From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #595 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, March 5 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 595 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) [Jerry Nota] RE: Hillary or Barack, njc [anon anon ] "experiance"(NJC) [anon anon ] Re: 60 minutes NJC [Patti Parlette ] RE: Joni's Voice (smoking!) [anon anon ] RE: njc, America music, now Steve Earle & Allison Moorer [Patti Parlette ] I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) [missblux@googl] NJC John de Ruiter anyone? [missblux@googlemail.com] RE: New book on Carole, Joni & Carly 2nd try [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Tori covers Joni - NJC [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Watch this video at Amazon.com ["PassScribe@aol.com" ] RE: New book on Carole, Joni & Carly ["Ross, Les" ] Re: Tori covers Joni [Bob Muller ] Re: I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) [Catherine ] RE: njc, America music, now Steve Earle & Allison Moorer [Bob.Muller@Fluo] RE: New book on Carole, Joni & Carly 2nd try ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: Hillary or Barack, njc ["gene" ] joni boox excerpt [KEVIN DOHENY ] Re: Hillary or Barack, njc [Jeannie ] Re:I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) [Michael ] RE: New book on Carole, Joni & Carly [mia _ ] Re: shining hissing smoking [Eric Taylor ] Re: High Flying Bird, Leiber&Stoller, and Joan Collins NJC [David Eoll Subject: Re: I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) > Jerry, > > the link is here: www.myspace.com/owenduff . Somewhere down the page > there is a pictre of the EP, and you click on it.Enjoy! > > > Bene Thanks, Bene. I got it and it is wonderful. Owen is a true talent. Lots of great things going on with his music. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:49:47 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: RE: Hillary or Barack, njc I > Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:57:12 -0800 From: mark.travis@gte.net > Subject: Re: Hillary or Barack, njc > To: guitarzan@hughes.net; joni@smoe.org > > I will vote for the Democratic nominee. But in my heart of hearts, I > am doubtful that any of the candidates will really affect real > 'change.' I fear that the real power brokers have too much money, too > much power, too strong a grip on our political process to make > effective change possible. > > Mark in Seattle I think the important thing is to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, which is the democrat. Are the democrats perfect? of course not, far from it. but they are still a lot better then the republicans, generally speaking... Obama will be an excellent president! and it may not be politically correct to say, but Anna Quindlen was right when she pointed out that John Macain is too old to be president... Of course there are are a thousand other reasons that he shouldn't be president, but the age question is relevant.. . _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:54:31 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: "experiance"(NJC) the thing about experience is that it doesn't necessarilly mean the person in question will become a good president... look at Cheney, for example... he had plenty of experience when he becaome vice president, and look where it led us... _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 06:15:31 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Re: 60 minutes NJC Paz wrote: I saw that and it made my skin crawl. I have been involved with so many groups of doctors going to Honduras thru the Ruth Paz Foundation, International Hospital for Children, and Interplast and know what those medical missions mean to the people of third world countries, but never did it cross my mind that it would have even more meaning for medical missions within our own country. *** Thank you, Kate and Paz. I was so moved, and so upset, by that. WTF? Can you imagine, people driving so far, in such pain, for basic health care, and then to be turned away? If I had a heart..... xo, pp "If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." -- John Lennon http://www.imaginepeace.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:58:47 -0500 From: anon anon Subject: RE: Joni's Voice (smoking!) > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:47:42 +0100 > From: missblux@googlemail.com > To: ewwt@earthlink.net; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Joni's Voice (smoking!) > > Eric said: > > i feel like a broken record stating this yet again BUT i MUCH prefer joni's > post Hejira voice ~ particularly post Night Ride Home. > > Me: > > Call me a broken record too, because I have said this before: my no 1 > Joni album is Hejira, my no 2 is BSN, and I love BSN especially > because first time I heard it I was so touched with her mature voice. > The history in it! > > But I don't know what is wrong with saying that smoking damaged her > voice. Yes, she says this is not so and that some sort of physical > therapy fixed it. I don't hear any difference and wonder if she was > given some sort of alternative treatment that she believed in but that > didn't really work. What if she herself is not sure what is wrong with > her voice but is fed up with everyone going on about it for the past > fifty years which seems to be as long as she has smoked? I don't think > she is above that sort of reaction. > > I tend to say that I don't like Travelogue because there are tracks on > it that really annoy me. But then I put it on and there are tracks > that are SO MOVING.... So I'm with you, some of the way! > > Bene I absolutely adore Joni's young pretty voice... her voice around the time of MOA and HOSL was just perfect, the meeting point of sweetness and maturity... _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:16:57 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: njc, America music, now Steve Earle & Allison Moorer gene wrote: > thanks patti for the steve earle info. steve is one of many > under-appreciated singer/songwriters today. it's a no brainer to see > people like steve earle---it's always in a smaller venues and much more > personal. > let's take back our country, gene > I'm embarrassed to say that I didn't know much about Steve Earle until he went to support Cindy Sheehan at Camp Casey in the summer of 2005. He and Joan Baez were, to my knowledge, the only two musicians who showed up to support her. Let's take our country back, indeed. Sorry for yet another moldie oldie, Bob, mais voila what is now playing in my heart and mind: Now I've been happy lately, thinking about the good things to come And I believe it could be, something good has begun Oh I've been smiling lately, dreaming about the world as one And I believe it could be, some day it's going to come Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again Now I've been smiling lately, thinking about the good things to come And I believe it could be, something good has begun Oh peace train sounding louder Glide on the peace train Come on now peace train Yes, peace train holy roller Everyone jump upon the peace train Come on now peace train Get your bags together, go bring your good friends too Cause it's getting nearer, it soon will be with you Now come and join the living, it's not so far from you And it's getting nearer, soon it will all be true Now I've been crying lately, thinking about the world as it is Why must we go on hating, why can't we live in bliss Cause out on the edge of darkness, there rides a peace train Oh peace train take this country, come take me home again Settle down into the clickety-clack of the peace train, with the clouds and the peace and the stars to read. Tomorrow is a big day in the U.S.A. Let's all just send up our prayers for the best. Love & Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:01:10 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) Owen, I' dowloading your EP right now. You have a great voice and I love the way you use it, the way it weaves up and down, it's very upbeat and, ah well I'm not a music critic, but I like it! I hope you be playing somewhere next time I'm in the UK! Jerry, the link is here: www.myspace.com/owenduff . Somewhere down the page there is a pictre of the EP, and you click on it.Enjoy! Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:09:02 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC John de Ruiter anyone? Hi all, last night I went to a seminar by Canadian, uhm, philosopher / guru / I don't know what... Cosmic medium? John de Ruiter. A strange experience, and I don't know what to think, I went because my friend has followed him for the last seven years, so I was curious. Yes, come to think of it I know I won't go again, but that doesn't mean he isn't Jesus Christ as some seem to think! Anyway, I don't want to write a long post, if noone knows him, I was just interested in hearing people's opinoins, if any of you has one that is.... ? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:34:57 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: New book on Carole, Joni & Carly 2nd try To say the least! Can't wait to read the rest of it...Sheila Weller has REALLY done her homework. Bob NP: B.B. 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I was going to mention River as another Joni cover but someone beat me to it. Next time you are You Tube search for Tori's"live" cover of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit" (that is if you have not had a chance to already see this). It is truly amazing. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Suite 1200 Seattle, WA 98144-2734 http://www.amazon.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:01:14 -0000 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: New book on Carole, Joni & Carly ...this is a bit of a tease...at least for me. I've not heard anything about this. Can anyone elucidate? "During their time on Huron Street, neither Joni Anderson nor Duke Redbird could have any idea that, thirty years later, by multiple coincidences, he would be the one to lead Joni's long-relinquished grown daughter to her." Who is this Duke Redbird character and what did he have to do with reuniting Joni and Kilauren? Nice post though, thanks for that. LesLon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:45:46 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Tori covers Joni and further to that, she has sung snippets of BSN in a medley with "Cloud On My Tongue". Bob NP: Elton John, "High Flying Bird" ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:47:06 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) Owen, I remember that, a while back, you either sent to me or pointed me to a place where I could download some of your songs, including "Morning Finsbury Park" and "Any Captain worth his due" which I see are on your EP which I am now downloading. (As of now it has been downloaded and unzipped and THANK YOU for including the extras, such as the lyrics and background info on each song - beautiful!) Count me as a fan of yours. I love your voice and your music and I wish for good things for you! - --- missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > Owen, > > I' dowloading your EP right now. You have a great > voice and I love the > way you use it, the way it weaves up and down, it's > very upbeat and, > ah well I'm not a music critic, but I like it! > > I hope you be playing somewhere next time I'm in the > UK! > > Jerry, > > the link is here: www.myspace.com/owenduff . > Somewhere down the page > there is a pictre of the EP, and you click on > it.Enjoy! > > > Bene > Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:58:55 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: njc, America music, now Steve Earle & Allison Moorer Yes, shame shame shame...moldy & tired. Since Steve Earle is the topic, a better choice would be his "Rich Man's War" (Peace Train? Just a dream some of us had....): Jimmy joined the army bcause he had no place to go There ainbt nobody hirinb bround here since all the jobs went down to Mexico Reckoned that hebd learn himself a trade maybe see the world Move to the city someday and marry a black haired girl Somebody somewhere had another plan Now hebs got a rifle in his hand Rollinb into Baghdad wonderinb how he got this far Just another poor boy off to fight a rich manbs war Bobby had an eagle and a flag tattooed on his arm Red white and blue to the bone when he landed in Kandahar Left behind a pretty young wife and a baby girl A stack of overdue bills and went off to save the world Been a year now and hebs still there Chasinb ghosts in the thin dry air Meanwhile back at home the finance company took his car Just another poor boy off to fight a rich manbs war When will we ever learn When will we ever see We stand up and take our turn And keep tellinb ourselves webre free Ali was the second son of a second son Grew up in Gaza throwing bottles and rocks when the tanks would come Ainbt nothinb else to do around here just a game children play Somethinb bbout livinb in fear all your life makes you hard that way He answered when he got the call Wrapped himself in death and praised Allah A fat man in a new Mercedes drove him to the door Just another poor boy off to fight a rich manbs war It's never too late to catch up, PP! :o) Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "Human Wheels" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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But when I'm feeling really pissed off I play Amerika v. 6.0 (The Best We Can Do) (Steve Earle) Look at ya Yeah, take a look in the mirror now tell me what you see Another satisfied customer in the front of the line for the American dream I remember when we was both out on the boulevard Talkin' revolution and singin' the blues Nowadays it's letters to the editor and cheatin' on our taxes Is the best that we can do Come on Look around There's doctors down on Wall Street Sharpenin' their scalpels and tryin' to cut a deal Meanwhile, back at the hospital We got accountants playin' God and countin' out the pills Yeah, I know, that sucks - that your HMO Ain't doin' what you thought it would do But everybody's gotta die sometime and we can't save everybody It's the best that we can do Four score and a hundred and fifty years ago Our forefathers made us equal as long as we can pay Yeah, well maybe that wasn't exactly what they was thinkin' Version six-point-oh of the American way But hey we can just build a great wall around the country club To keep the riff-raff out until the slump is through Yeah, I realize that ain't exactly democratic, but it's either them or us and And it's the best we can do Spoken during fade out: Yeah, compassionate conservative It's the best we can do Conservative compassion It's the best we can do Meanwhile, still thinkin' Hey, let's wage a war on drugs It's the best we can do Well, I don't know about you, but I kinda dig this global warming thing... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:36:08 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: njc, America music, now Jimmy Buffett & Steve Earle & Allison Moorer On Mar 4, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > Jimmy joined the army bcause he had no place to go > There ainbt nobody hirinb > bround here since all the jobs went > down to Mexico > Speaking of Jimmy, I was recently booked to play an engagement party near Emory University with one distinction- they want all Jimmy Buffett. So being the mercenary that I am, I threw together a trio with my friend Ray (who Bob and Michael met at the YES Chastain show) on percussion and my other friend, Doug Morten (an amazing guitarist who played with Vassar Clements at one time and currently jams with Otiel's drummer every week at a local blues bar) and have been learning a boatload -no pun intended- of Buffett songs. I have been struck by what a great songwriter he is and how big a catalogue of songs he has. We quickly went through "Songs You Know By Heart" which came out way back in 84 and so I picked up the box set from 92 and have been learning several from that collection which still leaves 16 more years to check out. We have till mid-April so plenty of time but so far its been a lot of fun. To add a little variety, I made the caveat that we can also play songs that Jimmy Buffett has covered which actually covers a wide range...from Bob Marley, to Hendrix, Grateful Dead, etc...no Joni though. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: njc, America music, now Jimmy Buffett & Steve Earle & Allison Moorer - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > made the caveat that we can also play songs that Jimmy Buffett has > covered which actually covers a wide range...from Bob Marley, to > Hendrix, Grateful Dead, etc...no Joni though. > will you do "Uncle John's Band"? another good one he's covered is Lyle Lovett's "If I had a Boat".... have fun! Em ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:25:53 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: njc, America music, now Jimmy Buffett & Steve Earle & Allison Moorer On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Em wrote: > > will you do "Uncle John's Band"? > > another good one he's covered is Lyle Lovett's "If I had a Boat".... > have fun! > Em Yes....and Scarlet Begonias as well! I'll have to check out "If I had a Boat". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:41:11 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: If I Had a Boat (njc) I found Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds doing this on youtube - http:// youtube.com/watch?v=kdJJ3w3xKjQ This song is awesome...the verse about Tonto is hilarious! Victor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:14:00 -0800 From: "gene" Subject: Re: Hillary or Barack, njc age, race, and gender has never defined a good or bad leader. with that being said, wonder who will be mc cains vice president nominee. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "anon anon" To: "Mark Scott" ; "Randy Remote" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: RE: Hillary or Barack, njc > I > >> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:57:12 -0800 > From: mark.travis@gte.net >> Subject: Re: Hillary or Barack, njc >> To: guitarzan@hughes.net; joni@smoe.org >> >> I will vote for the Democratic nominee. But in my heart of hearts, I >> am doubtful that any of the candidates will really affect real >> 'change.' I fear that the real power brokers have too much money, too >> much power, too strong a grip on our political process to make >> effective change possible. >> >> Mark in Seattle > > > I think the important thing is to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, which > is > the democrat. Are the democrats perfect? of course not, far from it. but > they > are still a lot better then the republicans, generally speaking... Obama > will > be an excellent president! and it may not be politically correct to say, > but > Anna Quindlen was right when she pointed out that John Macain is too old > to be > president... Of course there are are a thousand other reasons that he > shouldn't be president, but the age question is relevant.. > > > . > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > !DSPAM:144,47cd7103324271894212401! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:15:15 -0800 (PST) From: KEVIN DOHENY Subject: joni boox excerpt "Joni had loved pop music before it had gotten so bubblegum. One of her favorite songs from high school -- indeed, for decades to come, she would call it her favorite song of all time -- was the Shirelles hit of four years before, "Will You Love Me Tomorrow." OH MY GOD!!!!! I just read this and I kind of posted the same thing earlier this week..Only makes me love Joni's performance on the song even more!!! - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:59:49 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Hillary or Barack, njc Woo-hooo-hoo-hoo! I got a ticket to tonight's primary rally with Barack and Michelle Obama. I'm hyped and happy and it feels as if I'm gonna see Joni Mitchell in concert! I saw McCain just by coincidence as I was driving my mom to work at the Market Square and he was there at the popular restaurant and panaderia, 'Mi Tierra'---yum-yum! I was like, "Mom, what's all this and all these guys with cameras?" Then I noticed some McCain signs and then I see McCain coming out. Love, Jeannie NP: Steven Stills playing and singing along with Public Enemy on 'He Got Game.' "Stop, look, what's that sound? Everybody LOOK what's going on. Everybody knows what's going down." "And, y'all, these are some serious times that we're living in. Are you ready for the real revolution which is the evolution of the mind? If you seek then you shall find that we all come from the Divine. You dig what I'm saying? Now, if you take heed to the words of wisdom that written are on the walls of life, then universally we will stand and divided we will fall cause love conquers all. This is a call for all you sleeping souls. Wake up and take control of your own cycle. And be on the look-out for the spirits tonight trying to steal away your light. Look inside yourself for peace, give thanks, live life and believe." ~~Public Enemy~~ Wake up, please, y'all, for the sake of truth and peace and shine your little lights tonight! And there goes Steven Stills again and again getting down big time with Public Enemy and Flava-Fave, too! Wooo-hooooo! Barack's my man!!! - --- gene wrote: > age, race, and gender has never defined a good or > bad leader. with that > being said, wonder who will be mc cains vice > president nominee. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anon anon" > To: "Mark Scott" ; "Randy > Remote" > ; ; > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:49 AM > Subject: RE: Hillary or Barack, njc > > > > I > > > >> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 08:57:12 -0800 > > From: mark.travis@gte.net > >> Subject: Re: Hillary or Barack, njc > >> To: guitarzan@hughes.net; joni@smoe.org > >> > >> I will vote for the Democratic nominee. But in > my heart of hearts, I > >> am doubtful that any of the candidates will > really affect real > >> 'change.' I fear that the real power brokers > have too much money, too > >> much power, too strong a grip on our political > process to make > >> effective change possible. > >> > >> Mark in Seattle > > > > > > I think the important thing is to vote for the > lesser of 2 evils, which > > is > > the democrat. Are the democrats perfect? of > course not, far from it. but > > they > > are still a lot better then the republicans, > generally speaking... Obama > > will > > be an excellent president! and it may not be > politically correct to say, > > but > > Anna Quindlen was right when she pointed out that > John Macain is too old > > to be > > president... Of course there are are a thousand > other reasons that he > > shouldn't be president, but the age question is > relevant.. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > !DSPAM:144,47cd7103324271894212401! > ~nj~ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 02:59:12 +0000 From: Michael Subject: Re:I'm going to try this one last time... Free Music!! (NJC) Owen, I'm very much enjoying listening to your work. Onward and upward may you go. Michael in Quebec Owen wrote: Okay, I tried to post about this before but it either didn't work or I didn't get the digest it appeared in! I'm a singer/songwriter, very much influenced by Joni Mitchell (hence my presence on this list), and I've just released seven of my songs completely free as an EP... I would *love* for as many people from JMDL as possible to download it, and to hear what they think. The songs are offcuts from an album (my first) which will be released this year - they were mostly recorded on piano, but I have some arrangements with violin, guitar, ukulele, and electronics. They are quiet and contemplative, made for late-night/early morning listening really. If you are at all interested please go to www.myspace.com/owenduff and click on the artwork to download the EP (you can also hear songs that were on my first EP and from the upcoming album in the myspace player). Thanks for your support! Owen http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=696 66425 _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 03:06:07 +0000 From: Michael Subject: Rock and Jazz NJC Saw this article at Salon.com, with only a passing reference to Joni and Herbie, but it's a good read for those generally interested in rock and jazz. Nice photo of Joni and Herbie, too. http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/02/19/jazz_rock/ Michael in Quebec NP: Owen Duff - Morning Finsbury Park Demo _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:29:58 -0600 From: mia _ Subject: RE: New book on Carole, Joni & Carly Wow, what a great read! Thank you for posting this. I remember hearing Joni talk about how she rescued some stained glass windows from a building in Toronto that was marked for demolition (the stained glass apparently being the inspiration for Chelsea Morning a few years later). I wonder if it was same building that she hid herself out in right before she checked into the hospital. Hmmm. Anyway, I love hearing about those early days. Imagine being pregnant, penniless, homeless, and still chasing your dreams. What a courageous woman! Mia _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 01:09:03 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: shining hissing smoking Woah Monika! u tell me "Perhaps you should take that part of your post to a general music messageboard rather than a Joni Mitchell discussion list" because i challenge the antitobacco nazis sweeping our little planet, oblivious to what clean really means??? Does anyone here even grasp the significance of Shine, from the awesome music to the brillient lyrics to the stunning voice? What AMAZES me is how EVERYONE ignores addressing the point i have been trying to make about JONI'S VOICE for 10 years now: namely that her voice doesn't sound like Help Me anymore because she is not only decades older but, most importantly, she's much more skilled as a musician & a singer. If the JMDL is a club celebrating her pre-80s virgin voice & music then i definately don't belong here. i sincerely apoligize for using terms like 'folk snobs' and 'smoke nazis' but honestly doesn't it sound like it could be a lyric from Joni's next album? O i am WAY too 'confessional' & don't quite understand why i have spent SO much time on the JMDL for 11 years now other than my exponential LOVE 4 JONI !!!!! Especially her latest works ewwt >>I think you are preaching to the choir when you ask if we can even comprehend Joni's genius or whatever. Perhaps you should take that part of your post to a general music messageboard rather than a Joni Mitchell discussion list. You know? We all came here because of Joni's music, the way it has touched us personally and individually, and to connect with others who know the feeling. You dig? As for people talking about Joni's early work, well I suppose once again perhaps the casual Joni fans (or general public) go on about Big Yellow Taxi and Blue and that's it. I think the JMDL has healthy discussions of all of Joni's work (some favoring some of her early albums, some not digging the early ones as much, some favoring the later ones, some not digging the later ones, etc etc). In fact, I believe there are a couple of people who said they DIDN'T like Joni's voice (early records) until C&S when it deepened a bit. She wasn't really just "folk" by that time. I can't recall anyone saying they don't like a particular album (later album) because of Joni's voice on the JMDL. I believe some songs hit you and some songs don't as people explain frequently on here. As for cigarettes themselves, they are by far not a pollutant to the Earth but yes, they are dangerous to you individually. Sure household cleaners are toxic as well but you're not drinking Draino or inhaling the fumes everyday as a smoker does with cigarettes. That's fine if you want to smoke though. As George Harrison said, "do what you want to do" but cigarettes are bad for your lungs and can cause cancer. That is fact man. My own uncle smoked all his life and died a couple of years ago from lung cancer. That wasn't from anything household. I'm just saying and I mean no disrespect but I won't pretend smoking doesn't cause you any harm. - -Monika << ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:01:45 -0500 From: David Eoll Subject: Re: High Flying Bird, Leiber&Stoller, and Joan Collins NJC > From: > Subject: Stills (njc) > > Thanks for all the great Stills info! I can't wait to get Just > RollTape. I've always pretty much been a liner notes nerd but had no > idea about him playing on Blond in the Bleachers (one of my fave Joni > songs on my fave Joni album)! It's funny how you mentioned that his > distinct sound always seems to bleed through. Do you have his early > album with the Au Go Go Singers? It's a piece of Stills ephemera. > Most of the album is very mid-60s folksy but Stills as we came to know > him is unmistakable on one song "High Flying Bird." Thanks for the tip. Haven't heard of the album You mention. Is it pre-Buffalo Springfield? I know the song High Flying Bird. Jefferson Airplane used to play it in their live performances, though it was never on an album. It is a bonus track on the rerelease of Takes Off, and there is a great live version in the Monterey Pop movie. > From: "Randy Remote" > Subject: Re: Kalo mina NJC > > As far as [Leiber/Stoller] writing *most* of the hits of the day-I > assume you're being a little loose with language. Yes, I was exagerating. :) But, my point I think was valid, at least w.r.t pop music and R&R. At a certain point around the mid-60s, I think, artists who wrote their own tunes went from being the exception to being the rule. And Lennon-McCartney and Jagger-Richards seem to have been at the vanguard of that trend. Interestingly, early in both bands careers they recorded plenty of Leiber-Stoller tunes. They learned from the masters. > From: Eric Taylor > Subject: shining hissing smoking > > i don't hear the other non-smoking Joans (Baez & Collins) sound NEARLY > SO good I didn't realize Joan Collins sang. :) I assume you meant Judy Collins. I have never seen her in person, and my album collection of hers runs out around the time she quit smoking, so I can't say personally whether the change has improved or degraded her singing. But, a friend of mine saw her a few years ago (she still tours every year I think) and she said Judy's still got it. And she's almost 70. Peace, David Eoll ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #595 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------