From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2008 #7 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, March 25 2008 Volume 2008 : Number 007 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- re: Obama double standard [David Eoll ] Re: Re : Earth Hour, NJC [Mark-Leon Thorne ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:24:38 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: re: Obama double standard From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: NJC Obama > it is all very silly to be tied to someone else's words. This brings up an important point. Namely, the double standard that Obama is being held to. Horrible, intolerant, and IMHO far worse statements are uttered by white evangelicals all the time. And white politicians (Republicans mostly) who associate with them are rarely called upon to renounce, or even distance themselves from, these statements. Never mind turn their backs forever upon the person who uttered them. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell say that 9/11 was God's punishment for our toleration of homosexuality, feminism, and other sins. Yes, yes, I know that Wright has made the claim that America brought 9/11 on itself. But, his claim is that it was the actions of the US Government that we elected that led to 9/11. And sure enough, bin Laden himself has named specific actions by the US Government as his justification for launching that attack and others against the US. Even the US intelligence community acknowledges the effect of our actions abroad causing unforeseen retaliation against us. They call it 'blowback'. The white evangelicals, on the other hand, specifically blame the victims. They were killed because of their wickedness, because they tolerated gays, and abortion, and blah, blah, blah. A perfect recent example is John Hagee who regularly denounces gays, catholics, and other groups, and blames Hurricane Katrina on the wickedness of the people of New Orleans. And he endorses John McCain. In fact, McCain specifically asked for his endorsement. Not only has no one demanded that McCain throw Hagee under the bus, McCain still makes campaign appearances with Hagee (he needs those votes). He actually shares a stage with him, gets his picture taken, etc. And apparently that's okay. McCain has ignored it and that's that, it was hardly a speed bump, never mind derailing his campaign the way Obama's is being derailed (his polls are taking a beating because of this). Total double standard. I posted a whole other message debating whether Wright's words are defensible or indefensible, but that's beside the point here. The point being that its odd that this new rule that politicians are responsible for the words of their pastors suddenly comes into effect only when a black Democrat is involved. Funny how that is. Respectfully, David Eoll ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:53:38 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Re : Earth Hour, NJC Maybe Indonesia could stop cutting down the rainforest instead. Mark. On 24/03/2008, at 11:19 PM, rian afriadi wrote: > Jakarta may not participate in Earth Hour program, but we have > another version of earth hour. > > For more than 3 days a year, we don't use any electricity!!! > > Are Indonesians that eco-friendly?? > > Hmmm... not really. It was electricity blackout. The government > fails to provide us enough electricity. And it was a disaster. > Jakarta is a huge city inhabited by more than 15 millions people. > But... > > Last year, i had one of those stupid blackout while I was studying > for my advanced accounting final exam. ("DAAAAAMN!!!!") > > Rian > who hates accounting but must face it since he works for the > taxation authority. > NP- Carly Simon - You're So Vain > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2008 #7 *************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------