From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #102 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, June 14 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 102 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- A Joni Afternoon... [Peep Richman ] Girls like us-the-movie NJC [Chuck Eisenhardt ] Re: Girls like us-the-movie NJC [Em ] re: Joni heading to Galway [Garret ] Re: Girls like us-the-movie NJC ["Jerry Notaro" ] re: Joni heading to Galway [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] John Rutsey, original drummer for Rush RIP(njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: love is like a big brass band [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Joni sings: "Come on people now, smile on your brother..." [Patti Parlett] Re: Joni sings: "Come on people now, smile on your brother..." now njc [C] Tim Russert - NJC [Jerry Notaro ] U.S. Passport information ["Cassy" ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #75 (NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Tim Russert - NJC [rosemjoy@aol.com] Re: U.S. Passport information ["Cassy" ] Re: Tim Russert - NJC [Jeannie ] Re: articles of impeachment, njc [Jeannie ] Re: articles of inpeachment, njc ["Kate Bennett" ] njc, SHOCK over Tim Russert [Patti Parlette ] Hejira and Court and Spark Songbooks [rosemjoy@aol.com] RE: Joni heading to Galway [Patti Parlette ] Re: Tim Russert - NJC [Monika Bogdanowicz ] tim russert ["gene" ] Re: Tim Russert - NJC [Michael Paz ] Re: Tim Russert - NJC ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Tim Russert - NJC [Victor Johnson ] Re: Important to me [Peep Richman ] Re: Tim Russert - NJC [rosemjoy@aol.com] Re: Tim Russert - NJC ["Mark Angelo" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:00:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: A Joni Afternoon... It was shortly after 9AM when I woke up this morning. I had an unusual amount of energy...good spirits....just feeling good in my own skin...know what I mean???? Well, I got into this cleaning jag....picture this: a 57 year old dressed in black capri's and a mostly black tee-shirt, wavy hair all over my head and, like a white (and black) tornado, I dusted and scrubbed, scoured and vacuumed...and every frame and glass of soooo many pieces of art-work (you can't see my walls) had to Shine...along with cleaning the many pieces of pottery...you know, I just had to wipe every surface clean...lots of OCD. Then I sat down and read the Digest V2008#99 (every single time I see that "Peep Richman" I say to myself, "Who is that?"....I haven't a clue how to change it...I have a lot of names that were given birth by particular important events in my life. Most people call me Bo....a few Peep.... Anyhow, the idea of a movie of Joni, Carley and Carole just fascinates me. I haven't read the book yet (reading Alice Hoffman's brand new book and Irvin D. Yalom's "Momma and the Meaning of Life") but casting potential actors just intrigues me. For a few hours I went on the link that Patti gave us and I just sat, transfixed, watching and listening to Joni videos...from so many stages/ages. I never feel as though I can describe Joni with sentences of praise or awe. There's no perfect way to describe her.....at least I can't...not with words and sentences and paragraphs. I'd have to sculpt or paint or do a mosaic...not OF Joni but what she inspires within me. Just before I forget, I think that I and some other Digest people may really be missing our younger days. But you know, we carry all of our ages within us and I wonder who in the world is that woman who stares at me in my mirror???? I think, 'she hitched to Woodstock for her honeymoon???' and now she's into a streak of cleaning? Well, it really doesn't matter....but I miss the 60's and '70's...that was a time I could feel as free as the birds way up in the sky... It's now, to be exact, 5:21AM (Friday ). I think I began writing this on Wednesday. I remember sitting for hours watching Joni videos on YouTube from a link Patti gave us...I think it was Patti. Somehow I lose my sense of time, and here it is, almost ready for the work-world to dress for their morning rush to their jobs...whatever...and I haven't slept yet. I rarely re-read what I've written in e-mails...I'm more concerned with using spell-check so the fact that I'm a moron won't be discovered. That's really a contradiction in the way I feel/think....With one very urgent feeling...I NEVER would knowingly hurt another human being (or furry friends), I really don't care what other people think about me. If they're thinking about me then that's proof positive that some thing's amiss in their lives!!! Anyhow....back to my compulsive thoughts about what actor could possibly play Joni/Carole/Carly in a major motion picture....and the fact that the executive producer (I think that's who it was) is producing "House" (I simply adore the character of Dr. House) makes me feel like this project has fantastic possibilities. And so I've come up with a list: Note: interestingly, I can envision many actors playing Joni but few come to mind for Carole and Carley. Carly: Alanis Morisette, Wynona Ryder Carole: Sandra Bullock, Mercedes Ruetil, Mira Sorvino, Liv Ullman, Kate Hudson Joni: Uma Thurman, Sissy Spacek, Susan Sarandon, Dakota....hmmm, forget that super-talented young girl's last name, Kim Basinger, Rosanna Arquette, Laura Dern, Jill Clayburgh, Faye Dunaway, Mia Farrow, Daryl Hannah, Nicole Kidman, Jessica Lange, Michelle Pfeiffer. As these actors popped into my mind, like in a brain-storming sort of way, I wasn't thinking particular ages for any of "Girl's Like Us"....just resting on my intuition and maybe my under cover wish that I had devoted my early self...like 16, 17...to learning the craft and skills for becoming a casting agent. Now I want to share a sampling of quotes...I'm a collector! "Each day, and the living of it, has to be a conscious creation in which discipline and order are relieved with some play and pure foolishness." -May Sarton "No one can arrive from being talented alone. God gives talent, work transforms talent into genius." -Anna Pavlova Why these two quotes...plucked from pages and pages of carefully written quotes I love? I think it's revealing that I'm choosing (unconsciously) quotes about my feelings about Joni AND many of the people in our Digest family. The sky is light now...and I've been up, productive and happy for three days...not a sad feeling (except to reflect on various situations facing people in my life and people from the Digest). I'm reminded of my younger days when I would be up for days, painting, writing, singing....and working to boot. I'm oh so much wiser now (or completely meeting the criteria for Bipolar Disorders...or maybe a more gentle form...Cyclothymic Disorder)...but, whatever...I was saying that I'm wiser now (don't bet on it) and I'm going to read myself to sleep. I can't re-read this posting...I probably wouldn't send it. And so, before I click on that little Send word, I'll tell you all that I'm sending you, with this posting, a lot of respect, love and wishes that life is treating you gently. Lots of great big hugs! Bo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:02:13 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: Girls like us-the-movie NJC For Cate Blanchett to 'pull off Bob Dylan' she wouldn't be too old, but he would..... np 'It Don't Mean a Thing if It Ain't got that Swing' - Puppini Sisters ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:01:47 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: a little Joni in the workplace Indeed you do, Joni Trivia Master! I am impressed, and bow down to you while repeating "not worthy, not worthy". Did Errol Flynn ever actually wear a sarong in a film? (That's rhetorical) Catherine, you were darn close - you did have a Dreamland guess after all. Bob NP: Joni, "Big Yellow Taxi" PS: Happy Friday, Joni-buddies! - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Anyway, I'm sure Joni doesn't have to worry at the exact age of 65 but health worries come and go (or sometimes don't go). It is sadly a part of life. I wish everyone could be healthy and happy but that is just my little unattainable utopian world. -Monika, who didn't wake in a cheery mood today but loves hearing those who did! NP: Dr. Junk-Joni NR: Jacob's Rood- Virginia Woolf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:03:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Girls like us-the-movie NJC but he "was so much older then"! ;) sorry, couldn't resist... Em - --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Chuck Eisenhardt wrote: > From: Chuck Eisenhardt > Subject: Girls like us-the-movie NJC > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 8:02 AM > For Cate Blanchett to 'pull off Bob Dylan' she > wouldn't be too old, > but he would..... > > np 'It Don't Mean a Thing if It Ain't got that > Swing' - Puppini Sisters > ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:11:48 +0100 From: Garret Subject: re: Joni heading to Galway i nearly got sick when i read this patti!! holy phook, this is exciting. i hadn't read digest all week and just took in at the most recent one. i really logged on to whinge to you all about the stoopid irish voting "no" too the lisbon treaty and i see this. will joni be there? GARRET Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:34:02 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Joni heading to Galway Go Zooby! Go Paz! Go Garrett! Ooh la la! Who else is going? Lucy, Anita, Lieve? You must get together 16 jmdlers to escort her to these halls! Hey, * I * know! (bright as a neon light) Find out where she is staying and rent her a grand piano and put some flowers round her room. Joni likes that stuff, something tells me. (Paz, you can get a piano delivered, can't you hunny?) Go over and ask for a song. Maybe put on some kind of harmony! Sit in the lounge of the Empire Hotel! Maybe then along will come our lady with lacy sleeves. Bring a bottle of German wine to drink and tell her drinkin' alone's a shame (it's a shame, it's a cryin' shame). Or bring gin. Gin's what she's drinkin'. Or sweet champagne. Or tea and lemondade. Ooby shooby, Flip City....I don't know! ; ) Or should I say Ooby Zooby? Yeah. I like that! You got a chance Hot dog darlins You got a chance to see Joni! Catherine and Rachel, I hope you get to see her in Toronto, too. Anyone else going? Boy oh boy, Joni's really getting around these days! (Uh oh....Beach Boys TIC!) I get around Get around round round I get around From town to town Get around round round I get around I'm a real cool head Get around round round I get around I'm makin' real good bread Get around round round I get around I get around Round Get around round round oooo Wah wa ooo Wah wa ooo Wah wa ooo I really do hope a lot of you get to see her. Personally, I don't think I could handle being in the same city as her, to walk around in so much need. I'd need pills and powders! Love, Patti P. **** It's Green Flag Song that will be there in Galway. I'll be going over for sure I hope! Zooby 2008/6/11 : > Heads up Garret! http://www.galwayindependent.com/local-news/local-news/over-400-artists-to-descend-on-galway-for-arts-festival/ And Paz's band will be there too - hey Michael, hang out with Joni and get some pics, OK? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:38:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Girls like us-the-movie NJC Chuck Eisenhardt wrote: > np 'It Don't Mean a Thing if It Ain't got that Swing' - Puppini Sisters I LOVE the Puppini Sisters. They are touring with the True Colors Tour and I was excited that I was going to see them. I have tickets for next week. Instead, they are going to be at B.B. King's in NYC that night. But I will get to see the B-52's instead! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:27:25 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: re: Joni heading to Galway The way I read it, Garret, it sure sounds like Joni incarnate will be there...it doesn't say "the work of..." but instead lists actual performers/artists names: "The Philip Glass Ensemble, Druid, Bill Viola, Joni Mitchell, Omara Portuondo, Preservation Hall Jazz Band, Tinariwen, Walker Evans, Blondie, Larry Gelbart, Craig Wright and John Mahoney are just some of the iconic and world renowned artists featured at Galway Arts Festival, which takes place from Monday 14 to Sunday 27 July this year." I'm not betting the 401K on it but it sure SOUNDS like she will be. Bob NP: Ani, "So What" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I'm planning on catching them on July 22 at the new Verizon Wireless ampitheater in Alpharetta where YES was to play. http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=18533 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:10:48 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: love is like a big brass band Bob congratulations for up to and covers 100. You mean so much to this list. All your efforts are a backbone thank you The song is beautiful. . love is like a big brass band. Gary made sure I paid attention to it and now I have fallen into it. bob sent it on covers 100 does any one have joni singing it. can someone share the cover with the list so they can down load it and listen? you must hear this song. 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Bob, keeping in mind that the backbone is close to the a$$ NP: Joni, "You Dream Flat Tires" (T-log version) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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After that experience, I went to look for Immigration Man lyrics and a youtube to accompany what what playing in my head when I stumbled upon this gem that made me feel a little better. Maybe some of you have seen it before, but it's a thing that's unique and new to me! ; ) Joni and CSN singing at Big Sur (It says CSNY but I don't see Y -- only John Sebastian)....slide over to .53 when the good part begins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-d44jZADbI&feature=related They look like they're having fun and they look so young and earnest and Joni looks so "Joni" and it's sweet how Stills kisses her on the shoulder when the song ends. Affection and respect, a little passion. Love is but a song we sing Fear's the way we die. Sigh. Trying to shake off those U.S. Blues, and Joni just helped, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:51:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni sings: "Come on people now, smile on your brother..." now njc - --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Patti Parlette wrote: > I just > spent three hours in a visa/immigration workshop and my > head was reeling with all the new rules and regulations > (some by Presidential decree -- OH DON'T GET ME GOING > ON BUSH NOW!!!!) that change on an almost daily basis and I > was ready to scream. I won't bore you with the details > but they are unbelievable and will cause many people much > toil and trouble, not to mention additional fees. Money > money money money. > ...makes the trees fall down. He has to find some way of paying for that war of his. Either Americans should stay home and spend their tourist dollars in the US of A, or, if they want to take it elsewhere, make them go through a lot of hassle and pay for the means to get there. How much does it cost to get a US passport? Ours are $87.00 and it's good for five years, and I need to get mine renewed. Just wondering how that compares. __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:06:38 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Tim Russert - NJC A friend of mine, Tim Russert, has just died of a heart attack. Tim and I were in the same class all through high school and we graduated together. He was to be the big cheese at our 40th reunion next week at Canisius High School9s graduation. He was a really good, regular guy and I can9t imagine watching all the election reports without him this year. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:40:49 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: U.S. Passport information If a person is over 16 yrs of age and is applying for a first-time passport it costs $100.00. If the passport is a renewal it's $75.00 From the time of application to getting it in the mail is running about 3-4 weeks at the moment, I got mine about 3 weeks after filing the application at the post office. The thing is, the U.S.A. now has two types of passports, book and card. The cost of the card is a bit less but can only be used for land and sea travel between the United States and Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda, not worldwide. This was done in anticipation of land border travel document requirements which will be taking effect sometime June of 2009 if they don't push it back again. Warmly, Cassy NP: Not a thing (unusual for me) If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" To: ; "Patti Parlette" Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Joni sings: "Come on people now, smile on your brother..." now njc > --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Patti Parlette wrote: > >> I just >> spent three hours in a visa/immigration workshop and my >> head was reeling with all the new rules and regulations >> (some by Presidential decree -- OH DON'T GET ME GOING >> ON BUSH NOW!!!!) that change on an almost daily basis and I >> was ready to scream. I won't bore you with the details >> but they are unbelievable and will cause many people much >> toil and trouble, not to mention additional fees. Money >> money money money. >> > > ...makes the trees fall down. > > He has to find some way of paying for that war of his. Either Americans > should stay home and spend their tourist dollars in the US of A, or, if > they want to take it elsewhere, make them go through a lot of hassle and > pay for the means to get there. > > How much does it cost to get a US passport? Ours are $87.00 and it's good > for five years, and I need to get mine renewed. Just wondering how that > compares. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:51:10 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #75 (NJC) > Another actress that occurred to me was Emily Browning to play Carly > Simon. You may remember her from Lemony Snicket's A Series of > Unfortunate Events. Nope. I just can't do it. I cannot come anywhere near reading a book written by someone with such an unfortunate name. "Lemony Snicket" ... gives me the willies just typing it. BLECH. Lori Santa Rosa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:53:25 -0400 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC Jerry, That is so sad...he was so young. Sorry for your loss. Rosie still in NJ - -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Notaro To: Joni List Sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 4:06 pm Subject: Tim Russert - NJC A friend of mine, Tim Russert, has just died of a heart attack. Tim and I were in the same class all through high school and we graduated together. He was to be the big cheese at our 40th reunion next week at Canisius High School9s graduation. He was a really good, regular guy and I can9t imagine watching all the election reports without him this year. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:01:16 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: U.S. Passport information Please forgive the lack of NJC tag. I am guilty from time to time but try very hard not to disrespect your choices. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:45:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC I just heard the sad news, Jerry. It was so sudden. I'm going to miss him on Sunday mornings. My condolences to his family and friends like you. Truly, Jeannie ~nj~ - --- On Fri, 6/13/08, Jerry Notaro wrote: > From: Jerry Notaro > Subject: Tim Russert - NJC > To: "Joni List" > Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 3:06 PM > A friend of mine, Tim Russert, has just died of a heart > attack. Tim and I > were in the same class all through high school and we > graduated together. He > was to be the big cheese at our 40th reunion next week at > Canisius High > School9s graduation. He was a really good, regular guy and > I can9t imagine > watching all the election reports without him this year. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: articles of impeachment, njc Dennis Kucinich is THE politician who is the #1 object of my affection, appreciation and utmost respect for his truths and courage and who never, ever gets cold feet and is supremely relentless in his pursuits for justice through his prayers for America. He's the only politician I've ever had a crush on and it hurts me inside when people just scoff him aside. But I know better. For those who are first shall now be last and those who were last shall now come forward be first and formost. Jeannie ~nj~ - --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Mark Angelo wrote: > From: Mark Angelo > Subject: Re: articles of inpeachment, njc > To: "Randy Remote" > Cc: "gene" , "Steve Petrica" , joni@smoe.org > Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 7:02 PM > Although this is the most important motion made in Congress > in the 21st > century, it was also the most significant plea for a > restoration of the > republic, which had been swept to one side by the mad > antics of a president > bent on great crime. And as I listened with awe to > Kucinich, I realized that > no newspaper in the U.S., no broadcast or cable network, > would pay much > notice to the fact that a highly respected member of > Congress was asking for > the president and vice president to be tried for crimes > which were carefully > listed by Kucinich in his articles requesting impeachment. > But then I have known for a long time that the media of the > U.S. and too > many of its elected officials give not a flying fuck for > the welfare of this > republic, and so I turned, as I often do, to the foreign > press for a clear > report of what has been going on in Congress...It is Le > Monde, a French > newspaper, that told a story the next day hardly touched by > The New York > Times or The Washington Post or The Wall Street Journal or, > in fact, any > other major American media outlet. > > Gore Vidal > Gore Vidal's Articles of > Impeachment > > The fact that this story made the headlines in France and > Ireland and > Germany etc. actually does more harm than good. The effect > is this. At home > within their borders they see this legitimate earth > shattering news and > assume that it is so here in the US as well. So when > nothing happens and > Bush remains in office, foreign hatred for Americans > festers because they > say to themselves "how could Americans keep this > despot in power". It is the > same syndrome that occurred during WWII with Germany. There > was a media > blackout there, and the German citizens only believed what > Hitler's > propaganda ministers told them and the rest of the world > was thinking how > could the citizens of Germany not know what was happening. > Well now the shoe > is on the other foot isn't it? > > Anonymous and Troubling Comment > > -- > -Mark in Florida > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Randy Remote > wrote: > > > Does anybody find it strange that not "ONE" > national media has provided > >> any coverage or mention of this event? > >> gene > >> > > > > Disgraceful, but consistent with the free pass that > the major > > media has given this administration, which led to this > > stupid war in the first place. Shame on you, Mr. > Media! > > RR ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:48:10 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: articles of inpeachment, njc Yay for Dennis Kucinich. It is sad that he was never taken seriously enough to be a presidential nominee. I was thinking of mentioning him earlier in the week during the discussion about 'politicians' running. He's a good example of why, someone who is less of a politician doesn't stand a chance of winning the executive seat. His voice & actions are so important. And, how anyone can dis Obama as a 'politician' without doing the same for H Clinton is beyond me. She is as political as they come but that is what it takes to be a presidential candidate. BTW, I was impressed with her concession speech. Good move, maybe also personally politically advantageous, but at this point I will just give her credit for throwing her support 100% behind Obama. Hopefully her base will do so also. The alternative is too horrible to mention. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:27:58 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, SHOCK over Tim Russert What a shock to get in the car and turn on the radio to hear Tim Russert being talked about in the past tense. "What????? Oh, NO!", I cried out. During the craziness of the past 16 months, whenever I was channel-surfing for political news and reasoned explanations of it all, I would always stop to hear Tim Russert. I trusted and respected him and his work. No bullshit. Let's get to the truth, please. What a loss. I loved how he loved his Dad and wasn't too macho to show it. Beautiful. What a sad Father's Day it will be for his Dad and his son. I'm thinking he was the Walter Cronkite of our generation. "Sunday will never be the same." With great sadness, and sending up prayers for his family and friends, Patti P. NPIMH: Shower the People _________________________________________________________________ Instantly invite friends from Facebook and other social networks to join you on Windows Live Messenger. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_InviteFriends ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:08:15 -0400 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Hejira and Court and Spark Songbooks My Joni Amigos..I just listed on?Ebay now....Both are in Mint Condition, like brand new...Go get em before they are gone! Rosie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:39:51 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: Joni heading to Galway I hope you get to go, Garret. Is it far from you? Can you imagine seeing JONI in PERSON? I think I'd faint! Love, Patti P. > > i nearly got sick when i read this patti!! holy phook, this is exciting. > > i hadn't read digest all week and just took in at the most recent one. > > i really logged on to whinge to you all about the stoopid irish voting > "no" too the lisbon treaty and i see this. will joni be there? > GARRET _________________________________________________________________ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:43:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC What a shame. He was one of the journalists/reporters/broadcasters I really liked. He was always very professional, very objective, very interesting and got right down to what needed to be said or asked. -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:09:46 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: tim russert Real Bummer, Sunday mornings, coffee, and Meet The Press----it was an institution with me. He did his job about as well as anyone ever has, and gained the respect of everyone, regardless of ideology, for it. He had the option of replacing Brokaw and he decided to keep running the Washington Newsroom instead. He was a really really good guy, and I personally will miss him, not just for his presence on TV, but for his influence behind the camera as well. Rest in Peace Mr. Russert and condolences to your family. gene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:18:06 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC Jerry I am so sorry to hear this sad news. My heart goes out to you tonight. I am sitting here with the family and friends looking out over Old River in Orange Beach on Ono Island on our last night of vacation and am raising my glass in your direction and thinking of you and Tim. Heal fast old friend. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Jun 13, 2008, at 3:53 PM, rosemjoy@aol.com wrote: Jerry, That is so sad...he was so young. Sorry for your loss. Rosie still in NJ - -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Notaro To: Joni List Sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 4:06 pm Subject: Tim Russert - NJC A friend of mine, Tim Russert, has just died of a heart attack. Tim and I were in the same class all through high school and we graduated together. He was to be the big cheese at our 40th reunion next week at Canisius High School9s graduation. He was a really good, regular guy and I can9t imagine watching all the election reports without him this year. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:51:34 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC Jerry, sorry to hear about your friend. Sometimes change comes at you... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" To: "Joni List" Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Tim Russert - NJC >A friend of mine, Tim Russert, has just died of a heart attack. Tim and I > were in the same class all through high school and we graduated together. > He > was to be the big cheese at our 40th reunion next week at Canisius High > School9s graduation. He was a really good, regular guy and I can9t > imagine > watching all the election reports without him this year. > > Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:04:06 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC Sad news....sending warm thoughts your way. On Jun 13, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Randy Remote wrote: > Jerry, sorry to hear about your friend. Sometimes change comes > at you... > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" > > To: "Joni List" > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:06 PM > Subject: Tim Russert - NJC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:59:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: Important to me Hi, I have just finished watching the movie "Home of the Brave". I am not reacting in a way that describes your feelings after watching a movie that moves you emotionally. Of course, this movie has made a remarkable impact on my thinking and feelings but I want you to know that I'm not over-reacting. I'm writing this posting because I feel so close to everyone who contributes to the Digest and there are several people who have become incredibly special to me. "Home of the Brave" is about veterans of the Iraq war and their difficulty readjusting to living...to life in our country. The acting is flawless. The script, powerful. I am and have always been a pacifist. I remember going on almost every march during the Vietnam-Nam war. Even though I was very involved, I remember seeing the movie, "Platoon" and just sobbing...feeling that I hadn't done enough, helped enough. And I feel the same way now. All war, regardless in what country they may be, touch me in the very core of my being. I think about all that is happening in our world; I think about individuals, families, all experiencing hell. I read, watch CNN, write; nothing feels as though it's personal and enough. Of course, I struggle with my own problems...we all do...and all problems are relevant to the person in conflict, in sorrow, and in overwhelming sadness. No 'but', just wanting to do something specific...hands-on... to help returning individuals from the arm forces to the USA. I'm posting this because I know the people in our Digest family feel things with great passion. I'm writing because I am so grateful to be able to communicate with you through posting. You know how it's so easy to stay in your personal zone; that place where everyone and every environment is filled with pleasures, memories, both sad and happy; you know how it's so seemingly reasonable to tumble into our lives and the content of our existence? I know that I sometimes get so wrapped up in me...in my problems, my concerns, my ego, that I forget how absolutely blessed I am to have so much. And I spend entire days without thinking about what is happening in war-torn cities, entire countries. I know that I have always been and will remain until my death, as liberal as it is possible to be. And I can tell you that in my tiny way, I try to do one thing each day...or many things each day...to help someone, to offer hope to those in despair...to help a struggling person or a family. And right this minute I can tell you that I'm realizing that I really don't do this each day...that I'm way too wrapped up in myself...but I always try to regain my commitment to help, in whatever the capacity can be. We have united as a group, as what I consider to be a family of sorts. Joni has had the most impact for me, as has Joan Baez and several other artists of similar expression. Joni has the ability to translate intensely personal issues and events that have had an impact in her life, an impact within her soul. "Shine" is a wake-up call from Joni to the people on our planet....certainly to each person who is blessed to have "Shine". I know I'm rambling on...I know I may not be making much sense....I also know that you'll understand. I know that Joni understands all too well. And I know that I want to have a more behavioral role in helping other people. I have been a therapist for many decades. I'm proud of my skills and humble enough to still have a supervisor and to read as much as I possibly can on a professional basis. But I am going to take this to a new realm...don't know how at the moment, but I know myself and I know I'll try. Watching this movie has made me feel even closer to Joni. Aren't we remarkably fortunate to each 'know' Joni....to know that within her mind and talent, that you can only describe as genius, she has once again shared herself with all who have the good fortune to listen. My sincere apology if I've taken your time, rambled on and on when I know so many people on the Digest are equally if not more passionate about the things I've brought up in this posting. I just really had to share my feelings with you. Thank you for being there for me. An enormous hug and so much love to you from me. Bo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:18:28 -0400 From: rosemjoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC He was a huge?Springsteen fan. He was often seen lingering long after a show while the venue emptied with a?big smile on his face.?They played You're Missing and Into the Fire during tonight's special broadcast. Rosie - -----Original Message----- From: Randy Remote To: Jerry Notaro ; Joni List Sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC Jerry, sorry to hear about your friend. Sometimes change comes? at you...? ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Notaro" ? To: "Joni List" ? Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 1:06 PM? Subject: Tim Russert - NJC? ? >A friend of mine, Tim Russert, has just died of a heart attack. Tim and I? > were in the same class all through high school and we graduated together. > He? > was to be the big cheese at our 40th reunion next week at Canisius High? > School9s graduation. He was a really good, regular guy and I can9t > imagine? > watching all the election reports without him this year.? >? > Jerry? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:32:31 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Tim Russert - NJC Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend and a national treasure. One of the few journalists left in the MSM that I actually had any measure of respect for. He had integrity, something lacking in today's journalists who are ever eager to spread more propaganda and fluff. Such a sad event. - -- - -Mark in Florida On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Jerry Notaro wrote in part: > A friend of mine, Tim Russert, has just died of a heart attack. > Jerry ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #102 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------