From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #487 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, December 3 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 487 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Laura Nyro (NJC) [Gary Z ] RE: John Lennon cards, now about porn/art njc [Rian Afriadi ] a meeting with a young joni fan [Mags ] Re: Travelogue [David Sapp ] Re: njc, Rufus does Judy! / Paris concert coming up [Smurf ] Re: Reaction to Essentials [SweetbirdUR@aol.com] RE: njc, Rufus does Judy! / Paris concert coming up [Patti Parlette ] Re: Laura Nyro (NJC) [Bob Muller ] Sally Dworsky - All I Want [Bob Muller ] Re: a meeting with a young joni fan [Bob Muller ] Re: Travelogue+ A Story How I Got My Travelogue NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Essentials [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Subject: Joni Essentials [walter yablonsky ] Re: Travelogue [Mark-Leon Thorne ] RE: Travelogue+ A Story How I Got My Travelogue NJC ["Kate Bennett" Subject: Laura Nyro (NJC) Hi all, I found a really nice Tribute Medly Remix on youtube of Laura Nyro. There are some great photos of Laura that I haven't seen before. If you're interested, have a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH__7fvwmmc&feature=related Watch for a sweet, one of a kind photo of Laura and her partner,Maria. (About 2:54 minutes in) Laura never fails to touch my heart..musically and spiritually.. Best regards, Gary Z. Detroit np: Laura Nyro - Emmie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 15:21:39 -0800 (PST) From: Rian Afriadi Subject: RE: John Lennon cards, now about porn/art njc I once used the album cover of John&Yoko's Two Virgins : Unfinished Music as a desktop wallpaper. My friends went nuts. What do you think about that album cover? Is that an art or just a nice piece of porn? Rian NP. You Dream Flat Tires, from WTRF Patti wrote: I love spreading the gospel of John and Joni! I'm thinking of starting a new church where they light the candles based on the question: WWJ&JD? (I'm only half kidding. Imagine!) John and Joni. Now THERE are some Latter Day Saints. (Tee hee....laughing it all away....sorry....I just spent a week in Utah where there are LDS stakes on every corner.) Here is lots more cool John Lennon stuff: - --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 00:27:43 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: 2 Joni references this week Joseph a ecrit: "The other Joni reference I (thought I) heard this week was, strangely enough, in a moviehouse. While waiting for Sidney Lumet's "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead" (very well executed, directed, acted and paced) to start, the trailers and previews for upcoming movies were on the big screen. In the indie film "Starting Out in the Evening" (the one with Frank Langella and Lili Taylor), I thought I heard one character say Joni's name in reference to great writers. The movie (based on the short preview) is based on the relationship between an aging professor and a grad student. In that one brief scene, the student excitedly told the prof about being a great writer and she mentioned big names in the literary world and squeezed Joni's name in the middle. Should be a fun film to watch, yes?" YES! YES! And you heard right. I just checked: http://www.franklangella.net/frank/news.html SPOILER ALERT! She says: "I want to be bold. I want to be Joan Didion or Joni Mitchell or Joan of Arc." Vivent les Joans! Cool! Can't wait to see this. Merci, Joseph! And it's set in our milieu of professors and grad students so we can really relate. And you know any movie with a Joni mention in it has something going for it. A broader sensibility, perhaps? Quelle coincidence, aussi. I was just reading about Frank Langella today. I was trying to remember a movie from my h.s. days (circa LOTC & Blue), when one of my best friends was totally "in love" with Frank Langella. I was thinking of "Up the Sandbox" but that was not it. I just googled and found out that it was "Diary of a Mad Housewife." (Yep. 1970. LOTC. The ole Joni calendar of our lives is still working.) The site reminded me that Carrie Snodgress was in that, and it says that that she stopped making movies to go live with NEIL YOUNG with whom she raised a child. (Guess she had a strong longing, eh?) Wow. Not sure I knew that. Life is for learning! Hasn't he been married to Pegi for a long time? (That info was gleaned here: http://www.starpulse.com/movie/Diary_of_a_Mad_Housewife/V13633/0/2/ ) He is reprising his Tony Award-winning role as Tricky Dick in the Ron Howard directed "Frost/Nixon" film coming out next year. For anyone interested, here is the article from the LA Times: http://www.courant.com/entertainment/movies/hc-langella.artdec02,0,7634822.story Love Actually, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:34:22 -0500 (EST) From: Mags Subject: a meeting with a young joni fan over the weekend, i had the privilege of spending time with a young joni fan, age 13, who attended the Fiddle and the Drum ballet, loved it, gave glowing reviews. for a major school project last year, said person chose Joni Mitchell. a woman of distinction was the only criteria. part of the focus was to speak to this: how did Joni make a difference, what was the turning point in her career and so on. as a result, of research and comtemplation, a song was written and performed as part of the project. fresh lyrics, piano and clarinet were the instruments of choice. gushing with pride, me. for the roses is the only joni in the collection at home. next? suggestions? npimk: the boys, helplessly hoping. Mags~ - --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 16:41:58 -0800 (PST) From: David Sapp Subject: Re: Travelogue I absolutely adore Travelogue... and believe it to be a work of genius... but upon its release I took part in many heated discussions about it and had my say many times so I will leave it at that. I will say that all the discussions, although heated, were respectful and even though I have disagreed with other listers on this issue for many years... there is no ill will at all... that is the beauty of art and beauty of our own opinions. ... signing off for now, Peace, David - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: Smurf Subject: Re: njc, Rufus does Judy! / Paris concert coming up One of my best friends is going to Paris on Tuesday and had asked his friend who lives there to get tickets to the Rufus concert coming up next week. His friend didn't get the tickets, so I was wondering if anyone here can help mon ami get to see Rufus. Merci, - --Smurfi . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:17:41 +0000 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: a meeting with a young joni fan I would say Shine. There is a continuity between the 2 albums. It also has a clarity to it which shows great insight. warn your young fan about the voice. much Joni On 03/12/2007, Mags wrote: > over the weekend, i had the privilege of spending time with a young joni > fan, age 13, who attended the Fiddle and the Drum ballet, loved it, gave > glowing reviews. > > for a major school project last year, said person chose Joni Mitchell. a > woman of distinction was the only criteria. part of the focus was to speak > to this: how did Joni make a difference, what was the turning point in her > career and so on. > > as a result, of research and comtemplation, a song was written and > performed as part of the project. fresh lyrics, piano and clarinet were the > instruments of choice. gushing with pride, me. > > for the roses is the only joni in the collection at home. next? > suggestions? > > npimk: the boys, helplessly hoping. > > Mags~ > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the > boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:29:41 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Re: Travelogue+ A Story How I Got My Travelogue I'm on pins & needles, Rian! Where did you eventually find it? I love T'log. But as I've said many times it is best listened to in the following manner- in the evening, with all the house lights off (holiday lights are okay), relaxing in your favorite chair or couch undisturbed, fire crackling, candles burning, sometime around the winter solstice (for northern hemisphere dwellers), sipping on your favorite holiday beverage. If you do this, it will take you on a marvelous visual journey. Try it! It is that time of year! Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:32:09 -0600 From: mia _ Subject: re: nice cover Hi Ann, Welcome to the list! Hey, I'm from the Milwaukee area, too, as are a few others - very cool! Thanks for sharing that tidbit from Prairie Home - I believe Garrison Keillor is also a fan of Joni. Mia <> _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:39:52 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: Reaction to Essentials Rian wrote: > Laura's choice is so interesting. She put Blue and C&S on "Be Careful". > Laura, can you tell us the reason? You know, most of us consider Blue and > C&S gems. > Hi Rian, I put them on Be Careful along with Wild Things Run Fast because of their popularity which might lead people to think they "are" Joni... but there is so much more to Joni. So be careful not to get in a "this is Joni" rut by these albums. Love, Laura ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:45:32 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: njc, Rufus does Judy! / Paris concert coming up The drag queen of our dreams wrote: > > One of my best friends is going to Paris on Tuesday > and had asked his friend who lives there to get > tickets to the Rufus concert coming up next week. His > friend didn't get the tickets, so I was wondering if > anyone here can help mon ami get to see Rufus. > > Merci, Your wish is my command, Monsieur le SoB. I shall email some free men and women in Paris toute de suite and we'll see what we can do. Because, I'd do anything for you In spite of it all I've learned so much from you You made me strong But don't even think that I don't love you That for one minute I forgot you But sometimes things don't work out right And you just have to say goodbye I hope you find someone to please you Someone who'll care and never leave you But if that someone ever hurts you You just need a friend to turn to And I'd do anything for you I'll give you up If that's what I should do To make you happy Bisous, mon petit choux! L'amour et la paix, Mlle. Parlette, the Madwoman of Chaillot, er, Mansfield P.S. Tell your petit ami to be careful wandering down the Champs Elysees! _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:54:59 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: Reaction to Essentials Hi Kev, Your love for DED inspires me to listen to it more often. You turned me on to Sweet Bird so I'll never take your opinion of Joni songs lightly. Love, Laura PS. If you get cold on the east coast, fly south... ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:10:33 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni Essentials Marion wrote: > To start with: (pick 1, some compilation) > Hits, I guess. Or better, the WOHAM dvd. > Hi Ya'll, What about Joni DVD's? How many are there? Which is your favorite? Here are the DVD's I have... are there more? The Pink Dress Concert (BBC 1970) Joni Mitchell and Band (London 1983) Refuge of the Roads (1984) Come in From the Cold (????) Joni Mitchell CBC-TV (????) Northeast Jonifest 2004 Give-away Woman of Heart and Mind Painting with Words and Music Shadows and Light I guess my favorite is Painting with Words and Music... hard to pick just one favorite though. Love, Laura ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 20:47:15 -0600 From: Dennis Leong Subject: Joni on BBC interview online http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/default.stm click on Latest Show: advance to 33:20 for the Andrew Marr intro. from 34:05 to 40:55 is the actual interview via satellite from 58:32 to 58:57 is a small clip of Joni singing Carey at Wembley 1983. _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:13:15 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Laura Nyro (NJC) Yes, you did - and thanks for sharing it. I enjoyed it a lot. The music was really seamlessly woven and the photos were nice. Just wish there had been something from Nested included there, but oh well. There are some artists that I don't want to hear all the time, but everytime a Laura song comes on I'm loving it. Thanks to the JMDL for expanding my knowledge about this phenomenal artist. Bob NP: Freedy Johnston, "Delores" - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:06:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Sally Dworsky - All I Want Thanks for that, Stephen - all I need is a little comment like that every once in a while to keep me plugging away. Glad you liked it. Bob NP: Susan Tedeschi, "River" - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:15:41 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: a meeting with a young joni fan Golly Jeepers, Magsie - we've just spent the weekend writing up our essentials and recommended albums. Do you read the list or just write to it? :oP Bob NP: John Mellencamp, "Rooty Toot Toot" - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:18:11 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Travelogue+ A Story How I Got My Travelogue NJC Heck, Jim Nabors' Greatest Hits would sound great under those conditions! Bob NP: The Police, "Synchronicity II" - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:22:44 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Essentials Four. S&L, Refuge, PWWAM, & WOHAM. I'm partial to WOHAM meself. Bob NP: Badly Drawn Boy, "Walking Out Of Stride" - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:41:30 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni Essentials Oh you heard then? Remember how Starbucks signed Joni for the two album deal? Well, recently she said her next project is going to be singing the white pages to a jazz backing. :) -Monika Michael Paz wrote: Are you kidding? She could sing the white pages and it would be the bomb. - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:48:58 -0800 (PST) From: walter yablonsky Subject: Subject: Joni Essentials Essentials: (pick 3) 1. song to a seagull (could be the best album ever made...) 2. for the roses (...well next to this one. it's my fave joni) 3. hejira (sometimes this one's my fave too. these are definitely my top 3) Recommended: (pick 3) 1. hissing of summer lawns (her most complex) 2. clouds (wasn't there such a change between albums 1(stas) & 2(clouds?) i do love this one a lot though. and i think her singing is just fine. 3. court and spark (still has surprises after a thousand plays) Be careful: (pick 3) 1. don juan's reckless daughter (get rid of "paprika plains" and it is yet another perfect album. perhaps her last) 2. night ride home (a great comeback) 3. turbulent indigo (this one gets better with age) Go ahead and skip: (pick 3) 1. dog eat dog (save for "impossible dreamer" & "empty try another") 2. the recent double one with the orchestra (i like the previous one, "both sides now" tho) 3. (those are the only 2 i dislike) Live: (pick 1) 1. "miles of aisles" To start with: (pick 1, some compilation) 1. "hits & misses." i dislike most of the others. especially when she sneaks in those orchestral ones over the originals. in general i'm kind of tired of "blue," (even tho it's a classic of course.) and i don't see why everyone is so down on "taming the tiger." i like that one fine. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 15:17:58 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Travelogue Hi Eric. I can understand your dismay at the "dissing" Travelogue has gotten. It seems to polarise its audience. Firstly, I love the concept and was anxious to hear it when I heard what Joni was trying to do. Several artists have tried something similar. Mostly the artists were poor when they first recorded their songs and, once they had some cash to spare, fulfilled their dream of recording the songs again in a way they wanted to but were unable to before. Joni was older and wiser than when she recorded most of those songs. She had learned a lot more about music and was much more in control. Obviously, she was inspired by how Both Sides, Now turned out and must have thought, "Wouldn't it be lovely to have that rich full orchestra sound behind some of these other songs?" So many people have reinterpreted her songs so, why not Joni herself? I love the covers that Bob has so diligently kept us abreast of. They give us a new perspective on the songs that we love. I'm even warming to the jazz and instrumental interpretations. What's even more interesting though is the artist's own re-interpretation of her own songs, 10, 20 years later. If I was a recording artists, I would jump at the chance to do my songs over with a full orchestra behind me. Sure, some of the songs weren't quite what I was expecting and maybe even Joni wasn't completely satisfied with the end result but it is what it is and I for one, am so glad she made the attempt. As you mentioned, Joni even outdid her originals on some of them. The Dawntreader for example. The Travelogue version was the inspiration for my wallpaper of the same name. It's not so much based on that version but it inspired me to listen to the song (in both forms) much more closely and it is now one of my favourite Joni songs. I hope Joni keeps experimenting. She just gets more interesting with everything she does. Just my AU$0.02 Mark in Sydney NP a Summer storm outside my window. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:15:55 -0800 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Travelogue+ A Story How I Got My Travelogue NJC Ha Ha . Ha rdly. But to each his or her own. I suspect its part of what I think you said about not liking strings? I love strings. ?Heck, Jim Nabors' Greatest Hits would sound great under those conditions! Bob< ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #487 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------