From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #123 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, July 4 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 123 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- SV: JMDL Digest V2008 #122 ["Henning Olsen" ] Re: another town another show (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? , NJC [Monika Bogdanowicz ] re: Gandalf Publishing ["Jerry Notaro" ] Fwd: Google Must Divulge YouTube Log (general news alert) ["Barbara Stew] Re: sjc? jmdl slowdown ["Samuel Jeronimo" ] Re: another town another show (njc) ["gene" ] Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? , NJC [Catherine McKay Subject: SV: JMDL Digest V2008 #122 THE CIRCLE GAME-HOLY GROUND. Hi Patti! Thank you for the words. You are right. The story made an impression on me and I combined it with a little promotion. You Joni fans are the only people who want to buy something that is not a hit, so this little group is my chance and you deserve to know that the CD exist. Henning - -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sendt: 3. juli 2008 09:00 Til: joni-digest@smoe.org Emne: JMDL Digest V2008 #122 JMDL Digest Thursday, July 3 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 122 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Chelsea Morning! [Patti Parlette ] Re: Chelsea Morning! [Victor Johnson ] Re: njc, Webcam on Beach Boy Bob [Bob Muller ] njc, Webcam on Beach Boy Bob [Patti Parlette ] My happiest Joni moment ever ["Kate Bennett" ] njc, the genius to save this place [Patti Parlette ] Gandalf Publishing ["Les Irvin" ] Re: njc, the genius to save this place ["Mark Angelo" ] Re: Gandalf Publishing [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? , NJC [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Gandalf Publishing [Scott Price ] RE: sjc? jmdl slowdown [Patti Parlette ] another town another show (njc) [Victor Johnson ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:32:47 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Chelsea Morning! Chelsea Morning, Victor and Jody and Scott (they went to Florida) and every other Jonibody: I am writing on the mudslide slim chance that you three are all together in some breakfast Barangrill just at this moment of the world, and that Victor has his laptop perched on the table next to the milk and toast and honey and a bowl of oranges, too, to say: GROUP HUG! Whenever two or more of you are gathered in Her Name, there is LOVE. (I know. I'm a little bit corny.) Now please pass me the tea. And the lemonade. Yes. You have to sip that particular mixture as you watch the morning on parade in Morning Morgantown, or *any* town you name. Morning's just the same in Morning Joni Town! Love & Peace & Safe Travels (or, as they say in France, where they kiss on Main Street: Bon Voyage!), Patti P. in Mansfield Morning Town, really late for UConn Morning Town P.S. And you three amigos, don't you be staring any holes into those scrambled eggs now! (Or the good omelets, either. Or the muffins and berries.) Help me! I'm JMOCDing and I can't stop! How do you stop? Okay, okay. I'm going to press "send". Bye bye, babies! Put on the day! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mob ile_Zune_V3 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:15:12 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Chelsea Morning! On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Patti Parlette wrote: > > Chelsea Morning, Victor and Jody and Scott (they went to Florida) > and every other Jonibody: > > I am writing on the mudslide slim chance that you three are all > together in some breakfast Barangrill just at this moment of the > world, and that Victor has his laptop perched on the table next to > the milk and toast and honey and a bowl of oranges, too, to say: > > GROUP HUG! Thanks Patti! We just finished breakfast and Jody and Scott left for the airport. I decided to go to Mobile (since I already have tickets for Birmingham) and will be leaving this fine town shortly. > P.S. And you three amigos, don't you be staring any holes into > those scrambled eggs now! (Or the good omelets, either. Or the > muffins and berries.) > Breakfast was good! We went to a local joint and had the standard 2 eggs, bacon, toast and grits...mmmm yummy!!! Victor, fixing to be traveling in some vehicle and sitting in some cafe - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, Webcam on Beach Boy Bob Hi All...just taking a day & catching up a bit...too much fun and sun to spend much time on the machine. I was aware of that webcam, PP - Val's uncle Rodney actually arranged a time for him to go there and wave to his co-workers back in Madison, WI. Having a ball, hope y'all are too. I will grind out Volume 102 when I return. Bob NP: The Dishwasher - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:25:29 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Webcam on Beach Boy Bob BBB wrote: "I was aware of that webcam, PP - Val's uncle Rodney actually arranged a time for him to go there and wave to his co-workers back in Madison, WI." Pssssst. Hint, hint! We want all your sea dreams to come to us. "Having a ball, hope y'all are too. I will grind out Volume 102 when I return." I hope you know the grind is not so ungrateful. Unlike poor Kakki's. Kakki, dear, While you still have the time You could get away and find A better life you know the grind is so ungrateful Racing cars whisky bars WE care who you really are Leave someone a letter You can come now Pack your suspenders, (and you Catholic schoolgirl beret) I'll come meet your plane And we'll go looking for Peridots and periwinkle Blue medallions Here on Mullerigan's Isle! Fresh salmon frying, and the tide rolllllllllllllling in....children laughing out to sea....mmmm....now there's a sea dream some of us have. Jealous lovin' will make you crazy, PP NPIMH: Song to a Seagull, accompanied by the sound that the (f)rigging A/C makes in the workplace _________________________________________________________________ Watch Cause Effect, a show about real people making a real difference. Learn more. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:57:48 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: My happiest Joni moment ever beautiful beyond words, patti thanks for telling this story again, kate >A year later I still get goosebumps and tears of joy. It was the ultimate sign of love and respect for him to pick this song. And to have Joni's voice accompanying the happiest four minutes of my life was just....well, I'm sure you understand. And the perfect words....I really felt like we had come full circle. I bore him, and raised him, and now my work is complete. He married a lovely young woman, from a really nice family. Amen.< - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:03:36 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, the genius to save this place You see those lovely hillsThey won't be there for longThey're gonna tear 'em downAnd sell them to CaliforniaHere come the toxic spillsMiners poking all aroundWhen this place looks like a moonscapeDon't say I didn't warn ya...Money, money, money...Money makes the trees come downIt makes mountains into molehillsBig money kicks the wide wide world around. Yeah, don't say Joni didn't warn us, or egg us on to shake our fists. Here's a petition to oppose the destructive practice of mountaintop removal mining: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/667251508?z00m=15607992Spirit of the water Give us all the courage and the graceTo make genius of this tragedy unfoldingThe genius to save this place. xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Enter the Zune-A-Day Giveaway for your chance to win  day after day after day http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mob i le_Zune_V1 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:53:41 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: washington dc area? njc Any JMDLer's in the Washington DC area? Please contact me off list if interested in a small project. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:09:28 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Gandalf Publishing Joniphiles - Astute observers of some of Joni's early, unrecorded songs will note the publishing credit goes to Gandalf Publishing. I've often wondered about that name, certainly I'm not alone. In the first Library article (of what I hope is many) penned by the man himself exclusively for the website, Chuck explains where the name came from: http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1892 Enjoy, Les - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:52:41 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: njc, the genius to save this place Indeed Patti, I remember someone saying "money is the root of all evil" a long time ago. Joni elaborates quite eloquently on that concept and the rat race and the seemingly genetic disposition of the humanity to be unable to envision long-term consequences to their actions, particularly in our own "land of snap decisions, land of short attention spans". What would we do (JMDL community and those such as myself who have spent their teenage and adult lifetimes listening to her) without visionaries such as Joni? I don't know. A genuine woman of Heart and Mind who is not intimidated by BigOil, BigBusiness, BigGovernment (aren't they the same thing?) and vociferates the deception of these entities in the name of profit (money), and likewise unabashedly looks into the human psyche itself (Bad Dreams) "You cannot be trusted Do you even know you're lying It's dangerous to kid yourself... You have no sense of consequence Oh my head is in my hands" and reflect that all humans are capable of self-deception as a short-term coping and adaptive mechanism, which has far reaching repercussions the symptoms of which are all around us and moving ever more swiftly. Anxiousness and Anger and the subsequent need to place the blame anywhere but on ourselves is increasingly palpable. "We get hurt, and we just panic, and we strike out, out of fear." "You take with such entitlement You give bad attitude You have no grace No empathy No gratitude" "THEY need to pump more oil" to stabilize prices because of our oil addiction problem is a common reaction I've noticed. Oh really, "they" do? Don't sovereign nations have a say as to how they will allocate their own resources? "And who will come to save the day? Mighty Mouse? Superman? John McCain? Hillary Clinton? (alas, not in 2008 apparently anyways). Barack Obama? (Insert Politician of Choice who appeals to the current emotions of Americans) I'll vote for Mr. Obama simply to make a statement because my vote was discounted twice in the past two presidential elections. But I am under no illusions nor have any reason to believe he will suddenly "save the day" for Americans with hope and change. Obama is too skilled and crafted a politician to get where he is without an existing agenda with TPTB - the status quo. Those that tell the closest version of the truth to the public - such as Dennis Kucinich - who at least had the integrity not to participate in this subtle whoring we've witnessed - and tell the least "pretty lies" make for unlikely politicians to lead a nation who does not want to really hear the truth, that prefers to "go deaf, dumb, and blind". History is a fairly accurate indicator. And so it goes ... - - -- - - -Mark in Florida On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: > You see those lovely hillsThey won't be there for longThey're gonna tear > 'em > downAnd sell them to CaliforniaHere come the toxic spillsMiners poking all > aroundWhen this place looks like a moonscapeDon't say I didn't warn > ya...Money, money, money...Money makes the trees come downIt makes > mountains > into molehillsBig money kicks the wide wide world around. > > Yeah, don't say Joni didn't warn us, or egg us on to shake our fists. - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:14:15 -0700 From: "Richard Goldman" Subject: NJC: Martha Wainwright opening for Leonard Cohen in Bruges (July10) & Amsterdam (July12) Next week, in Bruge, and in Amsterdam, July 10 & 12, two of Leonard's shows in Europe, Martha is opening ... You lucky lucky people ..! http://www.marthawainwright.com/live.jsp] - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:39:37 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: I'm going Mobile...(njc) Whew...finally sitting in some cafe in Mobile after driving most of the day from Jacksonville. There's a girl singing with a guitar singing Bad Company "Feel Like Makin' Love"....good voice. The Saenger theatre is across the street. Looks like an old ornate theater where every seat is a good seat. I'm looking forward to the show tonight but looking even more forward to hitting the beach tomorrow before heading up to Birmingham. It still seems a bit surreal as I fully intended to drive home to Atlanta today but figured I was on this journey and might as well make a complete circle instead of a zigzag. This has been an on the road report for jmdl.com Victor - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:21:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Gandalf Publishing I think it would be interesting if Chuck and Joan could have a reunion of sorts. It would either be a cool trip down memory lane, or else an episode of Jerry Springer. I'm not sure which. - - --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Les Irvin wrote: From: Les Irvin Subject: Gandalf Publishing To: joni@smoe.org Received: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:09 PM Joniphiles - Astute observers of some of Joni's early, unrecorded songs will note the publishing credit goes to Gandalf Publishing. I've often wondered about that name, certainly I'm not alone. In the first Library article (of what I hope is many) penned by the man himself exclusively for the website, Chuck explains where the name came from: http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1892 Enjoy, Les - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:24:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? , NJC Hmmm... Pretentious? Gotta find that in dictionary. Rian NP. Radiohead - Pyramid Song - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:03:45 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: THE CIRCLE GAME-HOLY GROUND Goddag (hello), Henning! You wrote: Pattis Joni Moment was nearly a wake up call: We have just recorded "THE CIRCLE GAME" and the letter made me feel that I am walking on holy ground. My only excuse is that it was made out of love to the song and the joy of playing Joni's music. Maybe others can enjoy that this new version is another tribute. For Joni fans we have made 11 songs that Joni didn't release herself on the same album "TREASURES OF JONI MITCHELL". Henning www.bigyellowtaxi.dk **** Wow! Quel synchronicity! I listened to some clips and they are beautiful. Tak (thank you) on behalf of all Joni- lovers. And congratulations (I looked that up in the Danish on-line dictionary and it says there is no translation) to you and Christina on such love and joy-inspired "work". I'm going to open up my credit card eyes and go to CDBaby as soon as possible. (Henning: I won't tell anyone that you paid me 500 Euros to make up that fake story about the magical Joni moment wedding Circle Game sweet sucker dance with my son just to promote your new CD. That will be our little secret!) (Just kidding, of course.) And for all of you who wrote to say that you enjoyed the story, thank you. Especially the person who had tears in his/her eyes at work! (LOL....your secret is safe with me.) But really, I am the one who must say thank YOU. Where else could I share this story? Who else would "get it"? I thank my lucky stars (and the clouds to read) for this HOLY GROUND: the JMDL community and Les & Company and, of course: MISS JONI MITCHELL! Love & Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mob ile_Zune_V3 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:50:43 -0700 From: Scott Price Subject: Re: Gandalf Publishing At 10:09 AM 7/2/2008, Les Irvin wrote: > Gandalf Publishing. Chuck explains where the name came from: >http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1892 Wow, fantastic stuff! The piece is vivid, historic, insightful, and very well crafted. The last bit, in particular, about tenement castles and lower case letters is brilliant. Let us indeed hope there are many more of these essays to come. Scott - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 03:49:11 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: sjc? jmdl slowdown Obrigado (thank you in Portuguese), Samuel! I always loved Dennis Wilson. He was my favorite Beach Boy at the age of 14. My mom brought me and 10 friends to see them in 1968 (circa just before the release of STAS). Before the concert, we were sitting in a park in Hartford, CT, when one of the roadies came up to talk to us teeny-boppers. He promised to give us Denny's drumsticks after the show at the back door, and he delivered. I wish I could say I still had the drumstick. Lost it somewhere after all these years. The first youtube you posted has been removed (merde alors!) but the second one is great. I always wished I had a river! Now, to repay your kindness, here's another BB beauty. Brian Wilson said it is his favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1rxMBA4w18 "Oh, Caroline You break my heart..." "But there was one song he played I could really feel...." And don't get me going on "God Only Knows". You will find that one there, too. Long live the Sixties! (LOL, I can safely say that while the Cover Cat's away.) Amor e paz, Patti P. ****** Check out the new release by Dennis Wilson  well is not really (all) new, but check it anyway ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlHLZHd9EiM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4yFWBbG_ZA Samuel _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mob ile_Zune_V3 - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:51:46 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: another town another show (njc) I think I've successfully crossed over into the world that is Tom Waits. Tonight was even better than last night. I was in the balcony this time, further back, but the sound was excellent. The show was in a very ornate theater, and had a very sublime quality. I definitely felt like I transcended into some kind of netherworld, traveling to different towns that are different facets of the same reality...kind of like a musical traveling circus. Almost like living a dream...You're innocent when you dream, one of the songs Tom played on the piano tonight. And according to Tom Waits, if you happen to be in Oklahoma, it is against the law to get a fish drunk (it used to be he said, you could get drunk with your fish but not anymore) and it is also against the law to give a cigarette to a monkey. Not as many jokes/asides as last night but that's a good thing...it was more about the music tonight. And it also occurred to me yet again what a small world it is. The person sitting to my right was from Atlanta and also plays in a band, frequents some of the same venues, etc... and a person sitting to my left was also from Atlanta and we actually have a mutual friend. I even got to sing a couple of songs at the Brewery before the show. Melissa, the girl performing, was gracious enough to invite me to come up and sing a couple...so I did an original, Ahdayneekay and Ol' 55 for all the Tom Waits fans that were hanging out there. Melissa was very cool...I asked her if she knew any Joni Mitchell and she said not yet but that she'd love to learn something and really likes her music. She had a great voice and would do great service to Joni songs I do believe. wow........what an enchanted evening! Victor - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #122 ***************************** - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:40:56 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: another town another show (njc) Hey Victor did you see my boss Ben Jaffe?? He was there. I think you have met him before. Tuba player. Big afro. Clint and I are planning on going from Alicante to Barcelona Spain to catch his show there as we have an off day the night he is there. I am pumped. I have never seen him live. Speaking of another town another show we had a great time in Reno tomight at our show and headed for SF hoping to hook up with Randy, Lori, Darice, Julius, Diamond Dave, and whoever else wants to party with us. I found out Gov't Mule was in L.A. area while we were there so I called Warren Haynes and asked if we could come and of course he was very nice to say yes so Kevin and Mark Braud (our new trumpet player) went to the show in Ventura at the Magestic and Mark sat in with the band on Mule and kicked ass. Now that I have typed this I am thinking I might have already told you this. Best Paz P.S. Speaking of another town HEY SHERELLE we are coming back to Maryland in Sept for a one off in the middle of our tour with the Blind Boys. We will be in Easton which is a little ways but I can get you guys a hotel room so you can spend the night and not have to leave so early this time. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Jul 2, 2008, at 9:51 PM, Victor Johnson wrote: I think I've successfully crossed over into the world that is Tom Waits. Tonight was even better than last night. I was in the balcony this time, further back, but the sound was excellent. The show was in a very ornate theater, and had a very sublime quality. I definitely felt like I transcended into some kind of netherworld, traveling to different towns that are different facets of the same reality...kind of like a musical traveling circus. Almost like living a dream...You're innocent when you dream, one of the songs Tom played on the piano tonight. And according to Tom Waits, if you happen to be in Oklahoma, it is against the law to get a fish drunk (it used to be he said, you could get drunk with your fish but not anymore) and it is also against the law to give a cigarette to a monkey. Not as many jokes/asides as last night but that's a good thing...it was more about the music tonight. And it also occurred to me yet again what a small world it is. The person sitting to my right was from Atlanta and also plays in a band, frequents some of the same venues, etc... and a person sitting to my left was also from Atlanta and we actually have a mutual friend. I even got to sing a couple of songs at the Brewery before the show. Melissa, the girl performing, was gracious enough to invite me to come up and sing a couple...so I did an original, Ahdayneekay and Ol' 55 for all the Tom Waits fans that were hanging out there. Melissa was very cool...I asked her if she knew any Joni Mitchell and she said not yet but that she'd love to learn something and really likes her music. She had a great voice and would do great service to Joni songs I do believe. wow........what an enchanted evening! Victor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 04:39:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Gandalf Publishing Thanks! I have to add, it shows some taste that Joni and Chuck picked "Gandalf" for their publishing name. He is, afterall, the best character from LOTR in my opinion. He's bad ass (can take command of a situation I mean) but a good guy at heart. - -Monika - --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Les Irvin wrote: Joniphiles - Astute observers of some of Joni's early, unrecorded songs will note the publishing credit goes to Gandalf Publishing. I've often wondered about that name, certainly I'm not alone. In the first Library article (of what I hope is many) penned by the man himself exclusively for the website, Chuck explains where the name came from: http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1892 Enjoy, Les ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 04:49:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? , NJC Ah, no problem. Pretentious adjective 1. full of pretense or pretension. 2. characterized by assumption of dignity or importance. 3. making an exaggerated outward show; ostentatious And pretension equals A specious allegation; a pretext. A claim to something, such as a privilege or right. See synonyms at claim. The advancing of a claim. vs. ambitious adj 1. Full of, characterized by, or motivated by ambition. 2. Greatly desirous; eager: "I am not ambitious of ridicule" Edmund Burke. 3. Requiring or showing much effort; challenging: I rule ambitious. To say someone or something is pretentious is associated with negative feelings. The word "pretentious" has negative connotations. Nobody ever calls anything pretentious as a compliment. It is not meant that way. - -Monika - --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Rian Afriadi wrote: Hmmm... Pretentious? Gotta find that in dictionary. Rian NP. Radiohead - Pyramid Song ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:40:08 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: another town another show (njc) I didn't see Ben but then there were a lot of people there. I think you will be blown away in Barcelona! That's awesome that you're going to see him there. You had not told your story about Gov't Mule though you had said you were going to post something about it. I'm heading down to Dauphin Island this morning to see the ocean and chill on the beach before heading up to Birmingham. Victor NP: Stevie Wonder "I Can't Let My Heaven Walk Away" On Jul 3, 2008, at 2:40 AM, Michael Paz wrote: > Hey Victor did you see my boss Ben Jaffe?? He was there. I think you > have met him before. Tuba player. Big afro. Clint and I are planning > on going from Alicante to Barcelona Spain to catch his show there as > we have an off day the night he is there. I am pumped. I have never > seen him live. Speaking of another town another show we had a great > time in Reno tomight at our show and headed for SF hoping to hook up > with Randy, Lori, Darice, Julius, Diamond Dave, and whoever else wants > to party with us. > I found out Gov't Mule was in L.A. area while we were there so I > called Warren Haynes and asked if we could come and of course he was > very nice to say yes so Kevin and Mark Braud (our new trumpet player) > went to the show in Ventura at the Magestic and Mark sat in with the > band on Mule and kicked ass. Now that I have typed this I am thinking > I might have already told you this. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:35:54 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Gandalf Publishing Seems like Chuck has made a decent creative life for himself. It won't hurt to perhaps drive some traffic to his website and shows. I don't think he exploited the association to Joni in quite the same way that many celebrities' exes do now, back in the 70s when it might have served him, and for that he gets points. (Then again, his answering machine might reply, "Hi you've reached Chuck Mitchell, Joni's ex-husband...please leave a message.") If they were tooling around in a 9 year old Porsche (in Detroit, in the 60s!!!), they liked a little bling. I did like the reference to "gin rummy, and curtains." I believe that besides the line from " I Had a King": He's taken the curtains down...I think that Joni has mentioned having made curtains for their Detroit apartment herself (along with some of her clothes) from recycled fabric. Or, maybe it was that the clothes were made from the curtains (see Carol Burnett)? CC "I love my Porsche." -- JM _________________________________________________________________ Enter the Zune-A-Day Giveaway for your chance to win  day after day after day http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobile_Zune_V1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:50:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: re: Gandalf Publishing > I did like the reference to "gin rummy, and curtains." I believe that > besides the line from " I Had a King": He's taken the curtains down...I > think that Joni has mentioned having made curtains for their Detroit > apartment herself (along with some of her clothes) from recycled fabric. > Or, maybe it was that the clothes were made from the curtains (see Carol > Burnett)? I saw them in the window and just HAD to have them! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:27:20 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: Fwd: Google Must Divulge YouTube Log (general news alert) As the subject says: "Google must hand over the log holding details of every user who has watched any video on YouTube, a US court ruled. " More here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488009.stm ======= my comment:. (Above from another list.) Another assault on our privacy rights! Totally unnecessary to have the addresses of viewers to prove a copyright infringement! And no provision that Viacom can't database & keep this info once rec'd. We already know what they did when Bush broke the FISA law and asked them to vacuum up copies of all our emails and phone calls over the last 5-7 years! B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:22:27 +0100 From: "Samuel Jeronimo" Subject: Re: sjc? jmdl slowdown Ola Patti, "Pet Sounds" is my desert island album. I've listened to it a zillion times. "Caroline No" is so gorgeous all that lost love scenario and the struggle to hold on to something that no longer exists. Now, to repay your kindness, here's something completely different (not that different, really  between Beach Boys and Beatles?...): - - The Zombies, Care Of Cell 44, http://goear.com/listen.php?v=0620d67; - - The Zombies, A Rose For Emily, http://www.goear.com/listen.php?v=e8d63c9; - - The Zombies, Brief Candles, http://goear.com/listen.php?v=28a0fa1. And check this one from the debut album of the lead singer: - - Colin Blunstone, Misty Roses, http://goear.com/listen.php?v=dda6740# . Love and peace, Samuel P.S. To loose those drumsticks wasn't such a good idea ;-) On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Patti Parlette wrote: > > > Obrigado (thank you in Portuguese), Samuel! > > I always loved Dennis Wilson. He was my favorite Beach Boy at the age of > 14. My mom brought me and 10 friends to see them in 1968 (circa just before > the release of STAS). Before the concert, we were sitting in a park in > Hartford, CT, when one of the roadies came up to talk to us teeny-boppers. > He promised to give us Denny's drumsticks after the show at the back door, > and he delivered. I wish I could say I still had the drumstick. Lost it > somewhere after all these years. > > The first youtube you posted has been removed (merde alors!) but the > second one is great. I always wished I had a river! > > Now, to repay your kindness, here's another BB beauty. Brian Wilson said > it is his favorite. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1rxMBA4w18 > > "Oh, Caroline > You break my heart..." > > "But there was one song he played I could really feel...." And don't get > me going on "God Only Knows". You will find that one there, too. > > Long live the Sixties! (LOL, I can safely say that while the Cover Cat's > away.) > > Amor e paz, > > Patti P. > > ****** > > Check out the new release by Dennis Wilson  well is not really (all) new, > but check it anyway ;-) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlHLZHd9EiM > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4yFWBbG_ZA > > Samuel > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail is giving away Zunes. Enter for your chance to win. > > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobi le_Zune_V3 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:42:09 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: another town another show (njc) wow! your life is better than my vacation. take care, gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Johnson" To: "Joni people!" Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: another town another show (njc) >I think I've successfully crossed over into the world that is Tom > Waits. Tonight was even better than last night. I was in the balcony > this time, further back, but the sound was excellent. The show was in > a very ornate theater, and had a very sublime quality. I definitely > felt like I transcended into some kind of netherworld, traveling to > different towns that are different facets of the same reality...kind > of like a musical traveling circus. Almost like living a > dream...You're innocent when you dream, one of the songs Tom played on > the piano tonight. And according to Tom Waits, if you happen to be in > Oklahoma, it is against the law to get a fish drunk (it used to be he > said, you could get drunk with your fish but not anymore) and it is > also against the law to give a cigarette to a monkey. Not as many > jokes/asides as last night but that's a good thing...it was more about > the music tonight. And it also occurred to me yet again what a small > world it is. The person sitting to my right was from Atlanta and also > plays in a band, frequents some of the same venues, etc... and a > person sitting to my left was also from Atlanta and we actually have a > mutual friend. > > I even got to sing a couple of songs at the Brewery before the show. > Melissa, the girl performing, was gracious enough to invite me to come > up and sing a couple...so I did an original, Ahdayneekay and Ol' 55 > for all the Tom Waits fans that were hanging out there. Melissa was > very cool...I asked her if she knew any Joni Mitchell and she said not > yet but that she'd love to learn something and really likes her > music. She had a great voice and would do great service to Joni songs > I do believe. > > wow........what an enchanted evening! > > Victor > > !DSPAM:144,486c5de6221413538016937! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? , NJC Everybody looks so ill at ease So distrustful so displeased Running down this table I see a borderline Like a barbed wire fence Strung tight Strung tense Prickling with pretense A borderlineIt irritates the bloody hell out of me when people call Joni "pretentious." As if they would know, the pretentious batards. People who don't get it call her pretentious. Absolutely no value added to my comment, but felt the need to vent. If forced at gunpoint to make a choice between pretentious or ambitious, I guess I'd go with ambitious, but that can be a derogatory adjective as well. - --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: Pretentious adjective 1. full of pretense or pretension. - --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Rian Afriadi wrote: Hmmm... Pretentious? Gotta find that in dictionary. Rian NP. Radiohead - Pyramid SongAh, no problem. __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:22:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fwd: Google Must Divulge YouTube Log (general news alert) Oh. Frigging. Brother. That sounds like the stupidest, most misguided thing anyone ever dreamt up. Good luck to them enforcing it. Good luck to the poor saps whose job it will be to filter though all the extremely boring, byzantine data this is going to dredge up for them in order to find anything of any relevance. They'll need to order vast quantities of coffee and toothpicks to keep their eyes open. - --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Barbara Stewart wrote: As the subject says: "Google must hand over the log holding details of every user who has watched any video on YouTube, a US court ruled. " More here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488009.stm ======= my comment:. (Above from another list.) Another assault on our privacy rights! Totally unnecessary to have the addresses of viewers to prove a copyright infringement! And no provision that Viacom can't database & keep this info once rec'd. We already know what they did when Bush broke the FISA law and asked them to vacuum up copies of all our emails and phone calls over the last 5-7 years! B __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:47:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? I suppose by some people, ambitious could be derogatory, yes. However, I didn't intend it that way. To me, ambition is a beautiful thing. What I mean when I say Joni is ambitious is that she STRIVES for perfection on her own terms. She has always challenged herself and the listener musically by making thoughtful, compelling music. She's always been seeking something more musically (and I'd guess personally though that can't be said for sure). I mean take one album and compare it to another for example. Just by having such a diverse set of material, she proves her ambition. For us, the fans, it brings a wind of refreshment. For critics, it can leave them a little confused. What the hell is she? Is she folk? Jazz? Rock? Oh boy, you just can't find a label. So I give Joni the compliment of being ambitious as that was my intention although I do think there is such a thing as being over ambitious....ambition for ambition's sake...but not in music. Musically, it is different. - -Monika - --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Catherine McKay wrote: If forced at gunpoint to make a choice between pretentious or ambitious, I guess I'd go with ambitious, but that can be a derogatory adjective as well. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni pretentious or ambitious? Aha! I mustn't have been paying attention in class. I thought you were quoting someone else. In that case, yes, ambitious by all means. Joni is distinctly Joni and I doubt anyone compares to her. She is definitely in a class of her own. - --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: I suppose by some people, ambitious could be derogatory, yes. However, I didn't intend it that way. To me, ambition is a beautiful thing. What I mean when I say Joni is ambitious is that she STRIVES for perfection on her own terms. She has always challenged herself and the listener musically by making thoughtful, compelling music. She's always been seeking something more musically (and I'd guess personally though that can't be said for sure). I mean take one album and compare it to another for example. Just by having such a diverse set of material, she proves her ambition. For us, the fans, it brings a wind of refreshment. For critics, it can leave them a little confused. What the hell is she? Is she folk? Jazz? Rock? Oh boy, you just can't find a label. So I give Joni the compliment of being ambitious as that was my intention although I do think there is such a thing as being over ambitious....ambition for ambition's sake...but not in music. Musically, it is different. - -Monika __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: the genius to save this place, plus Neil Diamond Mark wrote : Indeed Patti, I remember someone saying "money is the root of all evil" a long time ago. >>> Ah... I wish I could get 1 dollar everytime i say "money is the root of all evil".... Anyway, Today i went to a music store during, and I bought me a CD. It's Neil Diamond - Gold. I didn't look at the track list, but i was just happy enough to find I Am...I Said. Then, I went back to my office, played that CD on my PC. It took me a few minutes to realize that the CD contains two Joni covers : Both Sides Now and Chelsea Morning. Whoooa. Rian NP. Neil Diamond - CHelsea Morning ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:50:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: the genius to save this place, plus Neil Diamond Mark wrote : Indeed Patti, I remember someone saying "money is the root of all evil" a long time ago. >>> Ah... I wish I could get 1 dollar everytime i say "money is the root of all evil".... Anyway, Today i went to a music store during, and I bought me a CD. It's Neil Diamond - Gold. I didn't look at the track list, but i was just happy enough to find I Am...I Said. Then, I went back to my office, played that CD on my PC. It took me a few minutes to realize that the CD contains two Joni covers : Both Sides Now and Chelsea Morning. Whoooa. Rian NP. 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