From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #80 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, May 26 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 080 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- starbucks cutting back on their music division [Randy Johnson ] joni mention in word [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: starbucks cutting back on their music division [Michael Flaherty ] kd lang and joni [Mags ] Re: starbucks cutting back on their music division [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: American Idol, SJC ["Mark Scott" ] Re: last album listened to all the way through ["Mark Scott" ] Re: last album listened to all the way through [Laura Stanley ] ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC [Em ] Re: ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] NJC Suggestions? (long) [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: last album listened to all the way through [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: NJC Suggestions? (long) ["T Peckham" ] Book Review LA Times [Happy The Man ] Lyric Database thanks [Ben Turner ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 00:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Johnson Subject: starbucks cutting back on their music division Read a brief blurb in a recent issue of Rolling Stone that Starbucks is cutting back on their music division and wondered if anyone knew if Joni has an airtight contract with them to insure the second cd they were supposed to make with her. Can anyone SHINE any light on this? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 17:50:01 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Empty, try another and Money Thanks David. I kind of knew that Joni had recorded the cigarette machine in the studio lobby or wherever. I was just amazed at how similar the machine noise sounds in the opening of Pink Floyd's, Welcome To The Machine. It's unlikely that Joni would ever use samples from someone else's work but I thought there might be a slim chance because I get the impression that Joni admires Pink Floyd's work. On further listening, it got me thinking about some the similar topics PF wrote about. The line in, Have A Cigar, "Oh by the way, which one's Pink?" reminds me of the numerous times people have referred to Joni as "Miss Mitchell". Apart from that, I find similarities in the sentiment expressed in songs like, Have A Cigar and Turbulent Indigo, Money and Shiny Toys. Not an academic study. Just a thought. Mark in Sydney NP On The Turning Away - Pink Floyd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:14:40 +1000 From: Be Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #57 Hi Michel , I must admit to being impressed by the Word music magazine . It's very informative on any folk or rock oriented music that is likely to impact on the music scene . I suspect their editorial staff though are a younger generation , and tend to favor the newer performers . - - Bear> Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 03:00:11 -0400> From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org> To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org> Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #57> > onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, May 25 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 057> > > > ==========> > TOPICS and authors in this Digest:> --------> re: joni mention in word [Michel BYRNE ]> Re: Empty, try another and Money [David Sapp ]> more on joni's ballet, then k.d. mentions joni [Patti Parlette Lyric Database [Ben Turner ]> Re: Lyric Database ["Mark Angelo" ]> > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:54:32 +0000> From: Michel BYRNE > Subject: re: joni mention in word> > Hi Bn, The Word's one magazine I doubt Joni will ever speak to again. Their> two-page review of Shine was one the meanest I've ever read (of any album) -> poisonous and antagonistic at quite a personal level (and a very unbalanced> account of the album). I had been considering taking out a subscription, as> it's an interesting mag, but that stopped me right in my tracks....> M> > > _________________________________________________________________> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000007ukm/direct/01/> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:17:24 -0700 (PDT)> From: David Sapp > Subject: Re: Empty, try another and Money > > When Joni received her Ph.D. at McGill University she talked about the creation of the Empty song. And by the way she says she did not sample the machine but actually played it all the way through. There is a video of this discussion available at the following link:> > http://archives.cbc.ca/arts_entertainment/music/topics/2462/> > ... signing off for now,> Peace, David> > ------------------------------> > Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 00:56:46 +0000> From: Patti Parlette > Subject: more on joni's ballet, then k.d. mentions joni> > Thanks for this, Mags! > > http://www.cbc.ca/arts/theatre/story/2008/03/10/alberta-ballet.html> > *****> > The gift goes on....> > I noticed another article on the right sidebar. It's an interview with k.d. lang, and there was a Joni mention:> > "The dating was over between me and country, and I returned to my early influences, stuff like Peggy Lee and Joni Mitchell. Those were the singer/songwriters whod been my original inspirations, and so I went back to them for Ingenue."> > http://www.cbc.ca/arts/music/story/2008/05/21/f-kd-lang-watershed.html#social comments> > Gotta love ALL the prairie girls!> > Love,> > Patti P., who still hasn't quite recovered from seeing k.d. a few months ago. "That girl could sing!"> > "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace."> -- John Lennon> > > _________________________________________________________________> E-mail for the greater good. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft.> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood> > ------------------------------> > Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:35:19 -0700> From: Ben Turner > Subject: Lyric Database> > Greetings all,> > > Is there a single database or collectoing of all of Joni's lyrics, where one> could say, search for a given word, phrase, quote? Of course her lyrics are> all over the net, but I haven't found them in one searchable form. If this> doesn't exist, I'll work on it.> > Best, Ben> > _________________________________________________________________> E-mail for the greater good. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft.> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood> > ------------------------------> > Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 01:55:30 -0400> From: "Mark Angelo" > Subject: Re: Lyric Database> > Hi Ben,> > Yes you can view the lyrics of all her songs listed in alphabetical order as> well as search for a word or string of words you are looking for in a> particular song at the JoniMitchelll.com site.> > Click this link to take you directly to that page on the site:> > JoniMitchell.com - Lyrics > > Regards,> > - --Mark in Florida.> > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:35 AM, Ben Turner wrote:> > > Greetings all,> >> >> > Is there a single database or collectoing of all of Joni's lyrics, where> > one> > could say, search for a given word, phrase, quote? Of course her lyrics> > are> > all over the net, but I haven't found them in one searchable form. If this> > doesn't exist, I'll work on it.> >> > Best, Ben> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > E-mail for the greater good. Join the i m Initiative from Microsoft.> > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_GreaterGood> >> > > > - -- > - -Mark in Florida> > ------------------------------> > End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #57> ********************************> > -------> Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org> Unsubscribe by clicking here:> mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai% 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:25:03 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: joni mention in word Hi Michel, I didn't know about this review! I've read the magazine couple of times, like when they brought an interview with Joni, and also there was a very good interview with Tom Waits last year (but he would only say interesting stuff anyway). The last few times I've been a bit disappointed; it seems to be all lists and compilations; this time every other article seemed to be about things like 'what was shocking 50 years ago but not now'; 'the best opening lines ever', and so on. Like many things in the UK it feels like half the fun is about producing smart language and intersperse little French phrases.That is not a criticism, just something I've noticed about the English, especially the ones at Cambridge I guess. There is a jmdler in London whose name I once saw on a letter from the readers... bene Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:54:32 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: re: joni mention in word Hi Bn, The Word's one magazine I doubt Joni will ever speak to again. Their two-page review of Shine was one the meanest I've ever read (of any album) - poisonous and antagonistic at quite a personal level (and a very unbalanced account of the album). I had been considering taking out a subscription, as it's an interesting mag, but that stopped me right in my tracks.... M ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 05:36:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: starbucks cutting back on their music division From: Randy Johnson >>>>Read a brief blurb in a recent issue of Rolling Stone that Starbucks is cutting back on their music division and wondered if anyone knew if Joni has an airtight contract with them to insure the second cd they were supposed to make with her. Can anyone SHINE any light on this? There's no such thing as "airtight" with a record label, but considering the buzz Shine got I'm sure they'll put it out unless they stop releasing music altogether--in which case she'll have no problem finding another major independent label. In fact, she could just be moved to the Concord label. Starbucks is cutting back on everything as their business has drastically decreased. Before anyone starts waving a fist in the air and chanting "power to the people", you should know that their primary problem is competition from that little mom-'n'-pop Dunkin' Donuts, who offer a similar product for less price. Of course, they do this by using cheaper beans etc., but obviously many people can't tell the difference. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: starbucks cutting back on their music division Michael Flaherty wrote: > From: Randy Johnson > >>>>>Read a brief blurb in a recent issue of Rolling Stone that Starbucks >>>>> is cutting back on their music division and wondered if anyone knew if >>>>> Joni has an airtight contract with them to insure the second cd they >>>>> were supposed to make with her. Can anyone SHINE any light on this? > > > There's no such thing as "airtight" with a record label, but considering > the buzz Shine got I'm sure they'll put it out I'd venture the Grammy win of River: The Joni Letters as best album would have more influence on releasing another cd than reaction to Shine. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:26:56 -0400 From: bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Otis and Marlena A few days ago Dave B wrote: "Just listened to DJRD all the way through yesterday for a change from ipod shuffle, and loved the sheer panorama of it. It's surely Joni's most epic work, taking all the time it needs to get underway and then traveling the globe from Harlem to Brazil to Indian reservations to Cuba to Florida. And this exploding line caught my attention for the first time: "The fatted flake and sizzle in their mink oil.." " DJRD was a Joni record that took a long time for me to learn to like.? Now that I have heard it a couple hundred times, it has more legs for me than just about any of her works - it is literally unbelievable to me that anybody could be that good. Once a year or so I recite the lyrics of Otis and Marlena to someone, as an illustration of Crosby's comment to the effect of "nobody can paint a picture with a song like Joni". Yes, my wife?Barbara?and I visit South Florida a lot (twice a year for a week) to visit family and friends (bridge/golf). Usually the victim is Barbara, but sometimes I lay my religion on my friends. It's really quite the little painting. "On louvred blocks in green sea air In flourescent fossil yards Slippers are shuffling into folding chairs Freckled hands are shuffling cards...... Miami Royal, that celebrated dump, sleazing by the sea. Marlena, white as stretcher sheet Watches it all from her 10th floor balcony Like it's her opera box.... She taps her glass with an emery file Watching three rings in the sun The golden dive The fatted flake - and sizzle in their mink oil They've come for fun and sun..... While Muslims stick up Washington." A painting from 30 years ago. Feels like?yesterday. :-) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:59:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Woodstock and the Other Diva CBS Sunday Morning had a story on Woodstock and the new museum opening up there. It ended, nicely, with a few chords of Joni's own playing of her composition. Soon to follow is a story on Donna Summer. Her new cd Crayons is the cd Madonna could only hope Hard Candy could be. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:29:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: kd lang and joni pattyparlette wrote: The gift goes on.... I noticed another article on the right sidebar. It's an interview with k.d. lang, and there was a Joni mention: "The dating was over between me and country, and I returned to my early influences, stuff like Peggy Lee and Joni Mitchell. Those were the singer/songwriters whod been my original inspirations, and so I went back to them for Ingenue." now moi: kdlang is in performance here in the peg, soon. the show sold out in short order. a wonderful venue, the same one that Mikey and his boys performed . Thank goodness, she didnt go for the MTS centre. sadly i won't be there. ticket prices were a bit dear for me. agreed, kd does joni tunes beautifully. on hymns of the 49th parallel, kd covers case of you as well as jericho. i love that she sings jericho as it is one of the lesser known songs ... moody, gorgeous. i think she's a power house, and i do believe there's something about living on the prairie that summons up the most amazing musicality. deep roots here. love that. lessons in survival. i've gone awol a bit. my apologies for that (you know who you are). as joni says, 'there's no need to explain' but if you want to know, write me off list ;--) so sad to learn that lovely utah phillips passed on the 23rd may . if you had the chance to see him, he is one of the most gentle, generous of heart people i've ever met. lovely lovely man, amazing life stories he shared with the world. going to see Nathan Rogers tonight. (a la comps because i work at the venue). anyway...it's wonderful to be friends with him and his family, and am gaining wonderful insight into what it is to be the son of the beloved most Stan Rogers. Nathan is embracing his heritage more and more as time goes on. And damn, he sounds so much like Dad, now. the gift goes on, indeed. Mags i exist as i am, that is enough ~walt whitman~ - --------------------------------- Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:00:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: starbucks cutting back on their music division I'd imagine they probably would slow down as far as signing artists and such goes. Afterall, they did sign a few artists in an x amount of time which would be fine if they just were all about music but since they are not, I can understand that. I don't think we need to worry about Joni not releasing her second album. -Monika Randy Johnson wrote: Read a brief blurb in a recent issue of Rolling Stone that Starbucks is cutting back on their music division and wondered if anyone knew if Joni has an airtight contract with them to insure the second cd they were supposed to make with her. Can anyone SHINE any light on this? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:11:33 -0400 From: "Mark Angelo" Subject: Re: Otis and Marlena I have been listening to DJRD a lot since my new CD copy arrived. Particularly "Otis & Marlena", I have been listening to it non-stop, I believe it's one of my all-time favorites. Indeed the song is so laden with metaphors, verb, adverbs, and adjectives that are so powerful, full of one line after the next that are pure poetry accompanied by chords of yet another of Joni's beautiful choices of open guitar tunings. Indeed it is a painting from 30 years ago, yesterday, and today. I suppose Las Vegas and it's bedroom community would be the current "neon-mercury ( stained ...sky it's red as meat...it's a cheap red rose" and that "celebrated Royal Dump", known as "Miami Royal" would be the Las Vegas Flamingo (if it's even still present) or some such tacky monument to American culture. "Always the grand parades of cellulite, jiggling to her golden pools, they jiggle into surgery, hopefully beneath the blade, they dream of golden beauty"... LOVE those lines...and America's youth-obsessed Hollywood culture still jiggles it's way into an expensive and sometimes fatal rendezvous with the blade at some plastic surgeon, some so desperate they venture all the way to Mexico where they can better afford the procedure. OTHO there is that element that would still do anything to have their cellulite removed only to have them replaced by jiggling D-Cups that have catapulted Hooters into another slice of vacuous Americana. We are are indeed a contradictory culture as Joni references later chronologically "of some duality, of restless multiplicity, (oh say can you see)". And as she sang two years earlier in her opera THOSL , again about a woman, Scarlett (women, men, humans perhaps?) seemingly full of contradictions "A woman must have everything". And of course "As Muslims stick up Washington" is a reference to 30 years ago but is happening this very moment, as consumers cry increasingly cry foul at the pump and as our empty suit comes back from the Middle East being rebuffed by the Saudis, "Good friends" of the loyal Bush Royal Family for decades, having rescued him from multiple failed ventures in Texas - the perfect state to exemplify the Bigger is Better nonsense which unfortunately has become America's paradigm, the hell to economic and geopolitical blow-back. Rome, Spain, The Netherlands, Britain, are a number of sobering examples that this kind of hubris ultimately encounters what some call reality, but our biggest export - Hollywood fantasy - has hopes of indoctrinating the planet that all of mankind can emulate Americans and have a slice of the American Dream, but are finding it is just what they name says literally, a Dream. I have to listen more closely to the words (it's been a looooooooong time) but the songs on the CD seem to me me with their references to dreams "Dream On" repeating 5 times as it segues into "The Tenth World" and of course "Dreamland" itself, with lines such as "they push the recline buttons down with, dreamland coming on, Dreamland dreamland" refer to man's "restless multiplicity", his need to travel to places where they are things he envies and desires, and to extend on this an endless desire for ever-changing "Borderlines" to be redrawn for those who wield the most power (militarily) reflected in the lines "Walter Raleigh and Chris Columbus, come marching out of the waves. and claim the beaches and all concessions, in the name of the suntan slaves". Every bristling shaft of pride,church or nation, team or tribe, every notion we subscribe to is just a borderline. (TTT). I haven't read any books on Joni or reviews about the DJRD, so I may be reading FAR too much into my reacquaintance with lyrics and songs I first started listening to in my first year of college ( 30 years ago !!!), so please feel free to correct me or fill me in, I am always eager to learn something new about the music of the most influential person I have grown up with which is why I love the JMDL. Also, I believe the lines referring to Marlena "That girl is travel drained" could just as easily be referring in some way to Joni herself, and the wanderlust which formed the essence of her reflections while traveling in "Hejira". On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > A painting from 30 years ago. Feels like?yesterday. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:34:21 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: American Idol, SJC - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rian Afriadi" Travis watches American Idol so it it often on one of our televisions and I ocassionally catch bits of it. One thing that struck me was that the guy with the long dreads did 'Hallelujah' on the finale. A Leonard Cohen song on American Idol. To me, in some ways, that's even more shocking than the appearance of Graham Nash or the possibility of a 'Joni Mitchell Night'. Is it Rufus Wainwright or Shrek that we have to thank for the popularity of 'Hallelujah'. I think k d lang's version is heartbreakingly gorgeous. Mark in Seattle > Randy wrote : > 7. Joni Mitchell Night! >>>> > Well, as far as i can remember, no Joni songs have ever been sung. > But we almost have one. > In an interview that i read (i'm too lazy to find it again to show > the link), had Brooke White not been eliminated, she planned to sing > Help Me on Rock On Roll Hall of Fame night. > Sigh... > anyway, i love this season because: > 1. Mariah wannabes don't dominate > 2. Brooke White's here. I mean, I've never seen > singer-songwriter-type singer on the show before. > 3. Much more diverse. > Rian > NP. Brooke White - I Am I Said (studio version) (her best, IMO) > (i got it from digitalhavendesigns.com/music) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:46:10 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: last album listened to all the way through > Monika wrote: > > Just curious, which Joni album did you last listen to all the way > through? I grabbed DJRD today with me for my drive to and from > work. That gets me through a cd. > > A bit late here contributing to this thread but it took me a while to remember which was the last. I listen to music driving back and forth to the Park & Ride during the week. This only takes about 20 minutes. My habit is to listen to an entire cd all the way through. But I get it in pieces because of the time limitation of my commute. And the last Joni cd that I can remember listening to all the way through was 'Travelogue', both disks. Took a few commutes but I did listen to all of it. I don't put this one on very often but I must say I gain a new appreciation for it every time I do. Many have criticized Joni's voice on 'Travelogue' but I like it. There is a reflective quality and emotional depth to her singing that was not on the original versions of the songs. There are still one or two of the arrangements that don't work as well as some of the others. But all in all, I think this is a beautiful, outstanding work. And I still say 'The Dawntreader' is truly a work of genius. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:55:30 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: American Idol, SJC I love Jeff Buckley's version of "Hallelujah"....sends shivers down my spine. On May 25, 2008, at 1:34 PM, Mark Scott wrote: > > > Is it Rufus Wainwright or Shrek that we have to thank for the > popularity of 'Hallelujah'. I think k d lang's version is > heartbreakingly gorgeous. > > Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:07:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: last album listened to all the way through Mark wrote: And the last Joni cd that I can remember listening to all the way through was 'Travelogue', both disks. Took a few commutes but I did listen to all of it. I don't put this one on very often but I must say I gain a new appreciation for it every time I do. Many have criticized Joni's voice on 'Travelogue' but I like it. There is a reflective quality and emotional depth to her singing that was not on the original versions of the songs. There are still one or two of the arrangements that don't work as well as some of the others. But all in all, I think this is a beautiful, outstanding work. And I still say 'The Dawntreader' is truly a work of genius. Hi Mark, I just drove through the Ozark Mountains about 4 hours and listened to "The Dawntreader" on repeat the whole way... from Song to a Seagull. Cool Steven Stills bass on this version of the song. I don't have Travelogue... is the song different on it? A new question: what is the longest time anybody has listened to a Joni song on repeat? Do I win with "The Dawntreader?" Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:35:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: last album listened to all the way through - --- Laura Stanley wrote:> > I just drove through the Ozark Mountains about 4 hours and > listened to "The Dawntreader" on repeat the whole way... from Song to > a Seagull. Cool Steven Stills bass on this version of the song. I > don't have Travelogue... is the song different on it? > > A new question: what is the longest time anybody has listened to a > Joni song on repeat? Do I win with "The Dawntreader?" I do that alot. But not for THAT long! :) Have pigged out on "Blue" (and others) many times over in order to let it truly under my skin. But not for 4 hours! I think you may hold some kind of record there, Laura! Em NP: Pentangle "Open the Door" << Subject: ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC I haven't had iTunes on this 'puter terribly long, therefore none of the playcounts are really high.....but some songs seem to be UNUSUALLY well represented! Was surprised to see that the magnificent gem of 20th century music, "Ra Ra Rasputin" by Boney M, from the stellar and not to be forgotten album "Nightflight to Venus", is nearly at the top of my obsessive play list. (this must happen late at night on weekends only) Also unusually frequently played is "Billy Boola" from the "In the Name of the Father" soundtrack, a tune credited to Bono and whoever Mr. Gavin Friday is....funkississimo piano rock done in some kind of club mix style. Also right near the top is Jorma Kaukonen's playful version of "By the Rivers of Babylon". Not sure why his version catches my fancy but its really does. I mean there's Sweet Honey in the Rock's version as well as who knows all what other great versions, but Jorma's is just full of joy somehow. soooooooooo, whatcha got weird near the top of your "play count" column? (I guess the reason this all tickles me is that I didn't even have "play count" set up as one of my view options before, so I really didn't know I played those songs that much...) Em ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:48:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC I never would have guessed it a million years...at the top is "Another Girl, Another Planet" by The Replacements (appropriately enough - a cover). My little shuffle only has uptempo stuff on it, though as I use it for working out & running. No Joni. Lots of Zeppelin and Stones right below it. Speaking of itunes, "The Treasures of Joni Mitchell" is on itunes now so if that's how you prefer to grab your music it is there for the picking. Bob NP: Shawn Colvin, "Urge For Going" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:42:24 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC soooooooooo, whatcha got weird near the top of your "play count" column? It's so far out there Em, but so am I. For the past few months I've been playing from Annette Funicello's greatest hits, hehehe "Pineapple Princess". Fun song to sing to if you don't mind getting strange looks from people :) Jimmy ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4& ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:46:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC haha! I love it! must investigate... thanks for playing, Jimmy..... :D EM - --- FMYFL@aol.com wrote: > soooooooooo, whatcha got weird near the top of your "play count" > column? > > It's so far out there Em, but so am I. For the past few months I've > been > playing from Annette Funicello's greatest hits, hehehe > "Pineapple Princess". Fun song to sing to if you don't mind getting > strange > looks from people :) > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:05:24 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: ha! iTunes playcount column pretty funny NJC you don't have to investigate, Em. you can see Murphy and Notaro performing the number at Jonifest a few years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7InIHBTlcs&feature=related Jimmy > haha! I love it! must investigate... > thanks for playing, Jimmy..... > :D > EM > ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4& ?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:52:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: NJC Suggestions? (long) Perhaps some of you folks could be of assistance to me. Let me tell you the story. I was very excited about entering this contest titled "Guitar Goddess" (www.guitargoddess.com). You enter a song that is judged on the lyrics, the guitar playing, and the singing for a chance to win a bunch of prizes including a recording contract/tour. On the page, they also have a section of famous female musicians you should know. Joni was listed on there as "Joanie Mitchell" so I emailed them a while ago to let them know the mistake and I gave them an actual pic of Joni since the one up on the site is NOT a picture of Joni. The spelling they fixed but the picture they did not. They did reply to me apologizing for the mistake explaining that people on the net send in the "guitar goddesses you should know." The point here (besides a little JC) is that they replied to me back then. To enter the contest, you have to fill out the initial form, pay an entry fee, and then you get an email with a 5 page application and a way to upload a video of you performing your song. Long ago, around the time I emailed them the Joni bit, I filled out the form but did not pay and my entry was lost. They replied telling me if you don't pay, your entry is lost as millions of people fill that out but don't pay to continue with the process of entering the contest. To the point...last Sunday I filled out the intial form and paid the entry fee. I have still not gotten an email with the application even though my money was taken as it shows on my bank account. Even moreso, I have emailed the GuitarGoddess competition every single day since then asking them about my entry, wanting to actually enter the contest, with no reply back. I have even called them and left a message inquiring about this. No reply still. So I filled out the form...paid the fee....and have not entered the competition with NO COMMUNICATION from them. I even messaged them on their MySpace and nothing. They have taken my money and nothing. I have claimed a dispute on PayPal and hopefully that'll come through. Basically, I'm trying to figure out if this contest is a scam or not. It seems awfully fishy that they don't get back to me after I paid the $25. So any suggestions on what more I should do? I'm very angry about this if it is a scam. This isn't right if this contest is a scam and it isn't right if it isn't and they just took my money. How many others are in my position? I also put up a musician ad on backpage.com (as that's where I first saw a link for the contest) asking if anyone else entered/tried entering. I will also call my bank account about this but I don't just want the $$$ back. I want to find out if this is a legitimate contest. Any suggestions on what else to do? Do you think the contest is a scam? -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: last album listened to all the way through I think you win. I'd bet money on that. I've played some Joni songs on repeat and still do. There are a few songs that CALL for atleast one repeat everytime I listen. But as far as the most repeats go, I'd have to say "River" wins for me. The first time I listened to Blue, I listened to it all the way through but excitedly went back to River and hit repeat over and over and over again. That song just killed me then and it still does today. I still remember the feeling I got from listening to it that first time and all of my first thougts on it. Must be what falling in love feels like! Only kidding but I must have listened to it hundreds of times that first time with Blue but I didn't so for four hours. -Monika Laura Stanley wrote: Hi Mark, I just drove through the Ozark Mountains about 4 hours and listened to "The Dawntreader" on repeat the whole way... from Song to a Seagull. Cool Steven Stills bass on this version of the song. I don't have Travelogue... is the song different on it? A new question: what is the longest time anybody has listened to a Joni song on repeat? Do I win with "The Dawntreader?" Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 23:05:21 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: NJC Suggestions? (long) I went to their website and read through their FAQ. One thing I noticed is there are several misspellings which seems a bit odd. Some of their "questions" sound a bit strange too, like the one asking "will I have time to practice every day? and "do I need a passport to go to Greece?" Who asks questions like that...I don't know, sounds bit sketchy to me. Their explanation about the entry fee sounds a bit over the top. "we thoroughly look at each contestant. Your strengths, your weaknesses." That's not even a sentence plus that has nothing to do why there is an entry fee. There's also no mention of a single sponsor which is strange as well. They also claim to be providing guitars and programs for under privileged [misspelled also on their website] children which may or may not be true. Doesn't seem legit to me. On May 25, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > . I want to find out if this is a legitimate contest. Any > suggestions on what else to do? Do you think > the contest is a scam? > -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:32:13 -0500 From: "T Peckham" Subject: Re: NJC Suggestions? (long) Unfortunately, I have to agree with all the points made by Victor. I just checked out the website too, and it's not just the misspellings/typos that give me pause, but also a few awkward sounding phrases that make me think the writer does not have English as his/her first language. Classic sign of an Internet scam. I did, however, turn up some other stuff on a Google search, one entry showing the "winners" of a previous contest, but very little else. You might try emailing a couple of the so-called winners, or any of the non famous artists who are listed at the website, just asking them to verify that it's a legit organization. Even if it does turn out not to be a scam, it certainly appears to be a shoddily-run group. Best of luck! Terra On 5/25/08, Victor Johnson wrote: > > I went to their website and read through their FAQ. One thing I noticed is > there are several misspellings which seems a bit odd. Some of their > "questions" sound a bit strange too, like the one asking "will I have time > to practice every day? and "do I need a passport to go to Greece?" Who asks > questions like that...I don't know, sounds bit sketchy to me. Their > explanation about the entry fee sounds a bit over the top. "we thoroughly > look at each contestant. Your strengths, your weaknesses." That's not even > a sentence plus that has nothing to do why there is an entry fee. > > There's also no mention of a single sponsor which is strange as well. They > also claim to be providing guitars and programs for under privileged > [misspelled also on their website] children which may or may not be true. > > Doesn't seem legit to me. > > > > On May 25, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > >> . I want to find out if this is a legitimate contest. Any suggestions on >> what else to do? Do you think >> the contest is a scam? >> -Monika ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:39:21 -0500 From: Happy The Man Subject: Book Review LA Times "Girls Like Us" by Sheila Weller was reviewed in this Sunday's LA Times. I was in Vegas for the Cirque du Soleil "Love" show (looks like everyone else was there for the Police and Elvis) and was caught by a picture of King, Joni & Simon and the following review. http://www.latimes.com/features/books/la-bk-brody25-2008may25,0,1706271.story Peace, Craig PS Home from Vegas, tired a just a little poorer..... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 21:14:07 -0700 From: Ben Turner Subject: Lyric Database thanks Thanks Mark- the search on the Joni site works great. Brief into: I'm a relative newbie to the JMDL. Listened to Joni since her beginning in the sixties up until about Shadows and Light, then life intervened. I picked up the New Yorker this winter that had a great "poem by Joni Mitchell". I think it was Shine. I wondered if she had turned to poetry, or in fact these were lyrics to a song I hadn't heard. When I found the album, it blew me away. It says so many things that need saying (as is her way), and I love many of the songs. (Funny that I don't like much the songs that several of the albums strong critics claim are the only good things on the album: Night of the Iguana and Hana. It leads me to think that a lot of the strong criticism comes from people who really just don't want to hear her message, and there are a ehole lot of people in that category. ) I think the Shine album is a terrible beauty. So, now I'm reawakened to Joni's whole oeuvre, which is truly amazing. Glad to be here and very much enjoying it. BTW, I was initially put back by the political discussions here. Now, although I hope they stay a bit muted and lower in volume than the Joni content, I feel these comments can be part of the family conversation here. Best, Ben _________________________________________________________________ Change the world with e-mail. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #80 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------