From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #115 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, June 26 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 115 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Great Lyricists Booklet [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Still Listening (NJC) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] NJC, VLJC Hitting Vancouver [Patti Parlette ] The voice of God, njc [Laura Stanley ] Re: The voice of God, njc [Victor Johnson ] sjc, leave me the birds and the bees, please [Patti Parlette ] (NJC) Job Perks ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Thoughts on LOTC (long) [Garret ] Re: Thoughts on LOTC (long) ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: Great Lyricists Booklet [Monika Bogdanowicz ] njc, TV Alert: Emmylou on Charlie Rose right now [Patti Parlette Subject: Re: Great Lyricists Booklet Here's my list of 12 songs that represent Joni's lyrics. 1. I Had a King 2. Blue 3. Help Me 3. For The Roses 4. Same Situation 5. Both Sides, Now 6. The Circle Game 7. Woodstock 8. Woman of Heart and Mind 9. Amelia 10. Song For Sharon 11. The Boho Dance 12. Borderline Mark in Sydney NP The Three Great Stimulants (acoustic version) - JM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:37:41 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Still Listening (NJC) Hi Medric! Great to hear from again, you lurker you. Boy am I glad that all I said was NICE things. Bob NP: The Eagles, "Frail Grasp On The Big Picture" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:44:09 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: NJC, VLJC Hitting Vancouver Buenos dias, Joniamigos: With our friends Monika and Lori and kin hitting Vancouver, I feel compelled to share something with you. Just in case locals are up kicking and shaking on the floor about this, you'll know of what they speak. It's terribly disgusting, macabre and grisly. Delete or scroll by now if you're feeling queasy or weak in the knees this morning. Don't say I didn't warn ya! There's been something else hitting Vancouver. Human feet have been washing up on the shore: http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=a28ae8e0-5221-400a-b63a-db13f3c7d49e When I first heard about this, I prayed that Joni would not find one in This Place, and have it disturb her heavenly bliss and sparkle on the ocean. Subsequent reports say that the sixth foot was an animal's foot and a "reprehensible hoax." http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/367703_feet20.html Talk about being out of whack with nature! YUCK! Sorry for the yuck. (No "f@#k you" though... LOL!) Bon voyage and lovely landscapes to discover, Monika and Lori! Love, Patti P. NPIMH: Still I'd be on my feet oh I would still be on my feet That is already on the agenda.-Monika, who is planning the day trip to Victoria and Sunshine while her brother plans the rest _________________________________________________________________ Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=earncashback ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: The voice of God, njc This is right on: http://outriggercanoe.ning.com/video/video/show?id=2032409:Video:25674 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:12:45 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: The voice of God, njc When I was at Guilford in Carolina, my roommates and I plugged a mic into my keyboard amp and we would open the window into the quad and say,"This is the voice of God...you have to bring us bagels and doughnuts." I can't remember though if it ever worked or not. Pleasant memories... Victor in hotlanta NP: Beethoven Piano Sonata 21 op. 53 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:05:59 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: sjc, leave me the birds and the bees, please I think Joni would say: "Go UConn!" over *this* project. From NPR yesterday: http://www.cpbn.org/buzz-created-uconns-sustainability-project We're keeping bees, so we can feed our students milk and toast and honey! The government gave us four thousand dollars, you should've seen the bees fly away and do their jobs, almost like Peoples' Parties, every one playing his/her own role: ".....See all the different movements going on? Theres bees that have nothing to do except taking care of the Queen, theres bees that do nothing except for go out and scout locations, then they come back and tell other bees where to go and forge. The foragers come back, and theres bees that take the pollen off of them, and put it in the hive. So everybodys got a job, and its just amazing to me that the chaos, theres such organization here.... I wonder how you get to be Queen. Joni and Lulu, how do you get to be a queen? Love and Bees, Patti P. NPIMH: Hey farmer farmer Put away that DDT now Give me spots on my apples But leave me the birds and the bees Please _________________________________________________________________ The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the im Talkathon. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:19:54 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC, VLJC Hitting Vancouver Very interesting...gives the term "feet below sea level" a whole new meaning. Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "When The Levee Breaks" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:40:26 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Still Listening (NJC) > It's good to see one's name in print from time to time. I'm still listening, > y'all. a-HA! I had a feeling you were still around, Gentleman Faulkner. Hi! Lori, whose spouse may be related to you, Santa Rosa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:55:32 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: (NJC) Job Perks I'm not sure I've mentioned what I've been doing for work since October ... I'm the assistant to the Chairman of a local Native American tribe. Love the job, might actually stay in this one for awhile. (For anyone who has been paying counting, yes, this is my 5th job since arriving in California in December 2006.) The Tribe is planning to build a resort/casino in Sonoma County. Despite that they've committed to building it as "green" as possible, it remains a hotly contested issue. Regardless, we carry on ... Naturally, news of a resort that promises to bring fine entertainment to the area is going to attract unsolicited materials of all types. This morning a FedEx arrived from Sony/BMG in Nashville. Inside was a promo package for country singer Crystal Shawanda (of Wikwemikong Reserve on Manitoulin Island, Ontario), including a 4-cut CD. I'm not a huge fan of country music, but the songs on this CD are quite good. Just thought I'd pass along the name in case anyone is interested. Googling the singer results in a very nice MySpace page, among other mentions. Lori Santa Rosa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:15:52 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Re: Thoughts on LOTC (long) Aye, Monika, music can certainly change the most mundane of tasks (he says, bursting into a chorus of "a spoon full of sugar"). I enjoy LOTC a lot. For me, it is a perfect morning time album, especially in the summer. To be honest, i tend not to listen to BYT, Circle Game or Woodstock very often when i listen to it. I think i may be addicted to "Conversation";-) And, yes, i like that sense of fun that comes out at teh end of conversation. There are little flourishes like that across this album. In my mind, there is an element of experimentation going on for Joni (this is the album that follows Clouds, which i find kind of dull at times. mo particular song is dull, i think it just hangs that way) in terms of blening instruments. I think it sets her up for the heights she reaches on Blue and FTR. It may not be Joni's most powerful album, but it has numerous very beautiful moments. I'm happy to hear you enjoyed it, and thanks for the thoughts:-) GARRET NP - for some odd reason a sports show on the radio. i really need to change it. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > I noticed a couple of people had said they enjoyed listening to LOTC during the summer. Well, it was a beautiful day today so I decided to bring LOTC with me for the drive to and from work. I've got to say that LOTC is probably one of Joni's albums that I listen to the least. There's no particular reason as I do like the album but it isn't one of my favorites. There aren't too many songs that really give me a thrill as different songs on other albums have. > However, today after not listening to it in a while, it was very refreshing. There were many different ideas within the lyrics that I hadn't noticed before. I was concentrating more on the content than my driving! It was actually that entrancing. Perhaps it was the nice weather....or the fact I hadn't listened to the album in a while....or the luxury of being able to listen to some Joni in my car.....or the mood I was in or most likely a combination of all of the above. > First off, I found myself listening to "For Free" again even more closely and thinking about how Joni's attitude towards fame and success sort of changed within her career yet there remained a few constants. Whereas in for "For Free," Joni is almost guilty and apologetic in a sense of her musical success while she notices a man who plays just for the sake of playing without any sort of payment or reward. Joni tends to return to the concept of looking at other musicians new in the game from the standpoint of not a "been there, done that" as you might presume but a sense of a loss in that innocence....a longing in a way but also a warning for times to come. She does so in For The Roses as was discussed on the list not too long ago. > I also enjoyed, for the first time (other than at the song circle at the last Jonifest), "Conversation." I really enjoy the vocal melody on the following lines: > > "And I only say hello > And turn away before his lady knows > How much I want to see him" > AND the other lines that have the same melody... > > You can also hear Joni's Canadian accent on some of her words in this particular song. I must also mention, what a fun song! I love the end singing which proves to be a sing along! > It is also well known that "Willy" was a song written for and about Graham Nash. However, given what is known about their relationship (and specifically how it ended since Joni decided she didn't actually want to get married then) I find it curious she makes "Willy" the one with all the doubts. It makes perfect sense in a new relationship where you don't quite know where you stand with someone though. I love these lines: > > "But you know it's hard to tell > When you're in the spell if it's wrong or if it's real" > No kidding! > Anyway, it is almost midnight and I still have some of the songs in my head. I've been singing them to myself while doing mundane chores all day (laundry, taking the dog out, etc). Music makes the time worthwhile in a way. > That's all folks as its coming on midnight. G'night. > -Monika, in a rambling mood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:46:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Thoughts on LOTC (long) Will always be one of Joni's signature albums for me. And in my top five Joni albums. Jerry Garret wrote: > Aye, Monika, music can certainly change the most mundane of tasks (he > says, bursting into a chorus of "a spoon full of sugar"). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:25:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Great Lyricists Booklet Ah, a very tough question indeed. These would be my twelve selections today as tomorrow they might change entirely. Keep in mind these are a reflection of the lyrics alone. I'm not taking the music into account which always adds a whole other dimension to in Joni's songs. 1. Cactus Tree- for its beautiful way of describing love vs. freedom 2. Both Sides Now- any need to explain? 3. The Arrangement- there are some really killer lines in here that I hadn't really noticed before 4. River (love, love, love this song) 5. Banquet- a little social commentary anyone? 6. Judgement of the Moon and Stars- a song to inspire you to get up and take some action 7. Sweet Bird- philosophy in music at its best 8. Hejira 9. DJRD 10. Chinese Cafe- a song of reflection that just works 11. Borderline 12. Shine- a little something new....shine on you.... - -Monika - --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Garret wrote: Which songs might you choose? GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:51:19 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, TV Alert: Emmylou on Charlie Rose right now Emmylou's on right now. What a nice surprise just before dreamland! RR, are you up? (I hope the fires are not near you. I worry sometimes.) Kate, still no TV? I'm ccing you anyway. xo, pp, fading in a suburban room P.S. Next time Willy is on TV, would somebody please let me know? _________________________________________________________________ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=introsrchcashback ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:14:51 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: FW: A message from George Carlin NJC The paradox of our time in history is that: we have taller buildings but shorter tempers, wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less, we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families, more conveniences, but less time. We have more degrees but less sense, more knowledge, but less judgment, more experts, yet more problems, more medicine, but less wellness. We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbor. We conquered outer space but not inner space. We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less. These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion, big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses, but "broken homes". These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete... Remember; spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever. Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side. Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent. Remember, to say, 'I love you' to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again. Give time to love, give time to speak! And give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind. > AND ALWAYS REMEMBER: Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived. ~ by George Carlin _____ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! Try it Now ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #115 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------