit of this man's genius. OMG, I'm hoping he didn't suffer. The raw grief his wife, children and family must be experiencing now. Sorry about my disjointed thinking...it's just that my mind flips from thought to thought. I completely agree with words of Terra's post that is in response to "anon, anon" ...yet I feel proud to be one person, part of a family who agrees to disagree...can speak (write their mind, hopefully without editing, and feel safe in doing so. Okay...now it's many hours since I began writing this post...I need to sleep but I can't seem to sink in to that enormous pleasure of complete rest and a needed break from reality. I do have some thoughts about Joni and the creative, genius tapestry of her complex personality. Joni, like many other gifted, enormously talented individuals, probably can be difficult, perfectionist at times. She may feel arrogant and share that feeling in her life, although I've never heard a word of arrogance within her lyrics. The part that I want to emphasize is that with genius comes many personality traits that we may all express from time to time, but Joni is an exception. I would guess that being so multiply talented and choosing to share her gifts with the world can cause her a lot of inner-conflict. Joni writes her lyrics from her soul and composes and plays her music from her heart. She allows us, by sharing such personal intimacies, to relate to our own life's experiences to our interpretation of what we guess (or know) to be the amazing life that Joni negotiates. Her raw honesty is so refreshing. Her warnings to her audience are never harsh, but contains some humor and suggestions, perhaps in how we can solve, resolve some of the issues we face in our lives. For this, I am, and always will be eternally grateful. I'd imagine that there is so much creativity and such rich thinking, philosophy and wisdom that Joni can feel as though she needs some down time. She possesse the amazing gift of being able to express herself through multiple, enormously creative avenues. To imagine that she has now been the primary director of her ballet is, for me, mind boggling. Unlike many people, gifted with extraordinary expressed creativity before her, she is a true legend in present day...not after her death. Personally, I feel Joni's gentleness, her strength, her understanding, her philosophy that she has shared with us to far outweigh any aspect of her personality that, as Terra pointed out, is usually integrated into the personality of such creative and gifted human beings. I feel that Joni, in my life, has been a savior, a catalyst and an unyielding comfort. Switching gears to last night's debates. Jon Milton wrote, in "Paradise Lost": "Yet from those flames No light, but rather darkness visible." That's how I felt about McCain. "A miracle is not the suspension of natural law, but the operation of a higher law." After the debate, and throughout the months and weeks prior to the election,this is how I feel about Senator Obama. "If any man was wronged by another and he neither rebukes, nor hates, nor bears a grudge against him, but forgives him with his whole heart, this is a saintly virtue." -Code of Jewish Law This is how I feel about Senator Obama, not only after this first debate, but throughout his campaign. This may sound raw and cold... From Shakespeare's "King Lear": "Nothing can come of nothing". This is how I feel about Senator McCain. I listened, intently to Senator McCain's answers, watched his facial expressions and thought that old adage: 'You're only as good as your last...action, behavior'. I put in 'action' and 'behavior'. Without too much posted response to Senator McCain's comments throughout the debate, I heard and saw him as resting on very old laurels, patronizing, name and place dropping. The words that came to mind after the listening to Senator Obama, throughout the debate, is, visionary, realistic, practical, living his values. I also was thrilled to hear Senator Obama's words as he approached his wife, "How did WE do"? Bo ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:58:39 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: RIP paul newman What a great guy, great man, and great life. R.I.P. Mr. Newman, Thank You you were one of the coolest guys ever!!!! every man dies not every man lives. gene ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:21:43 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: Probably NJC/From Bo Mark and Bo, You two make a lot of sense. I do not feel comfortalbe with the bail out plan. . I say, let the free market, or the house of cards fall. Set no bail out prescedent. Trust not the "president." save the land Marianne From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: Probably NJC/From Bo I ,have been in a state of utter silence...verbally...certainly there was/still is pounds of sounds in my head.When I heard Bush address the nation tonight and actually say that he has asked Obama & McCain to be in Washington Thursday I was completely floored.Tricky, tricky, tricky. I wonder who actually is the brain-child of this manipulative (on so many levels) presidential command?My having so little faith in the Washington machine is completely intensified at this point. And I'm wondering if "they" realized the transparency of this trick...can Bush and McCain give so very little credence to the thinking power of Americans? I found this to be such an insult. Senator Obama stated the real deal when he said that the President must be able to deal with many crisis at the same time and that he saw no reason to delay the debate (I don't know if he said this in that short footage). So, Senator Obama states his position, saying that if he is needed and called to Washington he would immediately go to Washington...but for Bush to do this on world-wide watch of his TV address tonight-it's so, so transparent. And completely insulting. I try not to post, or discuss my personal thinking concerning politics...but had to have the JMDL as an outlet for my reaction...believe me, I'm writing in a rather gentle manner, devoid of the powerful rage I feel.I would have just loved the opportunity to be in the same room with Joni if she chose to listen to Bush tonight. I can only imagine her reaction.Switching gears...Bob, I think it's a wonderful idea to compile some of our responses to what Sharon shared and send it to her. Bravo!Still not ready to answer the questions on your poll, Pamela...soon, I hope.I'm not sure if I can sleep or even rest...I was going to say tonight but it's in the wee hour of Thursday morning. Maybe I'll read "Alice in Wonderland".Be well and safe dear friends.Bo - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:26:37 -0400From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Probably NJC/From Bo Indeed Bo, I personally can't stand to watch the man...pathological liarsdon't usually change their modus operandi ... however I skimmed through arecounting of what he had to say on HuffPo...so predictable. Keep this in mind everyone. Please. As Naomi Klein has pointed out in herbook Disaster Capitalism, we (the American public) are now experiencing justwhat she describes in the narrative unfolding that is being engineered andfoisted on the masses that an 'imminent crisis is at hand. Naomi Kleinstates that panic, rushing, and "shock" are key psychological techniquesused to manipulate behavior, quite successfully done after 9/11 and theintroduction of the Patriot Act, the dissembling which was the tying of WMDand the omnipresent boogieman "Al-Qaeda" to Iraq to justify an invasion of asovereign country, and now a bailout of Bush's own crony ruling elitebuddies, so they can further enrich themselves and take the taxpayer's money(there isn't any at this point - it's simply more debt that will be issued)and run without consequence. An unregulated frenzy of greed should not allof the sudden be socialized. This is because there consequently be evenless money left to fund programs for the poor, etc... the excuse will bemade that these legitimate social programs should be severely cut back. Itis a house of cards, it is a Ponzi scheme, and let the whole thing blow upin these greedy bastard's faces. Short-sighted businessmen need to get adose of reality for the CONSEQUENCE that their fancy-named gamblinginstruments (derivatives, etc...) that made them obscenely rich that canjust as suddenly wipe out all their weatlh and let their jaguars in theirdrives be repossessed and the sex goddesses will all the sudden find theyhave no more use for these repuganant gnomes. They should be arrested, everyone of them. Any notion of a bailout for such thieves is absurd. Andunfortunately Congress (both brancehs) - beholden to campaign funds of thefailed and bailed out entities - and this sociopath we have for Presidentwho has destroyed everything he touches and bankrupted the USA are just ascomplicit as the ruling elite that they really serve. "Shine on Vegas and Wall StreetPlace your bets" - --- -Mark In Florida _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:07:09 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: EXTRA COPY of The Seeding of Summer Lawns Kay, Thanks so much for the website! I have an extra CD burned if anyone wants one. Email me privately with your address. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:58:33 -0400 From: Vince Subject: Jaden (now spelled correctly, sorry) (njc) I did spell his name wrong. I apologize. Life in ministry - when I read the obit, I discovered that a great grandmother is a former parishioner of mine. I spoke with Heidi briefly yesterday. Thank you to everyone who is praying for the family and has shared their thoughts onlist or offlist. It meant a lot to Heidi that you were keeping her in prayer. Vince *Crago, Jaden Scott * CRAGO, JADEN SCOTT (Son of Scott and Heidi) Norton Shores Baby Jaden Scott Crago, age 5 months, passed away unexpectedly Wednesday, September 24, 2008. Jaden was born April 19, 2008 to Scott and Heidi (Rupar) Crago in Muskegon. He is survived by his parents; his brother, Nicholas Scott (Brittany Ogborn) Crago; maternal grandparents, Regenia and Mark Keller of Montague and Harry and (Shirley Hannah) Rupar; paternal grandparents, William Crago and "Ammy" Patrice Sparks; great-grandparents, Virginia Hendrickson and Frank (Marva) Rupar all of Holton; uncle and godfather, Shaun (Antoinette) Rupar of Muskegon; uncles, Don Camp of Muskegon, Ron Camp of MN, William (Isabelle) Crago of Canton, MI, Dustin Sparks and Mark Reed of MN; great uncles, Jeff (Michelle) Crago of Fruitport Raymond (Heidi) Hendrickson of Holton, and DuWayne Hendrickson of TX; great-aunts, Renee (Robert) Hislop of Holton, Gladys (Earl) Stout of Whitehall and Nancy Shottey of Muskegon; godparents, Brandon Hislop and Brittany Hislop; many cousins; special friends, Jay and Jan Ruhstorfer, Doris Kittle, Wendy Botbyl, Karen Buie and the Buie bunch, Sandra Murphy, Mikelle (fiance, Eric Shegrrud) Anderson and too many others to mention. A FUNERAL SERVICE for Jaden will be held 2:00 PM Monday, September 29, 2008 at Holton Evangelical Lutheran Church, 6655 Marvin Rd. in Holton with Rev. Paul Zager officiating. Interment will be in Holton-Oakwood Cemetery. Visitation will be Sunday 2-6 pm at The Sytsema Chapel Sytsema Funeral Homes, Inc. 737 Apple Avenue 231 726-5210 Memorial contributions may be made to the Jaden Scott Crago Memorial Fund. Share memories with Jaden's family at their on-line guestbook at www.sytsemafh.com Published in the Muskegon Chronicle on 9/26/2008 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #229 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------