From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #22 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, April 6 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 022 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC More Nick Cave ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] NJC Norwegian artist Sondre Lerche and more ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Re: Pride (In the Name of Love), njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: OMG Cover of NRH [Michael Paz ] joni in film [Mags ] Re: OMG Cover of NRH NJC [Bob Muller ] sjc, Native American Powwow today [Patti Parlette ] Re: OMG...NRH...NJC [Victor Johnson ] Re: OMG Cover of NRH njc ["Kate Bennett" ] njc, Crosby Loggins on Rock the Cradle [Patti Parlette ] Re: SV: OMG Cover of NRH [Victor Johnson ] Re: SV: OMG Cover of NRH ["Randy Remote" ] Joni tribute concert in Chester,CT. [anon anon ] Re: njc, Crosby Loggins on Rock the Cradle ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Herbie & Joni's show on Yahoo ["Mark Scott" ] RE: Man from Mars ["Phyliss Ward" ] Re: investment advice for kakki NJC [David Eoll ] Re: sjc, Native American Powwow today ["Randy Remote" ] Re: sjc, Native American Powwow today ["Randy Remote" Subject: NJC More Nick Cave Dear Benedicte ! Thanks a lot for your interesting and insightful answer. You know the most funny thing was that when I wrote the part about Nick Cave's music as a rite, I hadn't really finished your starting email on Cave, I'd just read the start, which kind of hooked me up and gave me some sweet inspiration, and it was not until I had sent it, that i read all what you had written. And I thought it was so funny and kind of synchrone, it all comes down to some kinda spirituality that we both in a way sense in Nick Cave's music. My backgroound is from the sunday school, I sang soprano in the upstair choir... No, not that but I sang solo in this local church community when I was 9 year old, and that was the end of my solo career ! Since hat all I've done in music has been in company with others, and lately I haven't done or song anything except along with my CD player. So with my background from the sunday school I always find it interesting to read poetry and listen to music that uses metaphors and allusions form the Bible, which is my impression that Nick Cave does quite a lot. I believe I've never listened to Boatman's call. But I have heard about it for a long time. And it certainly is time for me to give it a go. I would be most happy if you sent me the song you were talking about. It would be interesting also to listen to the speech, although selvhxjtidelighet is one of my own issues, thast I have to fight so maybe I shouldn't grow on that one... Furthermore it was very interesting that you mentioned the Cohen movie. I saw it quite recently, and found the part with Nick Cave most interesting. The way he described how seeing that record, "Songs of love and hate" at his girlfriends house, and what huge impact it made on him. And maybe also on his musical career and path is very interesting. I also found it inspiring to watch Cohen himself when he spoke. What strikes me about him, and this may be opposed to Joni, is that he to me seem so little bitter. He just seem to be a wise old man --- but that might just be a play, or it might be the budhism, I don't know. But I know that I like him, and appreciate the kind of air he sets up around him, was that a peculiar sentence or what... Well, it's very late and I should probably go to bed, since I'm working tomorrow. But it was so inspiring to get your reply that I had to answer rightaway... Best! Oddmund Who now is on work, but thought I might share this to the list, as it may be to slight interest to some. And whos's really looking forward to heart the old Joni Mitchell tune Owen mentioned when I'm back home from work today. Bless and Bon weekend ! On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:19 PM, wrote: > Oh Oddmund I'm glad you agree! > > It sounds like you don't know The Boatman's call. I was really woken > up to Nick Cave (so to speak) when "Into my arms" from that CD came > out of my little laptop speakers. I've written about this before... I > always felt _I_ wote this song to someone I love(d), not Cave! > > I'll see if I can send it by YouSendit in a sec. > > I once sent The Secret Life Of The Love Song-The Flesh Made Word, > which is a speech he gave at the University of Vienna, about > song-writing. It's kind of wild and bit.... selvhxjtideligt, yes? > Pompous, I don't know, but very beautifully spoken. Let me know if you > want me to send it to you, it really just is him talking. > > You know what is funny about your reaction? That you say it is almost > like a rite. He is a very religious man, which I am not at all (i'm > not a man for one!), but,well I've said this before, it is something > with the religious connection that catches me. Nothing sanctimonius > here at all (hehe I just maniplated the word scum into your brains > didn't I!?!). > > Enough.. Except I wonder if you saw the film about Leonard Cohen? > Martha & Rufus & the Mcgarrigles (didn't know Kate was their mother) > are in there, and there is a long opening sequence with Cave > performing some of Cohen's songs. He talks about his adoration of > Cohen when he was young in Australia. He was enocuraged by the fact > that Cohen wasn't a good singer, because he himself didn't do well in > the local choir. Only flaw of the film: no Joni. > > OK I said enough! Thanks for letting me know about your listening > experience! It's great that you like him! > > Benedicte > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Oddmund Kaarevik wrote: > > Hi there Benedicte ! > > I'm just listening up on Nick Cave- and I have borrowed the CD with > > "Halleluja" form a friend, > > the CD called "No more shall we part" > > I found it really growing in it's beauty. No, he can't sing, but > > that's the kinda off beauty in it- > > It's kinda raw - it has som edge to it, it doesn 't give itself away > > at first, not to easily acchieved, > > you have to work on it. > > And when you do, when you give it a second listening > > you'll find the songs sneaking and creeping upon you, > > almost like a rite or somehing, > > and you have to give it antother listen and another and another... > > Nick Cave's vocal is just there, > > like his voice and the tone of his voice, > > in a way begins to be a part of me, > > this is not as creepy as it sounds, > > this is just the way his music effects me. > > > > I discover more and more of his musical qualities and not at least his > > talents at writing texts. > > I wonder why didn't I catch up with this great music before.... > > > > The MacGarriggle sister's was kind of an opening gate for me, > > Kate, mother to Rufus and Martha Wainwright and Anna has stuck with me > > for some time. > > I have to listen more to their records, but all I have heard so far > > gives me some inspiration, I think > > they have a genuine interest in music and special gift in sharing > > their enthusiasm all over. > > And me having this weakness for female vocalists was of course already sold ! > > > > When I saw that they were backing choir for Nicke Cave, I had to give in, > > and finally discover some great male vocal music. > > On time !!! > > And I'm sure there may be more > > And I'm also sure Cave's newst album is interesting and intriguing as well ! > > > > Thanks for the-great-music reminder, Benedicte ! > > > > Best ! > > Oddmund ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:43:33 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: NJC Norwegian artist Sondre Lerche and more I've only heard Sondre Lerche in concert once, and that I thin was in 2001. Nowadays I think it's easier to catch up with him in a concert if you live in LA than if you live in Norway. When he released his debut album, amazingly good, I think at the age of 17or 18 his producer was a man touched with a golden gift for good music. He is an institution i Norwegian popular music, his name is HP Gundersen, and last year he released his debut CD after 30 years as a producer. I heard a documentary series about him on Norwegian Radio last fall, and was really blown away of his spirit. I havewn't bought his CD yet, but you can check out some of the tracks at http://www.myspace.com/hpgundersen Another young and very talented norwegian artist is releasing her second album on monday. Her name is Elvira Nikolaisen. They try to persuade me to buy the CD writing that is made in the tradition of 70 music like Laura Nyro and Carole King. I guess I'll have to give it a try. If you want to give it a try too, her myspace is: http://www.myspace.com/nikolaisenelvira Ps. Can't wait to hear Frank Hammersland's Night ride home. He has a nice kinda high voice. Haven't heard him for some years, so that we'll be a nice comeback for me, too. Okay, enough from me ! Best ! Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:51:24 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2008 #7 In a message dated 4/5/2008 3:12:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: 37.5 Bonus points if you can make it all the way to the end: Bob - You have gifted us with a belated April Fool's Day video. Yikes that was bad ... give me Bill Murray's lounge version of "You're No Good." **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 06:52:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Pride (In the Name of Love), njc Bob wrote: Early evening, April 4 Shot rings out in the Memphis sky Free at last, they took your life They could not take your pride Hi Bob, This stanza always runs through my mind when I think of Dr. King. Thanks for posting it. The Unforgettable Fire is a very spiritual album, probably my favorite U2 album. Love, Laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 14:10:01 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: Man from Mars Mark-Leon and Phyllis, I dont know if you're aware that Joni recorded a version of MfM for the movie, arranged and produced by Larry Klein, which got released by mistake on early editions of the soundtrack. It's absolutely gorgeous - not just for the accompaniment and the Joni-esque harmonies from backing singers, but Joni's vocal beats her TTT version hands down, imo. Listening to it, even the 'one big boo-hoo' (which i used to hate) made sense, as the singer sounds as if she's trying to make light of something that's devastated her, which makes the song even more poignant. I think it was the great Bob who made that version available to jmdl folk some time last year. M _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Windows Live is here http://www.windowslive.co.uk/get-live ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:17:28 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Pride (In the Name of Love), njc I saw them on that tour in Tampa ('84) and it was one of the most incredible shows I've ever seen. For those who didn't recognize it, the stanza I posted is from the same album, from a song called MLK. I had a jazz gig last night (reception for a virology conference) and played both of those songs in kind of an interpretive jazz style. I doubt anyone caught on but in a way, that makes it even cooler. I also had fun playing around with Goodbye Pork Pie Hat...such a cool tune! Victor "We all come and go unknown." On Apr 5, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: > Bob wrote: > > Early evening, April 4 > Shot rings out in the Memphis sky > Free at last, they took your life > They could not take your pride > > > Hi Bob, > > This stanza always runs through my mind when I think of Dr. > King. Thanks for posting it. The Unforgettable Fire is a very > spiritual album, probably my favorite U2 album. > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 07:20:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: OMG...NRH...NJC You would think she would have at least ONE friend who likes her enough to say "um.....no". Not to mention the fact that she calls it "4th of July" instead of "Night Ride Home", and even THEN she misspells "4th" as "4ht". It is just one big blob of wrongness. Friends don't let friends post bad Joni covers on YouTube. Bob NP: The Cure, "The Kiss" ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:03:55 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: OMG Cover of NRH What a brilliant performance! With the proper accompaniment this girl could be really dangerous! Had anyone invited her to a JoniFest (perhaps Europe???) Anyone? Bob? Bob? .....Bob? are you there? Chuck or perhaps Derek should step up to the plate here and offer to be her pianist. Please reward my account 37.5 points for checking out the whole thing. Paz In Massachusetts. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Randy Remote wrote: > 37.5 Bonus points if you can make it all the way to the end: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgV2JviV7hE > Because some things are meant to stay private. > Bob No, I did not get my bonus points. Not on this one either: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZXBTVULfiw&feature=related RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: joni in film Mark wrote: <<>> which reminded me that... One of the most poignant Joni moments was in the film Love Actually. Oh, the look on her face when Emma Thompson opens up a gift from her husband on Christmas eve, thinking it's the necklace she saw in his coat pocket earlier (same shaped package) to discover Both Sides Now, the CD. Emma starts to cry, excuses herself, rushes to the bedroom to hide her upset, puts the CD on and completely folds in two, like someone kicked her in the stomach. as the title song fills the air, further reducing her to a grieving mess, she realizes that her husband had given the necklace to his girly in the office. powerful stuff. Mags npimh: Nine Inch Nails, by Ridley Bent - --------------------------------- Instant message from any web browser! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger for the Web BETA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: OMG Cover of NRH NJC Congratulations, Mikey - and it definitely rewards repeat viewings, so watch it again and often. Bob NP: Mitch Easter, "Phantoms of Ephemera" (from one of 2007's best albums from one of our generation's best) ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:38:21 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: sjc, Native American Powwow today Has anyone ever been to a Powwow? Oh, won't you stay, we'll put on the day at the 17th Annual Light the Lodge Powwow Saturday April 5th, 2008 Gampel Pavilion University of Connecticut, Storrs Campus Grand Entry at Noon Host Drum Mystic River w/ Rez Dogs & Kicking Wapiti Northern Singers Native American dancing, singing, and food. Vendors will be on site offering crafts and other items. All are welcome! Please join the Native American Cultural Society as we celebrate with our 17th powwow! ***** "And Indian chiefs with their old beliefs know The balance is undone crazy ions...." My good friend Ted is in charge of this (he's a Lakota Indian......I am Lakota! Lakota! Looking at money man Diggin' the deadly quotas Out of balance Out of hand We want the land!) and I've got the urge for going, to show friendship and support -- I owe him. He did a whole HOUR of Joni-therapy in Starbucks with me on September 25th. (After other friends, like my co-worker Mary, flat out refused when I invited them. Mary's reply: "Are you KIDDING? I'm not going anywhere NEAR that place today!" LOL!) Anyway, if Ted can learn about my Joni culture, I can learn about his Native American one, right? Darn right. NPIMH: All in their beaded leathers I would tie on colored feathers And I'd beat the drum like war I would beat the drum like war I'd beat the drum I'd beat the drum like war....(the fiddle and the drum Looking for the peace and the star.) and the rest of Paprika Plains, of course. And you know there may be more. Maybe we will smoke a peace pipe, and white flags of smoke will wave truce against the moon. Light the Lodge Powwow! Spread our light like blazes, all across the sky! Then I'll hop in the ole Space Buggy (beep beep, RR!) and take the road to Baljenie over to Ashara's old hometown, stop at the bookstore because y'all say the book is on the shelves now, and race over to the free car clinic in my JMDL-recommended Michelin Hydra-Edge tires (no dreaming flat tires pour moi, grace a vous tous!). As they check over my vehicle and vacuum it and shower off the dust -- treating me like a moooOOOOooovie queen -- I'll be sitting on a park bench, sipping tea and lemonade, reading about Joni. Nobody can tell me that I'm doing wrong today. You know, I'm sooooo glad to be on my own! Maybe after that I'll go shopping today for jewels. No, I KNOW! Wampum beads! Maybe I can get some at the powwow! And I want to get moving (to the powwow) And I want to stay still (and tell you the other Joni stuff I have planned for today) But lost in the moment Some longing gets filled.... Wishing you all un tres bon weekend, Patti P., puffing on that peace pipe already (just kidding) _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:01:47 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: OMG...NRH...NJC My favorite part of the whole thing is how she has the keyboard off to one side and she's triggering the chords with one finger, with completely no sense of any stage presence or the slightest concern that someone might actually be watching this. And even at the end, she just clicks it off suddenly. Bob, thanks for providing some laughs on this rainy Saturday morning. Victor plan for the day...go to an organ recital at 3 then go to Phillips Arena to see the Lightning take on the Thrashers, both of whom had awful seasons that they probably can't wait to put behind them. On Apr 5, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > You would think she would have at least ONE friend who likes her > enough to say "um.....no". Not to mention the fact that she calls > it "4th of July" instead of "Night Ride Home", and even THEN she > misspells "4th" as "4ht". It is just one big blob of wrongness. > > Friends don't let friends post bad Joni covers on YouTube. > > Bob > > NP: The Cure, "The Kiss" > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:05:27 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: OMG Cover of NRH njc A self described jazzy version? Da da de da da dum? LOL. As bob commented 'wow'. That kind of performance is like musical mastur**tion- appropriately it was recorded in the bedroom. >At least YOUR dude knows how to change chords. And play chords appropriate to the song. And not try to scat. And not sing each verse/chorus combo 5 times. And the list goes on. Bob< ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:05:54 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Crosby Loggins on Rock the Cradle Just saw a news banner on CNN that led me to google this: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g1Uq0W17__aVyzSB6n8T3nHUaxNgD8VR8UP00 Merde, I missed it the other night! Surely you saw it, Kate. You must be so thrilled for your young friend! Video: http://video.aol.com/video-detail/crosby-loggins-mtvs-rock-the-cradle/3425634700 Way to go! What's so funny about peace, love and understanding? xo, pp _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:34:48 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Shine on lousy leadership and IMPEACH IT! POLITICAL CONTENT (Don't say I didn't warn ya!) Jody and David (who may bake some brownies today) in NH, and other interested people at this party: Here is a message I got from a friend of spirit yesterday. Bring it ON! xo, pp **** April 3, 2008 Daniel Ellsberg to Headline Historic Impeachment Event in Concord Brookline, NH - NH State Representative Betty Hall is hosting Dr. Daniel Ellsberg, Vietnam War critic, for a special event at the Capitol Center for the Arts Monday April 14 at 7pm. It was Ellsberg who released the Pentagon papers which helped end the Vietnam War. Ellsberg will be headlining a group of supporters for Betty Hall's HR24, which, if passed in the NH House would ask the US House to begin an investigation to verify if there is sufficient cause to hold our government leaders responsible, as provided in Jefferson's Manual, Section 603. Hall's petition specifically cites President Bush and Vice-President Cheney. The historic vote will come to the NH House on Wednesday, April 16. If passed, it will represent the first time that a state legislature would have invoked the special privilege to ask the US House for investigations to begin with a President and Vice-President. It does not need to be passed through the NH Senate, nor obtain the signature of NH Governor Lynch. Hall has stated, "My failure to vote for the NH House Resolution for the Nixon Impeachment is the absolutely biggest regret of my legislative career. That is why I am so dedicated to doing this now." Also present will be former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark, who served under President Lyndon B. Johnson; Dr. Robert Bowman, who was the director of the Star Wars missile defense program under Presidents Ford and Carter; John Nichols, writer for The Nation magazine and author of "The Genius of Impeachment: The Founders' Cure for Royalism"; Phil Burk, businessman and impeachment scholar who is versed in the rules of law outlined in Jefferson's Manual. Other dignitaries are rescheduling commitments to attend the historic gathering, which is open to the public. Speakers are scheduled for a 4 pm press conference at the restored Victorian mansion, Kimball House, as well as a 5:30 pm reception with NH State Representatives who will be able to personally exchange opinions with the honored guests. The public is invited to contact the Capitol Center for the Arts for tickets (225-1111) for the Monday April 14, 7pm event; tickets go on sale Monday, April 7. Free on street parking and free parking at the Capital Commons Garage on Storrs Street, after 5:00. Betty Hall 18 Old Milford Road Brookline, NH 03033 603-672-8712 hallmfg@charter.net **** _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653A ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:01:09 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: OMG Cover of NRH I don't know - we're dissing this girl for putting herself (or maybe somebody else did) out on the Internet sounding like most people do when they try to sing a song of Joni's. By sheer coincidence, I woke up this morning with this very song on my mind and was humming it while making my coffee. Luckily nobody else was around! Then I read my mail and found the link. And watching it for a while, (not all the way through), I thought - why not? Are only the very talented allowed to sing? Must everybody else enjoy Joni's songs in silence? Of course I have no idea of why this was put out on youtube, if it's meant as a joke or if some ex is getting back at her - -but some other ordinary people with little talent might have found the courage to sing in their showers this morning, since she did it on the internet and didn't sound any better than them. See what I mean? Peace and music to everyone, Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Michael Paz Skickat: den 5 april 2008 17:04 Till: Randy Remote Kopia: Bob Muller; JMDL Dmne: Re: OMG Cover of NRH What a brilliant performance! With the proper accompaniment this girl could be really dangerous! Had anyone invited her to a JoniFest (perhaps Europe???) Anyone? Bob? Bob? .....Bob? are you there? Chuck or perhaps Derek should step up to the plate here and offer to be her pianist. Please reward my account 37.5 points for checking out the whole thing. Paz In Massachusetts. Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Randy Remote wrote: > 37.5 Bonus points if you can make it all the way to the end: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgV2JviV7hE > Because some things are meant to stay private. > Bob No, I did not get my bonus points. Not on this one either: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZXBTVULfiw&feature=related RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:55:21 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: SV: OMG Cover of NRH On Apr 5, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Marion Leffler wrote: > , I thought - > why not? Are only the very talented allowed to sing? Must everybody > else > enjoy Joni's songs in silence? I don't think anyone was suggesting that only certain people should be allowed to sing. I think anyone who has a desire to express themselves musically should be afforded the opportunity, through whatever medium. However.....if someone is going to put something out for everybody in the world to watch/listen to, then they should be prepared to be critiqued by their audience. Just because someone is not a "professional" or trained musician doesn't mean they get a free pass. And getting inspired to sing a song is one thing, but her "arrangement" was so far off from the original, had no semblance of any organization, and just had problems on many different levels...it wasn't even about her voice really. Victor, who does not sing in the shower ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:17:04 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: SV: OMG Cover of NRH Yeah, I can kind of see your point, Marion. The real point of music is enjoyment-so more power to her for expressing herself and having fun. On the other hand-one person's enjoyment might not be another's... ; ) RR From: "Marion Leffler" I don't know - we're dissing this girl for putting herself (or maybe somebody else did) out on the Internet sounding like most people do when they try to sing a song of Joni's. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 14:56:19 -0400 From: anon anon Subject: Joni tribute concert in Chester,CT. Hi everyone, I forgot to mention that I went to a Joni Mitchell tribute concert in Chester, Connecticut last weekend... Was anyone else there? a whole bunch of performers were singing Joni songs... It was a fun day... _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:21:36 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: njc, Crosby Loggins on Rock the Cradle Subject: njc, Crosby Loggins on Rock the Cradle > Way to go! What's so funny about peace, love and understanding? (which is the song he sang).... ...yes I did watch this new MTV version of American Idol. Most of them were pretty terrible, and I will watch it again when they get down to the only two that are ready for the music biz- Crosby and Joe Walsh's daughter Lucy. I think Crosby was the only one with any previous onstage experience, and he pulled it off pretty well. Also, the whole show suffered from a poor sound mix that ironically (or luckily) buried the vocals. And the announcer was annoying, although I realize that it's an MTV tradition going way back. Who says guys can't be bimbos? RR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:01:07 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: OMG Cover of NRH Give me the bonus points. If I hadn't known what this song was supposed to be I'm not sure I would have recognized it. This woman seems to have almost completely re-composed the melody and chord structure. The thing is, to me, she doesn't sound awful. She has an ok voice and it's not like she's singing flat....she's just not singing the right notes. And I don't think it's a joke. She seems to have a genuine belief in what she's doing. Weird. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "JMDL" Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:11 PM Subject: OMG Cover of NRH > 37.5 Bonus points if you can make it all the way to the end: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgV2JviV7hE > > Because some things are meant to stay private. > > Bob > > NP: Colored Wolf, "The Magdalene Laundries" > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of > Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:12:44 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Herbie & Joni's show on Yahoo I just watched and listened to River. Moisture in the eyes and overwhelmed with emotion. A thing of rare beauty. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cassy" To: "JMDL" Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Herbie & Joni's show on Yahoo > Herbie's show with Joni's is finally up on Yahoo at: > > http://music.yahoo.com/promo-31904706 > > I haven't had a chance to view it yet, I'm looking forward to > savoring it tomorrow when I have the time to sit and enjoy it... > maybe do a little dancing in my den. > > Warmly, > Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:15:52 -0400 From: "Phyliss Ward" Subject: RE: Man from Mars Thanks Michel. Luckily I've been lurking around here (off and on) long enough to have gotten a copy when it first came out. And I agree...great version! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:15:20 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: investment advice for kakki NJC > From: > Subject: NJC From Both Sides Now > > (And if there are any smart financial advisors here who have words of advice > on how to preserve/save my retirement account for the coming debacle, I would > love to hear from you - though I doubt we have many/any of them here). > Actually I do know a few and have been begging them to advise me but even they > are scared - which is a bad sign. Canned goods, dry goods, bottled water, and firearms are probably not a bad bet right now. Oh! And a can *opener*. Very important. It'd be kind of frustrating to get stuck without that. Hand-operated can openers will probably be worth about 5 Krugerrands apiece. (credit where credit is due to Father Guido Sarducci) Bon fortuna, David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 11:46:43 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: sjc, Native American Powwow today Have fun, Patti. I hope you get to pow AND wow. The Girls Like Us book is order-able on Amazon even though it lists the release (in the US-it's already out in the UK) as Tuesday. Somewhat related-on the following Tuesday (15th) a 2CD version of Tapestry is being released. Disc two is all the Tapestry songs in order, culled from solo live shows in the mid 70's. Amazon also has a video posted of "Natural Woman" from Ms. King's heyday that is way cool. http://tinyurl.com/6yjwas Is "Girls Like Us" a double entendre? Given that Carole King and Joni were kinda seen as a 'chick thing' back then? RR ps re my last post-Eddie Money's daughter was pretty good, too. Sorry Eddie Money's daughter. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:13:06 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: singers and not >> In response to comments about the youtube videos of people >> covering Joni's music poorly: >> A lot of people not only love to sing, but think they can sing >> well and *want to perform*. I'm embarrassed for them, fairly >> often, up there on a stage singing their little hearts out, poorly >> (sounding as bad as nails on a chalkboard sometimes), and then >> after the performance, I've heard people tell them they have a >> beautiful voice!! >> >> This explains the Idol tryouts. But what is the matter with people >> who lie to others, thus encouraging them to make fools of >> themselves in front of everyone? Are their own ears that bad? Must >> be. >> >> Shudder. >> >> This is why, most times I am complimented on my voice or singing, >> I take it with a very large grain of salt. >> >> I know that listeners' tastes are oh-so-very different. Someone >> just posted about loving Sarah Sleane's cover of a Joni song. I'm >> not sure which one I heard Ms Sleane do on the radio one day, but >> I recall being shocked at how bad it was. It grated on every nerve >> in my ears, and not just because it wasn't the version I was >> accustomed to. It sounded flat and out of tune. Different strokes >> for different folks, for sure. >> >> I'm all for singing in the shower or while walking down country >> roads or working in your kitchen or in a group singalong, no >> matter how badly one sings. I just wish people who can't sing >> wouldn't do it on the stage when I am stuck in the audience. In >> my home town, no matter how terribly someone sings (I sat through >> a Christmas carol festival in December that was absolutely >> Painful; some of those people had no business being up there), >> people will applaud politely afterward and tell you later how much >> they enjoyed it. I've told my sister that if ever, ever I sing in >> public and sound that bad, she is not to spare my feelings by >> lying to me. She is to make sure I know, so that I don't do it again. >> >> I'm a bit of a perfectionist, granted. If I was a performer, I'd >> be a diva, maybe hard to work with. >> >> Kate of the North >> http://xoetc.antville.org >> Who Does She Think She Is? ps Les, since I unsubbed from the Joni-only digest and re-subbed to the Joni-only individual mails, when I hit Reply my response goes only to the person who originally posted. Is there something I can do to change that, aside from remembering to change the address in the To: field each time? -K. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:43:47 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: sjc, Native American Powwow today Ms. Information sez it will be released on Tues. the 22nd. > Somewhat related-on the following Tuesday (15th) > a 2CD version of Tapestry is being released. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:58:45 -0600 From: Robert Procyk Subject: a couple annoying Sask. errors in Girls Like Us I am behind on digests so I don't know who has all been reading Girls Like Us - mine arrived last Monday (a week earlier than I thought), and I am about 1/4 through it, and while I can't put it down when I actually get the time to look at it, I am annoyed at the following errors about Saskatchewan: First, Saskatoon is NOT 1600 miles north of the North Dakota border - more like 350 or so. Second, Saskatoon is NOT the capital of Saskatchewan - Regina is. Third, The Regina Leader-Post would not have been Joni's "local paper". 4th, Prince Albert (where I live) is NOT 200 miles north of Saskatoon, but about 70 miles. Waskesiu is NOT located in Prince Albert, but in Prince Albert National Park, which is about 45 miles from here. I am just annoyed that Weller went to all the trouble to interview everyone and their dog about the three women, but doesn't fact-check Saskatchewan at all, which wouldn't bother most people, but for me, it's sloppy and makes m e wonder how much everything else pans out. Rant over, Rob ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #22 **************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------