From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #74 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, May 21 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 074 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: last album listened to all the way through [Laura Stanley ] Re: Last JM listening and fave Bobby Dylan [Michael Paz Subject: Re: last album listened to all the way through Monika wrote: Just curious, which Joni album did you last listen to all the way through? I grabbed DJRD today with me for my drive to and from work. That gets me through a cd. Hi Monika, Does it count if you put a song on repeat part way through the album and then after it plays about 3 times you listen to the rest of the album? I've got DJRD in my car. I've got Song to a Seagull here. I've got Dreamland in my shower. I don't notice that Joni is so much in my days, but she is. Love, Laura PS. I miss Smurf. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 05:33:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: RE: What if the Dems had winner take all primaries, njc An angry spirit cried: If... if... if... is not not only a sucky song by Bread, but detached from reality. Hi spiritu, I love Bread songs, and have especially fond memories of singing them with loved ones while driving around Niagara Falls looking for the Butterfly Conservatory on the Canadian side. As for politics, I've been enjoying the silence on the list. "No one knows, they can never get that close, guesses at most, guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching..." Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:31:34 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Waisak Day, then bright flags hung on holidays Quelle coincidence! Rian wrote: "For Buddhists everywhere, Happy Waisak Day." Thanks, Rian. I didn't know about this day, but I hung out some Tibetan prayer flags Sunday that a friend of spirit gave me, and I've been meaning to post about them. Every time I see them flapping outside my window, I start singing: "Kisses like bright flags, hung on holidays..." They are indeed BRIGHT. Reds are sweet and greens are sour..... No, no. That's not it! # Blue (symbolizing sky/space) # White (symbolizing air/wind) # Red (symbolizing fire) # Green (symbolizing water) # Yellow (symbolizing earth) Spirit of the water Give us all the courage and the grace To make genius of this tragedy unfolding The genius to save this place. They are supposed to spread peace, compassion, strength and wisdom into the world. I like that! "Let the wind carry me." "The answer is blowing in the wind." (And we all know that war is not the answer.) On a lighter note, my sons are gonna flip when they see them. (Every time they come home there is some new Joni pr peace thing in the house replacing their old Husky/Red Sox/Yankees/Whalers stuff.) I can just hear them, that shocked and indignant: "MOM!!!! What are all those flags out on the deck? It looks like a car dealership!" (Of course, I'd rather they would say: "Very nice. Amour, Mama, not cheap display!", but that ain't gonna happen.) Well, she knows the answer to THAT impudence. I'll just start singing Ray's Dad's Cadillac or Sometimes Chickie had the car Or Ron had a car Or Lead Foot Melvin with his hot-wire head or Waiting for his car on the hill.... They'll shake their hands, and tell me that I've changed. Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ E-mail for the greater good. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ GreaterGood ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 06:34:02 -0700 From: Russell Bowden Subject: Last JM listening and fave Bobby Dylan Gang, DJRD was the last Joni I heard...I had put THOSL, Hejira and DJRD in the player...I'm into chronology (?) Without question my absolute bestest Dylan is Blood on the Tracks....however, there's a little too much blood on Idiot Wind and I always skip it...God, I loathe that song. Love, Russ in Maine Dreams are the bright creatures of poem, and legend, who sport on earth in the night season, and melt away in the first beam of the sun,which lights grim care and stern reality on their daily pilgrimage through the world.Charles Dickens > Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 03:00:19 -0400> From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org> To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org> Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #53> > onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, May 21 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 053> > > > ==========> > TOPICS and authors in this Digest:> - --------> SV: Last Joni album ["Marion Leffler" ]> Re: Help Me :) with Bob, now SJC [Rian Afriadi ]> Re: Last Joni album [Rian Afriadi ]> Re: Last Joni album [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com]> Re: SV: Last Joni album [Jerry Notaro ]> JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses [Rian Afriadi Re: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses [Jerry Notaro Re: Last Joni album ["Mark Angelo" ]> Re: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com]> For The Roses.... [KEVIN DOHENY ]> Re: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses ["Mark Angelo" Re: Help Me :) with Bob, now SJC [Monika Bogdanowicz Last Joni album [Marianne Rizzo ]> Re: Last Joni album [Em ]> Re: Last Joni album [Victor Johnson ]> Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni [merk54@aol.com]> Re: LyricDiscussion For The Roses and now the horses sjc [Jeannie Fwd: Re: LyricDiscussion For The Roses and now the horses sjc [Jeannie <]> Re: Fwd: Re: LyricDiscussion For The Roses and now the horses sjc [Jeann]> Re: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni [KEVIN DOHENY An "Interview" about Matala Life, Crete, 1970 [E vonAlmassy > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:38:11 +0200> From: "Marion Leffler" > Subject: SV: Last Joni album> > Whenever I listen to Joni I do listen all the way through (with the> exception of LOTC. I skip BYT on that one). The last album I listened to was> C&S, incidentally just before the discussion of it started on the list. > Marion> > - - -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----> Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Monika> Bogdanowicz> Skickat: den 20 maj 2008 04:34> Till: Joni people!> Dmne: Last Joni album> > Just curious, which Joni album did you last listen to all the way through?> I grabbed DJRD today with me for my drive to and from work. That gets me> through a cd.> -Monika> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 04:39:16 -0700 (PDT)> From: Rian Afriadi > Subject: Re: Help Me :) with Bob, now SJC> > I am not a Bob Dylan expert, but here are my favorites :> 1. Like A Rolling Stone from Highway 61 Revisited (1965)> This song is perfect. And FYI, Rolling Stones Magazine placed this song #1 on its 500 Greatest Songs list. (anyway, 3 Joni songs are on the list too : Help Me, BSN, and Free Man In Paris)> Highway 61 is one of few albums that I love all tracks on it. And this album is also placed at #4 on RS's 500 Greatest album of all time. So, you shouldn't miss this album.> 2. Just Like A Woman, from Blonde on Blonde (1966)> She takes just like a woman,> She makes love just like a woman,> She aches just like a woman,> But she breaks just like a little girl.> Oooo i love the song.> FYI : The song is mentioned on Annie Hall.> Blond on Blonde is probably one of my favorite album ever.> 3. Dirt Road Blues, from Time Out Of Mind> This album won Grammy's Album Of The Year (and the album deserves)> As for his early works, I'm not a fan of his pre-Highway Road albums, for reason unknown. Perhaps because I don't like the singing style (in fact, i really hate The Times They Are A Changing) (but I love COrrina Corrina, which I think better than Joni's version)> Well,> that's my 2 cent.> Rian> NP. Petula Clark - - Downtown (i loooove this song)> (P.S: Monika, surely you know how I encountered this oldies song)> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 04:47:55 -0700 (PDT)> From: Rian Afriadi > Subject: Re: Last Joni album> > Phewww....> "Last Joni Album"...> i thought you're telling us that Joni's finished making her new album. (Is it supposed to be her last?)> All the way through?> Last Monday in the office:> Court and Spark,> Taming The Tiger> Turbulent Indigo, and> Clouds> Rian> NP. Smashing Pumpkins -1979> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:47:18 -0400> From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com> Subject: Re: Last Joni album> > through?>> > It would have been Shine, shortly after I got it. I listen to a lot of > Joni, but rarely an album all the way through, more often in a shuffle.> The Joni album I am most likely to play all the way through: C&S.> > Bob> > NP: Dusty Springfield, "The Look Of Love"> - - ------------------------------------------------------------> The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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The last album I listened to was> > C&S, incidentally just before the discussion of it started on the list.> > Marion> > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----> > Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Monika> > Bogdanowicz> > Skickat: den 20 maj 2008 04:34> > Till: Joni people!> > Dmne: Last Joni album> > > > Just curious, which Joni album did you last listen to all the way through?> > I grabbed DJRD today with me for my drive to and from work. That gets me> > through a cd.> > -Monika> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 04:56:25 -0700 (PDT)> From: Rian Afriadi > Subject: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses> > Gotta make a confession :> I don't know what "For The Roses: is.> Any idea?> I have my guess too, but i'm not pretty sure if it's right.> My guess comes like this:> A few year ago, I watched Britney sang on an international music award (i forgot what). There she sang "I'm Not A Girl Not Yet A Woman" beautifully. She was still sober at that time (....and Randy, I bet that time she wore underwear). Then, the guests, honorable guests (they wore tuxedos and gowns) threw her with roses. So. Pop! For The Roses. For the respect of the audiences.> Am I correct?> Rian> Who is celebrating 10 years of the end of Soeharto regime. (He stepped down tomorrow ten years ago)> PS. I love democracy. So democrazy with democracy.> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:29:45 -0400> From: Jerry Notaro > Subject: Re: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses> > For the Roses is what those :"running the race" of life strive to win. Roses> are a symbol of success in love, life, and contention. But the prize is> often fleeting, the beauty and the scent of the most intoxicating rose.> > Happy day off, Rian. Ours here in the U.S. Is next Monday.> > Jerry> > > > > > Gotta make a confession :> > I don't know what "For The Roses: is.> > Any idea?> > I have my guess too, but i'm not pretty sure if it's right.> > My guess comes like this:> > A few year ago, I watched Britney sang on an international music award (i> > forgot what). There she sang "I'm Not A Girl Not Yet A Woman" beautifully. She> > was still sober at that time (....and Randy, I bet that time she wore> > underwear). Then, the guests, honorable guests (they wore tuxedos and gowns)> > threw her with roses. So. Pop! For The Roses. For the respect of the> > audiences.> > Am I correct?> > Rian> > Who is celebrating 10 years of the end of Soeharto regime. (He stepped down> > tomorrow ten years ago)> > PS. I love democracy. So democrazy with democracy.> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:26:18 -0400> From: "Mark Angelo" > Subject: Re: Last Joni album> > Shine as well, but as Marion does with LOTC, I confess to skipping the> revised version of BYT.> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:47 AM, wrote:> > > >> through?>> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:01:06 -0400> From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com> Subject: Re: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses> > > > And even more specifically, it describes a horse race (reference Joni's > artwork for the album) where the winner gets trotted around the track with > a ring of roses in a wreath around their neck. > > http://jonimitchell.com/painter/view.cfm?id=105&recs=4> > In some of Joni's onstage comments about the song, she added that very > often the horse (the performer) was then taken to the glue factory or put > to pasture, equating the way that the music business treated their > performers as well.> > Bob> > NP: Ani, "Pixie"> - - ------------------------------------------------------------> The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - - ------------------------------------------------------------> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:01:24 -0700 (PDT)> From: KEVIN DOHENY > Subject: For The Roses....> > I have always looked at that title as an answer to a question.. The question being..Why do you do it..and She replies... For the Roses...Now I am sure Joni didn't bare her soul or bust her ass on tour just for some flowers ..However If you want to use "roses" as a metaphor for accolades/success ..That is more like it..I am all for the purity of art...The non commercial organic art..But I am sorry a genius like Joni deserves to get paid for what she does..She deserves for people to pay to come see her sing her songs(although when joni last toured ticket prices were at least reasonable)..That is why she does it..Well first and foremost because she wants to do it but also because people, many many people want her to! > > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:02:14 -0400> From: "Mark Angelo" > Subject: Re: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses> > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, wrote:> > >> > In some of Joni's onstage comments about the song, she added that very> > often the horse (the performer) was then taken to the glue factory or put> > to pasture, equating the way that the music business treated their> > performers as well.> > > Glue factory? Ugh...I can hardly eat Jello any longer after learning about> "keratin" but glue...I guess they have a use for everything...I know in> Mexico "Tacos de Seso" (brains) y de Lingua (tongue) y de Cabeza (head) are> among their favorites. They use every part of the vacas (cows)...I imagine> they do as well here it probably just gets diverted into Meow Mix or Alpo.> > And all this from a discussion of roses!> > Mark in Florida> NP: We - Joy Williams> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 08:35:24 -0700 (PDT)> From: Monika Bogdanowicz > Subject: Re: Help Me :) with Bob, now SJC> > Mhm. That comes from a very great film. Loved it when I first saw it and still love it today. Entertaining while at the same it gives you a fascinating insight into Psychology! > As for Mr. Dylan, I would say my absolute favorite songs are Subterreanean Homesick Blues, Hurricane, Leaopard-skin pill-box hat, and Masters of War. I remember doing a paper (which had to be on a song that dealt with war) on Masters of War. It must have 8th or maybe 9th grade. > -Monika> > Rian Afriadi wrote:> Rian> NP. Petula Clark - Downtown (i loooove this song)> (P.S: Monika, surely you know how I encountered this oldies song)> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:38:52 -0400> From: Marianne Rizzo > Subject: Last Joni album> > From: Monika Bogdanowicz Just curious, which Joni album> did you last listen to all the way through? I grabbed DJRD today with me for> my drive to and from work. That gets me through a cd.-Monika> > > > Same here Monika..> I listened to DJRD while beginning the painting job of my kitchen on Sunday.> > Marianne> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> Give to a good cause with every e-mail. Join the im Initiative from> Microsoft.> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?souce=EML_WL_ GoodCause> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT)> From: Em > Subject: Re: Last Joni album> > I listened to the whole DJRD one time when I fell down and couldn't get> up...> :P> Em> PS and it was pretty good!> > - --- Marianne Rizzo wrote:> > > From: Monika Bogdanowicz Just curious, which> > Joni album> > did you last listen to all the way through? I grabbed DJRD today with> > me for> > my drive to and from work. That gets me through a cd.-Monika> > > > > > > > Same here Monika..> > I listened to DJRD while beginning the painting job of my kitchen on> > Sunday.> > > > Marianne> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> > Give to a good cause with every e-mail. Join the im Initiative from> > Microsoft.> > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?souce=EML_WL_> > GoodCause> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 14:26:47 -0400> From: Victor Johnson > Subject: Re: Last Joni album> > I listened to the whole CSNY Deja Vu one time when I fell up and > couldn't get down.> > Victor> > PS The last Joni album I listened to was Shine. Usually when I put it > on I'll listen to the whole thing.> > > > > On May 20, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Em wrote:> > > I listened to the whole DJRD one time when I fell down and couldn't > > get> > up...> > :P> > Em> > PS and it was pretty good!> >> > --- Marianne Rizzo wrote:> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:55:18 -0400> From: merk54@aol.com> Subject: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni> > The last Joni album I listened to was Shine.? I just bought some new speakers for my home system and decided to play Shine as the first album on them.? Very unusual for me - normally when I have something new to christen (new stereo equipment, new car, etc.) I always play Hejira first.> > This lead me to an interesting thought.? When asked what my favorite Joni album is, I always answer Hejira.? However, if you asked me what album I listened to the most, I would say DJRD.? And really, since it's release, I've been listening primarily to Shine (which sounds amazing on my new speakers by the way!).> > This might all be semantics, but can I really call Hejira my favorite, if it's not the album I listen to the most?? It's certainly the one I admire the most, and it touches me in ways that no other album has, but it's no longer?the one I reach for first when looking for some Joni to play.?> > Just wondering if other people have a "favorite" Joni that isn't their most?played Joni.> > Jack> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:22:35 -0700 (PDT)> From: Jeannie > Subject: Re: LyricDiscussion For The Roses and now the horses sjc> > I don't want to seem rude to switch the lyric discussion over to a tragedy done to the horses whose life is of no longer any use to man.> > Hundreds of thousands of horses are cruelly and inhumanely transported to Mexico only to be brutally murdered for human consumption. > > Here in Antonio, our newspaper did a headline story about the horse's heart-wrenching plight and it caused an outcry.> > I couldn't even see two seconds of a tv news clipping showing the method of murder with machete like knives driven through their spines and backs.> > And whenever I've looked into the eyes of any horse I meet I see loyalty and love and the absolute beauty of creation.> > Truly, > > Jeannie> > PS: Check a blood-dimmed story out about this disaster being done on a daily basis to my friends by going to the rickieleejones.com site and scroll down to the lower third of the page and there you'll find the link.> > And right now I'm going outside to smell some of the red roses my son, grandmother and myself planted right before she got a brain tumor and died soon after that.> > And soon right after that to help heal our pain my son, sister, mom and I went by train and plane to Vancouver to go hear Joni sing, along with Van the Man and another sweet mean ol' daddy, Bob Dylan and we could smell the roses once we sat in the garden on the grass as the sun set over the Puget Sound so serene. Gifts from God of love for us through nature.> > PSII:> My prayers go out to Sen. Edward Kennedy.> May he fight this battle just the way the Kennedy's always have fought with their amazing Irish courage.> > Mark Angelo wrote:> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, wrote:> > >> > In some of Joni's onstage comments about the song, she added that very> > often the horse (the performer) was then taken to the glue factory or put> > to pasture, equating the way that the music business treated their> > performers as well.> > > Glue factory? Ugh...I can hardly eat Jello any longer after learning about> "keratin" but glue...I guess they have a use for everything...I know in> Mexico "Tacos de Seso" (brains) y de Lingua (tongue) y de Cabeza (head) are> among their favorites. They use every part of the vacas (cows)...I imagine> they do as well here it probably just gets diverted into Meow Mix or Alpo.> > And all this from a discussion of roses!> > Mark in Florida> NP: We - Joy Williams> > > > > > > > ~nj~> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:33:25 - -0700 (PDT)> From: Jeannie > Subject: Fwd: Re: LyricDiscussion For The Roses and now the horses sjc> > Sorry, I forgot to add a few more words describing a rose's beauty. > > I added them at the end of the sentence and that's part of my NJC, as usual!> > Jeannie> > Jeannie wrote:> > > And whenever I've looked into the eyes of any horse I meet I see loyalty and love and the absolute beauty of creation like that of the roses when I touch, smell and watch them see them do the swing with the wind.> > Truly, > > Jeannie> > > > PSII:> My prayers go out to Sen. Edward Kennedy.> May he fight this battle just the way the Kennedy's always have fought with their amazing Irish courage.> > Sending Sen. Ed a bouquet of beautiful roses through a wind of prayers for him.> > Mark Angelo wrote:> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, wrote:> > >> > In some of Joni's onstage comments about the song, she added that very> > often the horse (the performer) was then taken to the glue factory or put> > to pasture, equating the way that the music business treated their> > performers as well.> > > Glue factory? Ugh...I can hardly eat Jello any longer after learning about> "keratin" but glue...I guess they have a use for everything...I know in> Mexico "Tacos de Seso" (brains) y de Lingua (tongue) y de Cabeza (head) are> among their favorites. They use every part of the vacas (cows)...I imagine> they do as well here it probably just gets diverted into Meow Mix or Alpo.> > And all this from a discussion of roses!> > Mark in Florida> NP: We - Joy Williams> > > > > > > > ~nj~> > > > > > > > > ~nj~> > - ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:35:49 -0700 (PDT)> From: Jeannie > Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: LyricDiscussion For The Roses and now the horses sjc> > Sorry for the little confusion.> > Corrected line with JC and not NJC below.> > Jeannie> > Jeannie wrote:> > > I added them at the end of the sentence and that's part of my JC, in the SJC from the subject's title.> > See how Joni lines comes in most of my lines from time to time?> > Jeannie> > Jeannie wrote:> > > And whenever I've looked into the eyes of any horse I meet I see loyalty and love and the absolute beauty of creation like that of the roses when I touch, smell and watch them see them do the swing with the wind.> > Truly, > > Jeannie> > > > PSII:> My prayers go out to Sen. Edward Kennedy.> May he fight this battle just the way the Kennedy's always have fought with their amazing Irish courage.> > Sending Sen. Ed a bouquet of beautiful roses through a wind of prayers for him.> > Mark Angelo wrote:> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:01 AM, wrote:> > >> > In some of Joni's onstage comments about the song, she added that very> > often the horse (the performer) was then taken to the glue factory or put> > to pasture, equating the way that the music business treated their> > performers as well.> > > Glue factory? Ugh...I can hardly eat Jello any longer after learning about> "keratin" but glue...I guess they have a use for everything...I know in> Mexico "Tacos de Seso" (brains) y de Lingua (tongue) y de Cabeza (head) are> among their favorites. They use every part of the vacas (cows)...I imagine> they do as well here it probably just gets diverted into Meow Mix or Alpo.> > And all this from a discussion of roses!> > Mark in Florida> NP: We - Joy Williams> > > > > > > > ~nj~> > > > > > > > > ~nj~> > > > > > > > > ~nj~> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:41:18 -0700 (PDT)> From: KEVIN DOHENY > Subject: Re: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni> > Herjira is like a $3,000 suit or that fierce cocktail dress(trying to be gender friendly for all the list..lol)... or the "good china"..You love it..It makes you feel amazing.. but if you can't wear it everyday... Nothing wrong with that..It can be your favorite and your least listened too..Now I am off to listen to hejira! :)> > merk54@aol.com wrote: The last Joni album I listened to was Shine.? I just bought some new speakers for my home system and decided to play Shine as the first album on them.? Very unusual for me - normally when I have something new to christen (new stereo equipment, new car, etc.) I always play Hejira first.> > This lead me to an interesting thought.? When asked what my favorite Joni album is, I always answer Hejira.? However, if you asked me what album I listened to the most, I would say DJRD.? And really, since it's release, I've been listening primarily to Shine (which sounds amazing on my new speakers by the way!).> > This might all be semantics, but can I really call Hejira my favorite, if it's not the album I listen to the most?? It's certainly the one I admire the most, and it touches me in ways that no other album has, but it's no longer?the one I reach for first when looking for some Joni to play.?> > Just wondering if other people have a "favorite" Joni that isn't their most?played Joni.> > Jack> > ------------------------------> > Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 23:52:54 -0700> From: E vonAlmassy > Subject: An "Interview" about Matala Life, Crete, 1970> > Hi There ~> > Perhaps someone might be interested in this tale.> > I lived on Crete for eight months; Joni Mitchell was there for a short > while.> > Thanks,> > Evelyn from Canada> > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of Final Edited Matala Interview.doc]> > ------------------------------> > End of onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #53> ********************************> > -------> Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org> Unsubscribe by clicking here:> mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refr esh_family_safety_052008 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:55:51 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Last JM listening and fave Bobby Dylan Was waiting to see if anyone mentioned one of my favorites (although Blood On The Tracks is way up on top of the heap), and since no one has I will throw in a nod to "Oh Mercy"...a collection of great songs including Everything Is Broken, Man In The Long Black Coat, Shooting Star, What Good Am I...really nothing on there I don't like, and Lanois' production work is exquisite and works to make the album a cohesive whole. 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Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "Jackie O" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni Am downloading it from www.emusic.com as I type! Was delighted to see it is available. I'm really enjoying my membership. :) Em - --- Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > And while I'm thinking about it, as I predicted CDBaby SOLD OUT > quickly of > the latest BYT project: > > http://cdbaby.com/cd/bigyellowtaxi6 > > It was among their biggest sellers last week - congratulations to > Henning > and Christina & band! > If you missed it the first go 'round, just keep hitting that link and > when > you see it in stock, pounce on it. > > Bob > > NP: John Mellencamp, "Jackie O" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:37:47 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Last JM listening and fave Bobby Dylan And of course great New Orleans musicians Brian Stoltz famous for playing with me on the Pazfest CD, Tony Hall who plays with Emmy Lou too as well as Dave Matthews and Friends and most recently, Ivan Neville and Dumstafunk (CHECK OUT THIS BAND IF THEY COME NEAR YOU), and of course mean Willie Green on Drums. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 21, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Was waiting to see if anyone mentioned one of my favorites (although Blood On The Tracks is way up on top of the heap), and since no one has I will throw in a nod to "Oh Mercy"...a collection of great songs including Everything Is Broken, Man In The Long Black Coat, Shooting Star, What Good Am I...really nothing on there I don't like, and Lanois' production work is exquisite and works to make the album a cohesive whole. Bob NP: Tom Waits, "In The Colloseum" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:35:27 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: What if the Dems had winner take all primaries, njc Have to admit I am guilty of singing all of them damn Bread songs esp. when I was living in Honduras and they along with the Bee Gees were so popular for their smaltzy love songs and high voices. Have o cross my legs to hit those notes now. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 21, 2008, at 7:33 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: An angry spirit cried: If... if... if... is not not only a sucky song by Bread, but detached from reality. Hi spiritu, I love Bread songs, and have especially fond memories of singing them with loved ones while driving around Niagara Falls looking for the Butterfly Conservatory on the Canadian side. As for politics, I've been enjoying the silence on the list. "No one knows, they can never get that close, guesses at most, guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching..." Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:48:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni And if it's not up on itunes yet, it will be fairly soon. Bob NP: Stevie, "They Won't Go When I Go" (another of those brilliant melodies that only HE could create) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:59:46 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni I agree with Kevin. Hejira is the crown jewels but it would lose some magic if heard too often. It is my favorite but I take care not to play it too often. Similarly, The English Patient is my all time fave movie, one of the few movies I own actually, but I try not to watch it more than once every two years. On the flip side, I listened to Shine all the way through a few times when it first came out and all but loathed it each time, so that one will not suffer from over playing. I know there are fervent Shine supporters on the list--nothing personal. Just listened to DJRD all the way through yesterday for a change from ipod shuffle, and loved the sheer panorama of it. It's surely Joni's most epic work, taking all the time it needs to get underway and then traveling the globe from Harlem to Brazil to Indian reservations to Cuba to Florida. And this exploding line caught my attention for the first time: "The fatted flake and sizzle in their mink oil.." Dave Subject: Re: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni Herjira is like a $3,000 suit or that fierce cocktail dress(trying to be gender friendly for all the list..lol)... or the "good china"..You love it..It makes you feel amazing.. but if you can't wear it everyday... Nothing wrong with that..It can be your favorite and your least listened too..Now I am off to listen to hejira! :) merk54@aol.com wrote: The last Joni album I listened to was Shine.? I just bought some new speakers for my home system and decided to play Shine as the first album on them.? Very unusual for me - normally when I have something new to christen (new stereo equipment, new car, etc.) I always play Hejira first. This lead me to an interesting thought.? When asked what my favorite Joni album is, I always answer Hejira.? However, if you asked me what album I listened to the most, I would say DJRD.? And really, since it's release, I've been listening primarily to Shine (which sounds amazing on my new speakers by the way!). This might all be semantics, but can I really call Hejira my favorite, if it's not the album I listen to the most?? It's certainly the one I admire the most, and it touches me in ways that no other album has, but it's no longer?the one I reach for first when looking for some Joni to play.? Just wondering if other people have a "favorite" Joni that isn't their most?played Joni. Jack> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:04:19 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC Give us this day our daily Bread OMG there are woodies all over the world thinking back on those times. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On May 21, 2008, at 10:01 AM, bob.muller@fluor.com wrote: A definite guilty pleasure. Love all those Bread songs and have fond (as in fondle) memories of many many parties where we'd just put on Bread's Greatest Hits and slowdance for hours in the dark. No way I can ever not love the music tied to those memories. Bob NP: Tori Amos, "Gold Dust" NPIMH: Bread, "Diary", mixed with the smell of perfume and raging teenage hormones - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:20:07 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: JoniMitchellLyricDiscussion : For The Roses > In some of Joni's onstage comments about the song, she added that very > often the horse (the performer) was then taken to the glue factory or > put to pasture, equating the way that the music business treated their > performers as well. Once again Joni was light years ahead of everyone regarding our culture. Don't get me started on this subject! Thoroughbred racing needs a serious overhaul. We condemn bullfighting, dog fighting, cockfighting as cruel but this 'sport' is at the center of our so called culture. It is equally as cruel yet it is sanctioned because of the insane amount of money to be made off of these beautiful animals. The filly who just broke both her legs after finishing second in the Kentucky Derby & had to be put down immediately is just one example of something that happens every week on tracks around the country. They start training baby horses far too young before their legs are developed & run them on hard surfaces & a large percentage of them are thrown away, taken off to slaughter, because of injuries or later when they just aren't making enough money anymore. Horse racing is barbaric. I know many people who are doing whatever they can to rescue & rehab & adopt out these horses before they are slaughtered. Here is one story that recently ran in the NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/17/sports/othersports/17horses.html?_r=1&sq=h orse%20rescue&st=cse&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&scp=1&adxnnlx=1211382816-y6M5FzOxt ceeFMoRS3wY3w Kate ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:22:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Last Joni, favorite Joni, most popular Joni I do believe you can. My favorite Joni album is THOSL but I don't think if you racked up all the number of listens to it vs. the number of listens to other albums, that it would be greatest in number. Lately, I had been listening to a lot of For The Roses (prior to my DJRD drive) but that has passed. I always get into different moods which call for different albums. I would say there was a point in time where I listened to Blue most (that is my second favorite Joni album) but I don't think that is the case these days. -Monika merk54@aol.com wrote: This might all be semantics, but can I really call Hejira my favorite, if it's not the album I listen to the most?? It's certainly the one I admire the most, and it touches me in ways that no other album has, but it's no longer?the one I reach for first when looking for some Joni to play.? Just wondering if other people have a "favorite" Joni that isn't their most?played Joni. Jack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob Wh Subject: Re: What if the Dems had winner-take-all primaries? - NJC .... and what if the Americans on the list - numerous though they be - took these political "debates" elsewhere (like, perhaps, an American Politics Discussion List)? It's not as if we foreigners aren't already being similarly assaulted at every checkout stand at every corner of the globe ... Subject: What if the Dems had winner-take-all primaries? - NJC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:26:03 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, all this talk about Democratic primaries now Just throwing the lightness on these things, laughing it all away.... This video had me and local friends kicking and shaking on the floor with hysterical laughter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSq0_a3F6oY "Democrats, pick one, jes for the love of GOD please jes freakin' PICk ONE!" (Friends of yours, Hillbilly PC Bob? Tee hee....) xo, pp P.S. I have an Obama sign on my summer lawn, and the other day some young (10 times round the seasons?) boys passed by on their bikes. One of them pointed to the sign and yelled out "OBAMA!" and then all four of them started chanting: "O-BAM-A! O-BAM-A" as they pumped their fists in the air and pedaled out of sight. I just had to laugh because the night before Jon Stewart talked about the 11 year-old boy in Kentucky who sold his bike and sold his video games to support Hillary's campaign. "And she took it!" That one is here, at about 5:06: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=168561&title=indecision-2008-west-virginia And those two women at 1:50 on...yikes! One is "scared of the other race" and the other "don't like that Hussein thing." Sends JS off to chugging out of JD bottle. You just have to laugh (or cry) cuz it's all so crazy. _________________________________________________________________ Make every e-mail and IM count. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ MakeCount ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:42:37 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: What if the Dems had winner-take-all primaries? - NJC ...and what if people who don't wish to read these posts just simply delete them, or better yet, start another topic. Though I've been vocal in the past regarding political discussion, mostly what I objected to was when debates became heated. As far as I can see, people can discuss what ever they wish here and no one is being forced to participate. NJC means exactly what it says - no Joni content. Personally, I don't think this discussion list has anything remotely to do with mass media so I don't really get the comparison. On May 21, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Rob Wh wrote: > .... and what if the Americans on the list - numerous though they be > - took these political "debates" elsewhere (like, perhaps, an > American Politics Discussion List)? It's not as if we foreigners > aren't already being similarly assaulted at every checkout stand at > every corner of the globe ... > > > > > Subject: What if the Dems had winner-take-all primaries? - NJC ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #74 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------