From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #501 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, December 16 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 501 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: ZoSo very good indeed....njc ["Music Is Special" ] Re: ZoSo very good indeed....njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: Slate Article: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever [Em ] Re: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever [Victor Johnson ] RE: Joni Joy to the World! And all the boys and girls... [Sherelle Smith] Andrew Marr Interview [William Waddell ] Some Joni YouTube action.... [Monika Bogdanowicz ] njc papista [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: Joni article and Belair Hotel and hope everyone is well [missblux@goo] Re: jamming on Joni [Victor Johnson ] Re: jamming on Joni [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni article and Belair Hotel and hope everyone is well [Victor Johns] Re: jamming on Joni now NJC [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: Andrew Marr Interview [Monika Bogdanowicz ] JM article in Slate ["Lindsay Moon" ] Re: Andrew Marr Interview ["Randy Remote" ] RE: Joni Joy to the World! And all the boys and girls... [Patti Parlette] Dan Fogelberg 1951-2007 (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Wake 'em, shake 'em, Joni & Melissa! [Patti Parlette ] Re: Dan Fogelberg NJC [Brian Gross ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:44:44 -0600 From: "Music Is Special" Subject: Re: ZoSo very good indeed....njc A fairly decent live audeince recording of the concert is circulating on several Bit-Torrent sites. Plant just announced he will tour with Allison Krause. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Paz" To: "Ross, Les" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: ZoSo very good indeed....njc > Far fucking out! Julian and I were talking about the show last night > when I got home. Wondering what they played etc. > I heard there were 20 million requests for tickets and our Les Ross > was in the lucky number. Right on! I assume Plant is > a little long in the tooth and can't cut the mustard as he use to. > There is no reason the sound engineer could not get him on top > of the mix unless that was the way they wanted to do it. Was > everything in the original keys? Last few times I have seen plant > he has not been able to hit all the old notes like in the day. Just > got the new Guitar World with a huge article on the band > as wsell as the new Rolling Stone. When can we expect copies of the > the audience recordings Les??? > Love living vicariously through you for a change. > > Love > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > On Dec 11, 2007, at 4:28 AM, Ross, Les wrote: > > Kicking off with a faltering grooved-up rendition of Copeland's > Fanfare for > the Common Man as made popular by that beat combo Emerson Lake and > Palmer, > this time played by the adept but remorselessly tune-free Keith Emerson, > Yes's Chris (who ate all the pies) Squire and Allan White among many > others, > the first thing coming as a major relief was that they'd got the hall > sound > absolutely perfect. > > Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings formed the main core of musicians > complemented by > an assortment of singers including Paul Rogers (Free) turning in a > 'nailed' > performance of All Right Now and something else i'd never heard before. > Maggie Bell belted out Aretha to great effect. Foreigner impreached us > to > sing along to I Want to Know What Love Is to general indifference from > those > immediately around me. There was, unsurprisingly, a sense of "get on > with > it" and "When does Zep come on..?." > > Paulo Nutini, whom i'd mistakenly lumped in with all the other poppy > doll* > (pop idol) effluent, turned a couple of tunes with a voice dripping with > whisky sour soaked in Scottish burr. He was brilliant. Of all the > worthies > of old being trotted out last night, he alone seemed totally in his > element. > > > Time to clear the stage. Audience: Light blue touch paper and retire > to safe > distance.....Dear god, here they come...... > > Long shoes... they're wearing looooong shoes....... > > I digress. Here's the set. > > > 'Good Times Bad Times' > > 'Ramble On' > > 'Black Dog' > > 'In My Time Of Dying' > > 'For Your Life' > > 'Trampled Under Foot' > > 'Nobody's Fault But Mine' > > 'No Quarter' > > 'Since I've Been Loving You' > > 'Dazed And Confused' > > 'Stairway To Heaven' > > 'The Song Remains The Same' > > 'Misty Mountain Hop' > > 'Kashmir' > > > > encore 1 > > 'Whole Lotta Love' > > > > encore 2 > > 'Rock And Roll' > > > > My heart stopped when the band started up. Lord it was a mighty sound > but > Plant's voice was lost. Clipping out under the weight of the band. And > what > a tight tight band. The weeks they've put into this really paid off. > There > was no waste anywhere. A couple of songs in though and the man on the > desk > had earned his groats. I'd have to defer to the likes of Paz who knows a > thing or several about stage sound but i'm guessing that Plant's is a > voice > not always easy to get through the wall of sound a band can produce. > But by > Black Dog, all those concerns were set aside. > > > > I can't imagine any fan could have been disappointed by the performances > last night. I can't say here that they dicked around with the > arrangements. > Nearly everything was played completely straight. Really, really well, > but > without much in the way of improvisation. Fair enough. > > > > Such solos as either Page or Jones got into failed to take flight (for > me) > and were kept on a short rein. My personal fave, from their songs on > record, > Dazed and Confused came in a little over 11 minutes. Last night it was > magical if not sublime. > > > > Since I've been Loving You caught fire though. Page and Plant outdid > themselves on that one and at the end of it, as i could see using > binoculars, all four of them were delighted with what they'd just > played. > From that point, the band were completely in the zone. Up to that > point, > they'd kinda occupied the same small area of the stage. Just in front > of the > drums. Like they were kinda taking comfort in their nearness to each > other. > After Loving You that all changed. > > > > EVERYONE sang along to Stairway. Natch. > > > > And it just got better and better. By the time they got to the closing > song > of the main set, Kashmir, they'd managed to get the Planets to align, > the > main Portals to the Multiverse to open in sequence and channel their > steadily surfacing voodoo into this one monumental song. One could not > hope > for a more complete and elemental performance of any song. It was > absolutely > brilliant. Brilliant beyond the capacity of the word brilliant to > communicate brilliance. > > > > And then they were off. > > > > "gasp" > > > > The place went daft. Again, natch. > > > > Encores were top fun. Whole Lot of Love was a hoot. A bit of demented > nonsense with the theramin. Rock and Roll had EVERYone singing along. > > > > And then they were off. All done. > > > > At worst they were excellent. At best, something else entirely. > > > > Long shoes though. Gotta take issue with them long shoes....... > > > > Les (london) > > > > > > *copyright Martin Giles, Excellent Turns of Phrase Inc. All Rights > Reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:38:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Slate Article: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever Great read, David. Thanks for forwarding it to us. And so glad 33 1/3 by Seattle musician Sean Nelson was mentioned. So often we hear only about the bad writing or the bad music. Jerry avid Marine wrote: > http://www.slate.com/id/2180012/nav/tap3/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:33:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: ZoSo very good indeed....njc Which is increasing speculation the LZ won't. Jerry Music Is Special wrote: > A fairly decent live audeince recording of the concert is circulating on > several Bit-Torrent sites. Plant just announced he will tour with Allison > Krause. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Paz" > To: "Ross, Les" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:00 AM > Subject: Re: ZoSo very good indeed....njc > > >> Far fucking out! Julian and I were talking about the show last night >> when I got home. Wondering what they played etc. >> I heard there were 20 million requests for tickets and our Les Ross >> was in the lucky number. Right on! I assume Plant is >> a little long in the tooth and can't cut the mustard as he use to. >> There is no reason the sound engineer could not get him on top >> of the mix unless that was the way they wanted to do it. Was >> everything in the original keys? Last few times I have seen plant >> he has not been able to hit all the old notes like in the day. Just >> got the new Guitar World with a huge article on the band >> as wsell as the new Rolling Stone. When can we expect copies of the >> the audience recordings Les??? >> Love living vicariously through you for a change. >> >> Love >> >> Paz >> >> Michael Paz >> michael@thepazgroup.com >> >> Tour Manager >> Preservation Hall Jazz Band >> http://www.preservationhall.com >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 11, 2007, at 4:28 AM, Ross, Les wrote: >> >> Kicking off with a faltering grooved-up rendition of Copeland's >> Fanfare for >> the Common Man as made popular by that beat combo Emerson Lake and >> Palmer, >> this time played by the adept but remorselessly tune-free Keith Emerson, >> Yes's Chris (who ate all the pies) Squire and Allan White among many >> others, >> the first thing coming as a major relief was that they'd got the hall >> sound >> absolutely perfect. >> >> Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings formed the main core of musicians >> complemented by >> an assortment of singers including Paul Rogers (Free) turning in a >> 'nailed' >> performance of All Right Now and something else i'd never heard before. >> Maggie Bell belted out Aretha to great effect. Foreigner impreached us >> to >> sing along to I Want to Know What Love Is to general indifference from >> those >> immediately around me. There was, unsurprisingly, a sense of "get on >> with >> it" and "When does Zep come on..?." >> >> Paulo Nutini, whom i'd mistakenly lumped in with all the other poppy >> doll* >> (pop idol) effluent, turned a couple of tunes with a voice dripping with >> whisky sour soaked in Scottish burr. He was brilliant. Of all the >> worthies >> of old being trotted out last night, he alone seemed totally in his >> element. >> >> >> Time to clear the stage. Audience: Light blue touch paper and retire >> to safe >> distance.....Dear god, here they come...... >> >> Long shoes... they're wearing looooong shoes....... >> >> I digress. Here's the set. >> >> >> 'Good Times Bad Times' >> >> 'Ramble On' >> >> 'Black Dog' >> >> 'In My Time Of Dying' >> >> 'For Your Life' >> >> 'Trampled Under Foot' >> >> 'Nobody's Fault But Mine' >> >> 'No Quarter' >> >> 'Since I've Been Loving You' >> >> 'Dazed And Confused' >> >> 'Stairway To Heaven' >> >> 'The Song Remains The Same' >> >> 'Misty Mountain Hop' >> >> 'Kashmir' >> >> >> >> encore 1 >> >> 'Whole Lotta Love' >> >> >> >> encore 2 >> >> 'Rock And Roll' >> >> >> >> My heart stopped when the band started up. Lord it was a mighty sound >> but >> Plant's voice was lost. Clipping out under the weight of the band. And >> what >> a tight tight band. The weeks they've put into this really paid off. >> There >> was no waste anywhere. A couple of songs in though and the man on the >> desk >> had earned his groats. I'd have to defer to the likes of Paz who knows a >> thing or several about stage sound but i'm guessing that Plant's is a >> voice >> not always easy to get through the wall of sound a band can produce. >> But by >> Black Dog, all those concerns were set aside. >> >> >> >> I can't imagine any fan could have been disappointed by the performances >> last night. I can't say here that they dicked around with the >> arrangements. >> Nearly everything was played completely straight. Really, really well, >> but >> without much in the way of improvisation. Fair enough. >> >> >> >> Such solos as either Page or Jones got into failed to take flight (for >> me) >> and were kept on a short rein. My personal fave, from their songs on >> record, >> Dazed and Confused came in a little over 11 minutes. Last night it was >> magical if not sublime. >> >> >> >> Since I've been Loving You caught fire though. Page and Plant outdid >> themselves on that one and at the end of it, as i could see using >> binoculars, all four of them were delighted with what they'd just >> played. >> From that point, the band were completely in the zone. Up to that >> point, >> they'd kinda occupied the same small area of the stage. Just in front >> of the >> drums. Like they were kinda taking comfort in their nearness to each >> other. >> After Loving You that all changed. >> >> >> >> EVERYONE sang along to Stairway. Natch. >> >> >> >> And it just got better and better. By the time they got to the closing >> song >> of the main set, Kashmir, they'd managed to get the Planets to align, >> the >> main Portals to the Multiverse to open in sequence and channel their >> steadily surfacing voodoo into this one monumental song. One could not >> hope >> for a more complete and elemental performance of any song. It was >> absolutely >> brilliant. Brilliant beyond the capacity of the word brilliant to >> communicate brilliance. >> >> >> >> And then they were off. >> >> >> >> "gasp" >> >> >> >> The place went daft. Again, natch. >> >> >> >> Encores were top fun. Whole Lot of Love was a hoot. A bit of demented >> nonsense with the theramin. Rock and Roll had EVERYone singing along. >> >> >> >> And then they were off. All done. >> >> >> >> At worst they were excellent. At best, something else entirely. >> >> >> >> Long shoes though. Gotta take issue with them long shoes....... >> >> >> >> Les (london) >> >> >> >> >> >> *copyright Martin Giles, Excellent Turns of Phrase Inc. All Rights >> Reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:12:35 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: ZoSo very good indeed....njc Heard a rumour the other day they would be playing at Bonaroo next year though I don't know of the validity of that. If they did have a mind to tour, its seems like it would matter little whether it was this year or the next. Conceivably, Plant could tour w/Allison and then reconvene with Zeppelin later. I mean, if its gonna happen then no need to rush things. Just for kicks, a friend and I are going to Van Halen in February. Key words being just for kicks.... I am much more excited that Yes is slated to embark on a 40th anniversary tour in 2008! Now if Joni would throw together a little group and play two nights at the Fox that would be just over the top. Victor NP: Shine "If I Had a Heart" On Dec 16, 2007, at 7:33 AM, Jerry Notaro wrote: > Which is increasing speculation the LZ won't. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 06:44:06 -0800 (PST) From: Em Subject: Re: Slate Article: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever yes, really great article. I can't agree with his assement of C&S tho. But I see what he is saying. I feel like the writer is someone I'd like to sit down with and let him pick the music. :) But only if we *don't* have to listen to his current "binge song" over and over, lol..unless of course I were currently wanting that binge too. Funny, I have also binged on ELH's "Boulder to Birmingham" and have done so during various phases of my life, first when I was ony like 19. Any other's of you "binge" listeners, too? My greatest Joni binges have for what ever reson been the song "Blue" and the song "TI". And others too, but to a lesser extent. Not sure why those two relatively LITTLE songs grabbed me like that. My most recent "binge" song is "Bite the Bullet" from Neil Young's "American Starsn Bars". I had forgotten what a F-U-N album that is!!!!! haha! Rowdy rock n roll for the pure pleasure of it. I've played it probably 20 times in the last couple of days. That CD lives in the CD player in my car at the moment, and I am guilty of putting it back on, over and over. But also in the house on my iTunes. Also have recently binged on a couple of cuts on Richard Shindell's sort of latest "South of Delia". ( I say "sort of" because he;s just released a live CD from a gig I think in Vermont) His version of BD's "Senor" is sticking to me like gum from the hot street to a sneaker. I'd never penetrated the BD version (or it never penetrated me). But sheesh, Shindell's version, I can nearly "smell the tail of the dragon" myself and when he says "stripped and kneeled" I can almost feel grit and pebbles digging into my knees. Anyway, this has veered into NJC territory..... happy Sunday, and good luck to all your various football teams today, if you're into football. Em < wrote: > Great read, David. Thanks for forwarding it to us. And so glad 33 1/3 > by > Seattle musician Sean Nelson was mentioned. So often we hear only > about > the bad writing or the bad music. > > Jerry > > avid Marine wrote: > > http://www.slate.com/id/2180012/nav/tap3/ > - - - - - - - Emzdogz - a little of the social; a little of the solo. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:47:54 EST From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Re:The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:18:27 -0800 > From: David Marine > Subject: Slate Article: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever > Regarding Ron Rosenbaum's "best Joni Mitchell Song Ever", at http://www.slate.com/id/2180012/nav/tap3/ I can only say: he's welcome to his own opinion, just like everyone else. It's a well-written article but, as far as I'm concerned, "Amelia" is a good song... not my favorite though; I've always felt it was a bit too long and monotonous. Ron also doesn't think the Court & Spark album is Joni's best... I do. Anyway, happy holidays to everyone and a healthy New Year to all, Kenny B ************************************** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:10:22 -0500 (EST) From: notaro@stpt.usf.edu Subject: CBS Sunday Morning Music profile next week is James Taylor. They did a story on the Johnny Cash Show DVD release this morning calling it the best music television show ever, but no Joni clips. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:18:38 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: RE: Joni Joy to the World! And all the boys and girls... Tres Magnifuque! So happy that you got this wonderful response from your friend! Better late than never I say! Michael McDonald (who is another favorite artist of mine) has a place on his forum where you can talk about "other" subjects and I have gotten everyone trained to know that I am a Joni Amigo! It's so sweet because one of the posters wasn't sure if I knew about "Shine" so she posted about it! Good looking out! The six degrees of separation between Michael McDonald and Joni Mitchell is that (I think) they shared the same label (Reprise) for a while, he sang back-up vocals on "Good Friends" and his wife Amy Holland (McDonald) sang back up vocals for Joni as well. If there are any trivia buffs out there, I would love to know exactly what, where, when and how Amy did this! Patti, love you and thank you for including me as I've had to become a lurker laterly with the JMDL. I appreciate it! Love, Sherelle Sherelle> From: loveuconn@hotmail.com> To: joni@smoe.org; sherellesmith@hotmail.com; treegreen1@hotmail.com> Subject: Joni Joy to the World! And all the boys and girls...> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:24:14 +0000> > > Woke up, it was a Chelsea Morning> and the first thing that I saw> was message about Joni.> > Yay!> > And it wasn't even from the list.> > Way back on November 3rd, all dizzy-dancing-way-you-feel about Joni's upcoming appearance on the CBS Sunday Morning Show the next day, I emailed a whole bunch of people. (You have to share the Joni joy, you know!) And now, six weeks later, I get a late reply from someone. (A seed that was planted.) The mother of a hockey player my son used to coach. Ha! I can't wait to share this w/ Michael from Mountains because he really respects this woman, and he will see that I'm not the only Joni fan in the world!> > Okay, here is my message (I can't believe I sent it to so many "non-Joni" people!), and the reply:> > ****> > Subject: Joni on TV Sunday morning at 9> a.m. EST> > Dear Friends Who Love Joni or Who Kindly Tolerate My Loving> Joni and Should Learn More About Her:> > She is going to be on the CBS> Sunday Morning Show which starts at 9 a.m. EST.> > Be there or be> square! ("You're so square. Baby, I don't care.")> > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/01/sunday/main3441230.shtml> > Peace,> > Patti> > "Shine on good humor,> Shine on goodwill."> > -- JM> > > Re: Joni on TV Sunday morning at 9 a.m. EST~> > > Hey Patti!> > So, I actually did remember, halfway through the segment, to check this> out! You are right, she is an amazing woman, and an icon for our> time. I am so thankful to have come of age in the 70's! I am> inspired to get some Joni CD's and give her a re-listen. I think Max will> be interested as well - he's very much into classic rock, so who knows - this> might intrigue him as well.> > I hope you are healthy and happy this holiday season! Give Mike a big> "HI!!" from all of us.> > ****> > A old fan is reborn, and a new one just begun. And so ! this is Christmas....> > Applause, applause!> > I just remembered something I think I forgot to share with y'all.> > When Michael graduated from college, I threw him a surprise party at a Barangrill. I invited his whole hockey team (Bantams, ages 12-13) and the parents because, in my heart and mind, they saved him from the war. I believe they saved his life, and my sanity. (He almost joined the military when he was a freshman because he didn't know what to major in, and then, THANK GOD!!!!!, he discovered, through coaching, that he has a gift for working with kids. Who says those hockey games are damned?).> > As party favors, I made up a little tribute page to Michael w/ 4 pictures and inspirational quotes and the heading/title was: "Be Like Mike!" and it included these:> 1. a picture of him at age 3 in his big brother's hockey uniform ("Dream big!")> 2. a picture of him w/ a huge smile and a wave getting on the school bus w/ his Batman lunch box for his first day of kindergarten ("Go to school!")> 3. a picture of him playing hockey in high school ("Work hard!")> 3. his senior class picture ("Smile!")> Congratulations, Michael!> May 7, 2006> > Then, on a separate, second page, on grey parchment paper, I printed the lyrics to Circle Game. I mean, you just HAD to, right? Darn right. This occasion begs for that song. I rolled these two pages up like a diploma and tied them with a ribbon.> > As people were opening them, I heard one kid say: "Circle Game? Huh? What is that?" The mother who just wrote to me said: "Oh my God! Joni Mitchell! I remember her. Oh, bring this home and read it. It is so beautiful. You will cry."> > Then my older son says: "MOM!!!!! You didn't do a JONI MITCHELL thing for Michael's *graduation*, did you?" Michael looked up suddenly and they both just stared and stared at me in utter disbelief. They shake their heads as if to say: "She'll never change!"> > I just laughed and toasted to Michael, right out loud (and inwardly, silently, to Joni).> > Okay, c'est tout pour le moment. Bon weekend!> ! > Love & Peace,> > Patti P.> > P.S. Quel synchronicite! Michael just called to invite me to his damn hockey game this morning. (He's coaching 5-6 year olds now, those little cuties.) I said: "I was JUST writing about you!" And he said: "Oh, no. Not to the Joni people, are you?"> > Yep!> > NPIMH:> > If I were the queen of the world> Tell you what I'd do> I'd throw away the cars and the bars and the war> Make sweet love to you> Sing it now...> > Joni Joy to the world> All the boys and girls> Joni Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea> Joni Joy to you and me> > > > > _________________________________________________________________> im is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference.> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect _________________________________________________________________ The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer on an Xbox 360 Console. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/wheretobuy/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:23:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Slate Article: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever "Amelia" does consistently rank way up there (and sometimes at #1) in the JMDL song polling. (It's currently at #3) So he's not exactly going out on a limb with his opinion. That song has been discussed in this forum many many times in this forum and rightfully so. Like the rest of you, I don't think his C&S comments are justified - anyone who refers to it as "muzak" just ain't paying attention imo. Part of the genius of C&S is the emotional and literal punch of the lyrics covered with the jazzy glaze of the musicians involved, the arrangements and the engineering. Hejira, on the other hand, does a better job of drawing attention to the words by setting them in a much starker and darker canvas. Both are works of pure perfection. As for song binging, I've never been one to do that much, although yesterday I was running and Prince's "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man" came on the ipod - I replayed it three times and probably shaved 2 minutes of my time. Coincidentally, my binge song for 2007 is also by Prince - "Guitar". Way back in olden days, my roommate (who is still one my best friends) would binge on the craziest songs...I remember once he played JT''s "Machine Gun Kelly" about 12 times before I told him that if he touched that tonearm one more time I'd gnaw his hand off at the wrist. Bob NP: Fountains of Wayne, "Stacy's Mom" - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re:The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever Yes, this was definitely an interesting article. Amelia isn't my favorite song (nor is it a binge song). It isn't even my favorite form Hejira but it really is a fantastic song. I had Hejira on in my car the other day and I was just soaking up everything--the words, the music, the feel. Amelia, in particular, does have a great feel to it--a sort of "lonely but I'm ok" feel to it. I have no other way to describe it. I suppose I don't have a binge song from Hejira. Generally, when I put that album on I listen to it in its entirety. It begs you too! If I'm low on time but need a Hejira fix, I play my favorites--Coyote, Hejira, and Black Crow. I also don't agree with his assessment of Court & Spark but what can you do? That album is near and dear to my heart as it was the first Joni album I ever heard. It's brilliant in my opinion. -Monika PassScribe@aol.com wrote: > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:18:27 -0800 > From: David Marine > Subject: Slate Article: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever > Regarding Ron Rosenbaum's "best Joni Mitchell Song Ever", at http://www.slate.com/id/2180012/nav/tap3/ I can only say: he's welcome to his own opinion, just like everyone else. It's a well-written article but, as far as I'm concerned, "Amelia" is a good song... not my favorite though; I've always felt it was a bit too long and monotonous. Ron also doesn't think the Court & Spark album is Joni's best... I do. 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Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:38:24 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: jamming on Joni I went to a party last night with some friends and ended up jamming with a bunch of folk...which typically happens at these parties. Being around Christmas and all, I thought I'd pull out "River" and so I started playing and this incredible fiddle player joined in and it was just sublime...I wish I could still just savor the moment but I guess that's just the beauty of music, it just happens without warning. I started talking with someone who had perked up and said she was a big Joni Mitchell fan so I told her about the JMDL and was requested to play some more so we did Free Man in Paris, Amelia, and A Case of You. I wish Paz had been there as there was a request for You Turn Me On...I'll always remember hearing him play that for the first time at the late night restaurant in New Orleans in 2000. We also played a crazy version of the "The Weight" where we kept interspersing various Van Morrison songs in between every verse...wasn't planned at all, just kind of happened. Also really sweet versions of "Eyes of the World" and "Box of Rain". After spending so much time in music school its refreshing to just jam on rocknroll with a bunch of incredible musicians. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:44:56 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: The Best Joni Mitchell Song Ever On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:28 AM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Yes, this was definitely an interesting article. Amelia isn't my > favorite song (nor is it a binge song). It isn't even my favorite > form Hejira but it really is a fantastic song. I had Hejira on in > my car the other day and I was just soaking up everything--the > words, the music, the feel. Amelia, in particular, does have a > great feel to it--a sort of "lonely but I'm ok" feel to it. I have > no other way to describe it. I suppose I don't have a binge song > from Hejira. Generally, when I put that album on I listen to it in > its entirety. It begs you too! If I'm low on time but need a > Hejira fix, I play my favorites--Coyote, Hejira, and Black Crow. Although Amelia is my favorite song, I don't particularly agree with his assessment of Joni. He doesn't even mention the title track to Hejira which I think is an amazing song as well. Whether you like Amelia, C&S, Shine or whatever, I don't get it when people overly diss other works by Joni, just to make a particular work seem that much better. It's all good. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:46:40 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: jamming on Joni Victor, you always seem like you have a good time attending and playing at these events that you post about! You're always livin' it up. Good for you! Man, I bet that was wonderful, jamming like that and on those songs! -Monika Victor Johnson wrote: I went to a party last night with some friends and ended up jamming with a bunch of folk...which typically happens at these parties. Being around Christmas and all, I thought I'd pull out "River" and so I started playing and this incredible fiddle player joined in and it was just sublime...I wish I could still just savor the moment but I guess that's just the beauty of music, it just happens without warning. I started talking with someone who had perked up and said she was a big Joni Mitchell fan so I told her about the JMDL and was requested to play some more so we did Free Man in Paris, Amelia, and A Case of You. I wish Paz had been there as there was a request for You Turn Me On...I'll always remember hearing him play that for the first time at the late night restaurant in New Orleans in 2000. We also played a crazy version of the "The Weight" where we kept interspersing various Van Morrison songs in between every verse...wasn't planned at all, just kind of happened. Also really sweet versions of "Eyes of the World" and "Box of Rain". After spending so much time in music school its refreshing to just jam on rocknroll with a bunch of incredible musicians. Victor - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:44:50 +0000 From: Sherelle Smith Subject: RE: Joni Joy to the World! And all the boys and girls... Ha! Ha! Ooopsie!!! Ha! Ha! Should have been, "Tres Magnifique!!" Leave it to me to give you a laugh in the AM!!! Thanks for the info Bob! Sherelle Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:31:49 -0800From: scjoniguy@yahoo.comSubject: RE: Joni Joy to the World! And all the boys and girls...To: sherellesmith@hotmail.com; loveuconn@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org; treegreen1@hotmail.com According to the album credits, Amy contributes backing vocals to "Tax Free". And thanks Sherelle for this new phrase: "Tres Magnifuque!" Is it pronounced like I THINK it is? Bob NP: Husker Du, "Never Talking To You Again" Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:47:23 +0000 From: William Waddell Subject: Andrew Marr Interview Was glad to see the Andrew Marr interview up on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntAJN70bU30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3T0dVNx5YI WtS _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 07:54:45 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Some Joni YouTube action.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6IDoxi9QsE (Woodstock from '69 or so) -Monika - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:04:49 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: njc papista Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:45:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: The Female Pope There may have been a woman who ran the Vatican, either in the mid-ninth century or eleventh century, holding her position without attracting suspicion until she lapsed into 'feminine weakness' and became pregnant and guess what her name would have been? ~Pope Joan~ Me: I only realized just now that this was only a legend. I thin I learned at school that he actually never became pope because she went ino labour during the initiation ceremony... or whatever it is called when they make you pope. But Wikipedia says it's all legend. Too bad! BN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:08:25 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Joni article and Belair Hotel and hope everyone is well On Dec 16, 2007 5:07 PM, wrote: Am waving back... but I thought I'd better email you as well as I'm not sure anyone can see over there...! I'll wave across the Atlantic too - if anyone got a strange feeling today, don't worry it was just me waving! BN > > On Dec 15, 2007 8:18 PM, Marion Leffler wrote: > .... > Waving to you across the Vresund, > > Marion ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:10:35 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: jamming on Joni On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Victor, you always seem like you have a good time attending and > playing at these events that you post about! You're always livin' > it up. Good for you! Man, I bet that was wonderful, jamming like > that and on those songs! > -Monika > Thanks Monika, I have some truly amazing friends here in Atlanta who just love to play music. It's funny, occasionally I'll go to a "normal" party where there is no music and people aren't really into music and it will seem really weird...if you mention something about breaking out a guitar they look at you kind of strange, but fortunately I don't go to many of those. But just like anywhere else in the world, some people get it and some people just don't. I'm thankful for all the gatherings and music that goes on here and at jonifests as well. If you come to Atlanta to visit your friend I'll definitely block out some time to get together and jam on some Joni. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:20:19 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: jamming on Joni I wish I could have been there as well as I always love a late night jam with VJ. We had our Christmas Party as Julian's first annual Birthday Jam. It was a great party as always with lots of music food and libation. Julian and I played a version of Wind Cries Mary as well as Under the Bridge and our friend Clint Maedgen sat in on vox. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Dec 16, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Victor Johnson wrote: I went to a party last night with some friends and ended up jamming with a bunch of folk...which typically happens at these parties. Being around Christmas and all, I thought I'd pull out "River" and so I started playing and this incredible fiddle player joined in and it was just sublime...I wish I could still just savor the moment but I guess that's just the beauty of music, it just happens without warning. I started talking with someone who had perked up and said she was a big Joni Mitchell fan so I told her about the JMDL and was requested to play some more so we did Free Man in Paris, Amelia, and A Case of You. I wish Paz had been there as there was a request for You Turn Me On...I'll always remember hearing him play that for the first time at the late night restaurant in New Orleans in 2000. We also played a crazy version of the "The Weight" where we kept interspersing various Van Morrison songs in between every verse...wasn't planned at all, just kind of happened. Also really sweet versions of "Eyes of the World" and "Box of Rain". After spending so much time in music school its refreshing to just jam on rocknroll with a bunch of incredible musicians. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:21:04 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Joni article and Belair Hotel and hope everyone is well Hi Bene, I'm glad you made it all the way back home. The Belair Hotel was so much fun. I wish there was one of them here or a portal we could step into and be there instantly, hang out for awhile, and then zap back home. The whole Joni tribute weekend seems so long ago even though its only been one month. Victor On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:08 AM, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: > On Dec 16, 2007 5:07 PM, wrote: > Am waving back... but I thought I'd better email you as well as I'm > not sure anyone can see over there...! > > I'll wave across the Atlantic too - if anyone got a strange feeling > today, don't worry it was just me waving! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:37:00 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: jamming on Joni now NJC My going to Atlanta all depends on my finances and if I can afford to go there while still attending Jonifest (and saving for my summer Canada trip). I will let you know though! If I do go it'll be in the spring or early summer. Jamming would be fun! -Monika......would love to jam on some Joni! Victor Johnson wrote: On Dec 16, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Victor, you always seem like you have a good time attending and > playing at these events that you post about! You're always livin' > it up. Good for you! Man, I bet that was wonderful, jamming like > that and on those songs! > -Monika > Thanks Monika, I have some truly amazing friends here in Atlanta who just love to play music. It's funny, occasionally I'll go to a "normal" party where there is no music and people aren't really into music and it will seem really weird...if you mention something about breaking out a guitar they look at you kind of strange, but fortunately I don't go to many of those. But just like anywhere else in the world, some people get it and some people just don't. I'm thankful for all the gatherings and music that goes on here and at jonifests as well. If you come to Atlanta to visit your friend I'll definitely block out some time to get together and jam on some Joni. Victor - --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:34:34 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Andrew Marr Interview Ooh, thank you for posting that! Much appreciated! -Monika William Waddell wrote: Was glad to see the Andrew Marr interview up on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntAJN70bU30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3T0dVNx5YI WtS _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:36:07 -0800 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: JM article in Slate A friend sent me this link to a beautiful article in Slate on Joni: http://www.slate.com/id/2180012/fr/flyout Sign him up to the List! Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:05:25 -0800 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Andrew Marr Interview Thanks WtS-that was great-even if it kind of dashed hopes for a tour-then again, she's great for changing her mind. She is so funny, though, sometimes...I'll just leave it at that. She looks good and happy, though a bit cartoonish in my player due to the picture being scrunched vertically. RR > Was glad to see the Andrew Marr interview up on Youtube. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntAJN70bU30 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3T0dVNx5YI > > WtS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:24:11 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: Joni Joy to the World! And all the boys and girls... And thanks Sherelle for this new phrase: "Tres Magnifuque!" Is it pronounced like I THINK it is? *** MDR, mes Joniami(e)s! (Mort de rire = LOL) Pas exactement, cher Monsieur. The "u" in French is usually pronounced "ooo" or like we say about something yucky: "ewwwwww" (with your lips a little turned down, kind of pouty -- hard to describe en mots. Maybe CoT can explain it better.). Or here's a way to pronounce it that you "can really feel": it's like the "u" in "Duke"! (Like the "Fuke" in "Duck Fuke", mdr!) Et soyez la bienvenue, Sherelle ma belle. Glad that Joni love sucked you back this way -- after you've been two-timing us with Michael McDonald! (Just kidding; you know two discussion lists are better than one. There's a wide world of lovely musical landscapes to discover.) Laughing it all away, Patti P. P.S. Holiday hint: do *not* try to shower off the dust on your glass Christmas tree ornaments (you know, the shiny balls?) with the kitchen sink sprayer. The color comes off. (Life is for learning.) _________________________________________________________________ The best games are on Xbox 360. Click here for a special offer on an Xbox 360 Console. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/wheretobuy/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:53:22 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Dan Fogelberg 1951-2007 (njc) Run for the Roses D. Fogelberg Born in the valley And raised in the trees Of Western Kentucky On wobbly knees With mama beside you To help you along You'll soon be a growing up strong. All the long, lazy mornings In pastures of green The sun on your withers The wind in your mane Could never prepare you For what lies ahead The run for the roses so red And it's run for the roses As fast as you can Your fate is delivered Your moment's at hand It's the chance of a lifetime In a lifetime of chance And it's high time you joined In the dance It's high time you joined In the dance From sire to sire It's born in the blood The fire of a mare And the strength of a stud It's breeding and it's training And it's something unknown That drives you and carries You home. And it's run for the roses As fast as you can Your fate is delivered Your moment's at hand It's the chance of a lifetime In a lifetime of chance And it's high time you joined In the dance It's high time you joined In the dance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:33:12 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Wake 'em, shake 'em, Joni & Melissa! "One of the things that made me quit was that I said I wasn't going to write any more social commentary," Mitchell says. "When I quit 10 years ago, I got stubborn with myself. I took a lot of flack. I didn't want to go through the experience. "I was mad at America. Come on wake up. You know, wake 'em, shake 'em. I just didn't want to be the one." From: http://jonimitchell.com/Library/view.cfm?id=1734 You ARE the one Joni, and we're so glad you are back. There's a whole lotta shakin' going on. I heard that Melissa Etheridge brought the house down at the Nobel Peace Prize concert with "I Need To Wake Up". (Here it is, if you have 3:36 minutes; it's not the concert version, though, I don't think): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2UeBw9fnck The concert is supposed to be on American TV in January: Voila: "But this year, the winner is a famous American and the cause, climate change, is becoming a dominant topic in politics and daily life across the country. Organizers said this year's concert would be shown in January on Fox's My TV, a network started last year. "The Nobel is a global award, not a Norwegian award, so we want a global audience," said Odd Arvid Stromstad, the concert's executive producer. "U.S. TV is more commercialized than European TV, and it's harder to get substance on the big channels. I was brought up on TV being an intellectual means of communications, and it's hard to find that on the main channels in the United States."" That is from (and more on the concert and all): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/11/AR2007121102491.html I hope we have lots of good things happening in 2008. (NPIMH: Beatles singing "I've got to admit it's getting better, better, a little better all the time, it can't get no worse....") Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:14:25 -0800 (PST) From: Bryan Subject: Dan Fogelberg NJC Oh God, I read Dan died today of prostate cancer. At age 56. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:49:26 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: Dan Fogelberg NJC - --- Bryan wrote: > Oh God, I read Dan died today of prostate cancer. At age 56. G-d rest his soul. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/16/obit.fogelberg.ap/index.html NEW YORK (AP) -- Dan Fogelberg, the singer and songwriter whose hits "Leader of the Band" and "Same Old Lang Syne" helped define the soft-rock era, died Sunday at his home in Maine after battling prostate cancer. He was 56. His death was announced Sunday on the singer's Web site. "Dan left us this morning at 6 a.m. He fought a brave battle with cancer and died peacefully at home in Maine with his wife, Jean, at his side," it read. "His strength, dignity and grace in the face of the daunting challenges of this disease were an inspiration to all who knew him." Fogelberg discovered he had advanced prostate cancer in 2004. In a statement then, he thanked fans for their support: "It is truly overwhelming and humbling to realize how many lives my music has touched so deeply all these years. ... I thank you from the very depths of my heart." Fogelberg's music was powerful in its simplicity. He didn't rely on the volume of his voice to convey his emotions; instead, they came through in the soft, tender delivery and his poignant lyrics. Songs like "Same Old Lang Syne" -- in which a man reminisces after meeting an old girlfriend by chance during the holidays -- became classics not only because of his performance, but also for the engaging storyline. Fogelberg's heyday was in the 1970s and early '80s, when he scored several platinum and multiplatinum records fueled by such hits as "The Power of Gold" and "Leader of the Band," a touching tribute he wrote to his father, a bandleader. Fogelberg put out his first album in 1972. Fogelberg's songs tended to have a weighty tone, reflecting on emotional issues in a serious way. But in an interview with the Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Journal Sentinel in 1997, he said it did not represent his personality. "That came from my singles in the early '80s," he reflects. "I think it probably really started on the radio. I'm not a dour person in the least. I'm actually kind of a happy person. Music doesn't really reflect the whole person. "One of my dearest friends is Jimmy Buffett. From his music, people have this perception that he's up all the time, and, of course, he's not. Jimmy has a serious side, too." Later in his career, he would write material that focused on the state of the environment, an issue close to his heart. Fogelberg's last album was 2003's "Full Circle," his first album of original material in a decade. A year later he would receive his cancer diagnosis, forcing him to forgo a planned fall tour. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! 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