From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #86 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, May 30 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 086 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records ["Randy Remo] annoying Joni reference [Deb Messling ] NJC Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records [FMYFL@a] Joni mention in this month's Acoustic Guitar magazine [Catherine McKay ] Re: annoying Joni reference now no Joni reference and njc [Catherine McK] Re: fake lottery email (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] "We Are Joni Mitchell" [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: "We Are Joni Mitchell" [Michael Paz ] NJC Re: "We Are Joni Mitchell" [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: "We Are Joni Mitchell" [Catherine McKay ] Re: the most boring album of the year [rsc1@humboldt.edu] Re: the most boring album of the year [Jerry Notaro ] Re: annoying Joni reference ["T Peckham" ] Re: NJC What if a black man ran for president and nobody remembered? ["Do] Re: Amelia it was just a false alarm [M C ] Lost njc [] Re: Lost njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: annoying Joni reference [Monika Bogdanowicz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:56:58 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records 1) Rocktron, the company that makes the Banshee Talkbox was founded in 1983 2) Do not take CDs to the desert island. You need vinyl-just keep them out of the sun. Your turntable starts with a very large, round stone that you fashion into a flywheel for inertia. This will weigh several hundred pounds. You then power it with a smaller roller that you turn by hand. The needle is from a cactus-same as they sometimes used for 78's. This is mounted in an arm and horn that you have ingeniusly constructed from blowfish hide and bamboo. This is do-able, while making a D/A converter, laser, and a 500rpm disc spinner would pose much bigger problems. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 06:22:37 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: annoying Joni reference This from an article about blogger Emily Gould: "Like you, Joni Mitchell was extremely self-referential. Many people liked this at first, but they eventually grew tired of it. When she finally stopped writing about herself and turned her attention elsewhere, most people had already lost interest and moved on. Do you worry that the same thing will happen to you?" This seems to be the opposite of the truth. People moved on BECAUSE she stopped writing about herself, among other reasons like not appreciating her more esoteric musical turns. The article was interesting, though, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only woman on earth who hated Sex in the City. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 06:44:16 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records Randy writes: > Your turntable starts > with a very large, round stone that you fashion into a > flywheel for inertia. This will weigh several hundred pounds. > You then power it with a smaller roller that you turn by > hand. I saw that episode. The professor gets Gilligan to pedal the bamboo bike really fast. Jimmy ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4& ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:20:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Joni mention in this month's Acoustic Guitar magazine Jeffrey Pepper Rodgers interviews KT Tunstall in the current issue of Acoustic Guitar. There is a small Joni mention about halfway through: AG: Even though I hear a lot of Joni Mitchell in your background, you dont seem to use alternate tunings. TUNSTALL I definitely have a lot of Joni in my background. But I come to the table as a street player, and detuning can be a real pain in the ass when youre busking. You havent got a tuner with you and its really cold, so sometimes its hard to get your guitar back in [tune] and sounding good again. I just couldnt bother [with alternate tunings], really, and I was finding enough excitement in traditional tuning as it was. But actually, the song Im writing at the moment has a detuned E string, just down to D, which is always really nice. http://www.acousticguitar.com/article/default.aspx?articleid=22387 Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:28:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Land Lines (njc) - --- Rob Argento wrote: > Well, actually not - but close! If the only > alternative is ADSL or DSL these DO come in over > your phone line even if they do not > disrupt your telephone use. I do not know if you > can have a phone line ONLY for DSL. Many of us get > our Internet over TV-cable or > such and do then have the alternative of getting rid > of a land line telephone. I have dsl and satellite TV but i'll look into cable. Maybe I need to be ripped off by a different company for a while. It's overwhelming how many choices there are. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 07:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: annoying Joni reference now no Joni reference and njc - --- Deb Messling wrote: > I'm glad to > know I'm not the > only woman on earth who hated Sex in the City. > Make that three of us. I'm tired of stories about ridiculously wealthy people, or people who couldn't possibly make enough money to afford the clothes they wear or do the things they do, but who manage to do them anyway. Not that I want to see stories about people like me, either. But I don't get the hype. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:20:27 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: fake lottery email (njc) I've been without one longer than that and echo Victor's thoughts precisely. I get my internet via cable and have a cell. I can take my weekend naps without being awakened by some ying-yang trying to sell me something or have me answer survey questions or whatever, or as Joni would say "nobody calling me up for favors, and no one's future to decide". I still have a phone on the wall but it can only be used to call 911. Bob NP: Sufjan Stevens, "O God, Where Are You Now" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Bob NP: The Allman Bros, "Rockin' Horse" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:48:59 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: "We Are Joni Mitchell" This sounds hysterical. Are you sure it was not a lister that wrote this? Could be a Smurph production. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 29, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Attention Londoners: Lattitude 2008 will be held July 17-20 at London's Arcola Theatre and will feature a production titled "We Are Joni Mitchell" performed by the Birds of Britain, described as follows: Birds Of Britain are delighted to present 'We Are Joni Mitchell', a comedy with music set at Latitude 2008, in which three strangers meet after the suddenly cancelled appearance of their heroine Joni. Through an increasingly competitive exploration of her songs and lyrics, each seeks to prove to the others that she is the ultimate Joni authority and fan: one physically, one musically, and one Yiddishly. (warning: contains interpretative dance). Sounds interesting... Bob NP: The Allman Bros, "Rockin' Horse" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: rsc1@humboldt.edu Subject: Re: the most boring album of the year I have to say that sort of agree with Mr. Bennett on this one. I wouldn't go so far as to call it THE most boring album, but I too was completely underwhelmed by this record. Herbie did a show at the theater where I work, last fall (before the Grammy win), and, though I love his work and respect all he's accomplished, found the show to be unfocused and unremarkable, despite the obvious prowess of the musicians onstage. I did think it was cool that Herbie won, but again, winning a Grammy rarely seems based on true merit. Gus > I had not seen this-fairly recent, his review is titled: > The most boring album of the year!, April 9, 2008 > pretty harsh, if it's really him. >> I'm a professional musician. Along with Tom Scott, I started the group >> L.A Express in the 70's and performed on Joni Mitchell's albums, Court & >> Spark, Miles of Aisles, etc. This CD which won the Grammy album of the >> year is not worth buying. The musical wanderings of Herbie and the >> almost unrecognizable songs of Joni's are an exercise in musical >> futility. Herbie needs a tinkle-ectomy and most of the vocalists are >> totally underwhelming. >> Obviously, this was a politically motivated choice by NARAS!!!!! >> Max Bennett, bassist and composer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 15:04:26 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: the most boring album of the year My vote so far goes to kd lang's Watershed. Jerry NP: Janis Ian - Billie's Bones ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:10:20 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: annoying Joni reference On 5/29/08, Deb Messling wrote: > > This from an article about blogger Emily Gould . . . Hmmm, where have I been . . . (Blissfully?) unaware. Now I'll have to look her up. ;-) The article was interesting, though, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only woman on earth who hated Sex in the City. Someone finally said it! I'd never seen the show till I moved into a housesharing situation with a "Sex in the City" junkie. Gack. She also watches endless reruns of "Friends." Deliver me! Terra - -- Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss my sweet ass. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:06:26 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: NJC What if a black man ran for president and nobody remembered? Thanks David for this very interesting history. I always learn something new from our listers! Donna >>> David Eoll 5/28/2008 8:28 PM >>> Donna Binkley wrote: > Also Hillary is not the first female candidate, Geraldine Ferraro was > the first woman to run for president - at least that I know of - but I > don't think you could call her campaign really competitive. I guess > the US wasn't ready for a woman in that office at that time period. Donna, I didn't make an unqualified statement that Hillary was the first female candidate. I said "competitive", meaning she's the first woman who's had a realistic shot at actually winning it. But, she is not the first female candidate. That honor would go to Victoria Claflin Woodhull who ran as a third party candidate way back in '72. That would be 1872, before women could even vote. Numerous other women have run for president on third party tickets since then, and more than a couple have run for the nomination of one of the two major parties. Margaret Chase Smith, Republican Senator from Maine, was the first woman to run for the nomination of one of the two major parties in 1964. And as it turns out I fell prey to the media hype about Hillary's "firstness", which has been, like Obama's, slightly exagerated. I distinctly remember reading somewhere after the NH primary this year that Clinton was the first woman to win a primary. As it turns out that is false, my apologies for passing it along, and my sincerest apologies to the late Shirley Chisholm. Because, among her other firsts (first black woman elected to Congress), she is also the first woman and the first African-American to win a primary. She won three: Mississippi, Louisiana, and New Jersey. So shame on me, I should've titled my post "What if a black woman ran for president and nobody remembered". In my defense, I was very much aware of and an admirer of Mrs. Chisholm, I just didn't know she won any primaries. And two of them were among the bunch that were being discussed. Gerry Ferraro actually didn't run for president, she ran for VP with Walter Mondale at the top of the ticket in 1984. That does however give her the distinction of being the first woman to appear on a major party's ticket in a general election for president. Having said all that, both Clinton and Obama have gone further in a presidential primary race than any other woman or African-American before them. And, barring unforseens, one of them will be the first black or female presidential nominee from a major party. And I think that's exciting. Respectfully, David Eoll ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) From: M C Subject: Re: Amelia it was just a false alarm > I think bringing comfort is one of the greatest > things we humans get from > music - and Joni has given bucket loads of comfort > via her music. Another > good reason to belong to JMDL. > Anita Tedder Amen to that. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:06:42 +1200 From: Subject: Lost njc Mark wrote: > But, Honey, what you wrote [about "Lost"] makes it sound like > you are still > watching it! LOL! To which Catherine replied: > My daughter watches it. I found something that might help some of those more "obsessive" watchers of Lost, IMO one of the most inane shows of late... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK4qEHmnJZE Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 22:03:16 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Lost njc I missed this thread somehow but I think LOST is one of the most brilliant shows in the past decade. But I understand, its not for everyone... On May 29, 2008, at 5:06 PM, wrote: > Mark wrote: > >> But, Honey, what you wrote [about "Lost"] makes it sound like >> you are still >> watching it! LOL! > > To which Catherine replied: > >> My daughter watches it. > > I found something that might help some of those more "obsessive" > watchers > of Lost, IMO one of the most inane shows of late... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK4qEHmnJZE > > > Hell ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 19:52:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: annoying Joni reference Well, the way I see it, you can make any excuse you want for why some people don't listen to Joni. This just seems like some excuse in a way to almost insult Joni. When it comes down to it (just as with any artist) Joni is just not for everyone. Her music will hit you or it won't, just as anybody else. It is as simple as that. -Monika, a fan of Sex and the City who is seeing the movie tomorrow Deb Messling wrote: This from an article about blogger Emily Gould: "Like you, Joni Mitchell was extremely self-referential. Many people liked this at first, but they eventually grew tired of it. When she finally stopped writing about herself and turned her attention elsewhere, most people had already lost interest and moved on. Do you worry that the same thing will happen to you?" This seems to be the opposite of the truth. People moved on BECAUSE she stopped writing about herself, among other reasons like not appreciating her more esoteric musical turns. The article was interesting, though, and I'm glad to know I'm not the only woman on earth who hated Sex in the City. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #86 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------