From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest)
To: joni-digest@smoe.org
Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #510
Reply-To: joni@smoe.org
Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org
Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org
Precedence: bulk
Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe
Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni
Website: http://jonimitchell.com


JMDL Digest        Monday, December 24 2007        Volume 2007 : Number 510



==========

TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
--------
  Re: Turbulent Indigo Christmas    njc  ["Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.n]
  Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL  [Mark-Leon Thorne <mark-leon@iin]
  FACEBOOK                 ["Jamie's Box of Paints" <jamiezubairi@gmail.com>]
  Rian's quizzes, njc                 [Laura Stanley <sweetbirdur@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Lurk no more, njc               [Laura Stanley <sweetbirdur@yahoo.com>]
  Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405                           [srobe444@aol.com]
  Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405   [Monika Bogdanowicz <motitan75@yahoo.com>]

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:29:35 -0800
From: "Randy Remote" <guitarzan@hughes.net>
Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo Christmas    njc

Holy cow, Jeannie-
I'm glad you are okay-what an ordeal

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:58:00 +1100
From: Mark-Leon Thorne <mark-leon@iinet.net.au>
Subject: Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL

Thank you so much for that explanation, Jamie. I truly value your  
knowledge on these matters. I know next to nothing about art. You  
really are the best person for jonimitchell.com's art curator.

BTW do you pronounce it "Goff" or "Go"? As you may know, one of  
Australia's more colourful ex Prime Ministers was Gough Whitlam and  
he pronounced it, "Goff".

Mark in Sydney

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:06:24 +0000
From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" <jamiezubairi@gmail.com>
Subject: FACEBOOK

hmmmm... there are 66,770 on facebook who have listed as being a Joni
fan. Can you imagine if they were ALL on the jmdl? IT would be GREAT
but I can imagine that the inbox would be FULL!!!!

Merry Christmas and Much Joni

Jamie Zoob

- -- 
I am a lonely Painter
I live in a Box of Paints
I'm frightened by the devil
But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid...

Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at

http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1

acting CV and showreel at
http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749

http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Jamie_Zubairi/507811540">Facebook me!</a>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:11:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Laura Stanley <sweetbirdur@yahoo.com>
Subject: Rian's quizzes, njc

Hi Ya'll,

     I'm so impressed with Rian's quizzes!!!! 

     I wish there was a quiz section on
JoniMitchell.com where we could easily access these
quizzes.  They are great learning tools and are really
building my interest in listening more carefully to
Joni's albums but most of all they are so much fun!!!

Love,
Laura  


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Be a better friend, newshound, and 
know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ 

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 05:24:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Laura Stanley <sweetbirdur@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lurk no more, njc

Martha wrote:

Being a librarian,(and I think there are a few on this
list), it  
would be fun too to have NR(now reading). Joni reads a
lot too.


Hi Martha!

     Welcome out of lurkdom!  I always wonder who
might be out there.  I think there is a gold mine of
lurkers.  Hi Lurkers!

    Your NR is a great idea!  

    Please, tell us more about yourself; like when and
how did you discover Joni; what is your favorite Joni
album; what do you think of Shine, do you play an
instrument and/or sing, etc?  We'd love to hear it
all.

Love,
Laura

NR:  The Visionary Window, by Amit Goswami
NP: the sounds of wearing ear plugs


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 09:06:13 -0500
From: srobe444@aol.com
Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405

I have totally lost contact



what is IFTKOMS?




And why do people hate Dancing Clown so much? The song is so much fun, and souch a ken observation of human nature, although I am put off a bit by the "high yellow" reference




still: why do people hate this song?


- -----Original Message-----
From: onlyJMDL Digest <owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org>
To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org
Sent: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 3:00 am
Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405








onlyJMDL Digest      Monday, December 24 2007      Volume 2007 : Number 405



==========

TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
- --------
  Re: JoniQuiz Pt 5: Turbulent Indigo      [Eric Taylor <ewwt@earthlink.net>]
  Dreamland, the album                   [Rian Afriadi <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue        [Monika Bogdanowicz <motitan75@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Hissing Quiz                      [Jahida Jorganes <juhiduh@yahoo.com>]
  ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL   [Rian Afriadi <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Hissing Quiz, Thx 2 Jahida         [Rian Afriadi <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>]
  Re: Dreamland, the album                 [Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com>]
  Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #404                          [StDoherty@aol.com]
  Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL  ["Mark Scott" <mark.travis@gte.n]
  Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL  ["Jamie's Box of Paints" <jamiez]
  SJC 10 best list                     [Michael <michael_quebec@hotmail.com>]
  Turbulent Indigo Christmas         [Jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>]

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:33:35 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Eric Taylor <ewwt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: JoniQuiz Pt 5: Turbulent Indigo

Okay I'll bite again!

>>Arrange these (first mentioned to last mentioned)
(1) Hostile sun beatin down
(2) Jackoffs at the office
(3) Tragedies in the nurseries
(4) The ulcerated ozone<<

1, 4, 2, 3.
 
>>2. How do you stop a runaway train? / How do you stop a ... rain?<<

c. driving
 
>>3. You wanna make Van Goghs, raise 'em up like ...<<

b. sheep

 
>>4. Brash fields, crude crows / In a scary sky.
True or False : Joni talked about Van Gogh's painting titled A Wheatfield With 
Cypresses.<<

It sounds familiar so I vote true.
 
>>5. Jesus was mentioned twice on the album. Once on the song The Magdalene 
Laundries, and once on the song ...<<

b. Turbulent Indigo
 
>>6. True or False : Turbulent Indigo won Best Pop Album at the Grammy but lost 
the Album of The Year category to Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill.<<

Sadly I think that this is true. Although Joni also got a Grammy for best cover 
art. I just loved that she beat out Madonna!!!!!!!!!
 
>>7. Arrange these! (Last chance lost ...)
(1) The shrew will not be tamed
(2) The hero cannot make the change
(3) They bicker on the rifle range<<

2,3,1 ???????

 
>>8. How old was the baby when he said 'Daddy, let's get some girls...'
a. three
b. four
c. five
d. six<<

b. four (i'm sooo tempted to cheat with this one but i won't).
 
<<9. .......... 'Sentenced into dreamless drudgery
a. Woe-begotten daughters
b. Prostitutes and destitutes
c. Peg O'Connel
d. Fallen women
e. Patti Parlette<<

a. we woe-begotten daughters. How could anyone forget this profound line???
 
>>10. Which line is Borderline's last line?
a. Borderlines
b. Will draw a borderline
c. Just a borderline
d. Another borderline<<

Which version???
Okay I vote d.
 
>>11. Which sentence is Yvette's very first sentence?
a. Do you have a cigarette?
b. comment vous appelez-vous?
c. Please have this
d. Avez-vous un allumette?
e. Voulez-vous coucher avec-moi ce soir?
f. O lalalala bebe. C'est dur dur d'etre bebe.<<

Oh Jesus I'm not good at French! But I think it's d.
 
>>12. What is the genre/style of the front cover painting?
a. Post-Impressionism
b. Expressionism
c. Art nouveau
d. Fauvism
e. Hedonism<<

Definately Post-Impressionism!
 
>>13. Who played the percussion part on the song Sex Kills?
a. Joni Mitchell
b. Jim Keltner
c. Carlos Vega
d. Don Alias<<

I believe that was Joni and Larry drumming away.
 
>>14. What was the weapon used by the main character of the song Sunny Sunday?
a. gun
b. Iraq's weapon of mass destruction (O! Now we know why Mr. Bush couldn't find
it!)
c. pistol
d. riffle<<

Come on, this is too easy!!! C.
 
>>15. Who is the guest vocalist on the song How Do You Stop?
a. Charlie Midnight
b. Dan Hartman
c. Seal<<

C. Seal.


Gee I sure hope I pass this latest Joni test!
If not I'm afraid I'm going straight to hell in a bucket of my own making.
This is a lot of fun, Rian.
Thank U for such a fun challenge!

ET

NP: STB (T'log)

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:12:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>
Subject: Dreamland, the album

Ah, actually i was going to send you the answer of TI&THOSL Quiz. But i forgot 
to bring my FD.
   
  Anyway, is Dreamland (the album) = The Best of Joni Mitchell??
  Dancing Clown is on the tracklist.
   
  Rian
  NP. Beatles - Drive My Car

       
- - ---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:46:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Monika Bogdanowicz <motitan75@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue

  7. Which CSN&Y member made a contribution on this album?
  a. Neil Young
  b. Graham Nash
  c. David Crosby
  d. Stephen Stills
  e. Bob Muller
 
    E!  Everybody knows that Bob was the brains of that band.  So tell me 
Bob....what was it like playing on Joni's album?


- - -Monika
"We all come and go unknown..."
       
- - ---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:54:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Jahida Jorganes <juhiduh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hissing Quiz

Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:36:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>
Subject: JoniQuiz Pt. 6 : the Hissing of Summer Lawns

Grand prize for those who score 100%:
  Chippendale where nobody sits in
   
   
  1. "The Jungle Line" borrows a field recording from Africa of the
 Warrior Drums of ....., onto which Joni dubs guitar, synthesizer and her
 vocal line.
 
  d. Burundi
   
  2. How many black men are there on the cover of the album?

  b. 5
 
   
  3. Which guest artist did not yell Do you want to dance? on In France
 They Kiss On Main Street?
 
  c. Graham Nash (pure guess)
  
   
  4. A diamond dog / Carrying a ...... and a cane

  c. cup
   
  5. Arrange this famous line:
guesses/based/on/what/is/set/of/time/and/change/is/touching  

change / on / based / set / touching / each / and / is / guesses /
 what / of / time
   
  6. Edith in his bed / A ... in the rain is humming / The wires in the
 walls are humming

  d. plane  (My favorite Joni song!)
   
  7. Which one is the song that talks about a woman who is being
 treated as part of her husband's portfolio?

  b. Harrys House / Centerpiece
   
  8. What is boho?
  a. somebody who does not live according to the conventions of society
 
  c. bohemian
 
   
  9. Arrange this! (track order)
  (2) Harry's House/Centerpiece
  (4) Shades of Scarlet Conquering
  (5) The Boho Dance
  (3) The Hissing of Summer Lawn
  (1) Don't Interrupt The Sorrow
   
  10. Arrange this!
  (4) Through savage progress cuts the jungle line
  (1) Through huts through Harlem through jails and gospel pews
  (3) Through Europe and the deep deep heart of Dixie blue
  (2) Through the class on Park and the trash on Vine
   
  11. Who is Rousseau? (mentioned on The Jungle Line)
  
  b. An artist also known as Le Douanier.
  c. A forerunner of impressionism, recognized for his masterpiece
 Outskirt of The Forest of Fountainebleau.

   
  12. Which sentence is IFTKOMS's last line?
  a. And we were rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
  b. We were rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
  c. And we'd be rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
  d. Rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
  e. Yeah!
   
  13. Watching those high fashion girls / Skinny black models with ...
 curls
  
  b. raven
 
   
  14. Jesus was mentioned once. On which song?
   
   (e). none of the above.  It was in IFTKOMS
   
  15. True or False : Shadows and Light is Joni's first guitar and
 piano-free song.  False
   
  16. True or False : Rolling Stone Magazine declared the album The
 Worst Album Title of The Year. True

Bonus Question. Beware! This is the most difficult one.
  Which JMDL member uses a phrase from the album as her email address?
  a. Laura Stanley
 
 I hope I did better on this one!  And here I thought I knew
some Joni stuff...I know absolute shit!


       
- - ---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:18:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>
Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL

ANSWER
  Turbulent Quiz
  Warning : i wrote this using Ms Word, and then paste it. So, you cant find 
apostrophes.
   
  1. (2) (3) (4) (1)
   
  2. c. driving
   
  3. b. sheep
   
  4. False. The painting is called Crows In Wheatfield. This painting is Van 
Goghs last painting, he painted it just before his suicide. For those who 
havent seen it, please give the masterpiece a look. What a tortured artist Van 
Gogh was!
  <<Anyway, A Wheatfield with Cypresses is also a great painting>> <<I guess 
Joni is so influenced by Van Gogh>>
   
  5. b. Turbulent Indigo
  No mercy Sweet Jesus! / No mercy from Turbulent Indigo
   
  6. F. TI was not even nominated on Album of The Year Category. Only best pop 
album and best packaging.
   
  7. (2) (1) (3)
   
  8. a. three
  I heard your baby say / When he was only three / "Daddy let's get some girls / 

One for you and one for me".
  I wonder if Hugh Heffners son asked the same question...
   
  9. e. Patti Parlette.
  No! Kidding. The right one is d. Fallen women
  (Hi Patti, howre you?)
   
  10. d. Another borderline
  (a little bit difficult eh?)
   
  11. d. Avez-vous un allumette?
  The answer f. <O lalalala bebe. Cest dur dur detre bebe> is from a song made 
popular by a baby singer from France, Jordy, back in 1992 (do you remember 
him?). I wonder where he is right now...
   
  12. a. Post-Impressionism
   
  13. our hero, a. Joni Mitchell
   
  14. c. pistol
  Then she points a pistol through the door
   
  15. c. Seal
   
   
  ANSWER
  The Hissing Quiz
  
1. d. Burundi
   
  2. b. 5 people
  <<< gossip says that the green house on the right was Jonis house. Is that 
true?>>>
   
  3. a. John Guerin
  John Guerin was the drummer on all tracks except The Jungle Line and Sweet 
Bird
   
  4. c. cup
   
  5. Guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching


  6. d. plane
   
  7. c. The Hissing of Summer Lawn
   
  8. boho is c. bohemian
  And bohemian is a. somebody who does not live according to the conventions of 
society
  <<<source : Microsoft Encarta Dictionary>>> <<disagree? Sue Bill Gates!>>
   
  9. (5) (2) (4) (3) (1)
   
  10. (2) (4) (3) (1)
   
  11. b. An artist also known as Le Douanier. (his real name is Henri Rousseau) 
(Have you seen his paintings called The Snake Charmer and oh, whats the name, i 
forgot? The Hunter)
  a. is Jean Jacques Rousseau
  c. is Theodore Rousseau
  d. is Robinson Cruso
  e. is Madame Tussaud, and
  f. is Greta Garbo
  (too many Rousseaus, too little land)
  (Patti, is your fullname Patti Parlette Rousseau?)
   
  12. d. Rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
  Lyric section of jonimitchell.com suggests it was c. <<And we'd be rolling 
rolling rock 'n' rolling>>. But, check the song yourself.
   
  13. b. raven
  Mark-Scott told me that it was actually raveen hair.
   
  14. b. The Boho Dance
  Jesus was a beggar, he was rich in grace


  15. False! Remember The Fiddle and The Drum?
   
  16. True. But most people mistakenly thought that RS declared the album the 
worst album of the year. Anyway, i still cant understand why so many people 
hated the album.
   
  Bonus Question.
  d. Catherine McKay, <anima_rising>
  Laura Stanley uses <sweetbirdur>, but i guess sweetbirdur is not a phrase. It 
is a sentence.
   
  Rian
  Who uses <do9eatdo9>
  PS. Actually i still have tons of quiz stocks, but i think im gonna save them 
for now (naysayers : Hurrah! Finally he stop it) and post them some time soon 
(O No! Not again!!!). :-D. I have a feeling youll be busy this Xmas time and 
wont have time doing this quiz. So, save it for after Xmas.
  Anyway, it is almost Dec 25th, Merry Christmas for those who celebrate it. For 
those who dont (like me), well, just go celebrate no day special.
   
  PS: Anyway, who won those Chippendales???
  PS: Mark-Scott roxx again! His scored 87% on both quizzes!! You got higher 
scores? Dont be shy telling us.
  PS: Another thing that i like from this quiz: there are few lurkers (whom i 
never read their names on the list) sent their answers. Hi to you all!

       
- - ---------------------------------
Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:30:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hissing Quiz, Thx 2 Jahida

Jahida wrote :
   

14. Jesus was mentioned once. On which song?
  >>>(e). none of the above.  It was in IFTKOMS
   
  +++ Oh yeah! I forgot that Jesus was also mentioned on IFTKOMS!
  Conclusion : On THOSL, Jesus was mentioned twice, once on IFTKOMS and once on 
The Boho Dance.
   
  Thanks Jahida!!!
   
  Rian
  NP. IFTKOMS
  PS.
  Jahida also wrote :
  <<<my favorite>> (referring to Edith and Kingpin)
   
  ++ Well Jahida, you've got a good taste.
  How do i know?
  I love that song too.
  :-)

       
- - ---------------------------------
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:10:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Muller <scjoniguy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dreamland, the album

<Anyway, is Dreamland (the album) = The Best of Joni
 Mitchell??
  Dancing Clown is on the tracklist.>
   
  So, you answered your own question there, Rian. Having Dancing Clown on the 
tracklist is akin to placing a turd in the punchbowl...no matter how good the 
rest of the mix is, it becomes instantly tainted with a foul stench.
   
  DC notwithstanding, Dreamland is a pretty good compilation, albeit one with no 
purpose. I would think that most Joni fans would consider "Hits" as the generic 
"Best of Joni Mitchell", that is if you define *best* as *most popular*. Joni, 
by her own admission and backed up by much evidence, was never a hitmaker on her 
own - it was not her career path. As for royalty pennies, now that's another 
story - she's achieved more in that category than most artists can even dream 
of. I would also imagine that most of us, in compiling a "Best Of Joni 
Mitchell", would steer very clear of the more familiar songs in favor of those 
that affect us on a more personal and powerful level.
   
  If you ask me, I think Dreamland was a subversive way to get some eartime for 
some of Joni's songs (the aforementioned turd, the inferior orchestral versions 
of Amelia & For The Roses, Nothing Can Be Done) by including them in with titles 
that people were familiar with (Free Man In Paris, Carey, BYT, etc).
   
  Bob
   
  NP: Elvis Costello, "When It Sings"




       
- - ---------------------------------
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:04:37 EST
From: StDoherty@aol.com
Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #404

Anyone know how I can get a copy of the Turner tribute to  Joni?





**************************************See AOL's top rated recipes 
(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:26:15 -0800
From: "Mark Scott" <mark.travis@gte.net>
Subject: Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL

- - ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rian Afriadi" <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>
To: "jonipeople" <joni@smoe.org>; "eric" <ewwt@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL


>  12. a. Post-Impressionism
>

Not meaning to quibble with Rian about this answer.  I have really 
been enjoying the quizzes.

But I'm curious as to how Van Gogh's painting style is correctly 
categorized.  According to Wikipedia:

 Van Gogh is a pioneer of what came to be known as Expressionism. He 
had an enormous influence on 20th century art, especially on the 
Fauves and German Expressionists.


And yet the very first sentence of the entry in Wikipedia says:

Vincent Willem van Gogh (30 March 1853 - 29 July 1890) was a Dutch 
Post-Impressionist artist.


So.  Did Van Gogh begin as a Post-Impressionist painter and then 
progressively develope into an Expressionist?  If so, how would you 
class the painting with the fur hat, overcoat and bandaged head that 
Joni parodied on the cover of Turbulent Indigo?  Art experts?  Is 
Debra Shea still out there lurking somewhere?

Mark in Seattle

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:01:20 +0000
From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" <jamiezubairi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL

Well, he came directly after what the critics called 'Impressionism'
but was more than merely just 'after impressionism' as that doesn't
really cover what Van Gogh did to the art world... It was his
expressionistic use of colour and brushstrokes which gave his work a
the expressionism that we understand it to be. But contemporary
critics wouldn't have been able to call Van Gogh an 'Epressionist' as
they hadn't coined the term in that way, that term (for artists, I
believe) came much later. So technically, he's a Post
Impressionist....

So perhaps Joni's parody is Expressionistic but she's parodying a Post
Impressionist! lol

Much Joni

Jamie Zoob

On 23/12/2007, Mark Scott <mark.travis@gte.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rian Afriadi" <do9eatdo9@yahoo.com>
> To: "jonipeople" <joni@smoe.org>; "eric" <ewwt@earthlink.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:18 AM
> Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL
>
>
> >  12. a. Post-Impressionism
> >
>
> Not meaning to quibble with Rian about this answer.  I have really
> been enjoying the quizzes.
>
> But I'm curious as to how Van Gogh's painting style is correctly
> categorized.  According to Wikipedia:
>
>  Van Gogh is a pioneer of what came to be known as Expressionism. He
> had an enormous influence on 20th century art, especially on the
> Fauves and German Expressionists.
>
>
> And yet the very first sentence of the entry in Wikipedia says:
>
> Vincent Willem van Gogh (30 March 1853 - 29 July 1890) was a Dutch
> Post-Impressionist artist.
>
>
> So.  Did Van Gogh begin as a Post-Impressionist painter and then
> progressively develope into an Expressionist?  If so, how would you
> class the painting with the fur hat, overcoat and bandaged head that
> Joni parodied on the cover of Turbulent Indigo?  Art experts?  Is
> Debra Shea still out there lurking somewhere?
>
> Mark in Seattle
>


- - -- 
I am a lonely Painter
I live in a Box of Paints
I'm frightened by the devil
But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid...

Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at

http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1

acting CV and showreel at
http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749

http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/p/Jamie_Zubairi/507811540">Facebook me!</a>

- ------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:49:34 +0000
From: Michael <michael_quebec@hotmail.com>
Subject: SJC 10 best list

Time to be thinking about changing that wall calendar and looking back on all
the great moments of the past year. Here is my list of 10 cd's that brought me
much pleasure.

1. Shine - of course. How lucky we were this yearto be treated, to not one,
but two, Joniesque releases. And a Joni release is always cause for
celebration. While her record was generally well received, it has failed to
appear on many of the 10-best lists that I've seen so far. Whatever, it's
certainly on mine.

2. And, Herbie Hancock - River : the Joni Letters, follows as a close second.
What a treat this album is. Can't beat his collaborators either, ahem, except
for Leonard's offering !

3. Coral Egan - Magnify. Soulful songs with a heart and a groove from one of
the bright lights of the Montreal music scene.

4. Feist - The Reminder. While not as ground-breaking as her previous release,
Let it Die, this CD still ranks high above the masses of similar alt-pop
efforts. Feist is glory bound for the Grammys this year, as this record
appears on just about every top 10 list I've seen so far.

5. Patty Griffin - Children Run Through. The voice. That strong, crystal clear
voice, that goes straight to the heart. A stunner.

6. Pascale Picard Band - Me Myself and Us. This upstart from Quebec City is
riding a meteoric wave of critical and commercial success in this neck of the
woods. Her tuneful Alanis-like debut record rocks great.

7. Koop - Islands. I love this group. The electro pop, nu-jazz duo from Sweden
attracts great collaborators. Swing cabaret. This album has spun around many
times in my player over the last year.

8. Claire Martin - He Never Mentioned Love. Britain's greatest jazz stylist
pays hommage to the late, great, greater, greatest, Shirley Horn. Another show
stopper.

9. Molly Johnson - If You Know Love. This Toronto powerhouse has a growly
groove like no other. Always a satisfying listen.

10. Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings - 100 Days and 100 Nights. Move over, Amy
Winehouse. Sharon Jones is the real thang, baby. A high five for this one.

Happy holidays everyone. Again, it's been a pleasure being connected to you.
All my best for the coming year.

Michael in Quebec

_________________________________________________________________
Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon!
http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:20:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeannie <dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com>
Subject: Turbulent Indigo Christmas

I've thought of this place {the jmdl} often as I am
going through one of the most strangest times and
'darkest nights of the soul' in my life. I give thanks
with ALL that I am for the JMDL and each and everyone
of you--y'all have no idea the gratitude I feel. I owe
much to a dear friend of mine here in San Antonio,
too, who has helped me keep my head above the raging
river these past two days. I also owe a compassionate
neighbor a great favor for a healing touch and prayer.

The other night (Friday) I was resting and reading the
JMDL in my bedroom at my mom's house with 4 of my dogs
all around. I had a little fragrant candle burning. I
thought, "Let me give my three cats their Fancy Feast
and scratch their little heads before they retire."
I looked at the Calgon candle and saw it was a very
tiny flame, yet hesitated, but thought, "I'll be right
back."
I had to have been with the cats in the very next room
for about three minutes when I heard a loud pop, then
two more. I ran to the bedroom and saw a small fire. I
grabbed the dog's water bowl and threw it on the
flame. I grabbed the dogs, screamed to my son, who
came running to only see the flame grow into a bigger
flame. I ran to my mother and her beloved poodle and
got them out. She was going on really slow until I
shouted, "GET OUT NOW--the fire's growing really
quick." She wanted to call the fire department from
the land line until she saw the smoke traveling from
my room to her room and we are separated by a large
space, so by then realized it was trouble. 

One of my dogs got separated and the smoke was
becoming unbearable for me to try to look for her any
longer. My son and I tried to put the flame out
through my window with the backyard hose only to
realize the gardener told us he had run over it,
shredding it with his lawn mower. We were is dismay.
He ran to the front yard and brought that heavy duty
bulky hose with it's heavy carrier to the back faucet
only to not find the disconnect somewhere in that
twirled up hose holder. He was frantic as the dogs
were. He screamed for me to put the dogs in the kennel
before we lost another one. The fire fighters finally
got there. My mattress caught full flame by then. I
knew we were all alive, so nothing else mattered. Only
my red-bone coon hound could not be found. I kept
running through every space I could, trying to call
her name but the smoke was so thick me and the
firefighters assured me they were looking for her all
over the house but couldn't find her. I was
heartbroken. 

Finally, the firemen got the fire under control after
what seemed a lifetime. They were some of the most
caring, compassionate and courageous men I have ever
come across. From now on, I will volunteer my time for
the firefighters in every cause they come across.
Luckily only part of my room was totally destroyed but
the insurance company said it's a total loss. My
laptop is gone.

I begged God to spare me my Betty, my hound dog. I had
searched all over the neighborhood for her in my
truck. My mom tried to calm me and told me she'd be
back. I told my son, "Please Gibby, bring her home to
me." As soon as he walked out she came in trembling
with those big, sad beautiful hound dog eyes and I was
sooo happy.

The first thing I did was write you guys.

Everything was fine until the next day that one of my
greedy brothers wanted to take control of the whole
insurance ordeal and blaming me, telling me I started
the fire by leaving a cigarette lit and that I had to
get rid of all of dogs and that I was not even
entitled to a laptop even though the insurance
company's content limit was given to my room. The fire
investigator's report stated the fire was started by
the candle. (I never leave a cigarette burning without
me there and I shall never leave another candle on.)
All hell broke loose here because of that and I took
off to my place. I just now came back to visit my son
and the two dogs I had to leave behind and come tell
y'all that you're all so very special to me and I miss
y'all and I wish you and yours the best holidays ever.

Everything happens for a reason, especially around
this special season. 
Hugs and kisses under the mistletoe to all.

A special embrace to Bo, Rian, and Eric who seem to
always bring tears of joy to my soul...and to Joni, I
love you most of all, especially now during this dark
night of the soul when you're always with me somehow
through your artistic expressions which always let me
know there's hope even in the most turbulent of times
in all shades and hues of indigo and blue!

Love, 
Jeannie

PS: My poor desperate brother's just going a little
nutty since his Bush boy blew his conservative
financial future away.  
Now, he' sorry for his behavior because he wanted to
keep the content money for himself by putting blame on
me (Mother always lets him have his way because he's
the "baby boy")--greed destroys all the love that
could be. Please pray for him.

PSII: DO NOT leave candles burning on without
supervision not even for a lickety-split
second---PLEASE!!

PSIII: I'll soon be back with a new and better laptop
and a new and better me!

nj
   
  '



      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.  http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

- ------------------------------

End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405
*********************************

- -------
Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org
Unsubscribe by clicking here:
mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe
- -------
Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm)



 





________________________________________________________________________
More new features than ever.  Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:21:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Monika Bogdanowicz <motitan75@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405

  IFTKOMS is "In France They Kiss On Main Street," the fine, fine opening track of Hissing.  
  -M

srobe444@aol.com wrote:
  I have totally lost contact



what is IFTKOMS?




And why do people hate Dancing Clown so much? The song is so much fun, and souch a ken observation of human nature, although I am put off a bit by the "high yellow" reference




still: why do people hate this song?


- -----Original Message-----
From: onlyJMDL Digest 
To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org
Sent: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 3:00 am
Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #405








onlyJMDL Digest Monday, December 24 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 405



==========

TOPICS and authors in this Digest:
- --------
Re: JoniQuiz Pt 5: Turbulent Indigo [Eric Taylor ]
Dreamland, the album [Rian Afriadi ]
Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue [Monika Bogdanowicz ]
Re: Hissing Quiz [Jahida Jorganes ]
ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL [Rian Afriadi ]
Re: Hissing Quiz, Thx 2 Jahida [Rian Afriadi ]
Re: Dreamland, the album [Bob Muller ]
Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #404 [StDoherty@aol.com]
Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL ["Mark Scott" Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL ["Jamie's Box of Paints" SJC 10 best list [Michael ]
Turbulent Indigo Christmas [Jeannie ]

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:33:35 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Eric Taylor 
Subject: Re: JoniQuiz Pt 5: Turbulent Indigo

Okay I'll bite again!

>>Arrange these (first mentioned to last mentioned)
(1) Hostile sun beatin down
(2) Jackoffs at the office
(3) Tragedies in the nurseries
(4) The ulcerated ozone<<

1, 4, 2, 3.

>>2. How do you stop a runaway train? / How do you stop a ... rain?<<

c. driving

>>3. You wanna make Van Goghs, raise 'em up like ...<<

b. sheep


>>4. Brash fields, crude crows / In a scary sky.
True or False : Joni talked about Van Gogh's painting titled A Wheatfield With 
Cypresses.<<

It sounds familiar so I vote true.

>>5. Jesus was mentioned twice on the album. Once on the song The Magdalene 
Laundries, and once on the song ...<<

b. Turbulent Indigo

>>6. True or False : Turbulent Indigo won Best Pop Album at the Grammy but lost 
the Album of The Year category to Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill.<<

Sadly I think that this is true. Although Joni also got a Grammy for best cover 
art. I just loved that she beat out Madonna!!!!!!!!!

>>7. Arrange these! (Last chance lost ...)
(1) The shrew will not be tamed
(2) The hero cannot make the change
(3) They bicker on the rifle range<<

2,3,1 ???????


>>8. How old was the baby when he said 'Daddy, let's get some girls...'
a. three
b. four
c. five
d. six<<

b. four (i'm sooo tempted to cheat with this one but i won't).

<<9. .......... 'Sentenced into dreamless drudgery
a. Woe-begotten daughters
b. Prostitutes and destitutes
c. Peg O'Connel
d. Fallen women
e. Patti Parlette<<

a. we woe-begotten daughters. How could anyone forget this profound line???

>>10. Which line is Borderline's last line?
a. Borderlines
b. Will draw a borderline
c. Just a borderline
d. Another borderline<<

Which version???
Okay I vote d.

>>11. Which sentence is Yvette's very first sentence?
a. Do you have a cigarette?
b. comment vous appelez-vous?
c. Please have this
d. Avez-vous un allumette?
e. Voulez-vous coucher avec-moi ce soir?
f. O lalalala bebe. C'est dur dur d'etre bebe.<<

Oh Jesus I'm not good at French! But I think it's d.

>>12. What is the genre/style of the front cover painting?
a. Post-Impressionism
b. Expressionism
c. Art nouveau
d. Fauvism
e. Hedonism<<

Definately Post-Impressionism!

>>13. Who played the percussion part on the song Sex Kills?
a. Joni Mitchell
b. Jim Keltner
c. Carlos Vega
d. Don Alias<<

I believe that was Joni and Larry drumming away.

>>14. What was the weapon used by the main character of the song Sunny Sunday?
a. gun
b. Iraq's weapon of mass destruction (O! Now we know why Mr. Bush couldn't find
it!)
c. pistol
d. riffle<<

Come on, this is too easy!!! C.

>>15. Who is the guest vocalist on the song How Do You Stop?
a. Charlie Midnight
b. Dan Hartman
c. Seal<<

C. Seal.


Gee I sure hope I pass this latest Joni test!
If not I'm afraid I'm going straight to hell in a bucket of my own making.
This is a lot of fun, Rian.
Thank U for such a fun challenge!

ET

NP: STB (T'log)

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:12:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi 
Subject: Dreamland, the album

Ah, actually i was going to send you the answer of TI&THOSL Quiz. But i forgot 
to bring my FD.

Anyway, is Dreamland (the album) = The Best of Joni Mitchell??
Dancing Clown is on the tracklist.

Rian
NP. Beatles - Drive My Car


- - ---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:46:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Monika Bogdanowicz 
Subject: Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue

7. Which CSN&Y member made a contribution on this album?
a. Neil Young
b. Graham Nash
c. David Crosby
d. Stephen Stills
e. Bob Muller

E! Everybody knows that Bob was the brains of that band. So tell me 
Bob....what was it like playing on Joni's album?


- - -Monika
"We all come and go unknown..."

- - ---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:54:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Jahida Jorganes 
Subject: Re: Hissing Quiz

Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:36:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi 
Subject: JoniQuiz Pt. 6 : the Hissing of Summer Lawns

Grand prize for those who score 100%:
Chippendale where nobody sits in


1. "The Jungle Line" borrows a field recording from Africa of the
Warrior Drums of ....., onto which Joni dubs guitar, synthesizer and her
vocal line.

d. Burundi

2. How many black men are there on the cover of the album?

b. 5


3. Which guest artist did not yell Do you want to dance? on In France
They Kiss On Main Street?

c. Graham Nash (pure guess)


4. A diamond dog / Carrying a ...... and a cane

c. cup

5. Arrange this famous line:
guesses/based/on/what/is/set/of/time/and/change/is/touching 

change / on / based / set / touching / each / and / is / guesses /
what / of / time

6. Edith in his bed / A ... in the rain is humming / The wires in the
walls are humming

d. plane (My favorite Joni song!)

7. Which one is the song that talks about a woman who is being
treated as part of her husband's portfolio?

b. Harrys House / Centerpiece

8. What is boho?
a. somebody who does not live according to the conventions of society

c. bohemian


9. Arrange this! (track order)
(2) Harry's House/Centerpiece
(4) Shades of Scarlet Conquering
(5) The Boho Dance
(3) The Hissing of Summer Lawn
(1) Don't Interrupt The Sorrow

10. Arrange this!
(4) Through savage progress cuts the jungle line
(1) Through huts through Harlem through jails and gospel pews
(3) Through Europe and the deep deep heart of Dixie blue
(2) Through the class on Park and the trash on Vine

11. Who is Rousseau? (mentioned on The Jungle Line)

b. An artist also known as Le Douanier.
c. A forerunner of impressionism, recognized for his masterpiece
Outskirt of The Forest of Fountainebleau.


12. Which sentence is IFTKOMS's last line?
a. And we were rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
b. We were rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
c. And we'd be rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
d. Rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
e. Yeah!

13. Watching those high fashion girls / Skinny black models with ...
curls

b. raven


14. Jesus was mentioned once. On which song?

(e). none of the above. It was in IFTKOMS

15. True or False : Shadows and Light is Joni's first guitar and
piano-free song. False

16. True or False : Rolling Stone Magazine declared the album The
Worst Album Title of The Year. True

Bonus Question. Beware! This is the most difficult one.
Which JMDL member uses a phrase from the album as her email address?
a. Laura Stanley

I hope I did better on this one! And here I thought I knew
some Joni stuff...I know absolute shit!



- - ---------------------------------
Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:18:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi 
Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL

ANSWER
Turbulent Quiz
Warning : i wrote this using Ms Word, and then paste it. So, you cant find 
apostrophes.

1. (2) (3) (4) (1)

2. c. driving

3. b. sheep

4. False. The painting is called Crows In Wheatfield. This painting is Van 
Goghs last painting, he painted it just before his suicide. For those who 
havent seen it, please give the masterpiece a look. What a tortured artist Van 
Gogh was!
<> <Joni is so influenced by Van Gogh>>

5. b. Turbulent Indigo
No mercy Sweet Jesus! / No mercy from Turbulent Indigo

6. F. TI was not even nominated on Album of The Year Category. Only best pop 
album and best packaging.

7. (2) (1) (3)

8. a. three
I heard your baby say / When he was only three / "Daddy let's get some girls / 

One for you and one for me".
I wonder if Hugh Heffners son asked the same question...

9. e. Patti Parlette.
No! Kidding. The right one is d. Fallen women
(Hi Patti, howre you?)

10. d. Another borderline
(a little bit difficult eh?)

11. d. Avez-vous un allumette?
The answer f. is from a song made 
popular by a baby singer from France, Jordy, back in 1992 (do you remember 
him?). I wonder where he is right now...

12. a. Post-Impressionism

13. our hero, a. Joni Mitchell

14. c. pistol
Then she points a pistol through the door

15. c. Seal


ANSWER
The Hissing Quiz

1. d. Burundi

2. b. 5 people
<<< gossip says that the green house on the right was Jonis house. Is that 
true?>>>

3. a. John Guerin
John Guerin was the drummer on all tracks except The Jungle Line and Sweet 
Bird

4. c. cup

5. Guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching


6. d. plane

7. c. The Hissing of Summer Lawn

8. boho is c. bohemian
And bohemian is a. somebody who does not live according to the conventions of 
society
<<>> <>

9. (5) (2) (4) (3) (1)

10. (2) (4) (3) (1)

11. b. An artist also known as Le Douanier. (his real name is Henri Rousseau) 
(Have you seen his paintings called The Snake Charmer and oh, whats the name, i 
forgot? The Hunter)
a. is Jean Jacques Rousseau
c. is Theodore Rousseau
d. is Robinson Cruso
e. is Madame Tussaud, and
f. is Greta Garbo
(too many Rousseaus, too little land)
(Patti, is your fullname Patti Parlette Rousseau?)

12. d. Rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling
Lyric section of jonimitchell.com suggests it was c. <rolling rock 'n' rolling>>. But, check the song yourself.

13. b. raven
Mark-Scott told me that it was actually raveen hair.

14. b. The Boho Dance
Jesus was a beggar, he was rich in grace


15. False! Remember The Fiddle and The Drum?

16. True. But most people mistakenly thought that RS declared the album the 
worst album of the year. Anyway, i still cant understand why so many people 
hated the album.

Bonus Question.
d. Catherine McKay, 
Laura Stanley uses , but i guess sweetbirdur is not a phrase. It 
is a sentence.

Rian
Who uses 
PS. Actually i still have tons of quiz stocks, but i think im gonna save them 
for now (naysayers : Hurrah! Finally he stop it) and post them some time soon 
(O No! Not again!!!). :-D. I have a feeling youll be busy this Xmas time and 
wont have time doing this quiz. So, save it for after Xmas.
Anyway, it is almost Dec 25th, Merry Christmas for those who celebrate it. For 
those who dont (like me), well, just go celebrate no day special.

PS: Anyway, who won those Chippendales???
PS: Mark-Scott roxx again! His scored 87% on both quizzes!! You got higher 
scores? Dont be shy telling us.
PS: Another thing that i like from this quiz: there are few lurkers (whom i 
never read their names on the list) sent their answers. Hi to you all!


- - ---------------------------------
Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:30:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Rian Afriadi 
Subject: Re: Hissing Quiz, Thx 2 Jahida

Jahida wrote :


14. Jesus was mentioned once. On which song?
>>>(e). none of the above. It was in IFTKOMS

+++ Oh yeah! I forgot that Jesus was also mentioned on IFTKOMS!
Conclusion : On THOSL, Jesus was mentioned twice, once on IFTKOMS and once on 
The Boho Dance.

Thanks Jahida!!!

Rian
NP. IFTKOMS
PS.
Jahida also wrote :
<<> (referring to Edith and Kingpin)

++ Well Jahida, you've got a good taste.
How do i know?
I love that song too.
:-)


- - ---------------------------------
Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:10:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Muller 
Subject: Re: Dreamland, the album

Mitchell??
Dancing Clown is on the tracklist.>

So, you answered your own question there, Rian. Having Dancing Clown on the 
tracklist is akin to placing a turd in the punchbowl...no matter how good the 
rest of the mix is, it becomes instantly tainted with a foul stench.

DC notwithstanding, Dreamland is a pretty good compilation, albeit one with no 
purpose. I would think that most Joni fans would consider "Hits" as the generic 
"Best of Joni Mitchell", that is if you define *best* as *most popular*. Joni, 
by her own admission and backed up by much evidence, was never a hitmaker on her 
own - it was not her career path. As for royalty pennies, now that's another 
story - she's achieved more in that category than most artists can even dream 
of. I would also imagine that most of us, in compiling a "Best Of Joni 
Mitchell", would steer very clear of the more familiar songs in favor of those 
that affect us on a more personal and powerful level.

If you ask me, I think Dreamland was a subversive way to get some eartime for 
some of Joni's songs (the aforementioned turd, the inferior orchestral versions 
of Amelia & For The Roses, Nothing Can Be Done) by including them in with titles 
that people were familiar with (Free Man In Paris, Carey, BYT, etc).

Bob

NP: Elvis Costello, "When It Sings"





- - ---------------------------------
Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:04:37 EST
From: StDoherty@aol.com
Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #404

Anyone know how I can get a copy of the Turner tribute to Joni?





**************************************See AOL's top rated recipes 
(http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:26:15 -0800
From: "Mark Scott" 
Subject: Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL

- - ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rian Afriadi" 
To: "jonipeople" ; "eric" 
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:18 AM
Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL


> 12. a. Post-Impressionism
>

Not meaning to quibble with Rian about this answer. I have really 
been enjoying the quizzes.

But I'm curious as to how Van Gogh's painting style is correctly 
categorized. According to Wikipedia:

Van Gogh is a pioneer of what came to be known as Expressionism. He 
had an enormous influence on 20th century art, especially on the 
Fauves and German Expressionists.


And yet the very first sentence of the entry in Wikipedia says:

Vincent Willem van Gogh (30 March 1853 - 29 July 1890) was a Dutch 
Post-Impressionist artist.


So. Did Van Gogh begin as a Post-Impressionist painter and then 
progressively develope into an Expressionist? If so, how would you 
class the painting with the fur hat, overcoat and bandaged head that 
Joni parodied on the cover of Turbulent Indigo? Art experts? Is 
Debra Shea still out there lurking somewhere?

Mark in Seattle

- ------------------------------

Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:01:20 +0000
From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" 
Subject: Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL

Well, he came directly after what the critics called 'Impressionism'
but was more than merely just 'after impressionism' as that doesn't
really cover what Van Gogh did to the art world... It was his
expressionistic use of colour and brushstrokes which gave his work a
the expressionism that we understand it to be. But contemporary
critics wouldn't have been able to call Van Gogh an 'Epressionist' as
they hadn't coined the term in that way, that term (for artists, I
believe) came much later. So technically, he's a Post
Impressionist....

So perhaps Joni's parody is Expressionistic but she's parodying a Post
Impressionist! lol

Much Joni

Jamie Zoob

On 23/12/2007, Mark Scott wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rian Afriadi" 
> To: "jonipeople" ; "eric" 
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:18 AM
> Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL
>
>
> > 12. a. Post-Impressionism
> >
>
> Not meaning to quibble with Rian about this answer. I have really
> been enjoying the quizzes.
>
> But I'm curious as to how Van Gogh's painting style is correctly
> categorized. According to Wikipedia:
>
> Van Gogh is a pioneer of what came to be known as Expressionism. He
> had an enormous influence on 20th century art, especially on the
> Fauves and German Expressionists.
>
>
> And yet the very first sentence of the entry in Wikipedia says:
>
> Vincent Willem van Gogh (30 March 1853 - 29 July 1890) was a Dutch
> Post-Impressionist artist.
>
>
> So. Did Van Gogh begin as a Post-Impressionist painter and then
> progressively develope into an Expressionist? If so, how would you
> class the painting with the fur hat, overcoat and bandaged head that
> Joni parodied on the cover of Turbulent Indigo? Art experts? Is
> Debra Shea still out there lurking somewhere?
>
> Mark in Seattle
>


- - -- 
I am a lonely Painter
I live in a Box of Paints
I'm frightened by the devil
But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid...

Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at

http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1

acting CV and showreel at
http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749

http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk
Facebook me!

- ------------------------------

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:49:34 +0000
From: Michael 
Subject: SJC 10 best list

Time to be thinking about changing that wall calendar and looking back on all
the great moments of the past year. Here is my list of 10 cd's that brought me
much pleasure.

1. Shine - of course. How lucky we were this yearto be treated, to not one,
but two, Joniesque releases. And a Joni release is always cause for
celebration. While her record was generally well received, it has failed to
appear on many of the 10-best lists that I've seen so far. Whatever, it's
certainly on mine.

2. And, Herbie Hancock - River : the Joni Letters, follows as a close second.
What a treat this album is. Can't beat his collaborators either, ahem, except
for Leonard's offering !


=== message truncated ===

       
- ---------------------------------
Looking for last minute shopping deals?  Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

------------------------------

End of JMDL Digest V2007 #510
*****************************

-------
Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org
Unsubscribe by clicking here:
mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe
-------