From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #541 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, January 18 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 541 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: WTRF (3GS) [Eric Taylor ] Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike [] Larry Klein [Eric Taylor ] Re: Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike [Laura Stanley ] Re: Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: New Cover [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: a-- holes at concerts, njc [Laura Stanley ] Robben Ford - Joni related [Paul Castle ] All I Want [JLoehr4988@aol.com] Dog Eat Dog [Kate Johnson ] re: The Merm [c Karma ] re: The Merm [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: The Merm [Dflahm@aol.com] re: Mojo DISLIKE [c Karma ] RE: The Merm NJC [c Karma ] Re: The Merm - NJC ["Jerry Notaro" ] RE: The Merm - NJC ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: WTRF (3GS) ["Randy Remote" ] Re: The Merm NJC [Bob Muller ] Robben Ford - Joni related [Sherelle Smith ] Re: The Merm NJC ["Randy Remote" ] Re: The Merm NJC [Victor Johnson ] Re: WTRF (3GS) [Eric Taylor ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:32:19 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: WTRF (3GS) Monika expressed my horror over the Conspiracy Of Hope fanale: >>Wait a minute, you mean to tell me somebody actually, really through a water balloon which hit Joni's electric guitar? Man oh man oh man. Not only is that EXTREMELY rude, completely not funny, immature, but it could also be dangerous if too much water hit an electrical cord and such. Oh man, and some threw pennies? Man if that was me I would have taken those pennies and chucked them right back. How very, very, very rude. No wonder Joni doesn't like touring or playing live all too much. Sure, you have your good, well behaved audiences but I'm sure some of the bad ones would stick out in your mind like no other. Well I say good for Joni for showing them through song! That's the way. - -Monika, who still can't believe there are big enough assholes who would throw water balloons up on a stage or even pennies....man....<< It's true, Monika. It was a few typical jerks two rows behind me. When they started to throw the pennies I tried to take action (to kill them) but was unable to move more than an inch for hours from the squeezing crowd so I just gave them the evil eye. When the water ballons started flying and hitting Joni the famous promoter (i forget his name) literally dove off the stage and landed directly on those total assholes beating the living shit out of them. It was like we were witnessing the song's meaning playing out right in front of our eyes broadcast to billions all over the world. But it worked in Joni's favor because it triggered an amazing delivery that I (at least) will NEVER forget. It was perhaps the most powerful moment I have experienced live. And I LOVED Bono's response when he hit the stage right after her stunning set. He emerged from the red darkness with a fire hose and blasted the front rows with thousands of gallons of water (which felt SO GOOD)! I was pushed back from the third to the tenth row by the force of the water and didn't care. I had already been totally blown away Joni's rare preformance. I'm somewhat surprised that there is so little discussion about this tramatic event in Joni's career. I swear it was the inspiration for the cover art of Turbulent Indigo..... ET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:56:09 -0800 From: Subject: Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike That's a very *sage* question, Jim. "Do you mean "Shine" style, or the BSN style? Or the bedroom-style-wrote-it-on-me-Appalachian-dulcimer style, or the LA-Express-style?" Sure, all of the above ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:37:02 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Larry Klein Reading all the passionate posts about Joni's 80s albums i just need to add my two cents (without throwing them at the stage).....;~D I have loved every album she has ever released since I was turned on to Blue by a gay friend in 1975. Joni became my favorite recording artist in 1980 when I discovered Hejira & DJRD and she has remained my favorite musician ever since. I immediately adored WTRF, DED & CMIARS from the day they were released and adore them even more to this day. In my opinion Larry Klein continues to be the greatest contributor to Joni's music and production BY FAR than anyone else! I find Larry's bass playing much more effective with her unique sound than even Jaco. And NO ONE has contributed more to Joni's lasting brillience than Larry. You can have Tom Scott's predictable pop jazz. Larry Klein deserves a-hell-of-a-lot more credit for Joni's creative longevity! Sorry i'm so bluntly opinionated. ET ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:45:26 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike Paz wrote: And wouldn't it have been interesting if Joni would have a relationship with Frank Zappa?!?!?!?!? LOLLLLL then it would have been, "Come up to my dangerous kitchen and I'll show you my best recipe." ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:52:50 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike No quest on my part - I'd love for something to show up. I'm sure that most artists don't want demos, alternate takes etc. out there but it might have been a more successful project than the Geffen Box was. Back in my trading days, I naively traded with someone who was offering "DED Demos" - turned out to be the actual album on tape - oh well, all of got duped in trades from time to time but it was surely worth it for all the riches we got in the experience. Bob NP: Better Than Ezra, "Dirty Work" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:37:58 +0000 From: Paul Castle Subject: Robben Ford - Joni related He was here in the UK just before Christmas, Kakki, at the Jazz Cafe in London. I couldn't make it. Here he is at that show playing Paul Butterfield's 'Loving Cup' (with just a hint of 'Day Tripper, I noticed) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmgVZRZWyoc very best Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:29:40 EST From: JLoehr4988@aol.com Subject: All I Want Greetings and Happy New Year....I am generally a 'lurker' but post from time to time...last time was in the 'who is coyote?' tread, anyway....just found this great, feel good cover of 'All I Want" I think you'll like it!! best regards....judy _http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wngv5_L6UKw_ (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wngv5_L6UKw) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:26:17 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Dog Eat Dog I love many songs on DED they make me sing along they move me they articulate relationships and relations that i recognize brilliant imagery 'sometimes change comes at you like a broadside accident there is chaos to the order random things you can't prevent' that's only one in only that one song i could do without the dippitydoppity percussion or whatever it is "could be trouble around the corner could be beauty down the street" "no hearts of gold no nerves of steel no blame for what we can and cannot feel" "no blame for what we can and can't control good friends you 'n me" ahh, don't get me started! there is brilliance in every song on this CD i hear brilliance if others don't and the songs, and her delivery of them, they move me they move me they move me all the way over There is not one of Joni's albums that I haven't eschewed from time to time ... well, with so many to choose from, there's one for every mood ... Fiction and The Three Great Stimulants are not melodies that I particularly like, but the lyrics are -- again, the imagery is so sharp -- still, that damn percussion everywhere does irritate still, it belongs to these songs, doesn't it? it's hard to imagine them having the same punch without it Tax Free -- wow. Love the Rod Steiger touch too. Ethiopia is heartrending, isn't it? "little gar den plan et o a sis in space" beautiful, beautiful! Impossible Dreamer, can't we all relate to feeling just like she does? And I'd say the same for Lucky Girl. Shiny Toys is my least favourite on this CD but even *it* is brilliant. - -Kate http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:26:30 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: The Merm "Hey Smurph. Raise a glass for the fabulous Ethel Merman, born 100 years ago today. Jerry" I know I'm pulling out my Ethel Merman Disco Album to celebrate! She could sing anything. Go ahead, sing anything a la Merm. It all works. I really wish she'd covered "The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys." CC _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:43:16 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: re: The Merm That sounds like a familiar exercise to those of us who attend Jonifests - we did LOTS of Joni songs and others a la Merm. I saw her onstage in Detroit in "Annie Get Your Gun". Unforgettable. Bob NP: The Wood Brothers, "Angel Band" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:10:35 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Mojo DISLIKE This reader did NOT purchase Mojo because he has decided to enact a moratorium on any Joni interview wherein she seems to express paranoid neediness. She has to start avoiding giving interviewers fodder like intimating that Joan Baez would have pulled a Tonya Harding on her, given the chance. I hope she's not comfortable with this type of reporting, it doesn't suit her. BTW, didn't the photographs seem a few years dated? CC _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:12:01 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: The Merm NJC Ah, but has anyone done "Low Spark...?" ________________________________ > To: ckarma@hotmail.com > CC: joni@smoe.org > Subject: re: The Merm > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:43:16 -0500 > > > _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:18:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: The Merm - NJC And I saw that tour in Toronto, at the O'Keefe Center. She would have been 59 at the time, way too old to play Annie Oakley (Harve Presnell played opposite, at least 25 years younger at the time.) But it was one of the most exciting live stage performances of my lifetime of theater going. I do a mean Merm imitation and used to do a Ghost of Ethel Merman incoming phone message for friends. Word got out and strangers would call just to hear the message. Anyone remember the hysterical Ethel Merman imitation routine on SNL? A classic! Jerry Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > You saw Ethel Merman in ANNIE... in Detroit? That would have been the > Lincoln Center revival of 1966/7. Irving Berlin wrote her a new song, "Old > Fashioned Wedding," for that production. > > be well DAVID LAHM > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:19:43 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: The Merm - NJC Bob Murphy does a wicked Ethel. The first time we went out to dinner during the summer I lived in Boston, he did "The last Time I Saw Richard" a la Ethel. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Notaro Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:18 PM To: Dflahm@aol.com Cc: bob.muller@fluor.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: The Merm - NJC And I saw that tour in Toronto, at the O'Keefe Center. She would have been 59 at the time, way too old to play Annie Oakley (Harve Presnell played opposite, at least 25 years younger at the time.) But it was one of the most exciting live stage performances of my lifetime of theater going. I do a mean Merm imitation and used to do a Ghost of Ethel Merman incoming phone message for friends. Word got out and strangers would call just to hear the message. Anyone remember the hysterical Ethel Merman imitation routine on SNL? A classic! Jerry Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > You saw Ethel Merman in ANNIE... in Detroit? That would have been the > Lincoln Center revival of 1966/7. Irving Berlin wrote her a new song, "Old > Fashioned Wedding," for that production. > > be well DAVID LAHM > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:30:16 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: WTRF (3GS) From: "Eric Taylor" . When the water ballons started flying and hitting Joni the famous promoter (i forget his name) literally dove off the stage and landed directly on those total assholes beating the living shit out of them. Sounds like Bill Graham (?) RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:36:30 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: The Merm NJC That's exactly right, David. I lived in the Detroit area from 1965-67. I was a kid but knew at the time that I was watching something special. Bob NP: Iris Koch, "All I Want" - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:07:36 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: Robben Ford - Joni related Kakki, How wonderful to find this after being away from the JMDL for quite a few digests!! I didn't realize that Robben Ford played for Joni!!! Didn't know Larry Carlton played for her either! Wow!!! Kakki, you don't know how tempted I am to try to make it there! I'll talk to you offline about it. Good gracious! I don't see him coming to my area on this tour so I'm so tempted to come to yours! What a small world this Robben Ford/Michael McDonald/Larry Carlton one is! Michael and Larry are still very good friends along with Robben. I chat every now and then with Bernie Chiaravalle who is Michael's current guitarist. Bernie built and maintains Robben's website that you listed. Let us not forget Amy Holland McDonald who did backup vocals for Joni (I think the CD was Wild Things Run Fast-correct if wrong). Joni is listed by Amy on her My Space site as one of her favorite artists. Bernie is producing Amy's new CD which will be released in the spring (and I love it!) Take a listen to a few sound clips if you want: www.myspace.com/amyhollandmcdonald I've always wanted to see both Robben and Larry play live...too much for me!!! I'll have to go ponder this one!!! Sherelle From: Subject: Robben Ford - Joni related Oooo, oooo! Joni band member Robben Ford (Hissing and Miles of Aisles) is ontour coming to a town near you! And he is playing a 2 week stretch withfellow Joni band alum Larry Carlton at the end of February, beginning ofMarch. Link below to the tour dates. He is also playing here in L.A. atCatalina Jazz Club March 14 - 16 and Soho in Santa Barbara for Kate on January30th. (Sherelle, he is also a Michael McDonald alum so I hope you can catchhim!). I love reading his bio - influenced by the Paul Butterfield BluesBand, Clapton, Led Zep and Jimi back in the day and went on to play in MilesDavis' band. I have tried to see him for years - it is rare when he tours -so check him out! http://www.robbenford.com/RobbenFordMain.html Kakki _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:25:12 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: The Merm NJC From: "c Karma" > Ah, but has anyone done "Low Spark...?" Rickie Lee Jones! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:24:20 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: The Merm NJC On Jan 17, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Randy Remote wrote: > From: "c Karma" >> Ah, but has anyone done "Low Spark...?" > > Rickie Lee Jones! and Phil Lesh and Friends Victor NP: Phil and Friends "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys" June 3, 2007 Hunter Ski Arena, Hunter, NY ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:31:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: WTRF (3GS) i slightly exaggerated >>When the water ballons started flying and hitting Joni the famous promoter (i forget his name) literally dove off the stage and landed directly on those total assholes beating the living shit out of them.<< RR is correct >>Sounds like Bill Graham (?)<< Okay, Bill did not literally beat the crap out of those jerks but I'm sure it hurt when his bigness landed directly upon them! It was quite a scary sight because he dove right over my head..... 20 years later it remains my most vivid concert experience, even more than Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon tour. Still shining ET ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #541 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------