From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #141 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, July 21 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 141 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Leonard Cohen in Portugal ["Samuel Jeronimo" ] RE: All the way from Galway ["Watts, Lesli" ] Re: Article in today's Irish Times ["Randy Remote" ] SV: Leonard Cohen in Portugal ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: Joni song for special occasions [Catherine McKay ] re: Native Americans/Indians/DEAP's NJC [David Eoll ] Leonard Cohen (njc) ["Barbara Stewart" Subject: Leonard Cohen in Portugal Last night I went to see Cohen live and it was great. He runs a lot for an old man. Here's the set list: Dance Me To The End Of Love The Future Ain't No Cure Bird On The Wire Everybody Knows In My Secret Life Who By Fire Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye Anthem *Intermission* Tower Of Song Suzanne Gypsy's Wife Boogie Street Hallelujah Democracy I'm Your Man Take This Waltz *Encore 1* So Long, Marianne First We Take Manhattan Sisters Of Mercy If It Be Your Will (The Webb Sisters) Closing Time *Encore 2* I Tried To Leave You Wither You Goest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:52:09 -0700 From: "Watts, Lesli" Subject: RE: All the way from Galway ________________________________ >gracious to me and spent alot of time telling me about why Joni didn't >come as he is ill and prefers to keep her privacy which I respect as he was ill or she was ill? lesli ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:57:25 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Article in today's Irish Times Great article! - ----- From: "Deb Messling" > Nice article about the Green Flags show, with a brief interview. > http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/magazine/2008/0719/1216364364414.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:18:47 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Leonard Cohen in Portugal And on Saturday 13, he played in Sweden, in Helsingborg, a town close to where I live. Unfortunately I couldn't be there but 20 years ago he performed in the same place and I was there. The stage was set in a park, open air, everybody was sitting on the grass and it was a hot summer night. The set list was extensive and Cohen was very chatty and apparently enjoying himself. In fact, he seemed unwilling to end the show so finally people left without waiting for the grand finale as it was getting very, very late. It was great, though, a memorable evening/night/early morning, and you got your money's worth, to say the least. Glad to hear he's still going strong! Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Samuel Jeronimo Skickat: den 20 juli 2008 16:52 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Leonard Cohen in Portugal Last night I went to see Cohen live and it was great. He runs a lot for an old man. Here's the set list: Dance Me To The End Of Love The Future Ain't No Cure Bird On The Wire Everybody Knows In My Secret Life Who By Fire Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye Anthem *Intermission* Tower Of Song Suzanne Gypsy's Wife Boogie Street Hallelujah Democracy I'm Your Man Take This Waltz *Encore 1* So Long, Marianne First We Take Manhattan Sisters Of Mercy If It Be Your Will (The Webb Sisters) Closing Time *Encore 2* I Tried To Leave You Wither You Goest ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni song for special occasions I think i'd like "Hejira" for my funeral. - --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Cassy wrote: I already have "Bookends" - Simon & Garfunkle reserved for my funeral but I'd also like to have Judgment of the Moon and Stars as another selection. The Joni tune for my son to hear and remember how I'd want him to live the rest of his life when I'm gone. One of my favorite Joni tunes is "Down to You", I play it a lot and never tire of it and I'd love to think of a place in my life to use it to punctuate what's happening. Warmly, Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:43:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni song for special occasions And it's not a Joni song, but my preference for a funeral song is for Laura Nyro's "And When I Die"...there'll be - one child born in this world, to carry on, to carry on. Bob NP: Bob Dylan, "Highlands" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:51:49 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: re: Native Americans/Indians/DEAP's NJC I managed to find one of the books I read that informed me about this: Lies Across America, by James Loewen. But, I know I've heard it elsewhere. Prof. Loewen has a few specific examples of the phenomenon of derogatory names being used to name certain Native American tribes. "Navajo" is the Tewa Pueblo word for "thieves". The Navajo refer to themselves as Dine, which means "the people". Catherine is right about that. Many Native American tribes refer to themselves using words in their own language that mean the people. Makes perfect sense, no? I had heard that before, too. I'm sure that nomenclature is not confined to Native Americans. I'm sure there are many people around the world who call themselves "the people". "Apache" is the Zuni word for "enemy". Apaches also refer to themselves as Dine, "the people", since they share the language of the Navajo. "Anasazi" is the Navajo word for "enemy". Natives in the far north of North America refer to themselves as Inuit, "the people". It was their neighbors, the Cree who called them Eskimos, "raw flesh eaters". Sioux is a shortened French version of Nadouwesioux, "enemies" which is what the Chippewas called them. The Sioux called themselves Lakota, which means ...(wait for it)... "the people". The Chippewas called themselves Anishinabes, "people of creation". "Mohawk" is the Algonquin word for "cannibal". According to Prof. Loewen, "papago" or "bean eater" is actually the Pima name for the Papago tribe. The Papago refer to themselves as Tohono O'otam, "desert people". The origin of the name "Pima" is perhaps the most humorous of all. In the language of the Pima, the word "pima" means "I don't know". I can just picture an initial encounter between the Pima and the Spaniards. The Spaniards are asking the Pima who they are, and the Pima are basically saying, "Dude, I have no idea what you're saying." And the name stuck. Cheers, David PS What is DEAP? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:10:08 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: Leonard Cohen (njc) Good news! I've just been told from a VERY reliable source that Leonard Cohen will be doing a NYC gig in the spring. (And a US tour.) Keep your eyes open for date announcements. B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #141 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------