From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #615 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, March 21 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 615 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni 74 dvd ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: obama njc ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Obama's speech, njc [Laura Stanley ] njc antiSemitism and Holy Week/Easter ["Laurent Olszer" ] njc, Barack's Basketball Bracketology [Patti Parlette ] Eric Clapton/Joni/The Laurel Canyon Scene ["Lindsay Moon" ] Hadn't heard this one before... ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: mystery child on back of DJRD ["Randy Remote" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:59:51 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Joni 74 dvd Currently on dimeadozen : Joni Mitchell with Tom Scott and the LA Express Old Grey Whistle Test 1974-11-19 Broadcast Date 1974-04-22 Performance Date NTSC DVD This should take your mind off politics Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:03:45 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: obama njc From: "Patti Parlette" > The day of the speech, my friend Franco called, in tears. He's a > professor of Italian literature, a scholar in humanities. He said: > "Finally! A candidate who can WRITE! And THINK! Just goes to show how low our expectations have become in 8 short years. Which have felt like an eternity. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:20:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Obama's speech, njc Hi Ya'll, I didn't hear the speech, I read it... a friend sent it to me. I wasn't moved by it reading it. So, I am wondering if Barack's delivery of it somehow made it more impressive. The content didn't seem noteworthy. It wasn't anything new other than his thoughts about his particular minister who blundered. It is unfortunate that Obama comes from a segregated church congregation. My church is predominantly white pastured by a black priest so I don't think of segregation in regard to church. I wouldn't want to be a member of a church like his. The generations younger than Obama's minister are mostly beyond the minister's prejudice. All the attention over the minister's remarks seem to me to be a step backwards rather than a step forwards. Just say the word "prejudice" and people start thinking of prejudice. I think it would have been far more effective for Obama to say in just a few words that his minister was wrong. All the explanation and expansion of the topic in his lengthy speech was counterproductive in my opinion. Love, Laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:00:34 +0100 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: njc antiSemitism and Holy Week/Easter Thanks Deb and Vince for raising and commenting on this issue. Vince it's good to read your posts again. Lately i'm just appalled at all the comments on youtube. I'm not even talking about the anti zionist/semitic videos themselves. But a simple preview of a sitcom has comments such as < another jew bastard on tv > and Eliot Spitzer videos are full of such attacks. There is a great analysis if you want to understand the whole mechanism on : Online Antisemitism 2.0. "Social Antisemitism" on the "Social Web"* http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DRIT=3 &DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=253&PID=0&IID=2054&TTL=Online_Antisemitism_2.0. _%22Social_Antisemitism%22_on_the_%22Social_Web%22* Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:46:04 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: SV: Hadn't heard this one before... Yes, maybe her friends were that protective. Still, it adds a dimension to her hanging out days. It cant have been a pleasant experience, having cops come to your house to arrest your friends. Marion _____ Fren: Monika Bogdanowicz [mailto:motitan75@yahoo.com] Skickat: den 20 mars 2008 19:51 Till: Joni people!; Marion Leffler Dmne: Re: SV: Hadn't heard this one before... Perhaps one of the guys took Joni's pot and the blame for it? Anyhow, I believe this was the time where Stephen Stills was present but when the cops came in he somehow snuck through a window and avoided arrest. I believe Neil Young was very, very angry about Stephen's move. - -Monika Marion Leffler wrote: And Joni herself wasn't? Strange... - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Les Irvin Skickat: den 20 mars 2008 17:07 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Hadn't heard this one before... March 20, 1968: Eric Clapton, Richie Furay, Jim Messina and Neil Young are all arrested at Joni Mitchell's house on charges of possessing marijuana. http://rockmine.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/today-in-music-march-20th/ _____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:01:16 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: obama njc Apologies to all who are sick to death of this subject! I'll be brief (for once, LOL!). Kate wrote: This is what he meant about the necessity of addressing the root of anger before we can move on & let go. And he emphatically stated it was time to move beyond anger. *** The root of anger. Yes, we must get to the bottom of it. When you dig down deep, you lose good sleep, and it makes you heavy company, but it must be done. You have to get down to the heart of the matter. They all laugh at angry young men They all laugh at Edison And also at Einstein: "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Peace cannot be kept by force; it can only be achieved by understanding. (Sorry if you can't understand the Jonidiomatic logic that goes on in my head.) Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:16:46 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, Barack's Basketball Bracketology Just throwing a little lightness on these things for the college basketball fans here: Barack has his money on UNC, Bob and Joseph and Mrs. SCJoniguy! http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/539879.html I can't read his brackets (too small) so I wonder where he put my UConn. Doesn't much matter. I don't think our men are going real far this year, but ya never know. Our 7'3" Thabeet is the best shot blocker in the country. But our women? Look out! Our women must have everything. Our women must have everything. I wish I could find Vince's Joni/basketball story from a few years ago. It was really a hoot. Love and three-pointers to your teams, Patti P., who dreamt that Joni came to UConn when both of our teams won the whole shebang in 2004 and I was torn between going to the victory parade or running off with Joni to the Performing Arts Center _________________________________________________________________ Test your Star IQ http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_HMTAGMAR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:27:34 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: NJC Obama Monika might have been trolling when she closed with, >Also, could you imagine if white people had "white history month?"> And the cliched 'comeback' is "every month is white history month". In my public school education, "American History" always started at "Plymouth Rock," eh? Jim L'Hommedieu P.S. Does punctuation belong inside the quotes or not? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:44:52 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Eric Clapton/Joni/The Laurel Canyon Scene Odd that there was discussion of the Henry Diltz photo with Joni, Crosby and Eric Clapton and then Les found this link: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:06:42 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: Hadn't heard this one before... March 20, 1968: Eric Clapton, Richie Furay, Jim Messina and Neil Young are all arrested at Joni Mitchell's house on charges of possessing marijuana. http://rockmine.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/today-in-music-march-20th/ If you read farther down, it cites that on this day (March 20) in 1991 Eric Clapton's son Conor fell to his death in NYC. Tragic. I just read EC's autobiography and was hoping to find a word or two on his impressions of Joni, but sad to say there were none. I'd love to know his remembrances of meeting and hearing her in that time (if he wasn't too stoned.) Amazing he lived through what he did. And amazing to read how shy and insecure he can be about his musical abilities when he feels intimidated by other performers. Here he is thought to be *the* guitar god and he's nearly apoplectic backstage at the Us festival I think it was, listening to the acts before him and thinking he wouldn't be good enough. Ha. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:03:26 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: njc, Barack's Basketball Bracketology Sweet Patti, I haven't been keeping up with the JMDL much lately, but if the UConn Huskies don't win, I'm with Barack's choice of UNC. No doubt the Huskie women will win! Jimmy, who's waiting for football season again :) In a message dated 3/20/2008 8:20:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, loveuconn@hotmail.com writes: > Just throwing a little lightness on these things for the college basketball > fans here: > > Barack has his money on UNC, Bob and Joseph and Mrs. SCJoniguy! > ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:00:31 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: SV: Hadn't heard this one before... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" To: "Joni people!" ; "Marion Leffler" Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: SV: Hadn't heard this one before... > Perhaps one of the guys took Joni's pot and the blame for it? > Anyhow, I believe this was the time where Stephen Stills was present > but when the cops came in he somehow snuck through a window and > avoided arrest. I believe Neil Young was very, very angry about > Stephen's move. > -Monika > > Marion Leffler wrote: > And Joni herself wasn't? Strange... Everybody's saying that Hell's the hippest way to go Well I don't think so But I'm gonna Take a look around it though... I know Joni has admitted to doing her share of cocaine during the 70s but I wonder how much she participated otherwise in the whole drug scene. The above seems to imply that she was a spectator to a lot of things rather than a participant. Maybe. Maybe not, too. Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:54:33 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: njc, the courage and the grace of Barack Flipping through the newspaper, the title of this opinion piece, "Courage and Grace", reeled in my JMOCDed mind. Of course, I started singing: Spirit of the water Give us all the courage and the grace To make genius of this tragedy unfolding The genius to save this place. Alors, voila: "Courage and Grace "If Barack Obama is elected president, his speech on race in America will be remembered as one of the greatest in the country's history. If he loses, it will still be remembered as a terrific speech, an astonishing display of grace under pressure. Those who care about the American dilemma  a racial history that contradicts our stated beliefs  will filter their perceptions through their own life experience, their own political bias, their own emotional stake in this particular election. Whatever the political effect, however, the man obviously said what he really thought. He told the truth: We are all racists......" The whole thing is here, for anyone interested: http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-reeves0320.artmar20,0,6806835.story Uh oh! Another Joni song just came to me: No one knows how to shoulder the blame Or learn from past mistakes... So who will come to save the day? Mighty Mouse? Superman? Can Obama make truth and justice the American way again? He holds out a candle and he shines it in, and I beg him to show us how to fix it again. "I know no one's going to show me everything...", but at least there is some hope out there in the darkness. Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_realtime_042008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:03:01 -0400 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: mystery child on back of DJRD > From: "Randy Remote" > Subject: Re: JMDL retrospective NJC > > From: "David Eoll" >>So, all of a sudden the past week, DJRD is, like, totally my new >>favorite Joni album. I've got a question. The kid on the back cover >>dressed like an indian. Is that who I think it might be? > > Yep. Steve Martin. I was actually thinking Stephen Hawking. Seriously, anyone know if its Joni as a child. I can't tell. Cheers, David ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:48:18 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Hadn't heard this one before... LOL... me neither, Jimmy never told that story at our joni tribute... >Hadn't heard this one before... March 20, 1968: Eric Clapton, Richie Furay, Jim Messina and Neil Young are all arrested at Joni Mitchell's house on charges of possessing marijuana. http://rockmine.wordpress.com/2008/03/20/today-in-music-march-20th/< ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:00:34 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: mystery child on back of DJRD >> From: "David Eoll" >>>So, all of a sudden the past week, DJRD is, like, totally my new >>>favorite Joni album. I've got a question. The kid on the back cover >>>dressed like an indian. Is that who I think it might be? >> >> Yep. Steve Martin. > > I was actually thinking Stephen Hawking. > > Seriously, anyone know if its Joni as a child. I can't tell. I would stake my reputation on it being her. No money, mind you. The eyes-the serious demeaner...it looks like her to me. Also, as you may already know, the black guy on the front is her, too. I guess there is a movie called Love in which she cavorts around in the same getup. The little boy is not her, to the best of my knowledge. RR ps I love this album-it might be my favorite ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #615 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------