From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #173 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, August 21 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 173 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! [Joseph Pal] Fw : RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! [Joseph Palis ] and in the end only kindness matters ["Anita Tedder" ] Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! [Jerry Nota] Re: and in the end only kindness matters NJC and a note about LeRoi Moore [Mags ] Re: and in the end only kindness matters NJC and a note about LeRoi Moore [Victor Johnson ] SHINE at Borders Store - Cheap [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Re: njc, Neil's comin' around again [Victor Johnson ] Re: Live Joni for August [kjhsf@aol.com] Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! [Catherine McKay ] Re: VP, njc [Catherine McKay ] Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! [Michael Paz ] RE: njc, Shine on Joseph! [Sherelle Smith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:33:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! Thanks, Catherine ~ B Five bottles of differnt liquor, or liqueur, can't tell now. ;-)B They all taste good after 3 bottles. B My specialization falls under cultural geography with a focus on film, specifically Philippine cinema. It's about what makes 'national' cinema, national. I used interviews among film practitioners in the Philippines and the so-called diasporic filmmakers in NY and textual readings of specific films from Edison's 1-minute films in 1898 to the post-Marcos era. One interesting tidbit: did you know that the first cinematic depiction of Filipinos were portrayed by African Americans in 1899? Edison did a lot of these short films called actualities to drumbeat the 'victory' of Americans over Spain. So the films themselves were national projects. Funny how the word 'Filipino' did not even figure prominently then because native and ethnic Filipinos as we are known now, are called Indios by the Spaniards. Identity construction came later. So where does 'Filipino' originate. More specifically, where would we look at Filipino cinema considering that the first films were all products of colonialism. Also interesting was when the first 'talkie' happened in 1927 with "The jazz singer" (Al Jolson), it revolutionized sound cinema all over the world and voila! all 'talking' films were hailed as naitonal cinemas. Then what about the regions within a country that do not speak that language? Will Tamil filmmakers accept Bollywood as the national cinema of India? B Interesting stuff to discover these discrepant histories and what they contribute to dominant ideologies, no? B There is a lot that film textual readings can offer to view at history, identity and national formations. I know I am oversimplifying this, but the next time you seeB 'Once Were Warriors' (please please watcxh this film, everyone!) B or even 'Fargo' again, ask yourself what national/regional signifiers were highlighted and bannered and what were not given as much emphasis. And who do you think were the intended audience for these films..... B I got carried away again.... B Ciao for now, Joseph in North Carolina np: Margo Guryan - Can You Tell - --- En date deB : Mar 19.8.08, Catherine McKay a C)critB : De: Catherine McKay Objet: RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! C: joni@smoe.org, "Em" , "Joseph Palis" Date: Mardi 19 AoC;t 2008, 23h16 You drank five bottles??? Wow! B Congratulations, Joseph. Of course you would do well at it. B What was your disseration on? - --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Joseph Palis wrote: This is prolly the only time people will buy me drinks so I took advantage of this generosity but stopped at 5 bottles of assorted alcohol. Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now! _____________________________________________________________________________ Envoyez avec Yahoo! Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente http://mail.yahoo.fr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:36:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Fw : RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! - --- En date deB : Mer 20.8.08, Joseph Palis a C)critB : De: Joseph Palis Objet: RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! C: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com, joni@smoee.org Date: Mercredi 20 AoC;t 2008, 15h01 Bob, B Mucho and macho thanks. Let me know when you are in the Triangle. And make sure you buy my first drink. ;-) B Thanks and regards to Valerie, B Joseph - --- En date deB : Mar 19.8.08, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com a C)critB : De: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Objet: RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! C: "Joseph Palis" Cc: joni@smoe.org Date: Mardi 19 AoC;t 2008, 20h28 Joseph, Congratulations my friend - I will raise a glass to you at Jonifest and another one when I'm up in the triangle area. 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Une boite mail plus intelligente http://mail.yahoo.fr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:32:15 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Bose, njc >I'm still getting over the trauma of having our house broken into.< Did I miss a digest (which happens every couple of weeks, I just try to keep up) or maybe this is the first you've written of this=, I'm so sorry to hear this. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:44:55 +0100 From: "Anita Tedder" Subject: and in the end only kindness matters Hi Mags Like Lucy, I so clearly remember returning from my first Joni Fest in 2003 after such a wonderful time and receiving your email about Dave's death. It was so terribly sad. The following November I put together a 60 birthday gig/bash for Joni. You had sent JMDL the most eloquent and beautiful email entitled 'The People Who Love Joni'. I found it said so much for me and, I'm fairly sure, a great deal for others, too. It was not only about your loss of your dear brother, but also about the trials and tribulations and joys of sharing stuff here on this site, getting needs met - so much, really. Lucy read it out to the assembled people at Joni's 60th birthday gig. I know we've had a fair few discussions here recently about Joni's honesty in her writing and your piece, dear Mags, was very honest and true. I thought it so beautiful that I've always kept it. It sits in a folder along with all the Joni songs I try to play and so I still read your email'The People Who Love Joni' from time to time. It reminds me of you, my own losses and, most importantly, the power of Love. I am off to the Joni Fest here at Holycombe tomorrow and my folder with my Joni songs (and 'The People Who Love Joni') will be travelling with me. I hope you will feel carried with me and also held with love by all those at this year's Joni Fest. Thinking of you, Much love Anita _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 507 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Dave, njc Mags wrote: enya was one of dave's favourite singer/songwriters. this is from the cd that dave gave me the last time we had lunch together, just he and me. blessed memories. beautiful man, missing him terribly. Hi Mags, Thanks for sharing this touching story. I think it is very cool your brother was a fan of Enya. I would have liked to have known him. A big hug to you... Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:58:40 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! Hey, Joseph. Did you ever see the MataMata and Pilipili films from Africa, I reviewed them years back when they were first released on video. They were done by the Belgium priests in the Congo to teach moral stories, shown on sheets hung outside the villages. The actors who portrayed them in the series became the biggest film stars in Africa! Jerry NP: James Taylor - Shower the People (Live) P.S. Want to feel old? Bookends was on the Top Five Album chart 40 YEARS AGO this week. > Thanks, Catherine ~ > B > Five bottles of differnt liquor, or liqueur, can't tell now. ;-)B They all > taste good after 3 bottles. > B > My specialization falls under cultural geography with a focus on film, > specifically Philippine cinema. It's about what makes 'national' cinema, > national. I used interviews among film practitioners in the Philippines and > the so-called diasporic filmmakers in NY and textual readings of specific > films from Edison's 1-minute films in 1898 to the post-Marcos era. One > interesting tidbit: did you know that the first cinematic depiction of > Filipinos were portrayed by African Americans in 1899? Edison did a lot of > these short films called actualities to drumbeat the 'victory' of Americans > over Spain. So the films themselves were national projects. Funny how the word > 'Filipino' did not even figure prominently then because native and ethnic > Filipinos as we are known now, are called Indios by the Spaniards. Identity > construction came later. So where does 'Filipino' originate. More > specifically, where would we look at Filipino cinema considering that the > first films > were all products of colonialism. Also interesting was when the first > 'talkie' happened in 1927 with "The jazz singer" (Al Jolson), it > revolutionized sound cinema all over the world and voila! all 'talking' films > were hailed as naitonal cinemas. Then what about the regions within a country > that do not speak that language? Will Tamil filmmakers accept Bollywood as the > national cinema of India? > B > Interesting stuff to discover these discrepant histories and what they > contribute to dominant ideologies, no? > B > There is a lot that film textual readings can offer to view at history, > identity and national formations. I know I am oversimplifying this, but the > next time you seeB 'Once Were Warriors' (please please watcxh this film, > everyone!) B or even 'Fargo' again, ask yourself what national/regional > signifiers were highlighted and bannered and what were not given as much > emphasis. And who do you think were the intended audience for these > films..... > B > I got carried away again.... > B > Ciao for now, > Joseph in North Carolina > np: Margo Guryan - Can You Tell > > --- En date deB : Mar 19.8.08, Catherine McKay a > C)critB : > > De: Catherine McKay > Objet: RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! > C: joni@smoe.org, "Em" , "Joseph Palis" > > Date: Mardi 19 AoC;t 2008, 23h16 > > > > > > > > You drank five bottles??? Wow! > B > Congratulations, Joseph. Of course you would do well at it. > B > What was your disseration on? > > --- On Tue, 8/19/08, Joseph Palis wrote: > > This is prolly the > only time people will buy me drinks so I took advantage of this generosity > but stopped at 5 bottles of assorted alcohol. > > > > > > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar : Search from anywhere on the web and bookmark your > favourite sites. Download it now! > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Envoyez avec Yahoo! Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente > http://mail.yahoo.fr ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mags Subject: Re: and in the end only kindness matters NJC and a note about LeRoi Moore Anita, and all who are attending Fest this weekend, whilst i wish i was there too, i am happy that you will be together at this magical place. have a wonderful weekend and we will be nibbling on our nails, awaiting your reports. Brilliant are the gatherings of the 'people who love joni'. like a home coming. like coming home. funny thing that grief, it messes with my memory.a blessing really. there are things i do not want to bring back up to the surface. leaving all that behind is the best medicine ever. I barely remember that piece. I dont even know if I have it, I dont remember that Lucy read it. I'm sure she did, she's like that, our Queen Lulu. thank you for your wonderful message. I love that you carry that bit of my writing with you, in a special folder , sweet you. for me, the power of grief shared is in and of itself, the beginning of the process. every once in a while, i wonder if my heart could break further, but in the now, my blessed life now, i'm much more resilient to the things that used to bring me down. i believe that one never gets over loss, not completely. it's there, with us, always and in all ways. not in the heartwrenching devastating way, that first day of shock. i've never lost anyone so suddenly and i dont wish that on anyone. this grief i feel is changing shape all the time, fluid, always there, sometimes a mere ripple in the water, sometimes a raging storm , there are many lessons of survival that smack you in the face, like it or not. you getsucked into in the centre, the merciless vortex of WHY. this is why I love this community, it's a touch stone. that's why i keep coming back. even though i'm not posting like i used to, i still read almost every morning, wondering how everyone is doing. and learning so much about joni each time. when i think of dave, i think of how much my life has changed since his passing. i'm grateful, once again, for the strength, love and care that has surrounded me all of my days, from so many of you i've met oh! and speaking of sorrow and loss. It is a sad day indeed, and Im thinking of Michael Paz in this one, the sax player of the Dave Matthews band has died. I can hear that crazy flute playing on #41 as I write ... wishing those surrounding him, peace and comfort. Rest well and easy, LeRoi Moore. http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2008/08/19/leroi-moore.html Mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Anita Tedder wrote: From: Anita Tedder Subject: and in the end only kindness matters To: joni@smoe.org Cc: margaret_elmtree@yahoo.ca Received: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:44 AM Hi Mags Like Lucy, I so clearly remember returning from my first Joni Fest in 2003 after such a wonderful time and receiving your email about Dave's death. It was so terribly sad. The following November I put together a 60 birthday gig/bash for Joni. You had sent JMDL the most eloquent and beautiful email entitled 'The People Who Love Joni'. I found it said so much for me and, I'm fairly sure, a great deal for others, too. It was not only about your loss of your dear brother, but also about the trials and tribulations and joys of sharing stuff here on this site, getting needs met - so much, really. Lucy read it out to the assembled people at Joni's 60th birthday gig. I know we've had a fair few discussions here recently about Joni's honesty in her writing and your piece, dear Mags, was very honest and true. I thought it so beautiful that I've always kept it. It sits in a folder along with all the Joni songs I try to play and so I still read your email'The People Who Love Joni' from time to time. It reminds me of you, my own losses and, most importantly, the power of Love. I am off to the Joni Fest here at Holycombe tomorrow and my folder with my Joni songs (and 'The People Who Love Joni') will be travelling with me. I hope you will feel carried with me and also held with love by all those at this year's Joni Fest. Thinking of you, Much love Anita _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 507 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:49:40 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: and in the end only kindness matters NJC and a note about LeRoi Moore Oh my God Mags I just got the news. WE are all devastated. Freda and the kids went to Houston over the weekend to see the band. My thoughts and prayers are also with you. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Aug 20, 2008, at 7:10 AM, Mags wrote: Anita, and all who are attending Fest this weekend, whilst i wish i was there too, i am happy that you will be together at this magical place. have a wonderful weekend and we will be nibbling on our nails, awaiting your reports. Brilliant are the gatherings of the 'people who love joni'. like a home coming. like coming home. funny thing that grief, it messes with my memory.a blessing really. there are things i do not want to bring back up to the surface. leaving all that behind is the best medicine ever. I barely remember that piece. I dont even know if I have it, I dont remember that Lucy read it. I'm sure she did, she's like that, our Queen Lulu. thank you for your wonderful message. I love that you carry that bit of my writing with you, in a special folder , sweet you. for me, the power of grief shared is in and of itself, the beginning of the process. every once in a while, i wonder if my heart could break further, but in the now, my blessed life now, i'm much more resilient to the things that used to bring me down. i believe that one never gets over loss, not completely. it's there, with us, always and in all ways. not in the heartwrenching devastating way, that first day of shock. i've never lost anyone so suddenly and i dont wish that on anyone. this grief i feel is changing shape all the time, fluid, always there, sometimes a mere ripple in the water, sometimes a raging storm , there are many lessons of survival that smack you in the face, like it or not. you getsucked into in the centre, the merciless vortex of WHY. this is why I love this community, it's a touch stone. that's why i keep coming back. even though i'm not posting like i used to, i still read almost every morning, wondering how everyone is doing. and learning so much about joni each time. when i think of dave, i think of how much my life has changed since his passing. i'm grateful, once again, for the strength, love and care that has surrounded me all of my days, from so many of you i've met oh! and speaking of sorrow and loss. It is a sad day indeed, and Im thinking of Michael Paz in this one, the sax player of the Dave Matthews band has died. I can hear that crazy flute playing on #41 as I write ... wishing those surrounding him, peace and comfort. Rest well and easy, LeRoi Moore. http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2008/08/19/leroi-moore.html Mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Anita Tedder wrote: From: Anita Tedder Subject: and in the end only kindness matters To: joni@smoe.org Cc: margaret_elmtree@yahoo.ca Received: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 4:44 AM Hi Mags Like Lucy, I so clearly remember returning from my first Joni Fest in 2003 after such a wonderful time and receiving your email about Dave's death. It was so terribly sad. The following November I put together a 60 birthday gig/bash for Joni. You had sent JMDL the most eloquent and beautiful email entitled 'The People Who Love Joni'. I found it said so much for me and, I'm fairly sure, a great deal for others, too. It was not only about your loss of your dear brother, but also about the trials and tribulations and joys of sharing stuff here on this site, getting needs met - so much, really. Lucy read it out to the assembled people at Joni's 60th birthday gig. I know we've had a fair few discussions here recently about Joni's honesty in her writing and your piece, dear Mags, was very honest and true. I thought it so beautiful that I've always kept it. It sits in a folder along with all the Joni songs I try to play and so I still read your email'The People Who Love Joni' from time to time. It reminds me of you, my own losses and, most importantly, the power of Love. I am off to the Joni Fest here at Holycombe tomorrow and my folder with my Joni songs (and 'The People Who Love Joni') will be travelling with me. I hope you will feel carried with me and also held with love by all those at this year's Joni Fest. Thinking of you, Much love Anita _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 507 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! I don't feel so old...it was one of MY PARENTS' favorite records. (And became one of mine as well...) Bob, festbound & rolling... NP: Stevie Ray Vaughan, "Scuttle Buttin'" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:21:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! I clearly remember the first time I ever saw and heard the album. I was baby-sitting for my aunt and uncle, and they had it. They had a great stereo system and I really got into it. (along with their "stash") That was my intro to S&G, pretty much. I remember looking at them at that time and thinking they were really freaky looking dudes. LOL! now they look pretty normal. Em - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Bob Muller wrote: From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! To: "Jerry Notaro" , "Joseph Palis" , "Joni List" Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 8:50 AM I don't feel so old...it was one of MY PARENTS' favorite records. (And became one of mine as well...) Bob, festbound & rolling... NP: Stevie Ray Vaughan, "Scuttle Buttin'" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: VP, njc An Associated Press writer wrote: At a town-hall meeting Tuesday night in Raleigh, N.C., Obama repeatedly said "he" when discussing the qualities he sought in a potential running mate, even as campaign officials cautioned reporters not to read too much into his choice of pronouns. "Let me tell you first what I won't do: I won't hand over my energy policy to my vice president and not know necessarily what he's doing," Obama told the audience. "My vice president ... will be a member of the executive branch. He won't be one of these fourth branches of government where he thinks he's above the law," he said, an apparent reference to Vice President Dick Cheney's handling of the office. Hi Ya'll, This is pretty revealing. I won't be surprised if Obama picks a grey-headed, older man. I've got nothing personal against grey headed older men, I'm married to one. It is just that political strategy over change will be the victor once again. I visited the Susan B. Anthony house this summer. Wow... the vibes in that place. I learned change came for women not from the head so much as from the hearts of those who yearned for the same kind of freedom from oppression that the majority of immigrants had when they took refuge in this forming country. The heart of Susan B. Anthony's momentum came from a place I could not have guessed... her Quaker faith that taught all people are created equally. And it came not only from her mother but very strongly from her father. I regret that our country is still stuck in the "he" mindset so deeply. Sometimes I find myself saying "he" when talking about "doctor"... even though I broke through that prejudiced social mindset myself to become a woman doctor. My heart and my head are at odds when this comes out of my mouth. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:04:27 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: and in the end only kindness matters NJC and a note about LeRoi Moore Sad news indeed! I'm glad now that I went to see DMB at Piedmont Park last year as that was the only time I ever got to see LeRoi perform. He was not with them this past time in Atlanta...but I remember Dave asking the crowd to send him good vibes and to wish for his speedy recovery. I wish I had discovered the magic of DMB sooner but I guess better late than never. Last year, when I was taking some jazz classes at GSU, I found out LeRoi studied music with a colleague of mine, a trombone player. I'm sure he is quite devastated. I Imagine though they're tearing it up in heaven just about now. Victor On Aug 20, 2008, at 8:49 AM, Michael Paz wrote: > Oh my God Mags I just got the news. WE are all devastated. Freda and > the kids went to Houston over the weekend to see the band. My thoughts > and prayers are also with you. > > Love > > Paz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:11:40 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: VP, njc But I'm all about change!!! (the) Victor On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: > It is just that political strategy over change will be the victor > once again. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:10:32 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: SHINE at Borders Store - Cheap Yesterday I was at our Border's book store. Found Shine on sale for $9.99 (Selected CDs for $9.99) Offer valid through 9/01/08. Store Locator: http://www.borders.com/online/store/LocatorView Laura ~~~~~~NJC Below~~~~~~ Win $Cash$ Card or FREE Candy Coupon from Mars. (Fun graphics!) Play once a day until you win. If you don't win the first prize of $1,000 you may keep winning lesser prizes more than once. You may use this _free code_ one time only: halloween A UPC you can use is: 040000121329 http://www.halloweenmillion.com/ Have fun! ** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:32:52 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: njc, Neil's comin' around again On Aug 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: > > Neil Young is pleased to announce pre-sale > ticketing for his Fall 2008 Tour. You can buy tickets to select Neil > Young shows before they go on sale to the public through > http://www.neilyoung.com/ and these webpages: > Neil's skipping the south again...lame! I think he should schedule a date at the new ampitheatre in Alpharetta, or better yet at the Fox. Victor NP: Dave Matthews Band "Kit Kat Jam" (live at the Gorge) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:35:12 +0100 From: "Anita Tedder" Subject: RE: and in the end only kindness matters NJC and a note about LeRoi Moore Mags [mailto:margaret_elmtree@yahoo.ca] wrote: "For me, the power of grief shared is in and of itself, the beginning of the process. every once in a while, i wonder if my heart could break further, but in the now, my blessed life now, i'm much more resilient to the things that used to bring me down." Mags, one of the last things you wrote in your astute piece about JMDL 'The People Who Love Joni' was the following: "Losing Dave. It is a grief that I've never experienced before and one that I don't wish on anyone. It is excruciatingly painful and yet I have been graced with so much support. I feel I'm beginning to move through it, even a little. All because of the people who love Joni." Although I know we can never make anything feel better for others ( we can only do that ourselves) nonetheless, it's good to feel that a few words may help sometimes. As you said today, the power of grief shared is the beginning of the healing process and it's good to hear of your resilience. I hope you, Paz and all others who have lost someone close recently know that you are in my thoughts today. I will light a candle these evening in remembrance, Love Anita _____ I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 510 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow, now film discussion! This sounds really interesting. Will we be able to read this somewhere some time? Of course you would do well at this, since you are such a film freak (Filipino Film Fhreak!) and, like so many Joni fans - and Joan herself, I dare say - have one of those minds that moves all over the place and connects the dots, kind of like a black crow diving down to pick up on every shiny thing. - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Joseph Palis wrote: My specialization falls under cultural geography with a focus on film, specifically Philippine cinema. It's about what makes 'national' cinema, national. I used interviews among film practitioners in the Philippines and the so-called diasporic filmmakers in NY and textual readings of specific films from Edison's 1-minute films in 1898 to the post-Marcos era. One interesting tidbit: did you know that the first cinematic depiction of Filipinos were portrayed by African Americans in 1899? Edison did a lot of these short films called actualities to drumbeat the 'victory' of Americans over Spain. So the films themselves were national projects. Funny how the word 'Filipino' did not even figure prominently then because native and ethnic Filipinos as we are known now, are called Indios by the Spaniards. Identity construction came later. So where does 'Filipino' originate. More specifically, where would we look at Filipino cinema considering that the first films were all products of colonialism. Also interesting was when the first 'talkie' happened in 1927 with "The jazz singer" (Al Jolson), it revolutionized sound cinema all over the world and voila! all 'talking' films were hailed as naitonal cinemas. Then what about the regions within a country that do not speak that language? Will Tamil filmmakers accept Bollywood as the national cinema of India? B Interesting stuff to discover these discrepant histories and what they contribute to dominant ideologies, no? B There is a lot that film textual readings can offer to view at history, identity and national formations. I know I am oversimplifying this, but the next time you seeB 'Once Were Warriors' (please please watcxh this film, everyone!) B or even 'Fargo' again, ask yourself what national/regional signifiers were highlighted and bannered and what were not given as much emphasis. And who do you think were the intended audience for these films..... B I got carried away again.... B Ciao for now, Joseph in North Carolina __________________________________________________________________ Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:08:18 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! CoT wrote: You drank five bottles??? Wow! **** Yeah, Joseph! Good golly! What'd you say? Hey honeys, you've got lots of cash, bring us out five bottles and we'll have some laughs? If you want me, I'll be in the bar? Maybe they were mini-bottles, Catherine. But still somehow, he'd be drunk on alcohol. Seventeen glasses, Rhine wine. (Would that equal five bottles? I really don't know. When it comes to math, I've got static in the attic. Ray's dad would know.) Milch of the madonna, clandestine. That's what you should have had. A room full of glasses. You're notches dissertation doll! Or sweet champagne, with the headphones up high. No. Wait. I KNOW! (Bright as a neon light) Singapore Slings, from your homeland! And there's gin in there, too. (Gin's what I'm drinking....) Have you ever been to the hotel where the drink was created? The Raffles Hotel. (Not the Empire.) http://www.drinkboy.com/cocktails/recipes/SingaporeSling.html Cheers! Love, Patti P., sipping tea and lemonade in Morning UConn Town, and literally watching the morning on parade because, just at this moment of the world... POMW is the UConn Marching Band, practicing for the new year, playing the Husky Fight Song. P.S. Joseph, my Lakota friend got the gold, too! I'll tell you about it later. I took Joni notes for youse guys. But for now, well..... I have got a thing that's unique and new To prove it I'll have last laugh on you Cuz instead of one friend who just successfully defended I've got two! ; ) You can see his photo beauty underneath your message on my wall. I will introduce you soon. _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:47:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: VP, njc So, VP = Very Poor because you are all about change not dollars? - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Victor Johnson wrote: > > But I'm all about change!!! > > (the) Victor > > > > On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: > > It is just that political strategy over change will > be the victor > > once again. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:04:21 -0400 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Re: Live Joni for August BOB!!! This concert is just fantastic!? Thanks a million for uploading this one.? Joni is just brilliant here, and the unadorned acoustic guitar playing is a real treat.? This was post Turbulent Indigo, and pre-VG8.? The version of facelift, IMO, is superior to the TTT version. I have fond memories of tuning into the live concert when I was visiting my ex in Manhattan, helping him get unpacked and settled with Joni on full blast.? And I recall being floored anew by her idiosyncratic picking style.? Truly a magnificent concert. Thanks so MUCH!!! Ken NP/song for sharon live - -----Original Message----- From: Bob Muller To: Joni people! Sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 7:00 pm Subject: Live Joni for August Here's another case of live Joni for y'all - this one's made the rounds but I'm willing to bet that lots of you haven't heard it/don't have it and that's a crying shame as it is one of the best Joni shows out there, in terms of audio quality + performance quality. https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FeFlkR0ZubHp2Wmc9PQ Reprise Music Show; Wells Fargo Theater *Autry Museum of Western Heritage* *Los Angeles, CA 01/26/95* ** *It was broadcast live so the quality is impeccable. It's just Joni and her acoustic guitar - she seems so happy she's just beaming, and the intimate space and jubilant crowd all add to the wow factor. The setlist:* 1. Refuge of the Roads 2. Sex Kills 3. Moon At the Window 4. Night Ride Home 5. Love's Cries (as she titled it then) 6. Yvette In English 7. Cherokee Louise 8. Sunny Sunday 9. Hejira 10. Just Like This Train 11. Happiness Is the Best Facelift 12. Song For Sharon Enjoy! (I know you will) And thanks to my friend who requested it - good call. Bob NP: Joni, "Yvette In English" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! all of these drinks contain the same amount of alcohol (14 grams), and therefore create the same level of intoxication, even if the percentage by volume is different. 12 oz. of Beer (5% alcohol by volume) 8.5 oz. Malt Liquor (7% alcohol by volume), 12 oz. = 1.5 Standard Drinks 5 oz. Table Wine (12% alcohol by volume) 3.5 oz. Fortified Wine, like Sherry or Port (17% alcohol by volume) 2.5 oz. Cordial, Liqueur or Aperitif (24% alcohol by volume) 1.5 oz. Brandy (40% alcohol by volume) 1.5 oz. 80 proof gin, vodka, whiskey etc. (40% alcohol by volume) - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Patti Parlette wrote: From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! To: josephpalis@yahoo.fr, joni@smoe.org Received: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:08 AM CoT wrote: You drank five bottles??? Wow! **** Yeah, Joseph! Good golly! What'd you say? Hey honeys, you've got lots of cash, bring us out five bottles and we'll have some laughs? If you want me, I'll be in the bar? Maybe they were mini-bottles, Catherine. But still somehow, he'd be drunk on alcohol. Seventeen glasses, Rhine wine. (Would that equal five bottles? I really don't know. When it comes to math, I've got static in the attic. Ray's dad would know.) Milch of the madonna, clandestine. That's what you should have had. A room full of glasses. You're notches dissertation doll! Or sweet champagne, with the headphones up high. No. Wait. I KNOW! (Bright as a neon light) Singapore Slings, from your homeland! And there's gin in there, too. (Gin's what I'm drinking....) Have you ever been to the hotel where the drink was created? The Raffles Hotel. (Not the Empire.) http://www.drinkboy.com/cocktails/recipes/SingaporeSling.html Cheers! Love, Patti P., sipping tea and lemonade in Morning UConn Town, and literally watching the morning on parade because, just at this moment of the world... POMW is the UConn Marching Band, practicing for the new year, playing the Husky Fight Song. P.S. Joseph, my Lakota friend got the gold, too! I'll tell you about it later. I took Joni notes for youse guys. But for now, well..... I have got a thing that's unique and new To prove it I'll have last laugh on you Cuz instead of one friend who just successfully defended I've got two! ; ) You can see his photo beauty underneath your message on my wall. I will introduce you soon. _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis! I sent that off, accidentally, before doing a proper edit job. Sorry 'bout that. Got this as a result of a google search: http://www.modern-wine-cellar.com/calories-in.html A drink is a drink is a drink. Even five of those mini-bottles (like the ones you get on a plane) is a lot in my book. Gone are the days when I could drink other people under the table. I think my limit these days is three! - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Catherine McKay wrote: From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! To: josephpalis@yahoo.fr, joni@smoe.org, "Patti Parlette" Received: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 3:16 PM all of these drinks contain the same amount of alcohol (14 grams), and therefore create the same level of intoxication, even if the percentage by volume is different. 12 oz. of Beer (5% alcohol by volume) 8.5 oz. Malt Liquor (7% alcohol by volume), 12 oz. = 1.5 Standard Drinks 5 oz. Table Wine (12% alcohol by volume) 3.5 oz. Fortified Wine, like Sherry or Port (17% alcohol by volume) 2.5 oz. Cordial, Liqueur or Aperitif (24% alcohol by volume) 1.5 oz. Brandy (40% alcohol by volume) 1.5 oz. 80 proof gin, vodka, whiskey etc. (40% alcohol by volume) __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: VP, njc Victor will be the change. Change will be the Victor. Long live Victor! To the Victor go the spoils. - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Laura Stanley wrote: From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: VP, njc To: "Victor Johnson" Cc: joni@smoe.org Received: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:47 AM So, VP = Very Poor because you are all about change not dollars? - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Victor Johnson wrote: > > But I'm all about change!!! > > (the) Victor > > > > On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: > > It is just that political strategy over change will > be the victor > > once again. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:25:50 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! Hey Muller Look you can have a whole 8.5 oz of Malt Liquor Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Aug 20, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: all of these drinks contain the same amount of alcohol (14 grams), and therefore create the same level of intoxication, even if the percentage by volume is different. 12 oz. of Beer (5% alcohol by volume) 8.5 oz. Malt Liquor (7% alcohol by volume), 12 oz. = 1.5 Standard Drinks 5 oz. Table Wine (12% alcohol by volume) 3.5 oz. Fortified Wine, like Sherry or Port (17% alcohol by volume) 2.5 oz. Cordial, Liqueur or Aperitif (24% alcohol by volume) 1.5 oz. Brandy (40% alcohol by volume) 1.5 oz. 80 proof gin, vodka, whiskey etc. (40% alcohol by volume) - --- On Wed, 8/20/08, Patti Parlette wrote: From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Shine on Joseph Palis tomorrow! To: josephpalis@yahoo.fr, joni@smoe.org Received: Wednesday, August 20, 2008, 11:08 AM CoT wrote: You drank five bottles??? Wow! **** Yeah, Joseph! Good golly! What'd you say? Hey honeys, you've got lots of cash, bring us out five bottles and we'll have some laughs? If you want me, I'll be in the bar? Maybe they were mini-bottles, Catherine. But still somehow, he'd be drunk on alcohol. Seventeen glasses, Rhine wine. (Would that equal five bottles? I really don't know. When it comes to math, I've got static in the attic. Ray's dad would know.) Milch of the madonna, clandestine. That's what you should have had. A room full of glasses. You're notches dissertation doll! Or sweet champagne, with the headphones up high. No. Wait. I KNOW! (Bright as a neon light) Singapore Slings, from your homeland! And there's gin in there, too. (Gin's what I'm drinking....) Have you ever been to the hotel where the drink was created? The Raffles Hotel. (Not the Empire.) http://www.drinkboy.com/cocktails/recipes/SingaporeSling.html Cheers! Love, Patti P., sipping tea and lemonade in Morning UConn Town, and literally watching the morning on parade because, just at this moment of the world... POMW is the UConn Marching Band, practicing for the new year, playing the Husky Fight Song. P.S. Joseph, my Lakota friend got the gold, too! I'll tell you about it later. I took Joni notes for youse guys. But for now, well..... I have got a thing that's unique and new To prove it I'll have last laugh on you Cuz instead of one friend who just successfully defended I've got two! ; ) You can see his photo beauty underneath your message on my wall. I will introduce you soon. _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:37:03 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: a rash of Joni bootlegs I was on ebay today and noticed several bootlegs of Joni Mitchell performances. So I reported them and ebay seems to be removing them fairly quickly which is cool. One person had the gall to be asking $22 dollars for a starting bid for "Joni Mitchell Indiana 1998." I imagine this is going on with pretty much any artist but I'm not going to spend the time to police ebay for them. I will however continue to report them if I happen to come across them. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:54:30 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: RE: njc, Shine on Joseph! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!!!! Congratulations dear Joseph!!! Love, Sherelle> From: loveuconn@hotmail.com> To: joni@smoe.org; sherellesmith@hotmail.com; josephpalis@yahoo.fr> Subject: njc, Shine on Joseph!> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:58:17 +0000> > > I've been sitting up waiting for my sugar to show.> > And no word.> > So, fading in a suburban room after a hard day's night, I decided to check his Facebook page.> > Et voila:> > "Joseph Palis> is ...FINALLY!!!! a gold this time."> > Woo hoo!!!!!> > GOOD ON YOU, JOSEPH!> > You're our thrill!> > Put on the night!> > xo,> > pp, getting ready for two more PhD People's Parties tomorrow> > P.S. for Richard: my Lakota friend who is defending tomorrow just became Facebook friends with Marilyn Nelson. Maybe she will be there tomorrow. Cool, n'est-ce pas?> > _________________________________________________________________> Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. 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