From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #512 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, December 26 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 512 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Oscar Peterson, 82 (RIP) - NJC and frank morgan too. ["WATTS, LESLI" ] Eat Dog. NJC [Rian Afriadi ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405 [Eric Taylor ] Re: Eat Dog. NJC [FMYFL@aol.com] two Joni questions from a longtime list lurker [Darice ] RE: two Joni questions from a longtime list lurker ["WATTS, LESLI" ] Joni DVD's [Laura Stanley ] Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC [Catherine McKay ] Re:The Wizard of Is and Suzanne [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Re: Joni essentials [Bobsart48@aol.com] Re: Merry, Merry Christmas To All [Peep Richman ] Re: two Joni questions from a longtime list lurker [Bob Muller ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405 [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni DVD's, NJC [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Joni DVD's, NJC [Rian Afriadi ] 26.12.2004 njc [Rian Afriadi ] 26.12.2004 njc [Rian Afriadi ] 26.12.2004 njc [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Customer Quotes of the Year 2007 (NJC, but a Jaco mention) ["Lori Fye" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:59:06 -0800 From: "WATTS, LESLI" Subject: RE: Oscar Peterson, 82 (RIP) - NJC and frank morgan too. and another of the tribe gone...frank morgan a masterful alto player and a good guy. they will be missed. speaking of which...i hold the lovely smart funny people of this list list very close on this day of gatherings. helping me see just a little more of the human story. i know we'll all be raising the bar in 2008. i sure as hell want to, so i raise my glass to you listas! a good tight hug and warmest thoughts i can conjure up to you all lesli in topanga ________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org on behalf of Joseph Palis Sent: Mon 12/24/2007 8:33 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Oscar Peterson, 82 (RIP) - NJC Legendary jazz pianist Oscar Peterson passed away last Sunday, 12/23. He was 82. The "Maharajah of the Keyboards" had played with jazz royalties who themselves have very royal appellations: Duke Ellington, Count Basie, The First Lady of Song, Lady Day, etc. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7159591.stm - --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:06:19 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Eat Dog. NJC Well, all I know is that Jeannie will scream if she read this. I listen to DED these days, and then i just remembered about one of the tribes in Indonesia that loves to eat dog. Actually, there are more than 1 tribe that love to eat dog, but ibm just telling you one of them : The Batak tribe of North Sumatra. (The other famous dog-eater tribe is The Manado of North Celebes) Bataks mostly live in North Sumatra (see the map, find a city called Medan), but they also live in Jakarta, and any other provinces. Bataks are adventurous, so, basically, you can find them almost everywhere in Indonesia. Anyway, my boss is Batak. Three or four percent of Indonesians are Bataks. 3% x 250,000,000 = 7,500,000 people. So, there are 7.5 to 10 million dog-eaters in INA. That is 1 million more than citizens of Sweden. Add the Manados and the Indonesian-Chinese, then the number will rise significantly. I have lots of Batak good friends. This is what they told me about dog: bDog is delicious. Just like mutton.b bIbd prefer dog to pork.b bItbs a delicacy, you canbt get it everyday. So, dog is so special.b bYou have to cook it right, otherwise, the meat will stink.b bUnlike cow or sheep or pig, you donbt kill dog through cutting its throat. Dog will taste better if you let the blood stay in its body.b Ummm, i spent my last 4 years in Jakarta. I had a Batak neighbor. He was a preacher or something like that in the church. Our house is very near. My room is only 3 meters away from his backyard. One day, it was Christmas time, i heard a howling/crying/screaming dog. Then i heard a few bam-bam-bams. Well, the dog was being hit with something. Yes, to kill it, they donbt cut it. But hit it. I mean, you put the dog inside a huge cheap but strong textile (just like what would a kidnapper do), then beat the dog to death. The blood will stay inside the body. The sound of the crying dog is so.... It took a few minutes, perhaps 10, to finally made the dog stop screaming. After that, I smelled somethingbs burning and i saw a black smoke with lots of hair flying. Well, that was the neighbor burning the dog to de-hair it. After that, cooking time began. All i know, they cook it with lots of herbs, spices, and chilies. Isnbt that scary? Rian NP. Shadows and Light PS : Bon Apetit. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 04:56:20 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405 Bob rightly asked~ >>Tell you what...you tell me why people send WHOLE DIGESTS back to the list, and I'll tell you why I think Dancing Clown sucks.<< But Bob you forgot to include NJC in the subject line! ;~o Okay I'll grant you that Dancing Clown sucks up to the big pop stars dominating our sick age yet it is nonetheless far superior to the total CRAP in the top 1000 for way too long now! What really shocks me is that Joni has not produced a top ten hit since Help Me. THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO PEOPLE!!! I haven't been able to listen to anything but public radio for many years now completely sick of the reguigitated golden oldies puked by mainstream stations. Big Yellow Taxi 2007 deserves FAR more airplay nowadays. So does Night Of The Iguana which I swear is Joni's greatest work since Slouching Toward Bethlehem. Perhaps 100 years from now our Joan's sheer genius will be fully appreciated by the few survivors of this massive mess we're in. Our woman of heart & mind can do no wrong in my book & everything she has ever done outshines artists going back many centuries. Sorry for being such an absolute Joniphile but how can I stop??? BTW I cringe at the thought of a Pope Joni! Yuck!!! I see her more like a Joni the Baptist, pushing our heads deep into the waters of newness. Okay it is Christmas day according to the Catholics and Protestants. So I must sincerely wish all life on Earth PEACE. & thank everyone for everything! 2 a better 2008!!! ET ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 08:56:38 EST From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Eat Dog. NJC In a message dated 12/25/2007 3:08:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, do9eatdo9@yahoo.com writes: > PS : Bon Apetit. > The #1 most disgusting post of 2007!!!!!!!!!!!! Jimmy ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 06:57:13 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Darice Subject: two Joni questions from a longtime list lurker Does anyone have any info on a tv appearance of Joni and Dino Valenti singing together? Any help with show, date, video, etc would be vastly appreciated..... Also, can you point me to Joni's quote describing herself as a "serial monogamist"? Thanks and happy holidays, Darice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 07:05:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC Jimmy wrote: The #1 most disgusting post of 2007!!!!. +++ Yes it was! I do agree even though i am the writer of that post. Before i wrote that post, i had a chat with my close friend. He's from batak tribe. And today, he and his family celebrate christmas. Most bataks are christians. He told me about this and that. In the end of conversation <it was a telephone conversation> he told me that his mother made a very delicious Saksang. Well, saksang is the name of the dish. He offered me to taste it. Of course i rejected it! The dish disgusts me. Specially after knowing how to cook it. I do not and will never eat dog! God! What would Brigitte Bardot say about this? OK. I agree it was disgusting. And i'm soooo sorry if that disgusted you. But after all, it's a matter of culture. You may find it disgusting, but 10millions of people from one of the most exotic place in this world may find it delicious. Cheers for the differences in our culture. Rian. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 08:26:01 -0800 From: "WATTS, LESLI" Subject: RE: two Joni questions from a longtime list lurker i think i can help with the serial monogamist. i liked the sound of that, and then i bet she laughed. pretty sure it was in a rolling stone interview with morrissey, maybe at (kudos to kakki) the bel air hotel. the jmdl library will find it for you. ________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org on behalf of Darice Sent: Tue 12/25/2007 6:57 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: two Joni questions from a longtime list lurker Does anyone have any info on a tv appearance of Joni and Dino Valenti singing together? Any help with show, date, video, etc would be vastly appreciated..... Also, can you point me to Joni's quote describing herself as a "serial monogamist"? Thanks and happy holidays, Darice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 08:36:37 -0800 From: "WATTS, LESLI" Subject: RE: dancing clown ________________________________ From: WATTS, LESLI Sent: Tue 12/25/2007 8:31 AM To: Eric Taylor Subject: RE: dancing clown Bob rightly asked~ >>Tell you what...you tell me why people send WHOLE DIGESTS back to the list, and I'll tell you why I think Dancing Clown sucks.<< ________________________________ but bob- that's the song where she dances around her kitchen, kitty in arms.....that was a fun moment! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Joni DVD's JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J O N I JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI JONI J JONI JONI O JONI JONI N JONI JONI I JONI ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 09:57:55 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC As a dog and cat lover, I agree that the post was both disturbing and disgusting. But it was also informative. As Rian points out, it is a cultural difference and there are many of those. Some we find acceptable or at least tolerable to our own sensibilities. Others we do not. That doesn't change the fact that these differences exist. You know life is for learning. Thank you, Rian, for continuing to educate us about your part of the world. Mark in Seattle. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rian Afriadi" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:05 AM Subject: Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC > Jimmy wrote: > The #1 most disgusting post of 2007!!!!. > > OK. I agree it was disgusting. And i'm soooo sorry if that > disgusted you. But after all, it's a matter of culture. You may > find it disgusting, but 10millions of people from one of the most > exotic place in this world may find it delicious. > > Cheers for the differences in our culture. > > Rian. > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:17:12 -0500 (EST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC - --- Mark Scott wrote: > As a dog and cat lover, I agree that the post was > both disturbing and > disgusting. > > But it was also informative. As Rian points out, it > is a cultural > difference and there are many of those. Some we > find acceptable or at > least tolerable to our own sensibilities. Others we > do not. That > doesn't change the fact that these differences > exist. > > You know life is for learning. > > Thank you, Rian, for continuing to educate us about > your part of the > world. > I agree. It grossed me out. I guess I prefer that other people kill animals for me to eat and make them look not like animals. Does a bit of steak have any resemblance to the animal it came from? No, it doesn't. It is definitely a cultural thing, but certainly enough to make me consider becoming a vegetarian, although who knows what the vegetables would have to say about that? There are meats we consider OK to eat, and I get grossed out when I see rabbit for sale at the grocery store across the street, but chicken is OK. It's all kind of hypocritical really. I do wish I liked vegetables more. I could probably live off breads and pasta, but then I'd be even fatter than I am, I suppose. Oh, and happy Christmas whether you celebrate it or not - for most, it means a day off work, but there are a few places open in downtown Toronto today. I hope the workers are getting paid at least double time. Catherine ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account. http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 13:34:38 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re:The Wizard of Is and Suzanne Gordon posted a month ago: (Merry Christmas, folks it's been 4 weeks since my last confession that I can't keep up these days :-)) "Probably talked about here before but interested in the discussion if anyone can direct me...1967. Joni Mitchell, Canadian, poetic singer/ songwriter sings 'The Wizard of Is'. !967 Leonard Cohen ,Canadian, poetic singer /songwriter cuts his first album with a song called 'Suzanne'. These songs are so remarkably alike in structure. In parts it sounded like the same song with different lyrics. What say you clever people?" I posted this (unmistakable, to me) same observation a few years ago. I think I looked up the dates, and Suzanne seems to have come first clearly, as I recall. I think I recall speculating that may be why Joni decided not to record it, but who knows. If so, good decision by her. Bobsart **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:11:36 EST From: Bobsart48@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Joni essentials I did not weigh in on this, but I can't avoid it. Hey - I'm invoking the one month rule ! Essentials: (pick 3) - I have to agree with Bob Muller on these 1. Hejira 2. Blue 3. Court & Spark Recommended: (pick 3) - Are you kidding ? Only three ? OK, I'll agree with Muller again. 1. For The Roses 2. The Hissing of Summer Lawns 3. Turbulent Indigo Be Careful: (pick 3) - I consider this an extension of the "recommended" group, with attitude 1. Travelogue (a masterful collection of great songs in an orchestral setting) 2. Don Juan's Reckless Daughter (into orbit - hold on to your hat) 3. Mingus (if you think Joni's a folk singer...........) Go ahead and skip: (pick 3) 1. Dog Eat Dog 2. Taming the Tiger 3. Chalk Mark In A Rainstorm Live: (pick 1) - Only one ? 1. Shadows and Light (what a band - get the DVD, too). To start with: (pick 1, some compilation) 1. Miles of Aisles (Ha! - I snuck it in) Bobsart PS - The original studio recordings that did not make the above list at all include STAS, Clouds, LOTC, WTRF, NRH and Shine. I would recommend them all. That brings the recommended (but not 'essential') list up to 12, which is more like it to me ;-) Of her compilations, I love Songs of a Prairie Girl, and Hits is a good second choice for "To Start With". **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:26:58 -0800 (PST) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: Merry, Merry Christmas To All Hello to all the very special Joni People!!! And MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!! I hope that all of you are enjoying this day and this holiday season....that's a huge wish, huh?...what with all the problems that we share on the Digest. Yet, it's still my hope that each person is enjoying something special today...and ALL DAYS!!!! My grandmother died one year ago today. Of course, I miss her very much but I cherish all my memories. One of the last things she said to me was "I always loved you, I love you now, I'll love you always"...such precious words and a magnificent feeling that I have inside. I'm thinking of Joni right this second...actually a lot today, and I'm so full of wonder about what she could be doing...who is with her....I want to tell Joni I thank her for yet another year, marked so very special with the gift of "SHINE"!!!!! I'm thinking about so many people in our Digest family....certainly wishing that all is going well this Christmas Day. We are a very unique and a wonderfully feeling group of international friends. I never go one day without giving thanks for discovering the Digest and making so many dear friends. Be SAFE, and know happiness, contentment; hold close to your heart precious memories; I pledge to give in so many ways and am comforted knowing that I have so few needs. Be happy and stay far from dark ladders.....be healthy and yearn for the wisdom to help you through the tough times...yearn for the wisdom to help you appreciate every small gift life brings to us...I know we all yearn for world peace. You are all in my thoughts and I love you dearly, Bo - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:54:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: two Joni questions from a longtime list lurker Hi Darice - good to hear from you again... Here's one interview where she says it: http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1058 There are probably others too - as we know, Joni has a cache of catch-phrases that she pulls out to answer the homogeneous questions asked of her. "I'm a painter first", etc. Bob NP: Schmaltzy Christmas Music at my Mother-in-Law's house - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 14:57:43 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: dancing clown That's true - the video is so cute and Joni's joy is so real and the whole thing is so unpretentious that you almost can forget that the song is a total stinker, utterly lacking in memorable melody or a meaningful lyric. It is SO below what we all know she is capable of. Most of CMIARS falls into that category, actually. Bob NP: Marshall Tucker Band, "Take The Highway" - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 15:10:31 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405 Well, I think that Joni's genius *is* fully appreciated - depends on what criteria you choose, but she's been awarded practically every honor that a musician/composer can be given, more tributes than you can think of, critical and financial success, and the list goes on. I think that whether you're talking about film, art, music, painting, food, whatever - there's typically a big chasm between what is POPULAR and what is EXCELLENT. It doesn't bother me a bit that Joni doesn't appeal to the masses like High School Musical, Josh Groban, McDonalds, or whatever watered-down generic product is peddled to the lowest common denominator. Further to that, it makes US a special group in that we have the ability to recognize those traits in her and her work. Bob NP: Marshall Tucker Band, "24 Hours At A Time" - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 17:02:14 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Joni DVD's, NJC Congratulations, Laura. Your matrix-esque post has been awarded 2007's weirdest post! Hehe... Rian Still feeling regret writing Bon Apetit on my last post. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:02:11 +0200 (EET) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Joni DVD's, NJC Congratulations, Laura. Your matrix-esque post has been awarded 2007's weirdest post! Hehe... Rian Still feeling regret writing Bon Apetit on my last post. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:24:32 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: 26.12.2004 njc It's almost 10 AM in indonesia/thailand and 9AM in india now. Three years ago, a great tsunami devastated the nations and the whole world. Now, things are going better in Aceh. Bad dreams are really good in the great plan. After the tsunami, with your help, Aceh is reinventing itself again. After the tsunami, peace does exist in Aceh <Aceh used to be a conflict region, torn by an underground separatist movement>. After the tsunami, the separatist and Jakarta hand to hand rebuild Aceh. No more separatism. I saw by myself how personal/governmental aids/donations came from all around the globe. Maybe you didn't help personally. But the work had been done by your government. The government of course got the fund from taxes paid by you. So, on behalf of 2004's tsunami victim countries, i'd like to express how thankful we are receiving huge helps from all around the globe, from you. Rian in office. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:23:29 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: 26.12.2004 njc It's almost 10 AM in indonesia/thailand and 9AM in india now. Three years ago, a great tsunami devastated the nations and the whole world. Now, things are going better in Aceh. Bad dreams are really good in the great plan. After the tsunami, with your help, Aceh is reinventing itself again. After the tsunami, peace does exist in Aceh <Aceh used to be a conflict region, torn by an underground separatist movement>. After the tsunami, the separatist and Jakarta hand to hand rebuild Aceh. No more separatism. I saw by myself how personal/governmental aids/donations came from all around the globe. Maybe you didn't help personally. But the work had been done by your government. The government of course got the fund from taxes paid by you. So, on behalf of 2004's tsunami victim countries, i'd like to express how thankful we are receiving huge helps from all around the globe, from you. Rian in office. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:23:28 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: 26.12.2004 njc It's almost 10 AM in indonesia/thailand and 9AM in india now. Three years ago, a great tsunami devastated the nations and the whole world. Now, things are going better in Aceh. Bad dreams are really good in the great plan. After the tsunami, with your help, Aceh is reinventing itself again. After the tsunami, peace does exist in Aceh <Aceh used to be a conflict region, torn by an underground separatist movement>. After the tsunami, the separatist and Jakarta hand to hand rebuild Aceh. No more separatism. I saw by myself how personal/governmental aids/donations came from all around the globe. Maybe you didn't help personally. But the work had been done by your government. The government of course got the fund from taxes paid by you. So, on behalf of 2004's tsunami victim countries, i'd like to express how thankful we are receiving huge helps from all around the globe, from you. Rian in office. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:17:45 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Re: Eat Dog. NJC It's actually a lot easier than people think to be a vegetarian in terms of finding good, tasty food to eat. Most say the actual giving up of meat is the most difficult part but for me (yes I am a vegetarian) it wasn't at all. The only meat I ever really ate was turkey and chicken (until I had chickens for pets--I gave up chicken when I had them....you can't eat your own pets! And I only ate turkey every now and again and never craved it after I gave it up...besides that....I have always found meat to be gross). Let me get back to my point here....people always ask me, startled, what I eat when they find out I don't eat meat. All I say to them, and to you, is to look at your plate when you eat a meal. Instead of the hunk of meat, you take the two sides that go with it and spread it so it fits your entire plate! That's what I tell people. As for the dog, it's just very interesting how different cultures find different things acceptable. As for the dog meat itself, I'd pass! -Monika Catherine McKay wrote: It is definitely a cultural thing, but certainly enough to make me consider becoming a vegetarian, although who knows what the vegetables would have to say about that? There are meats we consider OK to eat, and I get grossed out when I see rabbit for sale at the grocery store across the street, but chicken is OK. It's all kind of hypocritical really. I do wish I liked vegetables more. I could probably live off breads and pasta, but then I'd be even fatter than I am, I suppose. Oh, and happy Christmas whether you celebrate it or not - for most, it means a day off work, but there are a few places open in downtown Toronto today. I hope the workers are getting paid at least double time. Catherine - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account. http://www.flickr.com/gift/ - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:49:14 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Customer Quotes of the Year 2007 (NJC, but a Jaco mention) This came to me today from my local used/new record store. It's just too good not to share (and it even mentions my last name, too, LOL). - Lori ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE LAST RECORD STORE NEWSLETTER "Merry Christmas, You Wonderful Old Building And Loan!" CUSTOMER QUOTES OF THE YEAR: 2007 One of the Last Record Store Newsletter's most talked-about features is the Customer Quote Of The Week, a forum for the verbal talents of the outspoken, outrageous, and just plain out-there customers who wander through our front doors. Lots of people ask how we gather the quotes, and the answer is simple: since we're old-fashioned, we write down everything we sell in a notebook at the front counter, and if a nearby customer says something out of the ordinary, we'll write that down, too. I'm not sure why we started doing it, but I have to say, I'm glad we did. It's amazing what people will tell you when you work retail, and it has become an annual tradition to compile these quotes and send them to you, our well-adjusted and sane customers, on Christmas Day. These quotes are all real - just things that people thought we might like to know. Some are funny, some are sad, and some just plain don't make sense at all. Just like life, I suppose. Here's what customers of the Last Record Store were talking about in 2007: "I could be wrong, but I think, statistically, more people rob a bank wearing a Richard Nixon mask than any other mask." "Are you a musician? Do you know if there's a way to take jazz songs or rock songs and change the rhythm? I need to eliminate that vibration, that 'wha-wha-wha-wha' that's attacking my central nervous system, but I still want to hear the songs. Do you know a band that I could talk to about changing the rhythm to get rid of the vibrations?" "I love eating Turkish food, but I told the guy I can't eat lamb. I won't eat any animal I've slept with." "Brendan Fraser is the bomb! Do you guys like him? When George of the Jungle came out, my kids were like, 'Mommy's got a crush on George!' 'cause he had the sexiest chest! But the The Mummy came out and I was all, 'woodley-woodley-woo!' It's waaaay beyond a crush now." "I was married to my ex-wife for 20 years and I only took her out to dinner twice. No wonder she never wanted to kiss me." "I don't know HOW you can work with this music on... I will tell you this: I would never stay in here unless I needed to buy these tickets. I don't care what other people likeI'm a DEADHEAD and I know GOOD MUSIC and this is TERRIBLE." "I'm so stupid, I have a computer but I don't know how to use it. I know how to look up porn, and I know how to burn DVDs." "Mom, I want to throw rocks at the mall." "I can't take care of your cats! I'll be so tense that I'll have a gastral reflex and throw up all over them!" "Don't drink too much during your shift at work today." "I was born on the numerology day of Jimi Hendrix, you know, Adolf Hitler and Marilyn Monroe? So it makes me just wanna live what he's talking about, know what I mean?" "I'm gonna buy me some fusion! I bet this song 'Floppy Hat' is killer!" "Then there's bands like the Police, who reissue every recording they've ever done. Who cares about that crap? I mean, except for their moms?" "I was here a long time ago, and you had curry powder. Do you still sell curry powder?" "Christmas stinks! It's a lie! Jesus wasn't even born in December!" "I gotta find out how to upload a video to my MySpace! I'm gonna post the story of my life, it's a ghetto reality series." "That Dolly Parton, she sure was good with Porter Wagoner. But then she got away and started dressing like a clown and it all went to hell." "I got a teenage son who picked five out of six on the horses last year and won $10,000, that little stinker! Nothin' like that ever happens to me." "Do you have a map of the Mystic Theater? I need to find the bar." "Christmas is when people who never see each other send cards saying how much they wish they could." "The only band I've seen in the last 11 years is The Cult. They're the only band you ever need to see!" "Where would I find something... metaphysical?" "My right hand doesn't know what my left hand is doing, and neither hand knows what my mouth is doing!" "I used to think it was all about Tom Petty, man, but ever since I discovered Everlast's solo stuff after House Of Pain - shit, man, take a step back and get in the back seat! Tom Petty's old!" "That guy over there used to be my babysitter when I was a kid. He made me eat a hamburger once and I totally threw up. Totally." "How can you not love a French dwarf?!" "Amy Winehouse, swing my way, girl. I'm a free man." "I ain't with Jesus, and I tried that Buddha shit. I did the chanting and all that, but I realized they just want you to join their team and go to meetings. No way." "They should bring good light shows back. I'd start trippin' again if they had good light shows." "Thanks for wrapping the CD. Saves me time, more time to spend with my dog!" "I was drivin' on College and Mendocino the other day and I looked over. And it was Orlando Cepeda! He was speeding!" "Is that Peter Gabriel? I used to wear a Peter Gabriel t-shirt all the time, because it looked cool, but I had to stop wearing it 'cause I don't know who he is. He did 'Sledgehammer'??? '80s, right???" "Oh no, I hate banjo! I have a genetic aversion to the banjo." "Thanks for helping me carry these records! I threw my back out yesterday shaving my legs, so it's a big help." "This is my entertainment budget right here - to hell with the fair. I always lose my money there, give it away to the ponies. They can buy their own oats this year." "If all music sounded the way I want it to, then you'd be listening to a lot of crappy music. I mean, I like what I like, but I'm not gonna say it's good." "I think I may have recorded the very first record of 2007. We started right when the clock struck midnight." "I've been trying to get my son into this old music, but he just thinks 'Dad's fucked up.' That's cool, though, 'cause I am." "Neil Young is like Ross Perot: you never know where he's gonna come from." "Garth Brooks, what a great country singer. In Central Park, he said that anyone who is wanted by the police should leave now, which, you know, I think that saved my life, because I'm on the assassination list, I get assassinated every day. But thank you Garth Brooks for teaching me about the business." "Yes, you have ticket for Foam Party. What is Foam Party? I see girls in bikinis. There will be girls in bikinis at Foam Party, yes?" "What was it about the '70s? That must have been right when the holes started in the ozone layer - all the vibes started pouring in." *"I left L.A. at 1:00, pulled into Petaluma at 10:00 on my Harley, and I'm still a little rattledI can't believe I had to come all the way to Santa Rosa to find Jaco Pastorious!"* "This place sucks! You guys got way too much good shit!" "I got two weaknesses - music and fishing. And I usually spend about 50 bucks on both!" "It's good to have someone mess with your mind and undermine your assumptions... only in the crossword puzzle, though!" "For the life of me, I'm never gonna understand Animal Collective. I could see liking it if it didn't give me a headache. I've tried listening to it sober, I've tried listening to it on drugsit just doesn't work." "I quit smoking weed... in my car." "I'm a little worried about you guys - you have Kenny G in the jazz section." "Do you guys sell Fimo earrings with the jackrabbit on it? That would be so cool." "F.Y.E.?! How do you spell that?" "Look at Jefferson Airplane, man - if you wanna get me believein' in the revolution again, play Volunteers and we're good to go." "She wants to name her pony 'Pinky The Pony.' I'm gonna tell her that that'll totally clash with our pony names." "You know how, like, some people could never own a bar because they'd drink all the profits? I would so be that way if I owned a record store." - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------- Have A Great Christmas Everybody, And See You On The Avenue! *www.thelastrecordstore.com* | 1899a Mendocino Ave. | Santa Rosa | (707) 525-1963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:03:32 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: dancing clown > That's true - the video is so cute and Joni's joy is so real and the whole thing > is so unpretentious that you almost can forget that the song is a total stinker, > utterly lacking in memorable melody or a meaningful lyric. It is SO below what| > we all know she is capable of. Most of CMIARS falls into that category, actually. I've never seen that video, darn it! I've missed out on things like that, since I so rarely watch MTV, VH1, etc. Sigh ... However, I like Dancin' Clown. It DOES have a memorable melody, for me anyway -- or maybe it's just the chorus that I find memorable (and now, darn it again, it's stuck in my head for the night). Of course, I like Shiny Toys too. I always have. I think it's great that Joni sometimes apparently just feels like writing/playing/singing a fun song. All of Joni's songs don't have to be "meaningful," do they? That said, I agree that most of CMIARS is "below par" as most of us define that. It's one of my least favorite Joni albums, along with TTT which I still cannot really get into. I'm still and always will be a DED-head, though. No, DED isn't a(n) Hejira or an FTR or a Blue or a C&S, but I dig it just the same and I still play it a lot. Part of that is probably based upon the fact that I was stationed in Germany when it came out and a lot of it resonated with me, but another part of it is that I simply LIKE it. Still without Shine here ... I'll get it one of these days ... Lori Santa Rosa, CA ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #512 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------