From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #538 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, January 16 2008 Volume 2007 : Number 538 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE : Re: Patty Griffin, Emmylou, Shawn Colvin and Buddy Miller in conc ert - SJC [Joseph Palis ] Mojo [KEVIN DOHENY ] Re: WTRF (3GS) [Eric Taylor ] Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:46:07 +0100 (CET) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : Re: Patty Griffin, Emmylou, Shawn Colvin and Buddy Miller in conc ert - SJC Thanks everyone for the nice words. At this moment Phyliss must probably have seen the "Three Girls and their Buddy" concert in Asheville, so maybe we may have a report on that leg of the concert -- especially on a Joni cover that one of them may do. Maybe Shawn should sing "Blue Motel Room" as I think it suits her voice. Or her voice seems to suit the technical demands of that lovely song. Now, about Patty Griffin. I heard of her about two years ago, strangely enough in a Q&A with a North Carolina filmmaker Tim Kirkman who directed "Loggerheads". Kirkman said that he loved Patty that he made it a point to include her songs in the film. Something about the way Kirkman described Patty Griffin that caught my attention. So I got me the film's soundtrack and I liked the two PG songs there: "Cold as it gets" and "The Rowing Song" -- the latter was used very memorably in one of the film's dramatic scenes. So I got PG's first album "Living with Ghosts" and loved the spare guitar-and-voice arrangement. I have not picked another album since that but after the concert last night, I am inclined to get her albums one by one. Saw a friend today and when we realized we both attended the same concert last night, she said "Wasn't Patty Griffin amazing?!" confirming what I also thought that Patty's solos were last night's highlights. And oh she did "Mary" too. And Paz, you'll like this, Patty also sang "Nobody's Crying" so affectingly but because all her solos were uniformly memorable (oxymoron?), it was hard to pinpoint the sublimest from the sublime. Last few things about Buddy Miller. I listened to his albums in the radio station today and I like what I heard. For some reason, the live sets are more exciting than those recorded in the studio but I am now a fan so I will most likely acquire his albums one by one, and if I feel a bit eccentric, maybe in chronological order too. I played all four singers during my radio show this afternoon. Shawn's "These Four Walls" (so achingly beautiful), Emmylou's "Bang the Drum Slowly" (nice voice but a bit overproduced -- not her fault obviously), Patty Griffin's "Cold as it gets" (nice nice nice) and Buddy Miller's "That's How I Got To Memphis (tapping the more soulful Jim Lauderdale in him). If you do get a chance to see the tour of this four, and if you have a little disposable cash, buy their poster which has a very cool and tasteful design (plus all their autographs). Joseph np: Fine Young Cannibals - Good Thing - --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:58:37 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: RE : re: desert island discs (BSN) Jerry wrote: >>I love Joni, but to compare her BSN to Lady In Satin is too much. Yes they both have a lady singer and an orchestra singing the American Songbook, but the comparison stops there. Joni has always sung her songs because she wrote them, and other songs well early in her career, but never to the level of Billie singing the songs in a milieu that she virtually created. With BSN, Joni took a stab at a bunch of songs that she admired as a youth and did pretty well. Billie's Lady In Satin is the end of an era and career that changed music.<< I must share the reaction of my 80 year old friend Dave, who adores Billie, when I first played him BSN back in 2000. When I returned to his room as the last song ended he had tears running down his face and told me "I MUST have this record!" He said that he hadn't heard anyone sing like that since he was a kid. BSN was the first Joni album that several of my older friends finally appreciated. But not all old farts feel that way about her music. I remember getting a big kick out of "Mr Television" Milton Bearl inviting Joni to play at his 80th? birthday party, extolling his love for NRH as well as all of her work. While BSN remains at the bottom of my favorite Joni album list I nonetheless LOVE IT, especially A Case Of You. I can't think of an artist more uniquely diverse in history! Can you??? ET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:00:06 -0800 (PST) From: KEVIN DOHENY Subject: Mojo I haven't read it yet either..Mostly since I am cheap and just wait for them to eventually show up on jm.com and thru donation it's like sort of buying the magazine?? umm yeah.. (Thank you oh thank you) As far as Janis hating Joni ..Janis was probably drunk lol..As far as Baez goes..It couldn't have been that deep a riff since Joni did participate in the Bred and Roses festival and wasn't that founded by Mimi Farina(joan's sister) - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:49:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: WTRF (3GS) Michael Paz added: >>I thought the Amensty show stress from the crowd added to the effectiveness of 3 Great Stimulants.<< O HOW TRUE!!! I was in the third row center of that concert when Joni was introduced as the surprise guest. I was there to see U2 and couldn't believe my luck to witnesses my two favorites back to back! As Joni & Larry began playing 3GS a few A-holes directly behind me began throwing pennies at them. Then they hurled water balloons which hit Joni's electric guitar! I was about to murder those stupid F's when security dove on them. Temporarily distracted by the commotion I began to notice the amazing intensity which radiated from Joni and it suddenly became the best song of the 12 hour concert!!! 3GS is likewise stunning in the F&D ballet which I watched again tonight. Have we forgotten that this mindblowing ballet will be preforming this summer? I will definately be there! ET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:03:25 -0800 From: Subject: Dog Eat Dog Like and Dislike I think the problem some have with DED is it doesn't sound like the Joni we knew and loved. It's weird, but I think the album technically is very well done and the lyrics alone are some of her absolute best. (I converted a friend to Joni just by having him read the lyrics). To some there is just way too much of Klein and others' influence diluting the pure Joni here. I have heard and maybe Joni has also said somewhere that Klein wanted her to sound more 80s to be more saleable and popular. Bad move for the Joni purists. I think Klein's production work with several other artist, such as Shawn and Julia Fordham, is just wonderful. But I don't think Joni's music can be collaborated - it ends up being compromised and watered down. It's like if you really love a prime cut of steak, medium rare, perfectly cooked and then someone trying to be innovative serves you that same prime cut smothered in some kind of weird rosemary and fennel sauce. Ruined ;-) Can you imagine DED done completely Joni style? It would have been a totally different work. I did not like the Klein production values and influence on her albums. That is why when I first heard the song Night Ride Home one evening on a crowded freeway, I immediately spun off at the next exit to get to a music store to pick it up. I was finally hearing Joni's "voice" again like I had remembered it. So, bottom line, it is a very good album, but it is not all our Joni and that is why some have a slight aversion to it. 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