From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #509 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, December 24 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 509 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JoniQuiz Pt 5: Turbulent Indigo [Eric Taylor ] Dreamland, the album [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Hissing Quiz [Jahida Jorganes ] Lurk no more, njc [Martha Winkel ] ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Hissing Quiz, Thx 2 Jahida [Rian Afriadi ] Re: Dreamland, the album [Bob Muller ] Re: Lurk no more, njc [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Lurk no more, njc [notaro@stpt.usf.edu] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #404 [StDoherty@aol.com] Christmas song request njc [Garret ] Re: Lurk no more, njc [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Christmas song request njc ["Cassy" ] Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Lurk no more, njc ["Mark Scott" ] Re: Christmas song request njc [Garret ] Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] George Bush Sings Lennon's 'Happy Christmas' njc ["Randy Remote" ] Re: George Bush Sings Lennon's 'Happy Christmas' njc ["Mark Scott" ] A friend's group, njc [Laura Stanley ] Re: Lurk no more, njc [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Turbulent Indigo Christmas [Jeannie ] Re: Lurk no more, njc ["Lori Fye" ] Re: Turbulent Indigo Christmas (NJC) ["Lori Fye" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 03:33:35 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Eric Taylor Subject: Re: JoniQuiz Pt 5: Turbulent Indigo Okay I'll bite again! >>Arrange these (first mentioned to last mentioned) (1) Hostile sun beatin down (2) Jackoffs at the office (3) Tragedies in the nurseries (4) The ulcerated ozone<< 1, 4, 2, 3. >>2. How do you stop a runaway train? / How do you stop a ... rain?<< c. driving >>3. You wanna make Van Goghs, raise 'em up like ...<< b. sheep >>4. Brash fields, crude crows / In a scary sky. True or False : Joni talked about Van Gogh's painting titled A Wheatfield With Cypresses.<< It sounds familiar so I vote true. >>5. Jesus was mentioned twice on the album. Once on the song The Magdalene Laundries, and once on the song ...<< b. Turbulent Indigo >>6. True or False : Turbulent Indigo won Best Pop Album at the Grammy but lost the Album of The Year category to Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill.<< Sadly I think that this is true. Although Joni also got a Grammy for best cover art. I just loved that she beat out Madonna!!!!!!!!! >>7. Arrange these! (Last chance lost ...) (1) The shrew will not be tamed (2) The hero cannot make the change (3) They bicker on the rifle range<< 2,3,1 ??????? >>8. How old was the baby when he said 'Daddy, let's get some girls...' a. three b. four c. five d. six<< b. four (i'm sooo tempted to cheat with this one but i won't). <<9. .......... 'Sentenced into dreamless drudgery a. Woe-begotten daughters b. Prostitutes and destitutes c. Peg O'Connel d. Fallen women e. Patti Parlette<< a. we woe-begotten daughters. How could anyone forget this profound line??? >>10. Which line is Borderline's last line? a. Borderlines b. Will draw a borderline c. Just a borderline d. Another borderline<< Which version??? Okay I vote d. >>11. Which sentence is Yvette's very first sentence? a. Do you have a cigarette? b. comment vous appelez-vous? c. Please have this d. Avez-vous un allumette? e. Voulez-vous coucher avec-moi ce soir? f. O lalalala bebe. C'est dur dur d'etre bebe.<< Oh Jesus I'm not good at French! But I think it's d. >>12. What is the genre/style of the front cover painting? a. Post-Impressionism b. Expressionism c. Art nouveau d. Fauvism e. Hedonism<< Definately Post-Impressionism! >>13. Who played the percussion part on the song Sex Kills? a. Joni Mitchell b. Jim Keltner c. Carlos Vega d. Don Alias<< I believe that was Joni and Larry drumming away. >>14. What was the weapon used by the main character of the song Sunny Sunday? a. gun b. Iraq's weapon of mass destruction (O! Now we know why Mr. Bush couldn't find it!) c. pistol d. riffle<< Come on, this is too easy!!! C. >>15. Who is the guest vocalist on the song How Do You Stop? a. Charlie Midnight b. Dan Hartman c. Seal<< C. Seal. Gee I sure hope I pass this latest Joni test! If not I'm afraid I'm going straight to hell in a bucket of my own making. This is a lot of fun, Rian. Thank U for such a fun challenge! ET NP: STB (T'log) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 04:12:23 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Dreamland, the album Ah, actually i was going to send you the answer of TI&THOSL Quiz. But i forgot to bring my FD. Anyway, is Dreamland (the album) = The Best of Joni Mitchell?? Dancing Clown is on the tracklist. Rian NP. Beatles - Drive My Car - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:46:20 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue 7. Which CSN&Y member made a contribution on this album? a. Neil Young b. Graham Nash c. David Crosby d. Stephen Stills e. Bob Muller E! Everybody knows that Bob was the brains of that band. So tell me Bob....what was it like playing on Joni's album? - -Monika "We all come and go unknown..." - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 06:54:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jahida Jorganes Subject: Re: Hissing Quiz Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 03:36:23 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: JoniQuiz Pt. 6 : the Hissing of Summer Lawns Grand prize for those who score 100%: Chippendale where nobody sits in 1. "The Jungle Line" borrows a field recording from Africa of the Warrior Drums of ....., onto which Joni dubs guitar, synthesizer and her vocal line. d. Burundi 2. How many black men are there on the cover of the album? b. 5 3. Which guest artist did not yell Do you want to dance? on In France They Kiss On Main Street? c. Graham Nash (pure guess) 4. A diamond dog / Carrying a ...... and a cane c. cup 5. Arrange this famous line: guesses/based/on/what/is/set/of/time/and/change/is/touching change / on / based / set / touching / each / and / is / guesses / what / of / time 6. Edith in his bed / A ... in the rain is humming / The wires in the walls are humming d. plane (My favorite Joni song!) 7. Which one is the song that talks about a woman who is being treated as part of her husband's portfolio? b. Harrys House / Centerpiece 8. What is boho? a. somebody who does not live according to the conventions of society c. bohemian 9. Arrange this! (track order) (2) Harry's House/Centerpiece (4) Shades of Scarlet Conquering (5) The Boho Dance (3) The Hissing of Summer Lawn (1) Don't Interrupt The Sorrow 10. Arrange this! (4) Through savage progress cuts the jungle line (1) Through huts through Harlem through jails and gospel pews (3) Through Europe and the deep deep heart of Dixie blue (2) Through the class on Park and the trash on Vine 11. Who is Rousseau? (mentioned on The Jungle Line) b. An artist also known as Le Douanier. c. A forerunner of impressionism, recognized for his masterpiece Outskirt of The Forest of Fountainebleau. 12. Which sentence is IFTKOMS's last line? a. And we were rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling b. We were rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling c. And we'd be rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling d. Rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling e. Yeah! 13. Watching those high fashion girls / Skinny black models with ... curls b. raven 14. Jesus was mentioned once. On which song? (e). none of the above. It was in IFTKOMS 15. True or False : Shadows and Light is Joni's first guitar and piano-free song. False 16. True or False : Rolling Stone Magazine declared the album The Worst Album Title of The Year. True Bonus Question. Beware! This is the most difficult one. Which JMDL member uses a phrase from the album as her email address? a. Laura Stanley I hope I did better on this one! And here I thought I knew some Joni stuff...I know absolute shit! - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:43:59 -0500 From: Martha Winkel Subject: Lurk no more, njc Hello all, I have been reading the JMDL for a few weeks now and I need to come out from behind the screen to say how great it is to read most everything from JM content to the advice on buying tires, thoughts about world situations and opinions(which come from all over the world), to how to pick a music player for your mother and lately these great quizzes from Rian. I am a small town librarian in CT and also an assistant theatre director in a high school and try to instill Joni where I might in those endeavors. I play "Chelsea Morning" for the little ones, following along with the wonderfully illustrated book by Brian Froud. With the H.S. kids I play her backstage and when I get a chance to do music for before and after the plays I always slip in "something Joni". (Most recently "Good Friends".) Being a librarian,(and I think there are a few on this list), it would be fun too to have NR(now reading). Joni reads a lot too. And wondering if anyone out there appreciates Todd Rundgren. Saw him in concert last weekend and he blew the cobwebs away. Peace, Martha NR- High Tide in Tuscon, Barbara Kinsolver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:18:03 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL ANSWER Turbulent Quiz Warning : i wrote this using Ms Word, and then paste it. So, you cant find apostrophes. 1. (2) (3) (4) (1) 2. c. driving 3. b. sheep 4. False. The painting is called Crows In Wheatfield. This painting is Van Goghs last painting, he painted it just before his suicide. For those who havent seen it, please give the masterpiece a look. What a tortured artist Van Gogh was! <> <> 5. b. Turbulent Indigo No mercy Sweet Jesus! / No mercy from Turbulent Indigo 6. F. TI was not even nominated on Album of The Year Category. Only best pop album and best packaging. 7. (2) (1) (3) 8. a. three I heard your baby say / When he was only three / "Daddy let's get some girls / One for you and one for me". I wonder if Hugh Heffners son asked the same question... 9. e. Patti Parlette. No! Kidding. The right one is d. Fallen women (Hi Patti, howre you?) 10. d. Another borderline (a little bit difficult eh?) 11. d. Avez-vous un allumette? The answer f. is from a song made popular by a baby singer from France, Jordy, back in 1992 (do you remember him?). I wonder where he is right now... 12. a. Post-Impressionism 13. our hero, a. Joni Mitchell 14. c. pistol Then she points a pistol through the door 15. c. Seal ANSWER The Hissing Quiz 1. d. Burundi 2. b. 5 people <<< gossip says that the green house on the right was Jonis house. Is that true?>>> 3. a. John Guerin John Guerin was the drummer on all tracks except The Jungle Line and Sweet Bird 4. c. cup 5. Guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching 6. d. plane 7. c. The Hissing of Summer Lawn 8. boho is c. bohemian And bohemian is a. somebody who does not live according to the conventions of society <<>> <> 9. (5) (2) (4) (3) (1) 10. (2) (4) (3) (1) 11. b. An artist also known as Le Douanier. (his real name is Henri Rousseau) (Have you seen his paintings called The Snake Charmer and oh, whats the name, i forgot? The Hunter) a. is Jean Jacques Rousseau c. is Theodore Rousseau d. is Robinson Cruso e. is Madame Tussaud, and f. is Greta Garbo (too many Rousseaus, too little land) (Patti, is your fullname Patti Parlette Rousseau?) 12. d. Rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling Lyric section of jonimitchell.com suggests it was c. <>. But, check the song yourself. 13. b. raven Mark-Scott told me that it was actually raveen hair. 14. b. The Boho Dance Jesus was a beggar, he was rich in grace 15. False! Remember The Fiddle and The Drum? 16. True. But most people mistakenly thought that RS declared the album the worst album of the year. Anyway, i still cant understand why so many people hated the album. Bonus Question. d. Catherine McKay, Laura Stanley uses , but i guess sweetbirdur is not a phrase. It is a sentence. Rian Who uses PS. Actually i still have tons of quiz stocks, but i think im gonna save them for now (naysayers : Hurrah! Finally he stop it) and post them some time soon (O No! Not again!!!). :-D. I have a feeling youll be busy this Xmas time and wont have time doing this quiz. So, save it for after Xmas. Anyway, it is almost Dec 25th, Merry Christmas for those who celebrate it. For those who dont (like me), well, just go celebrate no day special. PS: Anyway, who won those Chippendales??? PS: Mark-Scott roxx again! His scored 87% on both quizzes!! You got higher scores? Dont be shy telling us. PS: Another thing that i like from this quiz: there are few lurkers (whom i never read their names on the list) sent their answers. Hi to you all! - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:30:19 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: Re: Hissing Quiz, Thx 2 Jahida Jahida wrote : 14. Jesus was mentioned once. On which song? >>>(e). none of the above. It was in IFTKOMS +++ Oh yeah! I forgot that Jesus was also mentioned on IFTKOMS! Conclusion : On THOSL, Jesus was mentioned twice, once on IFTKOMS and once on The Boho Dance. Thanks Jahida!!! Rian NP. IFTKOMS PS. Jahida also wrote : <<> (referring to Edith and Kingpin) ++ Well Jahida, you've got a good taste. How do i know? I love that song too. :-) - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:10:10 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Dreamland, the album So, you answered your own question there, Rian. Having Dancing Clown on the tracklist is akin to placing a turd in the punchbowl...no matter how good the rest of the mix is, it becomes instantly tainted with a foul stench. DC notwithstanding, Dreamland is a pretty good compilation, albeit one with no purpose. I would think that most Joni fans would consider "Hits" as the generic "Best of Joni Mitchell", that is if you define *best* as *most popular*. Joni, by her own admission and backed up by much evidence, was never a hitmaker on her own - it was not her career path. As for royalty pennies, now that's another story - she's achieved more in that category than most artists can even dream of. I would also imagine that most of us, in compiling a "Best Of Joni Mitchell", would steer very clear of the more familiar songs in favor of those that affect us on a more personal and powerful level. If you ask me, I think Dreamland was a subversive way to get some eartime for some of Joni's songs (the aforementioned turd, the inferior orchestral versions of Amelia & For The Roses, Nothing Can Be Done) by including them in with titles that people were familiar with (Free Man In Paris, Carey, BYT, etc). Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "When It Sings" - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:18:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Lurk no more, njc That's the spirit, Martha - thanks for the great introduction and welcome to the noisemakers. Hmmm, must be something in that CT water that causes that kind of behavior... There are lots of folks here who love to discuss what they're reading, and a book swap has become a part of our annual Jonifests up at the Full Moon. I love a good book, but mostly read magazines and the Web. As for Todd, there are definitely fans here; besides myself (Liars is probably still my favorite album of the 21st century, I recently dug it out and binged on it awhile). Kenny B and Patrick are also kindred Todd spirits. Thanks again for stepping out of the shadows into the light - looking forward to hearing lots more from you. Bob NP: Joni, "Day After Day" - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 08:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Quiz Pt.3 : Blue NJC Lots of drugs, man...I don't remember nothin'. I just hate that that SOB Stills claimed all of my killer solos as his. Bob NP: Elvis Costello & Allen Toussaint, "Ascension Day" - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:53:02 -0500 (EST) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: Re: Lurk no more, njc Yippee!!!!! Another librarian! AND a theatre lover. Jerry > Hello all, > I have been reading the JMDL for a few weeks now and I need to come > out from behind the screen to say how great it is to read most > everything from JM content to the advice on buying tires, thoughts > about world situations and opinions(which come from all over the > world), to how to pick a music player for your mother and lately > these great quizzes from Rian. > > I am a small town librarian in CT and also an assistant theatre > director in a high school and try to instill Joni where I might in > those endeavors. > I play "Chelsea Morning" for the little ones, following along with > the wonderfully illustrated book by Brian Froud. > With the H.S. kids I play her backstage and when I get a chance to do > music for before and after the plays I always slip in "something > Joni". (Most recently "Good Friends".) > > Being a librarian,(and I think there are a few on this list), it > would be fun too to have NR(now reading). Joni reads a lot too. > > And wondering if anyone out there appreciates Todd Rundgren. Saw him > in concert last weekend and he blew the cobwebs away. > > Peace, > Martha > NR- High Tide in Tuscon, Barbara Kinsolver ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:04:37 EST From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #404 Anyone know how I can get a copy of the Turner tribute to Joni? **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:01:30 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Christmas song request njc Hi guys, In bringing in the christmas spirit I will be having some mulled wine, hot port and christmas songs with friends and was wondering if anyone could help me out with mp3s of Hark the Herald Angels Sing and Angels We Have Heard On High. I don't really mind who is singing. I have most other songs that i like but these two have been requested and i cannot locate them on my admittedly poor selection of christmas cds. Can anyone help? thanks GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:59:09 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Lurk no more, njc Hello there Martha. Good of you to join in! I'm not a librarian but my sister is currently attending school for library sciences to become one. She's a very, very heavy reader. I myself have periods of where I read a load of books in just a couple of months and then read absolutely nothing for a couple of months. I read mainly nonfiction though--anything by Carl Jung, Ralph Waldo Emerson, or Friedrich Nietzsche I will surely pick up. I also enjoy reading anything about Psychology, Astrology, music, some Philosophy, and the Holocaust as far as nonfiction goes. When I make a detour and head for fiction I'll pick up something that catches my interest or if someone (with a respectable opinion!) recommends something. I've read a couple of books after reading that Joni read them. She's respectable enough, don't you think? I'd say my favorite fiction book is the Catcher In The Rye followed closely by 1984 and Jude the Obscure. I also enjoy Shakespeare and any poetry by Emily Dickinson. How about you? What do you like to read? -Monika NR: Nothing as I just finished a book about 10 minutes ago! Martha Winkel wrote: Hello all, I have been reading the JMDL for a few weeks now and I need to come out from behind the screen to say how great it is to read most everything from JM content to the advice on buying tires, thoughts about world situations and opinions(which come from all over the world), to how to pick a music player for your mother and lately these great quizzes from Rian. I am a small town librarian in CT and also an assistant theatre director in a high school and try to instill Joni where I might in those endeavors. I play "Chelsea Morning" for the little ones, following along with the wonderfully illustrated book by Brian Froud. With the H.S. kids I play her backstage and when I get a chance to do music for before and after the plays I always slip in "something Joni". (Most recently "Good Friends".) Being a librarian,(and I think there are a few on this list), it would be fun too to have NR(now reading). Joni reads a lot too. And wondering if anyone out there appreciates Todd Rundgren. Saw him in concert last weekend and he blew the cobwebs away. Peace, Martha NR- High Tide in Tuscon, Barbara Kinsolver - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:16:47 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Christmas song request njc Am zipping a file now with a variety of versions of both songs, hope they'll suffice. Will put on Yousendit when done. Cassy If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garret" To: "JMDL" Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Christmas song request njc > Hi guys, > In bringing in the christmas spirit I will be having some mulled wine, > hot port and christmas songs with friends and was wondering if anyone > could help me out with mp3s of Hark the Herald Angels Sing and Angels > We Have Heard On High. I don't really mind who is singing. I have > most other songs that i like but these two have been requested and i > cannot locate them on my admittedly poor selection of christmas cds. > > Can anyone help? > thanks > GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:26:15 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rian Afriadi" To: "jonipeople" ; "eric" Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:18 AM Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL > 12. a. Post-Impressionism > Not meaning to quibble with Rian about this answer. I have really been enjoying the quizzes. But I'm curious as to how Van Gogh's painting style is correctly categorized. According to Wikipedia: Van Gogh is a pioneer of what came to be known as Expressionism. He had an enormous influence on 20th century art, especially on the Fauves and German Expressionists. And yet the very first sentence of the entry in Wikipedia says: Vincent Willem van Gogh (30 March 1853 - 29 July 1890) was a Dutch Post-Impressionist artist. So. Did Van Gogh begin as a Post-Impressionist painter and then progressively develope into an Expressionist? If so, how would you class the painting with the fur hat, overcoat and bandaged head that Joni parodied on the cover of Turbulent Indigo? Art experts? Is Debra Shea still out there lurking somewhere? Mark in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:35:53 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Christmas song request njc <<< Will put on Yousendit when done. >>> Here is the link to Yousendit for a zipfile I uploaded containing a variety of versions of Hark the herald angels sing and Angels we have heard on high. http://download.yousendit.com/D86B89274E406F1D Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:46:42 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Lurk no more, njc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" I'd say my favorite fiction book is the Catcher In The Rye followed closely by 1984 and Jude the Obscure. Hi Monika, I've read several of Thomas Hardy's books but haven't read 'Jude the Obscure'. I have seen the movie adaptation 'Jude' with Kate Winslett and if it's at all faithful to the book, this must be one of Hardy's darkest novels. I believe the furor that it caused in England when it was published caused Hardy to abandon writing novels and stick to poetry. What do you like about this particular book? I do have a copy of it but am kind of hesitant to read it as I've been trying to stick to things that are on the lighter side of late. Have you ever read anything by A. S. Byatt? There is a character named Jude Mason in her 'Babel Tower' which is part of a series of 4 books that starts with 'The Virgin in the Garden'. Jude Mason is not the character's real name. He has made the name up based on Hardy's Jude who was a stone-cutter (hence Jude + Mason). The character is an intelligent, well-read but extremely eccentric man who identifies with Hardy's Jude and likes the 'obscure' reference. Mark in Seattle NR: 'Whose Body' by Dorothy Sayers A good friend of mine has been talking about Dorothy Sayers and her Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries and trying to get me to read them for years. So far this one is delightful. Written in the 1920s and very witty and literate. I have also been struggling through P. N. Furbank's biography of E. M. Forster for several months now. I read some and put it down for awhile. Pick it up again, read some and then put it down again. Some day I am determined to finish it because I love Forster's writing. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:01:09 +0000 From: Garret Subject: Re: Christmas song request njc Hi guys, thanks for the songs! Lots to choose from there:-) Merry Christmas GARRET On Dec 23, 2007 7:16 PM, Cassy wrote: > Am zipping a file now with a variety of versions of both songs, hope they'll > suffice. > > Will put on Yousendit when done. > > Cassy > > > If Iraq's biggest export was broccoli, would we still be there ? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Garret" > To: "JMDL" > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:01 AM > Subject: Christmas song request njc > > > > Hi guys, > > In bringing in the christmas spirit I will be having some mulled wine, > > hot port and christmas songs with friends and was wondering if anyone > > could help me out with mp3s of Hark the Herald Angels Sing and Angels > > We Have Heard On High. I don't really mind who is singing. I have > > most other songs that i like but these two have been requested and i > > cannot locate them on my admittedly poor selection of christmas cds. > > > > Can anyone help? > > thanks > > GARRET ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:01:20 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL Well, he came directly after what the critics called 'Impressionism' but was more than merely just 'after impressionism' as that doesn't really cover what Van Gogh did to the art world... It was his expressionistic use of colour and brushstrokes which gave his work a the expressionism that we understand it to be. But contemporary critics wouldn't have been able to call Van Gogh an 'Epressionist' as they hadn't coined the term in that way, that term (for artists, I believe) came much later. So technically, he's a Post Impressionist.... So perhaps Joni's parody is Expressionistic but she's parodying a Post Impressionist! lol Much Joni Jamie Zoob On 23/12/2007, Mark Scott wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rian Afriadi" > To: "jonipeople" ; "eric" > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:18 AM > Subject: ANSWER. JoniQuiz Pt. 5&6: TI & THOSL > > > > 12. a. Post-Impressionism > > > > Not meaning to quibble with Rian about this answer. I have really > been enjoying the quizzes. > > But I'm curious as to how Van Gogh's painting style is correctly > categorized. According to Wikipedia: > > Van Gogh is a pioneer of what came to be known as Expressionism. He > had an enormous influence on 20th century art, especially on the > Fauves and German Expressionists. > > > And yet the very first sentence of the entry in Wikipedia says: > > Vincent Willem van Gogh (30 March 1853 - 29 July 1890) was a Dutch > Post-Impressionist artist. > > > So. Did Van Gogh begin as a Post-Impressionist painter and then > progressively develope into an Expressionist? If so, how would you > class the painting with the fur hat, overcoat and bandaged head that > Joni parodied on the cover of Turbulent Indigo? Art experts? Is > Debra Shea still out there lurking somewhere? > > Mark in Seattle > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:12:33 -0800 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Christmas song request njc From: "Garret" <<< thanks for the songs! Lots to choose from there:-) >>> Regarding holiday songs, here is a very cool version of "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" recorded by Bare Naked Ladies and Sarah McClachlan. http://download.yousendit.com/E0A7630C1BEB4A08 Cassy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:46:47 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: George Bush Sings Lennon's 'Happy Christmas' njc Warning-not for the squeamish- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2TDN16UtTk And the original- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb2YSAVHmIE&feature=related ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:49:34 +0000 From: Michael Subject: SJC 10 best list Time to be thinking about changing that wall calendar and looking back on all the great moments of the past year. Here is my list of 10 cd's that brought me much pleasure. 1. Shine - of course. How lucky we were this yearto be treated, to not one, but two, Joniesque releases. And a Joni release is always cause for celebration. While her record was generally well received, it has failed to appear on many of the 10-best lists that I've seen so far. Whatever, it's certainly on mine. 2. And, Herbie Hancock - River : the Joni Letters, follows as a close second. What a treat this album is. Can't beat his collaborators either, ahem, except for Leonard's offering ! 3. Coral Egan - Magnify. Soulful songs with a heart and a groove from one of the bright lights of the Montreal music scene. 4. Feist - The Reminder. While not as ground-breaking as her previous release, Let it Die, this CD still ranks high above the masses of similar alt-pop efforts. Feist is glory bound for the Grammys this year, as this record appears on just about every top 10 list I've seen so far. 5. Patty Griffin - Children Run Through. The voice. That strong, crystal clear voice, that goes straight to the heart. A stunner. 6. Pascale Picard Band - Me Myself and Us. This upstart from Quebec City is riding a meteoric wave of critical and commercial success in this neck of the woods. Her tuneful Alanis-like debut record rocks great. 7. Koop - Islands. I love this group. The electro pop, nu-jazz duo from Sweden attracts great collaborators. Swing cabaret. This album has spun around many times in my player over the last year. 8. Claire Martin - He Never Mentioned Love. Britain's greatest jazz stylist pays hommage to the late, great, greater, greatest, Shirley Horn. Another show stopper. 9. Molly Johnson - If You Know Love. This Toronto powerhouse has a growly groove like no other. Always a satisfying listen. 10. Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings - 100 Days and 100 Nights. Move over, Amy Winehouse. Sharon Jones is the real thang, baby. A high five for this one. Happy holidays everyone. Again, it's been a pleasure being connected to you. All my best for the coming year. Michael in Quebec _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon! http://puzzles.sympatico.msn.ca/chicktionary/index.html?icid=htmlsig ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:18:10 -0800 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: George Bush Sings Lennon's 'Happy Christmas' njc The first one just kind of made me shake my head. I felt almost numb while watching it. The second one made me cry. I felt sad that such a voice had been silenced. But now as I write this I realize that John's voice will never be silenced. Some of us will carry it forward always. Thank you, Cory. Mark in Seattle - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Remote" To: "Joni" Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 10:46 AM Subject: George Bush Sings Lennon's 'Happy Christmas' njc > Warning-not for the squeamish- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2TDN16UtTk > > And the original- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb2YSAVHmIE&feature=related ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:07:44 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Court and Spark, njc Kate wrote: kate in 20 below saskatchewan blue sky though, shiny bright snow Hi Kate, Way cold man as I swat at a mosquito way down south in dixie. Seriously, a mosquito just flew by. Rudolf the red nose mosquito. Love, Laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:22:11 -0800 (PST) From: Laura Stanley Subject: A friend's group, njc Please, look at this website and rate Cantebury Crossroads favorably to help a friend of mine. She is the fifth from the right side of the photo, looking to the left: http://canterburycrossroads.org/ Thanks. Love, Laura ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:31:43 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Lurk no more, njc Hey there Mark. I won't lie to you here. The book is actually probably even darker than the film as there are a couple of things that happen in the book that don't happen in the film. Thanks for the info on Hardy though. I never knew this book caused such an uproar though I could understand why it could but I don't agree that literature should be frowned upon or banned in any way. I could particularly understand why people may have been upset over the scene with the children's end but like I said, it's literature. It's only fiction. There are far worse situations that happen in real life that we are exposed to. Fiction is a good escape or look into other worlds--a breath of fresh air for the mind if you will. Anyway, I like quite a few things about this book. I was exposed to the story because I had heard Kate Winslet was in the film and since I find Kate Winslet to be a very good actress, that did up my interest a bit. I first read the book and then watched the film. Did you know that the "the obscure" part was dropped from the film's title as to not turn off viewers who would maybe think the film itself would be obscure if it had the (Jude) "THE OBSCURE" bit in it? Strange logic, don't you think? First off, I like the character of Jude. He's a bit of a tragic figure really. He never gets the chance to really pursue his dreams. There's always that something in the way (real life!). There's always that obstacle which I think is very relatable. I also like the character of Sue (well I wouldn't be friends with her if she was a real person and certainly would have told Jude to dump her if he was real). I suppose I find her interesting in a Psychological way. Let's just say the girl has some issues to keep it short! I also find all of the characters to be very well written---actual three dimensional human beings with both good and bad aspects to their personality. I also like the interaction between the characters and I find Jude and Sue's relationship very interesting--once again the Psychology of it I suppose. In addition, I like the could-be real life story. It's not whimsical or completely make believe which is fine in stories but I find this departure to be refreshing. The themes of the class system, sexuality, marriage/relationships (faulty ones anyway), etc etc also interest me. I'll tell you this. Stay away from this book until you are ready for something very dark and depressing! It's not a feel good book by any means. I'm sure you know that as you mentioned seeing the film. But strangely....for some reason...I like the darkness of this book. I suppose "the dark side" fascinates me. As for A.S. Byatt, I have never read anything by him. That's really interesting about that character's name. I love when books (or music for that matter!) have references to other books (or music!). I'll have to check him and that series out. Thanks. Mark Scott wrote: - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monika Bogdanowicz" I'd say my favorite fiction book is the Catcher In The Rye followed closely by 1984 and Jude the Obscure. What do you like about this particular book? I do have a copy of it but am kind of hesitant to read it as I've been trying to stick to things that are on the lighter side of late. Have you ever read anything by A. S. Byatt? There is a character named Jude Mason in her 'Babel Tower' which is part of a series of 4 books that starts with 'The Virgin in the Garden'. Jude Mason is not the character's real name. He has made the name up based on Hardy's Jude who was a stone-cutter (hence Jude + Mason). The character is an intelligent, well-read but extremely eccentric man who identifies with Hardy's Jude and likes the 'obscure' reference. Mark in Seattle - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:20:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Turbulent Indigo Christmas I've thought of this place {the jmdl} often as I am going through one of the most strangest times and 'darkest nights of the soul' in my life. I give thanks with ALL that I am for the JMDL and each and everyone of you--y'all have no idea the gratitude I feel. I owe much to a dear friend of mine here in San Antonio, too, who has helped me keep my head above the raging river these past two days. I also owe a compassionate neighbor a great favor for a healing touch and prayer. The other night (Friday) I was resting and reading the JMDL in my bedroom at my mom's house with 4 of my dogs all around. I had a little fragrant candle burning. I thought, "Let me give my three cats their Fancy Feast and scratch their little heads before they retire." I looked at the Calgon candle and saw it was a very tiny flame, yet hesitated, but thought, "I'll be right back." I had to have been with the cats in the very next room for about three minutes when I heard a loud pop, then two more. I ran to the bedroom and saw a small fire. I grabbed the dog's water bowl and threw it on the flame. I grabbed the dogs, screamed to my son, who came running to only see the flame grow into a bigger flame. I ran to my mother and her beloved poodle and got them out. She was going on really slow until I shouted, "GET OUT NOW--the fire's growing really quick." She wanted to call the fire department from the land line until she saw the smoke traveling from my room to her room and we are separated by a large space, so by then realized it was trouble. One of my dogs got separated and the smoke was becoming unbearable for me to try to look for her any longer. My son and I tried to put the flame out through my window with the backyard hose only to realize the gardener told us he had run over it, shredding it with his lawn mower. We were is dismay. He ran to the front yard and brought that heavy duty bulky hose with it's heavy carrier to the back faucet only to not find the disconnect somewhere in that twirled up hose holder. He was frantic as the dogs were. He screamed for me to put the dogs in the kennel before we lost another one. The fire fighters finally got there. My mattress caught full flame by then. I knew we were all alive, so nothing else mattered. Only my red-bone coon hound could not be found. I kept running through every space I could, trying to call her name but the smoke was so thick me and the firefighters assured me they were looking for her all over the house but couldn't find her. I was heartbroken. Finally, the firemen got the fire under control after what seemed a lifetime. They were some of the most caring, compassionate and courageous men I have ever come across. From now on, I will volunteer my time for the firefighters in every cause they come across. Luckily only part of my room was totally destroyed but the insurance company said it's a total loss. My laptop is gone. I begged God to spare me my Betty, my hound dog. I had searched all over the neighborhood for her in my truck. My mom tried to calm me and told me she'd be back. I told my son, "Please Gibby, bring her home to me." As soon as he walked out she came in trembling with those big, sad beautiful hound dog eyes and I was sooo happy. The first thing I did was write you guys. Everything was fine until the next day that one of my greedy brothers wanted to take control of the whole insurance ordeal and blaming me, telling me I started the fire by leaving a cigarette lit and that I had to get rid of all of dogs and that I was not even entitled to a laptop even though the insurance company's content limit was given to my room. The fire investigator's report stated the fire was started by the candle. (I never leave a cigarette burning without me there and I shall never leave another candle on.) All hell broke loose here because of that and I took off to my place. I just now came back to visit my son and the two dogs I had to leave behind and come tell y'all that you're all so very special to me and I miss y'all and I wish you and yours the best holidays ever. Everything happens for a reason, especially around this special season. Hugs and kisses under the mistletoe to all. A special embrace to Bo, Rian, and Eric who seem to always bring tears of joy to my soul...and to Joni, I love you most of all, especially now during this dark night of the soul when you're always with me somehow through your artistic expressions which always let me know there's hope even in the most turbulent of times in all shades and hues of indigo and blue! Love, Jeannie PS: My poor desperate brother's just going a little nutty since his Bush boy blew his conservative financial future away. Now, he' sorry for his behavior because he wanted to keep the content money for himself by putting blame on me (Mother always lets him have his way because he's the "baby boy")--greed destroys all the love that could be. Please pray for him. PSII: DO NOT leave candles burning on without supervision not even for a lickety-split second---PLEASE!! PSIII: I'll soon be back with a new and better laptop and a new and better me! nj ' ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:30:27 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Lurk no more, njc Hi Martha, and welcome to the list! I'm a fan of Todd Rundgren, too, although I'm most familiar with him due to the album "Todd," which was played a great deal during my high school years. It's so cool, the way you're introducing Joni to the kids! Rock on! (I love the song "Good Friends," btw. What a great choice!) Lori Santa Rosa, CA NPIMH: "How about a little fanfare, fanfare?" NPOTV: The History Channel in HD, with a long documentary about Abe Lincoln's assassination ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:34:49 -0800 From: "Lori Fye" Subject: Re: Turbulent Indigo Christmas (NJC) Jeannie, Most of all, I'm glad you and your loved ones are okay. *Things* can be replaced. Take good care, Lori ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #509 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------