From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #92 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, June 4 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 092 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... [Ma] Genetic Link Discovered! [Jerry Notaro ] NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP [Smurf ] Re: SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... ["M] Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP [Smurf ] fairlight [vincenzo mancini ] Re: SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... ["M] Re: RIP Alton Kelly (njc) ["Lori Fye" ] SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... [Patti ] RE: violin and left hand, njc [Patti Parlette ] Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP [Catherine McKay ] Barack is the Democratic candidate [Jeannie ] Re: Barack is the Democratic candidate [Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... That was a great story, Kevin. I could really relate. Such an appropriate song for that situation. I've only been into a Starbucks two or three times so, I'm not sure what music they're playing in their Australian stores. It's probably piped too. There was great controversy when Starbucks tried to open a store in Balmain here in Sydney. Balmain is a very affluent area with mostly home businesses like, interior designers, movie producers, talent agencies, that sort of thing. The people are very proud of the fact that they have so far managed to keep all the other chains out of the area. They stopped McDonalds from opening a store there. Pizza Hut opened one down the road but closed again a few months later. They boycotted and petitioned them. When Starbucks announced a store there, they tried the same thing. Not in out area. Balmain is well known in Sydney for it's boutique coffee houses and cafes. Finally, the local council announced in the local newspaper that they are aware of the disapproval of the residents to a Starbucks opening in Balmain but they weren't doing anything illegal and therefore could not be prevented from opening. Starbucks, Balmain is now one of their busiest stores. Now it's full of beauty parlour blondes with credit card eyes. Mark in Sydney NP Beethoven - Eurythmics ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:08:16 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Genetic Link Discovered! I9ve been a longtime fan of Alec Mapa. He9s done tons of Broadway and television, but like Leslie Jordan, also an incredible talent, is best known for gay, supporting roles on well known television shows. He plays Vern, Gabby9s best friend on Desperate Housewives, and the gossip reporter on Ugly Betty. I9m going to see his show at Joe9s Pub called America9s Gaysian Sweetheart. In an interview with him on Broadwayworld.com they asked: TJ: What kind of music do you like? MAPA: Anything Joni Mitchell, Dolly Parton, Rickie Lee Jones, Rufus Wainwright. I'm a show queen, so Patti LuPone is the queen of the goddamn universe and that's all there is to it. I'll also get hooked on a soundtrack and listen to it on a loop. My last obsession was Grey Gardens. I can't put that CD on with my husband in the room or he'll leave me. So there it is, folks. The definitive genetic link between Joni and Show Queens. Smurph, rejoice! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 06:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP The third of June I got some news this morning from Chocktaw Ridge. Today Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... Thanks for sharing this "insider info" about Starbucks Kevin, and and to Mark as well for the story about how Starbucks was ultimately successful in a tale of classist struggle, ultimately positioning itself in an upscale area of Sydney. I've yet to venture into one in the 2 years since returning to Florida, but I did go frequently while I was in Tucson (especially the one inside the nearby Albertson's grocery store). I hardly fall into the category of the elite you describe but I didn't mind paying the $5 or whatever for the Venti (hate that word - sounds so condescending) vanilla frappuccinos. The crushed ice was a refreshing relief from the heat, and I justified the $5 by rationalizing it as a complete meal - maybe not "balanced" *ahem* but it served as my lunch or dinner at that price. I've never seen one of the HDTV's you mention - it's been over 2 years after all - but I was wondering from what you said do they have a real-time feed of the music and video signal from HQ or simply distribute media every so often - sounds like a live signal from your description. I was surprised to learn after venturing into a Border's with it's Seattle's Best Coffee (as opposed to Barnes and Nobles with a Starbucks contract) from my brother who worked at Border's at the time that Seattle's Best Coffee is itself a division of Starbucks and thus their main competitor has largely been themselves - what a feat of capitalism!! I remember Starbucks was the only place I've heard Aimee Mann singing a cover of "River". Yes I agree they do have better playlists than most symbols of American culture, and having Joni sign on with their label graced so many of us with "Shine", and with some irony, delivered a more eloquent and serenely resigned version of her long-asked question, "How long, HOW LONG Big Business Man?" (WTRF) and of necessity the culture of consumerism which enables the symbiotic relationship. In their effort to justify a rather costly product by using marketing to appeal to the superimposed strata of American culture , which of course the multitudes are inculcated to emulate, have they contributed to their own recent decline, having to bring out the boards and the nails to any number of stores? Have they seen the gas gauge and the damage done, a little bit of it in everyone? They help supply one of a number of stimulants to keep America's culture of indulgence and mania going, but when America's less-discussed addiction to oil begins to cost more than their addiction to caffeine, windfall oil company profits seem to indicate where America goes to obtain their real "fix", at the pump. Overpriced coffee houses selling elusive dreams and vague desires, not so much. Seeking simplicity and peace of mind in this land of Hopelessly Oppressed Cowards of Some Duplicity - Oh Say Can You See? - -Mark in Florida On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, KEVIN DOHENY wrote in part: > When Joni first announced her partnership with the Starbucks corporation I > remember hearing lots of grumbling about it..They are the enemy of the world > apparently... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:52:51 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP > I got some news this morning from Chocktaw Ridge. Today Billy Joe > McAllister jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge. > Yayee Smurph! You remembered, although it's the *Tallahatchie* Bridge. My year is complete now. Jimmy, listening to Mama hollering out the back door ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 06:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP I just got some news from brother Jimmy -- the one who didn't marry Becky Thompson -- that the bridge is Tallahatchie, of course, not Tallahassee. I knew that before old age set in. - --Smurf - ----- Original Message ---- From: Smurf To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 9:23:16 AM Subject: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP The third of June I got some news this morning from Chocktaw Ridge. Today Billy Joe McAllister jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge. - --Smurf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:25:07 +0000 From: vincenzo mancini Subject: fairlight At 1:54, you can watch and listen for about a minute to a certain lady http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-SNbR304HA Vincenzo _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&m kt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:35:15 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... Oops - Correction: "How long, HOW LONG, shortsighted business man?" (WTRF) for the Joni grammarians before they pounce on me ;-) - -Mark in Florida On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Mark Angelo wrote: > > I remember Starbucks was the only place I've heard Aimee Mann singing a > cover of "River". Yes I agree they do have better playlists than most > symbols of American culture, and having Joni sign on with their label graced > so many of us with "Shine", and with some irony, delivered a more eloquent > and serenely resigned version of her long-asked question, "How long, HOW > LONG Big Business Man?" (WTRF) and of necessity the culture of consumerism > which enables the symbiotic relationship. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:16:03 -0700 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: RIP Alton Kelly (njc) >> http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/news.php?id=19029 > Holy sh_t! this is Mouse/Kelly Kelly dude? That was > some mind blowing art. Yeah, and who knew Alton Kelley lived just "down the road" from me? Petaluma is only 20 miles south of where I live (and just 10 miles south of where I work). "Kelley and his life-long collaborator Stanley Mouse are best known for their posters for "San Francisco style" dance-concerts at the Fillmore Auditorium, Winterland arena, the Fillmore West, the Avalon Ballroom, and a host of other Bay Area theaters and amphitheaters." Next time I go to the Fillmore, I'll pay special attention to the art on the walls. There's a ton of it, and surely there must be some pieces by Kelley. Lori Santa Rosa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:20:32 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: SJC...Joni, Coffee, World Domination, and Desperate Housewives... Kevin wrote: When Joni first announced her partnership with the Starbucks corporation I remember hearing lots of grumbling about it..They are the enemy of the world apparently(i wonderif the ceo of dunkin donuts started that)..lol. **** Speaking of Dunkin Donuts, I think the CEO there now is "looking at big trouble". Have you heard about them pulling a Rachel Ray ad because her scarf looked "too Arab"? (Yeah, Rachel Ray is a terrorist. Oh, my head is in my hands.) The ANSWER coalition and other progressive groups are calling for a boycott. Here's a picture of the scarf and more info: http://answer.pephost.org/site/News2?abbr=ANS_&page=NewsArticle&id=8821 Merde alors. I was liking their plain, fresh-brewed iced tea. I'd put lots of lemon in it and it was like sipping "our tea and lemonade." So maybe Barrista Kevin will be getting more business! Glad you got a job, Kev. Enjoy the music! And Starbucks sells some kind of tea and lemonade mixture, don't they? Yeah, that's what I had there on Joni Day. My brother calls Starbucks "Fivebucks" because whenever he brings my teen-aged niece there it costs him five bucks. I have yet to share the second half of my experience there on September 25th when SHINE was released. I have the three-hour long set list in my draft box somewhere. Three hours of Joni, sitting in some cafe, was too intense to share at the time. Imaginez-vous! Laughing and crying, I was captive on the carousel of time that felt more like a roller coaster or a jerky time machine, zipping me back and forth between the hope and the hopelessness I've witnessed thirty years. Later, alligators! Love, Patti P. in the workplace, where enrollments in Arabic courses have quadrupled in the past two years (what's so funny about peace, love and understanding another language and culture?) "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon _________________________________________________________________ Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:24:39 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: violin and left hand, njc Ms. Treegreen wrote: Perhaps someone can offer some advice. I bought my sister's twins (Bella and connie, 7 and a half years old) violins last week.. . They were asking for them, especially connie. . "I want to play the violin, I want to play the violin." **** I don't know about the left-handed business, but I have some experience with the Suzuki Method. My oldest son took violin lessons for about 3 years (six times round the seasons through nine?). You had to be very serious and disciplined (he was a wild, active child so this was a lesson in survival), and the teacher wouldn't even let you touch the violin until you learned how to hold the fake one (we made it out of a cigar box and a ruler) and the bow properly. (He'd be begging, like Connie: "I want to play the violin! I want to play the violin!") I recall this went on for at least the first two group lessons. They always start with "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star": Voila these cuties: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8DMpD29SHA The next song was, I think, "Go Tell Aunt Rhody". I'll never forget Christopher playing in the school talent show, a second-grader, all alone on the stage. I was bursting with pride and joy as he played "Twinkle". The man next to me (a stranger, but I didn't f@#k him, LOL!) elbowed me and said: "Look at this kid in his corduroy jacket with the too-long sleeves and the serious look on his face. Right out of a Norman Rockwell painting." Tears and fears and feeling proud, I told him: "That's my son." Good luck to Connie and Bella -- and their parents! Practice, practice, practice -- and patience, patience, patience. Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy 5 GB of free, password-protected online storage. http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_062008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:21:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP - --- On Tue, 6/3/08, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP > To: smurfadelica@yahoo.com, joni@smoe.org > Received: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 9:52 AM > > I got some news this morning from Chocktaw Ridge. Today > Billy Joe > > McAllister jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge. > > > > Yayee Smurph! You remembered, although it's the > *Tallahatchie* Bridge. My > year is complete now. > > Jimmy, > listening to Mama hollering out the back door > Y'all remember to wipe your feet! __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: rsc1@humboldt.edu Subject: Re: Dr. Junk Hi Bob - "Dr. Junk"? From what era is this tune? How could I have missed it? GREAT title! Thanks, Russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:34:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Dr. Junk Hi Russ, That song is circa 1967...Joni of course never released it herself but she did play it live many times. It was based on a real guy, an eccentric Dentist in North Carolina who had all of this scrap metal and the like and would even take junk & scrap in trade for dental work. As best I can tell, Joni did record a demo of the song and when she toured the UK Joe Boyd handed copies of the tape out to popular British folk acts of the day. The Ian Campbell Group picked up on Dr. Junk and included it on their 1968 release along with "The Circle Game". Most recently, Big Yellow Taxi has recorded the song and released it this year along with many other unreleased Joni-gems. You can hear a 2-minute sample of the song and its Bo Diddley beat at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/bigyellowtaxi6 And while you're there you might as well get yourself a copy (before it sells out again). Bob rsc1@humboldt.edu 06/03/2008 03:16 PM To joni@smoe.org cc Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject Re: Dr. Junk Hi Bob - "Dr. Junk"? From what era is this tune? How could I have missed it? GREAT title! 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Watch "Cooking with > Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& > NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:51:52 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP Umm. . . I think it is spelled " Billie Joe MacAllister" Hey, there's Bobbie Gentry Message Board! http://odetobobbiegentry.yuku.com/ and web site: http://www.geocities.com/odetobobbiegentry/ Pass the biscuits, please. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:21 PM To: smurfadelica@yahoo.com; joni@smoe.org; FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP - --- On Tue, 6/3/08, FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > From: FMYFL@aol.com > Subject: Re: NJC -- Billy Joe McAllister, RIP > To: smurfadelica@yahoo.com, joni@smoe.org > Received: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 9:52 AM > > I got some news this morning from Chocktaw Ridge. Today > Billy Joe > > McAllister jumped off the Tallahassee Bridge. > > > > Yayee Smurph! You remembered, although it's the > *Tallahatchie* Bridge. My > year is complete now. > > Jimmy, > listening to Mama hollering out the back door > Y'all remember to wipe your feet! __________________________________________________________________ Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:32:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: ISO Blue Tapestry Just wondering if anyone has a good copy of this CD, a live show of the UK group of the same name (now defunct, the CD is several years old). My copy has gone bad and the CD is now out of print. Please reply offlist if you can help. Bob NP: Elton John, "Midnight Creeper' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:30:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Barack is the Democratic candidate I am so happy that my hopes for a better future and healing have begun!! Jeannie ~We really thought we had a purpose We were so anxious to acheive We had hope The world held promise For a slave to liberty Freely we slaved away for something And we were bought and sold And all weI ever wanted Was just to come in from the cold~ ~Joni~ w/ little lyrical movements by me ~nj~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:13:27 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: Gilligan's Island, Stomp NJC > From: "Lori Fye" > Subject: Re: Gilligan's Island, Stomp NJC > >>But, Ginger and Maryanne? Stunning. To the point of being sexual >>icons even 40 years later. > > Sorry, I can't seem to resist: > http://www.tmz.com/2008/03/11/mary-ann-busted-with-mary-jane/ Har har. I guess my wording was poor. Although Ms. Wells is certainly not doing too bad for someone almost 70, that is clearly not the picture of a sexual icon. What I meant was that today, 40-some years after the show originally aired, if you say "Ginger and Maryanne", almost everyone will understand you're talking about the two hotties from Gilligan's Island. Gawd, that picture of Nick Nolte is too much. He reminds me of someone I saw on Telegraph Ave in Berzerkely once who was yelling at people no one else could see. Hmmm... I wonder if that was Nick Nolte. Cheers, David Eoll ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:22:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Barack is the Democratic candidate >>I am so happy that my hopes for a better future and healing have begun!! I'm not sure I see the "healing" part, the party seems pretty divided (it's easy to be big hearted when you win), but I'm glad you find hope in him. To me, he's just another politician. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:23:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Barack is the Democratic candidate Well, Michael, after all the harm and hurt we've been through with this insane war in Iraq, seeing young kids sacrificing their lives, spilling blood for money, filling the pockets of certain filthy rich and these apathetic politicians in bloody power , along with their buddy ol' pals such as certain mega-corporate CEOs and Pimps who sell Mother Earth, destroying the economy and livelihood of my fellow citizens and their children, I really cannot fathom what would happen to our Country falling down, following the same political path, we would just keeping sinking down the same dark, dirty ladder, lower and lower. Without healing, what would happen to the hurt and harm and damage done? Do you see what I mean, Michael? If you don't, I'll get more specific, if you want, so that you can try to understand by what I mean by the beginning of healing when we've reached the true beginning of survival. Shine on all the dark ladders going down, down, down, down.. And I'll be damned if I don't keep "falling up, falling up, falling up," just I hear Rickie Lee singing it up through my CD player right now and next shall be Shine . Jeannie (obviously kinda dreamy and peaceful under a starry night, under these new political circumstances, right now as I sit outside with my dogs and this beautiful healing wind is blowing our way) PS: Yes, Barack Obama is a politician, but I guarantee you with my heart and soul he's for real in his heart and soul and not just another one of them-there radiation-rose colored sun glassed politicians. We saw into each others eyes and we knew in an instant of a moment who we were and are with just one look, along with the millions of brothers and sisters who want the same and who can truly see and say it out loud, too, so that others can hear their visions of a better Country and Planet for all. Michael Flaherty wrote: >>I am so happy that my hopes for a better future and healing have begun!! I'm not sure I see the "healing" part, the party seems pretty divided (it's easy to be big hearted when you win), but I'm glad you find hope in him. To me, he's just another politician. Michael F. ~nj~ ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #92 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------