From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #144 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, July 24 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 144 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Death and Funeral music NJC ["Kate Bennett" ] RE: Death and Funeral music NJC ["Mike Pritchard" ] Death and funeral music (njc) [] Re: Death and Funeral music NJC [Bob Muller ] Jay Brannan NJC [David Marine ] RE: Death and Funeral music NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re: Death and Funeral music NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Death and Funeral music [Susan E McNamara ] Re: wardrobe malfunction NJC [David Eoll ] melissa manchester njc ["mack watson-bush" ] The Seeding of Summer Lawns [Patti Parlette ] Re: The Seeding of Summer Lawns [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: The Seeding of Summer Lawns [Jeffrey Zinkerman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:00:18 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Death and Funeral music NJC Not that long ago, when jamming with some friends we played "killing the blues' & I was thinking that would be a good choice (somebody said they saw me, swinging the world by the tail..." but now that I'm learning to play, & falling in love with, Neil Young's 'harvest moon', I think that would be another very different, but very inspiring 'exit' song. My mom, who chose cremation, never could decide whether she wanted us to scatter her ashes on land or the sea (so I won't tell you what we did because it is not what you are supposed to do). There was a park near her home overlooking the ocean, where we held so many of our family gatherings. was able to secure a spot where we had a bench installed in her name. Nice to have a place, either just thinking about it, or actually going there, to remember her. I like it much better than a hole in the ground. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:20:58 +0200 From: "Mike Pritchard" Subject: RE: Death and Funeral music NJC >>I was just walking in a nearby graveyard with my son, and we saw three sets of markers for old couples who died within months of each other.<< Spookiest thing I ever saw was in a graveyard in Lisbon, Portugal where there was a headstone for a sea captain who was killed in a battle off the Portuguese coast. Lower on the stone was a reference to his wife, drowned in a shipwreck on her way to his funeral. mike in bcn np  Courtney Pine  In a Mellow Tone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:40:24 -0700 From: Subject: Death and funeral music (njc) Sort of morbid but it is all part of life ;-) You can be cremated and still buried at cemetaries so there is a place to go visit. My father was cremated but he had a tiny cemetary plot. However, we kept part of the ashes to casually and surreptiously scatter at the San Carlos Borromeo (his name and the saint he was named after) Mission in Carmel, Ca. where he lived when he and my mother were first married and stationed at Fort Ord in Monterey during WWII. There is a gorgeous painting he painted of the mission during that time that I am now having restored. He really wanted his ashes scattered there but no way we can work that out "officially." So I promised him my mom and I would just make a visit and scatter some of his ashes in the garden there as we were walking through. We still need to do that. I also have a "plot" for my ashes but would like some scattered on my California Islands or Hawaii. It's hard to think of music. I wouldn't want anything grand. Simple is more beautiful for me. Maybe Joni's Song to a Seagull and that is it. Kakki, going to my beloved Hawaii next week! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Death and Funeral music NJC Yes, I have picked up on that - and it goes both ways, I love my JMDL family too. Bob NP: Naked Barbies, "River" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:03:27 -0700 From: David Marine Subject: Jay Brannan NJC Hey List, I just saw jay Brannan at the El Rey in Los Angeles. He will be playing the bay area tomorrow (Wednesday), and continue up the coast. I knew little of his music before, but the show was great, and included a fantastic cover of "All I Want". For those who might want to check him out, he has a lot of videos on youtube. Anyway, heads up to those on the west coast who might want to see him perform. Best, David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:57:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Death and Funeral music NJC The saddest thing I've seen, near my mother-in-law's grave, were two markers side by side, one with the names of two little children, who were born about the same time as my kids. Both of these kids died on the same day 15 or so years ago, so it must have been a car accident or something. The other marker is there waiting for their parents (birth dates are on, but not death dates.) There are always flowers or mementos on these graves and a little Christmas tree at Christmas. Now I'm getting all weepy just thinking about this, so thanks a lot whoever started this thread! - --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Mike Pritchard wrote: From: Mike Pritchard Subject: RE: Death and Funeral music NJC To: "list" Received: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 4:20 AM >>I was just walking in a nearby graveyard with my son, and we saw three sets of markers for old couples who died within months of each other.<< Spookiest thing I ever saw was in a graveyard in Lisbon, Portugal where there was a headstone for a sea captain who was killed in a battle off the Portuguese coast. Lower on the stone was a reference to his wife, drowned in a shipwreck on her way to his funeral. mike in bcn np Courtney Pine In a Mellow Tone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:27:55 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Death and Funeral music NJC I would say that most of us JMDLer's (based on what I've seen at Fests) are more likely to become VAMPIRES than Zombies anyway (cue Patti singing a Zombies oldie). And while we're talking about Zombie movies, "Shaun Of The Dead" is one of the most brilliant films you'll ever see. At our age getting eaten by anything sounds pretty good. Actually I think that in that dead state you're not really feeling much pain either way...reminds me of the late George Carlin's riff on funerals, the part where you have to walk past the open casket and look at the dead body. When he was passing by, the lady next to him says "doesn't he look good?", to which Carlin responds "GOOD?!?!?! He's DEAD!!" This made me LOL, and of course brought to mind the scene in Monty Python & the Holy Grail ("I'm not dead yet - I feel happy!") which was made into a full-blown musical number in Spamalot. Bob NP: Goya, "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (Coverville Show # 487) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:57:42 -0400 From: Susan E McNamara Subject: Re: Death and Funeral music I have to agree that Songs to Aging Children is Joni's best funeral song. Can't think of any other off the top of my head that fits so well. Great story, also, about why Joni refused to sing the song in the movie (they got a look-alike to stand in for her). It was basically about Joni not being willing to give up her rights to the song. She's an awesome business woman. In a former life I was the Director of Music at my church and I would lead a folk group and we occasionally played at funerals. My favorite to play was "Be Not Afraid." You can find it in most folk hymnals. I also played it at my grandfather's funeral and my grandmother came up to me afterward and said "That song took all the grief out of me." Wow, that was a powerful moment for me. Take care, Sue - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:09:35 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: Death and Funeral music Songs To Aging Children Come, mainly because it was played at the hippie funeral in the movie Alice's Restaurant. Anyone know who that was playing it? That was actually my introduction to the song, I didn't know it was a Joni Mitchell song when I first saw the movie. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:11:33 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: wardrobe malfunction NJC > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: wardrobe malfunction NJC > > million people took the trouble to find the address of CBS and spend their > own time filing an official complaint> > > Yeah, it was pretty silly, wasn't it? You have to realize that there are > groups like James Dobson's Focus On The Family and other religious > organizations that give this information to their followers I wish Dobson would Focus On His Own Damn Family. "A man is likely to mind his own business when it is worth minding. When it is not, he takes his mind off his own meaningless affairs by minding other people's business." -Eric Hoffer, philosopher and author There is a very large minority of people in the USA that are apparently not satisfied with their own "meaningless affairs" so they have nobly and selflessly taken it upon themselves to mind the rest of our business for us. Well, that's certainly a load off my mind. I'm sure Dobson and the other Ayatollahs on the Christian Right* ordered many of those half-million complaints. But, one of the guys that led the charge against Janet Jackson's right nipple was L. Brent Bozell III, through his group the Parent's Television Council. He has also founded the Media Research Center, and other organizations. All of these organizations have roughly the same mission: making sure that all media broadcasts everywhere conform to Brent Bozell's narrow range of acceptability. He's not part of the religious right per se, but he's closely allied with them on this issue: anti-free speech. He's an exceptionally well pedigreed conservative. His father, L. Brent Bozell, Jr., was William Buckley's brother-in-law, co-wrote "Conscience of a Conservative" with Barry Goldwater, and was an adviser and speech-writer for Joseph McCarthy. Yes, that Joseph McCarthy. So, I guess witch hunts are part of the family business. I don't like people who think its their job to tell me what I can and can't say and do. * When I say Christian Right, I'm talking about a political movement, not a religious one. I am not talking about evangelical Christians, per se. Most of my extended family are evangelicals, I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with a political movement who's aim is to force everyone to live by their patriarchal rules. I really think the religious piece is a big scam. As evidence, I present Pat Robertson who endorsed corrupt serial-adulterer Rudy Giuliani for president. Morally superior, my arse. If Robertson really believed all the religious stuff he spouts, wouldn't he have endorsed Mike Huckabee, who was a true blue evangelical? But Mike was too much of a populist (and a hick) for the GOP bigwigs to accept, so Pat, being a leader of a wing of the GOP, and not really a religious leader, endorsed the more acceptible (to the GOP bigwigs) Giuliani. That's the way I saw it, anyway. I think the mask was off right there. > From: "Rob Argento" > Subject: RE: wardrobe malfunction NJC > > It's an American thing. You simply have to excuse them. Uh, no, I really don't. Respectfully, David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:05:07 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: melissa manchester njc I'm so darn excited. Melissa Manchester is coming to Texas. Must be some cataclysmic event happening somewhere, a shift in the moon or stars or something. hehe. mack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:12:20 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: The Seeding of Summer Lawns Fiery gems for you Only for you my JMDL Lovies and a MUST for all Joni "Completists" (Hi Kenny B!) ROIO (recordings of indeterminate origin)/ HOSL (and other) demos: http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html Grab them soon because this only stays up for a short time (less than a week left). Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 13:30:49 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: The Seeding of Summer Lawns "Fiery gems for you Only for you" Speaking of them guys, I'm surprised that you haven't posted about the release of "CSNY - Deja Vu Live" that came out yesterday: http://tinyurl.com/66fukt And speaking of that Seeding disc, that was actually assembled by ex-JMDL'er Don Rowe who got the original Hissing Demos around the same time the rest of us did and re-mastered it. I miss Don - does anyone still keep in touch with him? Bob NP: Red Hot Chilis, "This Is The Place" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Thanks so Much, Patti ! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Patti Parlette Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:12 PM To: joni@smoe.org; taracienna@hotmail.com; jle1129@hotmail.com Subject: SPAM:The Seeding of Summer Lawns Fiery gems for you Only for you my JMDL Lovies and a MUST for all Joni "Completists" (Hi Kenny B!) ROIO (recordings of indeterminate origin)/ HOSL (and other) demos: http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html Grab them soon because this only stays up for a short time (less than a week left). Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:21:34 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: The Seeding of Summer Lawns now CSNY BM wrote: > > "Fiery gems for you > Only for you" > > Speaking of them guys, I'm surprised that you haven't posted about the release of "CSNY - Deja Vu Live" that came out yesterday: > http://tinyurl.com/66fukt > LOL! It's in my draft box. Sorry to have left you at a South Carolina junction! I'll go dig it out. Some other good news in there, too. Yeah, I was surprised when I scanned the latest digest in morning UConn town that no one mentioned it. It was all death and death and death and death. Talk about comin' down in smoke and ash.... a veritable funeral pyre! ; ) I have the CD of the actual show I attended on 8/15/06. (Merci encore une fois, et infiniment, Angel from Topsfield, Mass!) I can almost hear my own whoops in the background. Best show EVER (excepting all Joni one's, of course.) The end was indescribable: Let's Impeach the President (up on your feet and pump those fists! Woooooooo hoooooo!), FWIW, Chicago, Ohio, ending with a climatic orgasmic Keep on Rocking in the Free World with Neil on his back on the floor breaking all his guitar strings. Loose wires were lashing out at him. Oh my GOD!!! And the encore was some song called Woodstock that Graham yelled out "is for all of you old hippies out there!" and David yelled: "and you young ones, too." Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It all comes down to Joni. And you just have to laugh cuz it's all so crazy when some people are grumbling on the way out about all the politics. Uh.....HELLO! It's Crosby, Stills, Nash and YOUNG, people! Also on that CD...LOL...this is funny. You know it's live when you hear some guy yell out: "Sit down in front" and some chick yells back: "Shut up, you asshole!" I'm running wayyyy behind the times w/ a malfunctioning ("the dream's malfunction") computer chez moi, plus I'm lost in house and garden, remodeling my bathroom (if only it could be as simple as climbing ivy for the bath -- faucets, light fixtures, toilet, tub, window, sinktop, vanity, flooring, paint, doors, knobs -- some of the crazy you get from too much choice!), and simultaneously getting ready for vacation. I'm in Flip City these days! (Yeah, yeah, I know. So what else is new?) So those demos are not a thing that is unique and new? Oh, well. They will be to some. Glad you like them, Jeff Z.! xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_video_072008 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:31:26 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Maria Muldaur's "Yes, We Can" and CSNY "Where have all the songbirds gone?" They're back!!!!!!! From mariamuldaur.com: "News: We are excited to announce the forthcoming new album released on Telarc! YES WE CAN! / MARIA MULDAUR Maria Muldaur's roots are in the folk revival of the early '60s, a time when figures like Pete Seeger and Bob Dylan were making bold statements about the civil rights movement, Vietnam, and other burning issues of the day. More than four decades later, in the face of political and social issues in which the stakes are equally high, Muldaur assembles a group of legendary female performers to lend their voices in a critical examination of where we are as a nation and where we're going. Songs include "Yes, We Can," "John Brown" and "Pray for the U.S.A." The guest list includes Bonnie Raitt, Joan Baez, Holly Near, Phoebe Snow, Odetta and Jane Fonda. (Amanda Sweet) And a benefit concert in Sacramento: http://www.swell-productions.com/ " and then from Amazon: "CSNY provided much of the soundtrack for the antiwar movement of the Vietnam era, and four decades later, they re doing it again. (Variety) In 2006, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young reunited for the Freedom Of Speech Tour. In 2008, they premiere CSNY/Dij` Vu, a feature-length documentary based on that controversial tour. But the only place to hear in their entirety the impassioned performances in the film is on CSNY/Dij` Vu Live. A mix of CSNY classics and more recent antiwar material from Neil Young, CSNY/Dij` Vu Live marks the return to the socio-political stage of David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham Nash and Neil Young in a musical dij` vu." Bring it ON! I love the covers on both of these albums, too. A dove on one, the peace symbol on the other amid those beloved faces. My cup of tea for the Tillerman! xo, pp, racing away _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger2_072008 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:34:44 +0000 From: s.r.shanahan@att.net Subject: Candi Staton NJC I was a big fan of Candi Staton too. We used to go to the clubs in Philly and dance like crazy when she performed. She was beautiful and a great singer though her song "I'm a Victim" kind of turned people off because no one wanted to think of themselves as one in those days. I always thought her mom was Dakota who I saw in New York once at Citi Center. She was a genius! but definitely much older than Candi. Thanks for reminding me of Candi. She definitely had did some great work. Steve in SF ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:26:37 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: How many idiots does it take...(njc) to delay a major league baseball game? Only one! I was watching the Red Sox/Mariners game (tied 3-3 in the bottom of the 9th) and yet again, some jack ass ran on to the field. I wonder who will pay his bail tonight...or if he spends the night in jail. I also wonder how much alcohol factored in and how much was just pure stupidity. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:38:15 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Death and Funeral music, njc "When the Saints Come Marchin' In" by anyone. "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" as Mavis Staples does it. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #144 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------