From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #83 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, May 27 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 083 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: njc sydney pollack dies ["T Peckham" ] Tom Waits njc [Garret ] Most listened too njc [Garret ] Re: The First Album 40 years on [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records [Jerry Notar] Amelia it was just a false alarm [Dave Blackburn ] Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records vljc at this point, I'm afraid [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Amelia it was just a false alarm [Monika Bogdanowicz ] DJRD fatted flake & sizzle [Michel BYRNE ] Re: Tom Waits njc [Michael Paz ] Re: Tom Waits njc [Michael Paz ] Re: njc Jenny Goodspeed [chuck eisenhardt ] Re: njc Jenny Goodspeed [Michael Paz ] NJC - UK Jonifest 2008 ["Donna Binkley" ] Re:The First Album 40 years on [Warrenkeith91354@aol.com] Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records now njc whatsover [Catherine McKay ] Re: The First Album 40 years on [Michael Paz ] Happy Anniversary !!!! (NJC) [Michael Paz ] Re: The First Album 40 years on ["Mark Angelo" ] Re: Happy Anniversary !!!! (NJC) [Victor Johnson ] njc, Bush-McCain Challenge tomorrow [Patti Parlette ] Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records [mia _ Subject: Re: njc sydney pollack dies One of my favorite directors, and always very watchable as an actor too. I was surprised to read that he was originally from Indiana; I always just assumed he was a born and bred New Yorker--tho he did move there just out of high school, according to the obit I read. I have no idea if this is true, but he always seemed to me to be a gentleman of the sort not often seen in Hollywood. I'll miss his performances and the films he might have been involved in as a writer, director, or producer. Terra http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g3IGUlRbuhYdVZ1vkPwH2OYUgD9gD90TNVDG0 On 5/26/08, Vince Lavieri wrote: > just announced that he died tonight > - -- Note to any and all govt. agencies who might be looking in: You can kiss my sweet ass. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:16:44 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Tom Waits njc I am insanely excited!!! Just got tickets to see Tom Waits. I'll see Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen within weeks of each other. I'll probably starve given the price of these tickets, but at least i'll be entertained! Now if only Joni would announce a Dublin show.... GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:58:49 +0100 From: Garret Subject: Most listened too njc I like these lists. They always remind me of songs that i love but have not visited recently. On my lastfm profile - http://www.last.fm/user/mcdermottgl/ - my most listened to songs are: 1. Alela Diane - Tired Feet 2. Alela Diane - The Pirate's Gospel 3. Jens Lekman - Pocketful of Money 3. The National, Fake Empire 3. Alela Diane, The Rifle 6. Alela Diane, Foreign Tongue 7. Alela Diane, Something's Gone Awry 7. Jens Lekman, Black Cab 9. Alela Diane, Oh! My Mama 9. Alela Diane Clickety Clack This really just reflects my recent interest in Alela Diane's album, The Pirate's Gospel. A lot of Shine features in my top fifty. Joni's songs tend not to make the very top because she has a lot of songs that i listen to, whereas someone like Alela Diane has 1 album. If i listen to Alela Diane's album 20 times, she makes the cut. If i listen to 20 Joni albums it's likely to be spread across many years worth of her music. So, my top listened to artists are, according to my profile: 1. Joni Mitchell 2. Devendra Banhart 3. Jens Lekman 4. Alela Diane 5. Patti Smith 6. Bjork 7. The National 8. Final Fantasy 9. The Magnetic Fields 10. The Decemberists. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:37:03 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on Hey Jeff. Just loved your musings on STAS. I adore this album too. I used the line, "Beware of the power of moons" on my wallpaper for I Had A King with a wedding photo of Joni and Chuck as the backdrop. It is those gems that stay with me the most from Joni's songs. That's why I always include a line that stands out to me from the song. That song broke my heart when I first heard. It still does. I felt everything Joni must have went through in that relationship. That feeling of being trapped. Yes, of course, I can't help but sing along to Night In The City. I never thought I liked that song much but I really can't dislike any Joni song. They are all well crafted and I just find myself singing along anyway (in private, of course). The Pirate of Penance reminds me of early Joan Baez who I was starting to get into just before I discovered Joni. I still like that old style of folk. Joni has explained that folk music in North America up to that point had been based on old English style folk music consisting of tragic stories. I'm a sucker for the tragic. I think Night In The City and STAS were included to give some balance to a terribly, terribly sad album. As an album, STAS is the one most likely to bring me to tears. As for the thread of which album I listened to in full last, I usually do listen to Joni's albums in full. I rarely just pick one track and I NEVER put songs on repeat. That would just kill my enjoyment for them. One thing that I might do is make up a compilation and rearrange the songs but not listen to the one song over and over in a single listening. Thanks again for your thoughts on STAS. Mark in Sydney NP Night In The City (Radio City Music Hall - 1974) - JM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:16:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records vljc at this point, I'm afraid David Eoll wrote:StaS is one of my favorite albums, bar none. Serious desert island material. Actually, there's a serious flaw in that whole desert island top 5 concept. How will you play them? Unless you also have a lifetime supply of batteries and a cd player that won't crap the bed after a year like they usually do these days. And would you really want that many batteries on your island? What would you do with them? Wouldn't they find their way into your water supply? I think the best you could hope for is to be stuck with a Victrola and some decent 78s. But, that would pretty much preclude Joni or anyone else from her era or later. When did they stop making 78s? I guess some good Bessie Smith, or Satchmo, or Chuck Berry, or something like that wouldn't be too bad. Actually, if I were stranded on a desert island with any kind of musical anything, I'd hope for a Martin and a box of D'Addario strings. A man after my own heart. Exactly the reason why I never play the desert island game. The only way that whole thing would work would be if you were deserted on Gilligan's Island, where they always seem to find a way to make modern conveniences out of tropical plants and they have an endless supply of the same clothes that never wear out and apparently of razors as well, because they're never dirty and their hair is always just right. And yet, they can't get off the island. Or you could be stuck on the "Lost" island, where you would probably end up wanting to kill yourself after a while just to get the hell out of there. Come to think of it, I don't like lists at all anyway. I don't even like making grocery lists, which explains why sometimes I end up coming home with a lot of groceries but having forgotten the one thing I really, really needed. I couldn't even play the top whatevers on your I-pod because i-tunes on my computer counts what any of us has played,and my daughter likes to listen to certain music OVER and OVER again. And I usually put it on shuffle anyway because I like to be surprised. I do know that Shine was the last Joni album I played from start to finish. I did play that over and over when I first got it, but that has simmered down now, to the point where I'm probably ready to listen to it again. Once, I think. You could always make your own musical instruments on your desert island. I've just been through helping my son with a physics project, building a thing that is sort of like a guitar or a banjo, made from a cookie tin and scrap wood. It turned out not too bad, although trying to make the tuning pegs was a bugger. Trying to make something out of cheap and available supplies means you can't use professional tuning heads, which are pretty complicated and expensive things that I now appreciate much more. So what we ended up using was some eyelet screws which makes tuning kind of fragile and precarious. However, I think we did a fairly decent job for people who had no idea what we were doing, and it's enough to make me think about building other musical instruments just for the hell of it. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:31:09 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Most listened too njc These are great. I checked my iTunes for my most popular. I was a bit surprised at some. But then I almost always listen on Random Shuffle. Looking Up Quintet [Company] Elegies: A Song Cycle False Start And Miles Davis Jeff Buckley Live At Sin-E (Disc 1) Dwight Ave., Natick, Massachusetts Betty Buckley and Christian Borle Elegies: A Song Cycle Monologue - Musical Chairs Jeff Buckley Live At Sin-I Peggy Hewitt and Mystery del Giorno Christian Borle, Carolee Carmello, and Michael Rupert Elegies: A Song Cycle Walk On By 4:34 Cyndi Lauper At Last Dea Speranza 5:41 Gino Vannelli Canto "Cafe Days" 0:15 Jeff Buckley Live At Sin-E (Disc 1) Second Chance 3:06 Trisha Yearwood Inside Out The Best Is Yet To Come 3:42 Diane Schuur In Tribute Fontainebleau! foret Immense Et Solitaire... Je L'ai Vue (Don Carlos) Domingo Verdi-Puccini "Fabulous Time For A Guinness" Jeff Buckley Live At Sin-E (Disc 1) Joe Papp Keith Byron Kirk, Christian Borle and Michael Rupert Elegies: A Song Cycle Mark's All-Male Thanksgiving Michael Rupert Elegies: A Song Cycle Wild Is The Wind Barbra Streisand The Movie Album Puccini - Cortese Damigella (Manon Lescaut) Domingo Verdi-Puccini Monologue - The Suckiest Water Jeff Buckley Live At Sin-I Monologue - Walk Through Walls Jeff Buckley Live At Sin-I Sleeper Joan Baez Dark Chords On A Big Guitar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:36:33 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records A guitar hooked up to a Banshee Talkbox. Jerry >> From: "Jeff Hankins" >> Subject: The First Album 40 years on >> >> 2 What IS that siren thing on 'Nathan La Freneer'? It's an instrument? > > Electric guitar. > >> Is Joni playing it?. 4 decades on, you'd have thought I'd have bothered to >> find >> out. > > Unless I'm mistaken, its David Crosby. His sole non-producer > contribution to the album, I think. Actually, he claims to have made > few contributions even as a producer other than starting the tape > machine rolling and letting Joni do her thing. I think I read somewhere > that arranging for himself to be the producer on that album was really > just a sneaky way to allow Joni free reign as a musician, a pretty rare > opportunity for an unknown artist on a debut album. If that's true, > then thank you, David. Hell, they didn't even let Laura Nyro play piano > on her debut album. > > StaS is one of my favorite albums, bar none. Serious desert island > material. Actually, there's a serious flaw in that whole desert island > top 5 concept. How will you play them? Unless you also have a lifetime > supply of batteries and a cd player that won't crap the bed after a year > like they usually do these days. And would you really want that many > batteries on your island? What would you do with them? Wouldn't they > find their way into your water supply? I think the best you could hope > for is to be stuck with a Victrola and some decent 78s. But, that would > pretty much preclude Joni or anyone else from her era or later. When > did they stop making 78s? I guess some good Bessie Smith, or Satchmo, > or Chuck Berry, or something like that wouldn't be too bad. > > Actually, if I were stranded on a desert island with any kind of musical > anything, I'd hope for a Martin and a box of D'Addario strings. (I > wouldn't mind being stuck there with Joni, but she might not be so > thrilled.) Some sort of female companion would be essential, or it > would just plain suck, guitar or no guitar. I'd end up just playing the > blues. Of course, I might end up singing the blues even if there were a > woman on the island, if she was on the other side of the island wanting > nothing to do with me. It'd be just my sort of luck. > > Yeah, now that I've thought it over, I'll never wear a life preserver again. > > Peace, > David ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:42:56 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Amelia it was just a false alarm Brilliantly dissected Mark S. I was going to say simplistically that each time Joni/Amelia thought they had found love it turned out to be a false alarm, but your stanza by stanza reading is much richer and more cogent. Thanks. And I also concur with your Otis reading: The golden (young, beautiful and tanned) dive into the pool as the fatted (the fat but with the extra connotation of a pig being fed to gain weight for good ham) flake (sunburn) and sizzle in their mink oil (not sunscreen but really expensive rare oil inferring the person's wealth). It's such an exploding line! As is the Grand Parade of Cellulite, a line you can never get out of your mind once planted. Thanks too to Mark Angelo for his deep readings of late. This is why this list is so vibrant; astute minds taking the trouble to write at length about brilliant work. cheers to all, Dave Mark wrote: Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 12:02:22 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Amelia it was just a false alarm - - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Angelo" To: "jonipeople" Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 8:43 AM Subject: Amelia it was just a false alarm > Ok along with Michel and his bewilderment over the "fatted flake" > line, I > too must confess to a line that has always puzzled me. It's all the > more > puzzling as it is one of my favorite Joni songs and one that I can > most > relate to - Amelia. > > WHAT is she referring to when at the end o every verse, when she > states > "Amelia it was just a false alarm". > > This is another song that it took me years to fully comprehend the very conundrum that puzzles you, Mark. Disclaimer: This is my take on it. You will probably get more than one. Everybody sees Joni's songs in their own way. And again, my apologies to those who have seen my take on this before. To me, the song 'Amelia' is all about searching for meaning or fulfillment or happiness or whatever you want to call it. Joni begins the song with a description of the 6 jet planes, seeing them as a possible signpost or omen, 'the hexagram of the heavens'. But in the end, they are only 6 jet planes. Not a sign drawn in the sky pointing in a particular direction or representing the strings on her guitar. It is a random occurrnence. A false alarm. The song continues with Joni describing how travelling around (or running way, depending on your point of view) may find some answers to her quest. But 'life becomes a travelogue of picture postcard charms' and 'where some have found their paradise, others just come to harm'. So wandering around from place to place is not an answer either. Another false alarm. Romantic love looks like a good road to happiness and fulfillment. Maybe she will find some meaning to her life in love. But, again, even though she wishes that her lover 'was here tonight', he has asked her to 'kindly stay away' forcing her to 'hide the hurt as the road leads cursed and charmed'. Later she says that 'looking down on everything' she 'crashed into his arms'. Romantic love seems almost like an accident here, a random occurrence that she latched onto in a desperate attempt to find meaning and prove that she could love. 'Maybe I've never really loved, I guess that is the truth, I've spent my whole life in clouds at icy altitudes.' But it has failed to give her the answers or happiness she is looking for. Yet another false alarm. As far as Amelia is concerned, her bid for fame and immortality, though successful, ends with her becoming 'a ghost of aviation' having been 'swallowed by the sky'. 'Like Icarus ascending on beautiful foolish arms' her wings somehow melted and she disappeared, never to be heard of again. Her attempt at trying to circle the globe failed and cost her her life. Is immortality, that 'dream to fly' that Joni shares with her, worth that sacrifice? 'Oh Amelia, it was just a false alarm.' Finally, Joni dreams 'of 747s over geometric farms' while sleeping on the 'strange pillows of my wanderlust' at the Cactus Tree Motel. The dreams, the name of the motel are not, in reality, any kind of pattern or sign. They are just dreams and false alarms. She has not found fulfillment, she has not discovered any pattern or thread of meaning in her life. No magical signposts to point the way or tell her she is on the right track. Her wanderlust and her desire to love have only brought her false alarms. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 09:27:11 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: njc Jenny Goodspeed Just to be mentioned in the same sentence with Jenny Goodspeed and all these Monsters of Song is a great honor in itself, especially when all of them are songwriters in their own write. And I don't share the songs I have written for whatever silly reason and prefer to sing songs of others. I checked out the video today and loved it, but all it did was make me homesick to sing and play with my friends listed. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 22, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Chuck Eisenhardt wrote: I imagine it's possible that some jonilistas are still yet to hear and see Jenny, and so I suggest that y'all 'run don't walk' to her myspace and jennygoodspeed.com and check out, for example, her video of 'Jonah' grabbed recently at Shelburne Falls, and check some of the quality samples of her posted work. I cannot get too effusive in praising Jenny's writing and performing. She's the meow. Jenny is, like Sherelle, and Kay Ashley, and Bry Thomas, and Lahm, and Kate Bennett, and Victor, and Paz, and Claudia, and Henning and Christina, and SueMac, and Marian, and CoversMan and all others I forget just now to mention' and all past and future contributors, whether muscian or not so much, who grace this list with their presence. And Les. But I digress. Check out Jenny Goodspeed. ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records vljc at this point, I'm afraid Catherine McKay wrote: Or you could be stuck on the "Lost" island, where you would probably end up wanting to kill yourself after a while just to get the hell out of there. ------------ Well, before killing myself I'd hang out with Sawyer. A lot. I'd push Kate onto Jack to get her out of the way. Catherine McKay wrote: You could always make your own musical instruments on your desert island. I've just been through helping my son with a physics project, building a thing that is sort of like a guitar or a banjo, made from a cookie tin and scrap wood. It turned out not too bad, although trying to make the tuning pegs was a bugger. Trying to make something out of cheap and available supplies means you can't use professional tuning heads, which are pretty complicated and expensive things that I now appreciate much more. So what we ended up using was some eyelet screws which makes tuning kind of fragile and precarious. However, I think we did a fairly decent job for people who had no idea what we were doing, and it's enough to make me think about building other musical instruments just for the hell of it. - ----------- I hit up an open mic night last night and saw something very, very interesting. There was this one musician who had two cigar box guitars. They were little cigar boxes connected to a neck (on fretless and one with frets) with strings. I was cynical before he plugged it in to how it would sound. But my cynicism was for no reason because those two guitars sounded good. Real good. He played some mean blues on them with a slide. He said he was going to start making those types of guitars. -Monika - --------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 07:39:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Amelia it was just a false alarm Well I won't say any more as far as dissecting this lyric goes since it has been so thoroughly analyzed. However, I will say one thing. This line is something that would qualify as an "exploding line." Joni manages to capture an entire feeling in just those few words within the context of Amelia. It almost breaks my heart for her or anyone else who comes upon these "false alarms" time after time. And anytime something comes into view for me personally and turns out to be something entirely different or the hope is squashed or whatever it may be, I always sing this line in my head. "Amelia it was just a false alarm." It brings me some comfort personally. -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:24:26 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Tom Waits njc Glad you're going to see Tom in Dublin. I imagine it will be spectacular! It definitely looks to be the highlight of my summer, seeing Tom Waits. Oddly enough, two days later I'm going to Dave Matthews... it will just be a music filled week/summer! Victor On May 27, 2008, at 4:16 AM, Garret wrote: > I am insanely excited!!! Just got tickets to see Tom Waits. I'll > see Tom > Waits and Leonard Cohen within weeks of each other. I'll probably > starve > given the price of these tickets, but at least i'll be entertained! > Now if > only Joni would announce a Dublin show.... > GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:24:54 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: DJRD fatted flake & sizzle Many thanks to the two Marks! Yes of course - verbs! How obvious - suddenly, after more than 20 years! :-) I was similarly slow about picking up on the American anthem references in DJRD (the song), especially 'by the dawn's early light' at the end. (My excuse is that I'm European - sorry!) But it thrills me all the more whenever I hear this superb song, how brilliantly she worked those lines in musically. Thanks again guys. M _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:55:33 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Tom Waits njc Hi Garret Will be in Galway just on the other side of Ireland on July 18. Come take a road trip. Have fun at Tom Waits and tell him the guys in my band said hi! My friend Clint Maedgen )our new lead singer and sax player officially) and Ben Jaffe (our creative director) met Tom when they were on tour after Katrina. They got to spend a bunch of time with him and Clint called me shortly after that happened and gushed for an hour. He still talks about calling him and trying to get together with him. I wish he would. They probably would write some amazing music. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 27, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Victor Johnson wrote: Glad you're going to see Tom in Dublin. I imagine it will be spectacular! It definitely looks to be the highlight of my summer, seeing Tom Waits. Oddly enough, two days later I'm going to Dave Matthews... it will just be a music filled week/summer! Victor On May 27, 2008, at 4:16 AM, Garret wrote: > I am insanely excited!!! Just got tickets to see Tom Waits. I'll > see Tom > Waits and Leonard Cohen within weeks of each other. I'll probably > starve > given the price of these tickets, but at least i'll be entertained! > Now if > only Joni would announce a Dublin show.... > GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:00:50 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Tom Waits njc Hi Garret Will be in Galway just on the other side of Ireland on July 18. Come take a road trip. Have fun at Tom Waits and tell him the guys in my band said hi! My friend Clint Maedgen )our new lead singer and sax player officially) and Ben Jaffe (our creative director) met Tom when they were on tour after Katrina. They got to spend a bunch of time with him and Clint called me shortly after that happened and gushed for an hour. He still talks about calling him and trying to get together with him. I wish he would. They probably would write some amazing music. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 27, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Victor Johnson wrote: Glad you're going to see Tom in Dublin. I imagine it will be spectacular! It definitely looks to be the highlight of my summer, seeing Tom Waits. Oddly enough, two days later I'm going to Dave Matthews... it will just be a music filled week/summer! Victor On May 27, 2008, at 4:16 AM, Garret wrote: > I am insanely excited!!! Just got tickets to see Tom Waits. I'll > see Tom > Waits and Leonard Cohen within weeks of each other. I'll probably > starve > given the price of these tickets, but at least i'll be entertained! > Now if > only Joni would announce a Dublin show.... > GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:30:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: chuck eisenhardt Subject: Re: njc Jenny Goodspeed They also serve who sing as well as can be, and teach and preserve the songs of other writers. and God loves us just as much. Parvarotti never wrote a goddamn thing....and Verdi couldn't sing. ChuckE -----Original Message----- From: Michael Paz Sent: May 27, 2008 10:27 AM To: Chuck Eisenhardt Cc: joni@smoe.org, Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: njc Jenny Goodspeed >Just to be mentioned ... Michael Pazmichael@thepazgroup.com Tour ManagerPreservation Hall Jazz Bandhttp://www.preservationhall.com On May 22, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Chuck Eisenhardt wrote: I imagine it's possible that some jonilistas are still yet to hear and see Jenny, and so I suggest that y'all 'run don't walk' to her myspace and jennygoodspeed.com and check out, for example, her video of 'Jonah' grabbed recently at Shelburne Falls, and check some of the quality samples of her posted work. I cannot get too effusive in praising Jenny's writing and performing. She's the meow. Jenny is, like Sherelle, and Kay Ashley, and Bry Thomas, and Lahm, and Kate Bennett, and Victor, and Paz, and Claudia, and Henning and Christina, and SueMac, and Marian, and CoversMan and all others I forget just now to mention' and all past and future contributors, whether muscian or not so much, who grace this list with their presence. And Les. But I digress. Check out Jenny Goodspeed. ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:58:47 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: njc Jenny Goodspeed Phew! Thanks! I think. LMAO! Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 27, 2008, at 3:30 PM, chuck eisenhardt wrote: They also serve who sing as well as can be, and teach and preserve the songs of other writers. and God loves us just as much. Parvarotti never wrote a goddamn thing....and Verdi couldn't sing. ChuckE -----Original Message----- From: Michael Paz Sent: May 27, 2008 10:27 AM To: Chuck Eisenhardt Cc: joni@smoe.org, Jenny Goodspeed Subject: Re: njc Jenny Goodspeed > Just to be mentioned ... Michael Pazmichael@thepazgroup.com Tour ManagerPreservation Hall Jazz Bandhttp://www.preservationhall.com On May 22, 2008, at 7:55 PM, Chuck Eisenhardt wrote: I imagine it's possible that some jonilistas are still yet to hear and see Jenny, and so I suggest that y'all 'run don't walk' to her myspace and jennygoodspeed.com and check out, for example, her video of 'Jonah' grabbed recently at Shelburne Falls, and check some of the quality samples of her posted work. I cannot get too effusive in praising Jenny's writing and performing. She's the meow. Jenny is, like Sherelle, and Kay Ashley, and Bry Thomas, and Lahm, and Kate Bennett, and Victor, and Paz, and Claudia, and Henning and Christina, and SueMac, and Marian, and CoversMan and all others I forget just now to mention' and all past and future contributors, whether muscian or not so much, who grace this list with their presence. And Les. But I digress. Check out Jenny Goodspeed. ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:10:58 -0500 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: NJC - UK Jonifest 2008 Bob Muller, Less Ross and Lieve and anyone else out there who's going: Could you contact me off list about UK fest? I'm about to make travel arrangements to arrive in London a few days before Fest begins and was wondering what all of your plans are. Maybe we could hook up for a meal or a drink? Donna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:09:03 EDT From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Subject: Re:The First Album 40 years on Jeff, The instrument in question is listed in the liner notes as a banshee...played by Lee Keefer and Joni Mitchell. Jonily Yours, Warren Keith What IS that siren thing on 'Nathan La Freneer'? It's an instrument? Is Joni playing it?. 4 decades on, you'd have thought I'd have bothered to find out **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:25:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records now njc whatsover - --- Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Catherine McKay wrote: Or > you could be stuck on the "Lost" island, where you > would probably end up wanting to kill yourself after > a while just to get the hell out of there. > ------------ > Well, before killing myself I'd hang out with > Sawyer. A lot. I'd push Kate onto Jack to get her > out of the way. > > I know a lot of you like that show, but it annoys the crap out of me. I didn't watch it from the beginning and maybe, if I had, I would have gotten into it more. But I doubt it. No matter how good a show may be at the beginning, there comes a time when they should just stop. Kate should just make up her freakin' mind. Does she want the bad guy who's lots of laughs or the cute doctor? Just get on with it, honey. And how many plot twists can there be before it just gets to be a pain in the arse? I don't CARE whether they make it off the island or not! There. I feel better now. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:37:50 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: NJC - UK Jonifest 2008 Hey Donna Im still unsure as to whether I'm going but if you are in London a few days before then it'd be great to meet up with the London crew! Hope you are well Zooby 2008/5/27 Donna Binkley : > Bob Muller, Less Ross and Lieve and anyone else out there who's going: > > Could you contact me off list about UK fest? I'm about to make travel > arrangements to arrive in London a few days before Fest begins and was > wondering what all of your plans are. Maybe we could hook up for a meal or a > drink? > > Donna > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:49:07 +0100 From: "Jeff Hankins" Subject: Fw: Re:The First Album 40 years on - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Hankins To: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:47 PM Subject: Re: Re:The First Album 40 years on Thanks Warren. Websters Dictionary: Banshee Ban"shee\, Banshie \Ban"shie\, n. [Gael. bean-shith fairy; Gael. & Ir. bean woman + Gael. sith fairy.] A supernatural being supposed by the Irish and Scotch peasantry to warn a family of the speedy death of one of its members, by wailing or singing in a mournful voice under the windows of the house. So it's NOT an instrument being played on 'Nathan La Freneer'? Just Joni & Lee Keefer making waily, mournful, warning sounds electronically manoeuvered to simulate the haunting sirens of the ghostly garden?? Or what? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org ; jeffhankins@btinternet.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re:The First Album 40 years on Jeff, The instrument in question is listed in the liner notes as a banshee...played by Lee Keefer and Joni Mitchell. Jonily Yours, Warren Keith What IS that siren thing on 'Nathan La Freneer'? It's an instrument? Is Joni playing it?. 4 decades on, you'd have thought I'd have bothered to find out - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:11:48 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: The last time I saw Joni The last time I saw Joni was at the Oakdale Theater in Wallingford, CT, eight years ago today. When I looked at the calendar today and saw "May 27" I knew it was some special day. Many of you must be celebrating your own Joni anniversary these days from the BSN tour. Cheers! Let's laugh and toast to Joni! I'll never forget the excitement and the anticipation. Forget fifty-fifty fire and ice! We were sitting there waiting for our sugar to show, listening to the orchestra, sharing Joni stories (my best friend's daughter said: "Whoa, Mom, Patti's a WAY bigger Joni fan than YOU are!" LOL) and then, all of a sudden she was at the edge of the curtain and she walked on the stage! OMG! We gasped/shrieked and grabbed each other and said: "THERE SHE IS!" (LOL...we both had bruise marks the next day.) I'm getting heebie-jeebie goose-bumpy trembling in my bones just thinking of it. I was not a member of the JMDL at the time, but later when I met Ashara she told me she was there with a bunch of other listers. I wonder who they were. I wonder if any of us brushed against each other and we both apologized. I read a review of the show by someone here once, but haven't been able to find it today. I'd climb every mountain, forge every stream, to see her again. Love, Patti P. P.S. I love how some of you are helping Monika. Way to be, guys! We are family. _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:16:45 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on My mom always use to say. "She screamed like a banshee". She was Irish and Scotish best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 27, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Jeff Hankins wrote: - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Hankins To: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:47 PM Subject: Re: Re:The First Album 40 years on Thanks Warren. Websters Dictionary: Banshee Ban"shee\, Banshie \Ban"shie\, n. [Gael. bean-shith fairy; Gael. & Ir. bean woman + Gael. sith fairy.] A supernatural being supposed by the Irish and Scotch peasantry to warn a family of the speedy death of one of its members, by wailing or singing in a mournful voice under the windows of the house. So it's NOT an instrument being played on 'Nathan La Freneer'? Just Joni & Lee Keefer making waily, mournful, warning sounds electronically manoeuvered to simulate the haunting sirens of the ghostly garden?? Or what? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Warrenkeith91354@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org ; jeffhankins@btinternet.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:09 PM Subject: Re:The First Album 40 years on Jeff, The instrument in question is listed in the liner notes as a banshee...played by Lee Keefer and Joni Mitchell. Jonily Yours, Warren Keith What IS that siren thing on 'Nathan La Freneer'? It's an instrument? Is Joni playing it?. 4 decades on, you'd have thought I'd have bothered to find out - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:06:11 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Happy Anniversary !!!! (NJC) Happy Anniversary to Claudia and John who came together at the world famous Pazfest back in May of 2000. Imagine if just one of them would have decided to go see Joni play on the Both Sides Now tour in Boston area instead of coming here. Things might be very different. Anyway I had a wonderful chat with John yesterday and he reminded me of this fact so I am taking advantage of the situation and giving them a shout out. I wish you all the best things in the world especially love and time to enjoy it. With deep love and affection for you both, Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:28:35 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on I knew a cat in Tucson, as in a feline, that roamed around a local garden center, whose name was "Banshee" as she vocal to the extreme. Joni has (as of TTT) 4 cats so this counts as Joni Content for the purists of this list btw. ;-) Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com wrote: My mom always use to say. "She screamed like a banshee". She was Irish and Scotish - -Mark in Florida ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:31:05 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Happy Anniversary !!!! (NJC) Happy Anniversary! I had so much fun hanging with you in Georgetown a year or so ago. Hope to see you again soon! best, Victor On May 27, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > Happy Anniversary to Claudia and John who came together at the world > famous Pazfest back in May of 2000. Imagine if just one of them would > have decided to go see Joni play on the Both Sides Now tour in Boston > area instead of coming here. Things might be very different. Anyway I > had a wonderful chat with John yesterday and he reminded me of this > fact so I am taking advantage of the situation and giving them a shout > out. I wish you all the best things in the world especially love and > time to enjoy it. > > With deep love and affection for you both, > > Paz > > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 00:41:52 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Bush-McCain Challenge tomorrow Tomorrow moveon.org is sponsoring 330 "Bush-McCain Challenges" across the U.S.A., and I'm going out on an arbutus limb to host one. Shine on lousy leadership. Strong and wrong! http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=121&id=&search_distance=30&search_zip=06269&submit=Search I've told you about my quick lunch stand before, (Proud-headed Queen) Lizzie's Curbside Cuisine. Lizzie is cool. She once said: "Oh, yeah. Aren't you the President of the Joni Mitchell Fan Club or something?" I just laughed and said: "Nah, just the local loco chapter." She played some Joni CDs I lent her on November 7th, and even let me write "Happy Birthday Joni Mitchell" on her big white menu board. She says she'll have an all-Joni menu next November 7th. ANYWAY, yeah, our challenge will be right next to Lizzie's. It's a swinging hot spot! http://www.lizziescurbside.com/curbside_specials.php I'll be bringing an armload of bright balloons (red, white & blue, or maybe just blue & white) or maybe I should get crimson crystal beads to becccckkkkkon and....ooh!....just had another idea: my peace flags! Yeah! I should go iron them now, and the tablecloth. And music....sweet music! At the 5th anniversary of the Iraq war vigil we played John Lennon. Tomorrow is more fun and festive, so I think Living With War would be good. Rocking in the free world. We'll wink at total strangers passing and invite them to take the challenge. We'll be handing out little prizes (candy and stickers) and flyers. Most of all, it's just a good chance to bring like-minded people together and start gearing up for the next few months. (Merde! I should have ordered little screwdrivers with "We won't get screwed again" imprinted on them, but it's very late when I walk in with THAT idea. Yeah, it's too late, babies. Babies, it's too late.) And the streets will be paved with passersby And pigeons fly And papers lie Waiting to blow away In morning UConntown Moveon.org gives so many directions and rules and regulations (who needs them?) that it makes most people nervous, but the last event went well so I'll play it cool, play it cool. Come up to my campus and I'll show my best reci-peace! Gettin' all ooby shooby, Patti P. P.S. You can find one in your neighborhood, and view the 30-second ad (name that tune, Jerry and Vince!) at http://moveon.org/ _________________________________________________________________ Give to a good cause with every e-mail. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?souce=EML_WL_ GoodCause ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 01:21:27 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Dr. Paul McCartney By KIM MARTINEAU | Courant Staff Writer May 27, 2008 NEW HAVEN  - The band played "Hey Jude" as ex-Beatle Paul McCartney stepped on stage Monday to accept an honorary Doctor of Music degree from Yale University. In a short tribute, Yale President Richard Levin evoked some of the songwriter's most memorable lines. "There is no one compares with you," Levin told McCartney, riffing on the Beatles classic, "In My Life." "Your songs awakened a generation, giving a fresh sound to rock, roll, rhythm and blues." "Here, there, and everywhere," Levin continued, citing another McCartney hit. "You have pushed the boundaries of the familiar to create new classics. We admire your musical genius and your generous support of worthy causes." Ha. The President of Yale has OLQD, too! Photo beauties are here: http://www.courant.com/news/local/hc-ctyalegraduation0527.artmay27,0,2910312.story Man, these graduates are lucky. Like the Wesleyan grads who got to hear Obama speak to them. (One film studies grad has "Wes we can" painted on her robe.) I have no idea who my commencement speaker was, but we had a great party when the ceremony was over. I hope Mikey Paz had a great party, too, and that Papa Paz did not burst with joy and pride. Love, Patti P., whose first musical love was Paul (she loves you, yeah, yeah yeah) _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_family_safety_052008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:41:28 -0500 From: mia _ Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records << What IS that siren thing on 'Nathan La Freneer'? It's an instrument? Electric guitar.>> The album insert states: Lee Keefer and Joni Mitchell on banshee. But this brings up another question - what the heck is a banshee? And why does it take two people to play it? <> David, this really cracked me up! :D Mia _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:53:09 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records now njc whatsover - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine McKay" > > I know a lot of you like that show, but it annoys the > crap out of me. Hi Catherine. I agree with you. Travis likes and watches Lost. I thought it was just too much from the very beginning. But, Honey, what you wrote below makes it sound like you are still watching it! LOL! I didn't watch it from the beginning > and maybe, if I had, I would have gotten into it more. > But I doubt it. No matter how good a show may be at > the beginning, there comes a time when they should > just stop. > > Kate should just make up her freakin' mind. Does she > want the bad guy who's lots of laughs or the cute > doctor? Just get on with it, honey. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:13:25 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records Right you are. There wasn't much in the way of liner notes, lyrics notwithstanding, and they were stuck up in the corner, so I missed them. I was wrong about David Crosby, apparently. So, his only contribution was as *cough* producer *cough**cough*. I can't remember where I read that, but I think he said flat out that he was pretty much producer in name only. He basically let her make her own album the way she wanted. (Or am I wrong about that too?) :) Love, David mia _ wrote: > << What IS that siren thing on 'Nathan La Freneer'? It's an instrument? > > Electric guitar.>> > > The album insert states: Lee Keefer and Joni Mitchell on banshee. But this brings up another > question - what the heck is a banshee? And why does it take two people to play it? > > <> > > David, this really cracked me up! :D > > Mia > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > E-mail for the greater good. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:18 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: The First Album 40 years on, desert island top 5 records Y'know, looking at the inside of that album, I'm struck again by what a beatiful woman Joni is. Yeah, if I was going to be stranded on a desert island with Joni, I'd want it to be in 1968. Of course the rest of y'all would've missed out on all the wonderful music that came after. And it really wouldn't have done me any good either, since I was just a baby then. Life's cruel like that sometimes, isn't it? Love, David David Eoll wrote: > Right you are. There wasn't much in the way of liner notes, lyrics > notwithstanding, and they were stuck up in the corner, so I missed them. > I was wrong about David Crosby, apparently. So, his only contribution > was as *cough* producer *cough**cough*. I can't remember where I read > that, but I think he said flat out that he was pretty much producer in > name only. He basically let her make her own album the way she wanted. > (Or am I wrong about that too?) :) > > Love, > David > > mia _ wrote: > >> << What IS that siren thing on 'Nathan La Freneer'? It's an >> instrument? >> Electric guitar.>> >> >> The album insert states: Lee Keefer and Joni Mitchell on banshee. >> But this brings up another >> question - what the heck is a banshee? And why does it take two >> people to play it? >> >> <> preserver again.>> >> >> David, this really cracked me up! :D >> >> Mia >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> E-mail for the greater good. 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