From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #470 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, November 21 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 470 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Spirit of the water njc ["Randy Remote" ] Joni's Best Recipes + Sex Kills [Marianne Rizzo ] Re: which Joni constellations [rian afriadi ] Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC [rian afriadi ] Re: which joni constellation? [SweetbirdUR@aol.com] James Taylor - NJC ["Jerry Notaro" ] 2-hour Thanksgiving Joni Radio Feature [chuck eisenhardt ] Re: which joni constellation? [Jeannie ] Re: Spirit of the water [Jeannie ] Re: which joni constellation? [Jeannie ] Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC [Jeannie ] Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC [rian afriadi ] Re: Woodstock [Victor Johnson ] Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Woodstock ["rflynn@frontiernet.net" ] Re: Spirit of the water NJC (sp? correction) [Jeannie ] Re: Spirit of the water njc ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: Woodstock ["Dan Olson" ] Woodstock helicopter lore, myth? ["Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" ] re: Joni on Charlie [c Karma ] re: Joni's Best Recipes & Sex Kills (prior to F word discussion) [c Karma] Re: Joni's Best Recipes + Sex Kills, now The F word now njc? ["Eric Taylo] Strange Rain ["Eric Taylor" ] Please someone set this to music! njc ["Eric Taylor" ] Looking for a particular Joni picture [Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Spirit of the water njc From: "Eric Taylor" > A redwood sapling costs under $100, can remove 50 pounds of carbon from > the air every year and can live for thousands of years. Yes, but what size redwood? It takes decades to mature- every mature redwood saved from the chainsaw surely equals hundreds or thousands of saplings. Yet they are still being cut at a frenzied pace. Planting trees is good. Preventing forest destruction is probably more important since forests reproduce saplings naturally. Maybe what is needed is an alternative to wood for building (not to mention an end to overpopulation). Bamboo and hemp are two fast growing alternatives. RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:03:09 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: Joni's Best Recipes + Sex Kills let's get into some funny scenes, babies! heh heh ; - ) >From: rian afriadi >You studied to portray me/ In ice and greens/ And old blue jeans/ And naked in the roses/ Then >you got into funny scenes/ That all your work discloses _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:23:01 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: which Joni constellations Right now, the lines that reflect me are: Fuck it! Tonight Im going dancing with the drag queens and the punk. (from Tax Free) And this: I don't feel so good I don't feel so good (from Tax Free) And this: Let me speak let me spit out my bitterness (from Jobs Sad Song) A few days ago: Maybe I'm just dramatizing I don't care It's home it can be heaven When we play fair (from Off Night Backstreet) And this: Although I speak in tongues Of men and angels I'm just sounding brass And tinkling cymbals without love (from Love) Most time: Got to be a winner trophy winner Get to hold your head up high up Number one (from number one) Rian - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:24:11 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC I cant understand this too: I always type apostrophe everytime i write Im, hes, shes, its, Jonis... But those apostrophes never appear on the Digest. I wonder of theres any explanation for this... Rian NP. I Wish I Were In Love Again. - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 04:25:19 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: A Constellation In Sydney. NJC Marks story about Richard was touching. Rian. NP. Youre My Thrill - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:11:18 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: which joni constellation? A tree wrote: > Which Joni line best reflects you? > "aging children, I am one" ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: James Taylor - NJC Live In Concert this morning on CBS. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:30:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: chuck eisenhardt Subject: 2-hour Thanksgiving Joni Radio Feature WUMB.org (UMASS, Boston NPR radio) will air a two-hour radio feature on Ms. Mitchell beginning at 2 PM. I don't know if this is new material? It's recent in any case...I clip>> The Emergence of Joni Mitchell 2:00 pm featuring Joni Mitchell As Joni Mitchell releases her first album of new material in 10 years ("Shine," September 24), award-winning producer Paul Ingles hosts "The Emergence of Joni Mitchell," a two-hour examination of Mitchell, one of the most heralded songwriters of her time. In this third installment of his series on the seminal work of important figures in popular music, Ingles and his guests explore how Joni Mitchell crafted her artistry and connected with audiences over four decades. Mitchell put the experience of being a woman and being human on artful display through her blatantly honest and confessional lyrics, innovative open guitar tunings and jazz-inflected vocals. The program focuses on Mitchell's key releases to illuminate the musicianship of the woman "Rolling Stone" called "one of rock's most daring and uncompromising innovators." By mixing Mitchell's music from these pivotal moments with informed commentary from musicians, fans, music critics and archival interviews with Mitchell herself, "The Emergence of Joni Mitchell" articulates what music lovers have found so compelling about this thoughtful and innovative writer and performer. Special guests include music writers Ann Powers, Anthony DeCurtis, Paul Zollo, Lydia Hutchinson and Holly George-Warren. Also featured are musicians Shawn Colvin, Lucy Kaplansky and others. Also, WUMB traditionally airs at noon a performance of Alice's Restaurant w/ extras that has become a Thanksgiving tradition in our house. I can't recommend WUMB highly enough. Just point a browser at WUMB.org, pick your media player of choice (Windows, Real 365) and enjoy. (Or in eastern MA at 91.9FM and affiliates) Have a great holiday! Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:18:40 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Joni's Best Recipes + Sex Kills, now The F word discussion. Ah well, I've always liked that particular line in DJRD, that's why. Interesting way to put it, eh? -M rian afriadi wrote: Monika wrote: Off the top of my head without thinking about it too much,... (edited) Wow Monika! Youre great. You can recall a line from DJRD without thinking about it too much. I think the lyric of that song is too long to remember. And about Woman of Heart And Mind, Its interesting how the word F*** was not bleeped or omitted from the record. For Gods sake, that was 1972! Or, could people say the word f*** freely in the 1970s? Another F word on Jonis songs : On The Beat of Black Wings I can't even hear the fucking music playing For the beat of the beat of black wings On Tax Free Fuck it! Tonight I'm going dancing With the drag queens and the punks The Fs on those 2 songs dont mean sexual act. But still, theyre F words. On Madonnas American Life, there are 4 fuck it. Those F*** dont mean sexual act. But they were enough to make a parental advisory logo appeared on the album cover. Or, on another version, the Fs were omitted, and the album cover contained no more logo. This case raised a new question : How could Joni didnt get busted while Madonna did get busted? Rian NP. 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If you love trees, check out this link: http://www.treetwist.co.uk/pages/Wangari.htm Marian - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marianne Rizzo" To: "joni list" ; "patti parlette" Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 1:01 PM Subject: which joni constellation? > Which Joni line best reflects you? > > I will say, > "paving over brave little parks." > > and this comes to the top of my head first. > > I think I was a tree in one of my last lives. . (a simple maple tree, > perhaps) > > (okay, I'll disclose: one time in my country neighborhood they were > cutting > down trees and I got so upset my hands started to bleed. . . ) > > : -) > > I am thankful for trees. . > > (bringing the discussion round and round) > > when I am gone, if any of you are left. . plant a tree in memory of me. . > > or you can even do it now! > > Love and kisses. > greatful for you. . . (again) don't forget that. > XOXO > Marianne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: which joni constellation? Mark-Leon, You are one of the most coolest-compassionate humans of the coolest-compassionate humans~~a man of heart and humor and humility and might and mind, but most of all, a beacon of light and love, here on the JMDL. Don't ever leave us, Mark-Leon. You know, I can sit here and think about so many of Joni's songs I can relate your life's situations with. Thank you for your honesty~~you remind me of Joni's and Hana's character. And I see images of you in.. ..Two Grey Rooms... ..Conversation.. ..Cactus Tree.. ..A Case Of You.. ..Clouds.. ..Circle Game.. ..Car On The Hill.. ..The Priest.. And I could go on and on, Mark-Leon. And I love you like a brother. Me, I relate most to Joni's song, A Case of You. Oh, I am a lonely painter and I live in a box of paints I'm frightened by the devil And I'm drawn to those that ain't afraid. But my version is: I'm a lonely, little petunia, living on an onion patch.. An onion patch An onion patch. And I hate the smell of sulpher And love the smells of oranges, pine cones, Frankincense, Myrrh, Stacte, Onycha Sandalwood, Patchoulli, Galbanum, and you know, so many more precious oils... And, here's a cheer to Mark-Leon~~ ~~Seventeen glasses Rhine wine Milk of the Madonna Clandestine He don't let up the sorrow He lies and he cheats It takes a heart like Mary's these days When you man gets weak.~~ ~Joni~~ And Joni, you and all folks made out of loyalty to love and life are royalty to me And I'm humbled with your honesty. Jeannie Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: I don't know if I can be summed up by one Joni song but what drew me to Joni's songs is that every time I heard one of her songs, I was blown away by how it described a situation in my life so closely. Here was a songwriter from the other side of the world, a female and 20 years older than me going through the same situations (no pun intended) as me. When I was about 20, I had a secret affair with a married man who lived a few streets away from me. He was a school teacher whose name was Richard. It was the wrong thing to do but I felt that I was totally in love with him. He had a good life with his partner and a good job at a Catholic girls' school and knowledge of me could have ruined his life totally. I protected him by remaining discreet but it never sat right with me. I felt that the song, Rikki Don't Lose That Number best fit my situation until later when I finally did the right thing and quietly departed. Years later, I ran into Richard and found he was still in the same relationship, living a blissful married life, renovating his old Victorian terrace and spending all his nights at home. His partner was unaware that we ever met. I was happy for him but, I, myself, was alone. That was the last time I saw Richard. Mark in Sydney nj ' - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:50:17 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Spirit of the water Now, that's the best idea I've ever heard! Let's throw the mega-greedy money-changers from our holy-temple-Earth! Infuse the out-dated Roman currency system with the real treasures of our planet, and combine the barter trade system for us and Eric's ideas and charge the corporations employees an arm and a leg just to be able to see a Redwood Forest Tree, a redbird that flies the sky and a pretty yellow and black colored bumble-bee. Let's keep the coin-keepers in their self-made barbed-wire, concrete castles and underground bomb shelters, with the stench of sulpher everywhere. Jeannie Eric Taylor wrote: SHINE has restarted me thinking. What if every source of C02 was taxed according to the how many trees it would cost to plant to offset the carbon it produces? For instance one incandescent light bulb can add a ton of carbon to the atmosphere in its lifetime. One SUV can add millions. A redwood sapling costs under $100, can remove 50 pounds of carbon from the air every year and can live for thousands of years. Presently we weak humans spew 8 billion metric tons of carbon into the sky every year and it will hit 16 billion by 2020 if not much sooner. It requires about 40 redwoods to 'sequester' one ton of carbon from the atmosphere every year, converting it into oxygen and H20. So it would cost about the same amount of money to plant enough redwoods to reverse global warming as it is costing to fight one war in Iraq. Yeash!!! ET 'Spirit of the water Give us all the courage and the grace To make genius of this tragedy unfolding The genius to save this place.' nj ' - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:56:11 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: which joni constellation? So, sorry, Mark and All, It should read: "When your man gets weak." Jeannie Jeannie wrote: And, here's a cheer to Mark-Leon~~ ~~Seventeen glasses Rhine wine Milk of the Madonna Clandestine He don't let up the sorrow He lies and he cheats It takes a heart like Mary's these days When you man gets weak.~~ ~Joni~~ And Joni, you and all folks made out of loyalty to love and life are royalty to me And I'm humbled with your honesty. Jeannie Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: I don't know if I can be summed up by one Joni song but what drew me to Joni's songs is that every time I heard one of her songs, I was blown away by how it described a situation in my life so closely. Here was a songwriter from the other side of the world, a female and 20 years older than me going through the same situations (no pun intended) as me. When I was about 20, I had a secret affair with a married man who lived a few streets away from me. He was a school teacher whose name was Richard. It was the wrong thing to do but I felt that I was totally in love with him. He had a good life with his partner and a good job at a Catholic girls' school and knowledge of me could have ruined his life totally. I protected him by remaining discreet but it never sat right with me. I felt that the song, Rikki Don't Lose That Number best fit my situation until later when I finally did the right thing and quietly departed. Years later, I ran into Richard and found he was still in the same relationship, living a blissful married life, renovating his old Victorian terrace and spending all his nights at home. His partner was unaware that we ever met. I was happy for him but, I, myself, was alone. That was the last time I saw Richard. Mark in Sydney nj ' - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. nj ' - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:35:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC I have noticed that double arrow with your posts, rian! At first, I thought it had to do with having your computer set in another country because when I go down to Mexico, there are certain keys on the Spanish keyboard, I have to play with, like a synthesizer, to make it work with the English language. But I suggest you ask Monika because her posts started acting funny after she changed her e-mail provider and I think it happened to Patti, too! Sincerely, Jeannie rian afriadi wrote: I cant understand this too: I always type apostrophe everytime i write Im, hes, shes, its, Jonis... But those apostrophes never appear on the Digest. I wonder of theres any explanation for this... Rian NP. I Wish I Were In Love Again. - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. nj ' - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:34:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" Subject: Woodstock If someone sees CSN(Y) in the Woodstock MOVIE, as I recall, that footage was from a different venue altogether. As I recall, CSN(Y) refused to allow their Woodstock performance to be in the film, and demanded that Joni's song be the title track. I'm going on (rough) memory here. Jim L'Hommedieu Dayton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:49:32 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC This is how i write my post (mostly): I write most of my posts in Microsoft Word (so i can track misspellings). The language setting is US English, and my keyboard is like any other international keyboard. I copy the posts, and paste them on the yahoomail window. When i paste them, i still can see the apostrophes. Hmmmmm.... Rian NP. The Fiddle And The Drum Jeannie wrote: I have noticed that double arrow with your posts, rian! At first, I thought it had to do with having your computer set in another country because when I go down to Mexico, there are certain keys on the Spanish keyboard, I have to play with, like a synthesizer, to make it work with the English language. But I suggest you ask Monika because her posts started acting funny after she changed her e-mail provider and I think it happened to Patti, too! Sincerely, Jeannie rian afriadi wrote: I cant understand this too: I always type apostrophe everytime i write Im, hes, shes, its, Jonis... But those apostrophes never appear on the Digest. I wonder of theres any explanation for this... Rian NP. I Wish I Were In Love Again. - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. nj ' - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:01:36 -0600 From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Re: Woodstock What? I specifically recall seeing CSN (without Y) in the movie, saying between songs that "we're scared shitless". What do you mean "Joni's song be the title track"? Title track of what? On 11/20/07, Lama (Jim L*Hommedieu) wrote: > > If someone sees CSN(Y) in the Woodstock MOVIE, as I > recall, that footage was from a different venue > altogether. As I recall, CSN(Y) refused to allow > their Woodstock performance to be in the film, and > demanded that Joni's song be the title track. > > I'm going on (rough) memory here. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > Dayton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:16:49 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Woodstock On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Lama (Jim L*Hommedieu) wrote: > If someone sees CSN(Y) in the Woodstock MOVIE, as I > recall, that footage was from a different venue > altogether. > As I recall, CSN(Y) refused to allow > their Woodstock performance to be in the film, and > demanded that Joni's song be the title track. > More specifically, it was Neil Young who refused to allow any footage of him in the movie. The footage of just CSN is indeed from Woodstock. If anyone sees Neil Young in the movie, they are probably tripping! Victor > I'm going on (rough) memory here. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > Dayton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:51:47 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: I Can't Understand This (Too). NJC That explains it then...when you do that it causes the strange charcaters to appear. Just type your messages in the yahoo window and smoe will read all the punctuation just fine. Bob NP: Laura Nyro, "Gibsom Street" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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The footage of just CSN is indeed from Woodstock. > If anyone sees Neil Young in the movie, they are probably tripping! > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'm going on (rough) memory here. >> >> Jim L'Hommedieu >> Dayton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Spirit of the water NJC (sp? correction) Sorry about the horrendous spelling error, 'sulpher.' It should read: ~with the stench of sulfur and asphyxiating carbon-dioxide everywhere and no good air anywhere down there...not even up in their towers made out of slaughtered elephant's ivory tusks.~ Jeannie Jeannie wrote: Let's keep the coin-keepers in their self-made barbed-wire, concrete castles and underground bomb shelters, with the stench of sulpher everywhere. Jeannie Eric Taylor wrote: SHINE has restarted me thinking. What if every source of C02 was taxed according to the how many trees it would cost to plant to offset the carbon it produces? For instance one incandescent light bulb can add a ton of carbon to the atmosphere in its lifetime. One SUV can add millions. A redwood sapling costs under $100, can remove 50 pounds of carbon from the air every year and can live for thousands of years. Presently we weak humans spew 8 billion metric tons of carbon into the sky every year and it will hit 16 billion by 2020 if not much sooner. It requires about 40 redwoods to 'sequester' one ton of carbon from the atmosphere every year, converting it into oxygen and H20. So it would cost about the same amount of money to plant enough redwoods to reverse global warming as it is costing to fight one war in Iraq. Yeash!!! ET 'Spirit of the water Give us all the courage and the grace To make genius of this tragedy unfolding The genius to save this place.' nj ' - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. nj ' - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:03 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: Woodstock Unlike Joni (and CSN) Neil thought Woodstock was a crock. It's funny though because if you search on YouTube you can fine some Neil tunes from Woodstock (Mr.Soul for example). However, on the song Mr. Soul as I mentioned, you hear Neil singing but the camera stays on Stills the entire time. -Monika Victor Johnson wrote: On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Lama (Jim L*Hommedieu) wrote: > If someone sees CSN(Y) in the Woodstock MOVIE, as I > recall, that footage was from a different venue > altogether. > As I recall, CSN(Y) refused to allow > their Woodstock performance to be in the film, and > demanded that Joni's song be the title track. > More specifically, it was Neil Young who refused to allow any footage of him in the movie. The footage of just CSN is indeed from Woodstock. If anyone sees Neil Young in the movie, they are probably tripping! Victor > I'm going on (rough) memory here. > > Jim L'Hommedieu > Dayton, OH - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:17:29 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Spirit of the water njc Hi Randy, I planted a 10 foot dawn redwood in my back three years ago and it is now 25 feet tall! It can grow seven feet a year. Two years ago I planted three black bamboos behind the dawn redwood and they are getting huge fast. Last Spring I planted a giant sequoia sapling and it has grown five times its size in one season. I figure that these trees and bamboos will be 'sequestering' about 250 pounds of C02 from the atmosphere every year in the next few years. When my family moved here in 1952 it was a cornfield. We planted five blue spruce, three Norway maples, a dozen hemlocks, two dogwoods, one Himalayan birch and 20 yews on our half acre which is now a forest. Some of these trees are 100 feet tall. I figure that they are converting perhaps 3000 pounds of C02 into oxygen every year. This is not enough to offset the carbon our household produces but I notice that these trees keep our home much cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. I agree that the best way to slow global warming is to stop clearcutting forests the size of Delaware every day just to raise cheap beef for fast food junkies but that ain't gonna happen as long as money, money, money is the bottom line for everything! BTW one year we had a 15 foot hemp plant in our garden. Too bad it was a male..... ;~) ET > From: "Eric Taylor" > > A redwood sapling costs under $100, can remove 50 pounds of carbon from > > the air every year and can live for thousands of years. > > Yes, but what size redwood? It takes decades to mature- > every mature redwood saved from the chainsaw surely > equals hundreds or thousands of saplings. Yet they are still > being cut at a frenzied pace. > Planting trees is good. Preventing forest destruction is probably > more important since forests reproduce saplings naturally. > Maybe what is needed is an alternative to wood for building > (not to mention an end to overpopulation). Bamboo and hemp > are two fast growing alternatives. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:49:09 -0600 From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Re: Woodstock Another thing: Joni was so heartbroken that she stayed in the city (to appear on Dick Cavett), yet later (at Isle of Wight) she discovered how much she hated the huge festival experience. On 11/20/07, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > > Unlike Joni (and CSN) Neil thought Woodstock was a crock. It's funny > though because if you search on YouTube you can fine some Neil tunes from > Woodstock (Mr.Soul for example). However, on the song Mr. Soul as I > mentioned, you hear Neil singing but the camera stays on Stills the entire > time. > -Monika > > Victor Johnson wrote: > On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:34 PM, Lama (Jim L*Hommedieu) wrote: > > > If someone sees CSN(Y) in the Woodstock MOVIE, as I > > recall, that footage was from a different venue > > altogether. > > > As I recall, CSN(Y) refused to allow > > their Woodstock performance to be in the film, and > > demanded that Joni's song be the title track. > > > > More specifically, it was Neil Young who refused to allow any footage > of him in the movie. The footage of just CSN is indeed from > Woodstock. If anyone sees Neil Young in the movie, they are probably > tripping! > > Victor > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going on (rough) memory here. > > > > Jim L'Hommedieu > > Dayton, OH > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See > how. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:11:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" Subject: Woodstock helicopter lore, myth? I'm counting this as Joni content. It's been said many times that Joni didn't play at Woodstock because her manager said she might not be able to get back to NYC in time for the Cavett show. What I haven't heard before is this: >Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young almost didn't perform at the festival. The helicopter that Graham Nash and the group's drummer, Dallas Taylor, were on was less than 25 feet off the ground when the tail rotor failed and it began to spin. The helicopter almost crashed and Nash and Taylor were almost killed.> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066580/trivia That's a trivia page on a movie database site. Is this old news, rumor, or fact? Jim L'Hommedieu Dayton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:23:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" Subject: CSN(Y) & the Woodstock soundtrack, njc now Here's what I remembered about CSN(Y), the Woodstock film, and its soundtrack: >There was a certain amount of manipulation involved in the rapid mythologization of CSN&Y as the epitome of the "Woodstock nation." Their manager, David Geffen, who also represented many of the other acts which appeared, threatened to withdraw his cooperation from the film of the festival unless CSN&Y's cover of Joni Mitchell's Woodstock was used over the opening credits.> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_g1epc/is_bio/ai_2419200271 I don't know if the author is credible but it's from "St. James Encyclopedia of Pop Culture" by Martyn Bone. Jim L'Hommedieu Dayton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:19:34 -0800 (PST) From: "Lama \(Jim L*Hommedieu\)" Subject: JT's new one, njc Has anyone heard "One Man Band" yet? Apparently that's the title of James Taylor's new 2 disc set (CD + DVD). It's on Hear Music. Jim L'Hommedieu Dayton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:02:28 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Joni on Charlie From Kakki: Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:48:07 -0800 From: Subject: Joni and Charlie It's against the law in California to smoke in enclosed work places so normally Joni would not be allowed to smoke - but didn't someone say Tavis let her smoke on his show? (I haven't viewed that one yet). Maybe they paid the fine ;-) Charlie seemed to me the same personality he has always been but I do recall way back he was always with a cigarette himself on the show! (He was also quite handsome back in the day). He should have done the interview "offsite", let her talk at length for about four hours and then edited it down to an hour. Hee. Kakki At least until last year, Charlie Rose was taped at Bloomberg studios. Well, we all know how Mike Bloomburg feels about smoking. If it's still done there, there was virtually no chance that Joni would have been allowed to smoke. I'd like not to think the interview lived and died on whether Joni was allowed to smoke. CC _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:28:27 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Joni's Best Recipes & Sex Kills (prior to F word discussion) Rian wrote (edited): Jewel said that Joni has lots of songs that talk about sex, i tried to compile them. Heres what i found: 1. Rays Dads Cadillac Rock n roll in the dashboard/ Romance in the back of/ Ray;s dad;s cadillac 2.Facelift Making love without a license 3.The Gallery You studied to portray me/ In ice and greens/ And old blue jeans/ And naked in the roses/ Then you got into funny scenes/ That all your work discloses 4.Raised on Robbery Im a pretty good cook/ Im sitting on my groceries/ Come up to my kitchen/ Ill show you my best recipe 5.In France They Kissed On Main Street And I'd be kissing in the back seat/ Thrilling to the Brando-like things that he said/ And we'd be rolling rolling rock 'n' rolling 6. Cactus Tree But im not very sure about this... But i always thought "While she was busy being free" is very sexual. Hmmm... Thats it. I'm sure you can find another references. I had three right away, additional to those Monika suggested. Mine are: Sweet Sucker Dance Blue Boy The Crazy Cries of Love Sweet Sucker Dance is probably the least overt, as it is more about the psychology of an affair than the physical deployment. Blue Boy is naive, sweet and demure. The Crazy Cries of Love is practically pornography. I won't give the quotes because I figure it's a reason to give these tracks a listen. CC _________________________________________________________________ You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:03:17 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: Joni's Best Recipes + Sex Kills, now The F word now njc? Mark in Seattle opined~ >>What really surprised me was that when Jefferson Airplane performed 'We Can Be Together' on that self-same post-Woodstock Dick Cavett show that Joni appeared on, Grace Slick was able to belt out 'Up against the wall, motherf**ker' and apparently slip it by the televsion censors. According to the dvd, this was not edited or bleeped out of the original broadcast. I just can't imagine that this could have happened in 1969!<< I agree Mark! To me it's even more amazing that BRAVO! Canada bleeped "I can't even hear the fuckin' music playin'" from the F&D Ballet in 2007!!! What are people SO afraid of??? You might remember a scandalous post I made to the JMDL back around 1999 entitled Joni's Pussy. It was not about the stolen painting of her cat but rather her painting on the cover of Mingus. Perhaps I'm just another vulgar American but I will never grasp the reason for forbidden words. If a song bird shits on your windshield is that too dirty to say? There is something seriously wrong with us white eyes! Black Elk spoke that the ability to cuss was one thing he admired about us illegal aliens from Europe. Waiting for Quetzalcoatl ET 'Shine on mass destruction in some God's name! Shine on the pioneers / those seekers of mental health Craving simplicity / they traveled inward / past themselves... May all their little lights shine' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:32:29 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Strange Rain SHINE has fired me up like no work of art Joni has ever done or for that matter anything any artist has ever done! I've always loved her social commentary as well as her gorgeous music and she has impacted my worldview in a very profound way. But SHINE has stirred my soul more than anything in my life and I am trying to understand why. I've been very concerned about all the nightmares SHINE addresses for some 30 years now but this is the first time I've felt it SO urgently. I keep hearing lines like 'Holy Earth how can we heal you / we cover you like a blight' while fighting constant rush hour even though it's not in the CD player! I try not to listen to SHINE every day for this very reason but that's hard because I LOVE singing alone with it! So far my favorite song to harmonize with is the title track. It's actually a prayer as beautiful as anything in David's Psalms or Buddhist chants. And James Taylor adds a masterful touch on acoustic guitar! Nothing raised on SHINE is new to me. Yet it has impacted me like 8 billion metric tons of bricks!!! I think this is because I've only understood these things intellectually for all these years. Al Gore has always appealed to my rational mind but Joni Mitchell is the first person to break my heart over all this shit! Tears are the windows to reality. This morning I woke up hearing the words 'strange rain' and was inspired to write my first poem in 15 years. Over three cups of coffee and five cigarettes the following poured out like no poem I've ever penned. Hope it doesn't come across as condescending and you get my humor..... Strange Rain Consumers ever driving Big oil is thriving Islanders are floundering Polar bears are drowning Ice caps keep on thawing Man keeps hem & hawing Sea levels keep rising Countless species dying Something must be done But we seem just too numb We're all too busy shopping While old growth trees are dropping The lungs of our sweet planet Are slash & burned God damn it! This crisis dwarfs all others As all life slowly smothers Man's become SO lazy Borderlining crazy We turn night into day And build one big LA We drive drive everywhere Poisoning all air The rain becomes more acid While man becomes more flaccid My heart goes out to creatures Who really are our teachers We're acting more like cancer And overlook the answer Money's the bottom line The culprit of this crime Eric WW Taylor 11/20/07 copyfreely This is more a lyric than a poem. It came to me like a song but all I can hear are the drums. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:25:51 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Please someone set this to music! njc Strange Rain Consumers ever driving Big oil is thriving Islanders are floundering Polar bears are drowning Ice caps keep on thawing Man keeps hem & hawing Sea levels keep rising Countless species dying Something must be done But we seem just too numb We're all too busy shopping While old growth trees are dropping The lungs of our sweet planet Are slash & burned God damn it! This crisis dwarfs all others As all life slowly smothers Man's become SO lazy Borderlining crazy We turn night into day And build one big LA We drive drive everywhere Poisoning all air The rain becomes more acid While man becomes more flaccid My heart goes out to creatures Who really are our teachers We're acting more like cancer And overlook the answer Money's the bottom line The culprit of this crime Eric WW Taylor 11/20/07 copyfreely ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:44:40 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Looking for a particular Joni picture Does anyone know where I could find this particular picture of Joni? I am looking for the big picture on the cover of Woman of Heart and Mind (my guess it is from '75 or so) where Joni is wearing the beret? Here's the cover and have a good, second look at what picture I mean: http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000096FTI.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg (the big, main one in the center) I am looking for a photo of just that to save in my folder and later put up as my computer background screen. Any help is appreciated. -Monika - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #470 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------