From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #462 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, November 16 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 462 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re:Number One - video [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: Alicia Keys (njc) [Michael Paz ] Re: Back again , Charlie Rose, Singer Songwriter Cruise, etc. [Michael Pa] Joni on Charlie Rose... [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Joni on Charlie Rose [Deb Messling ] Re: Sweet Bird, njc [SweetbirdUR@aol.com] Re: edwards, njc [SweetbirdUR@aol.com] Re: Alicia Keys NJC. [rian afriadi ] Re: Number One Video (Live on Amnesty International Show or sumthin) [ria] Re: Alicia Keys (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Joni on Charlie Rose [Patti Parlette ] Re: Alicia Keys NJC. [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose [Jerry Notaro ] RE: Tavis Smiley transcript and Dancin Clown [Michel BYRNE ] For the Charlie Roses [KEVIN DOHENY ] re: Craving simplicity [Jeannie ] SV: Joni on Charlie Rose ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: For the Charlie Roses [Jerry Notaro ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose [merk54@aol.com] Re: Craving simplicity ["Marian Russell" ] Re: Joni on Charlie Rose ["Marian Russell" ] Re: Suze's review and kay's cd and thanks NJC ["Donna Binkley" ] Re: Number One Video (Live on Amnesty International Show or sumthin) [Bo] njc:Joni mentions Calgary and Cattle on Charlie Rose [Jeannie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:24:57 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re:Number One - video On 16/11/2007, at 7:00 PM, onlyJMDL Digest wrote: > If I've seen this before I don't remember it. Very cool! Joni looked > like she was having fun and her delivery was so soulful and strong. > > I was listening to 'For the Roses' in the car on the way home from > work tonight. I got to thinking that, even when she was singing in > that pristine soprano voice, Joni has always sung like she's telling > you something. Like she's actually speaking to you. But singing. > > I can't explain it any better than that. I think a big part of why we > love her so much is that she's such a genius at communicating when she > performs. The excellence of the lyrics and the music have a lot to do > with it. But she has a way of getting straight into your head and > heart that is very powerful. > > Mark in Seattle I couldn't agree with you more, Mark. Joni speaks to our souls. She is foremost, an amazing communicator. Not to detract from her musical and artistic achievements but, I think the way she communicates is the main reason we are all here. We are the listeners. Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:36:31 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Alicia Keys (njc) Sounds good to me mini Jonifest and Thanksgiving Dinner at my house (where there have been guest appearances by Todd Rundgren fanatics. Right Patrick??) Paz en Old Mexico El Polanco Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 15, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Victor Johnson wrote: The new Alicia Keys "As I Am" is amazing and sublime! Available at your neighborhood Target. Great from beginning to end~! Victor, looking forward to Thanksgiving break ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:46:04 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Back again , Charlie Rose, Singer Songwriter Cruise, etc. Hi Phyliss- My heart goes out to you tonight my old friend. I got word this am about the passing of my dear friend Rodolfo Garcia. We grew up together and he moved to Germany where he learned to spek German and graduated medical school in Germany and went home with his German wife to live with their children. I am so sorry for your loss of which we have all had too many of, of late. I would like to hear more about the cruises. I will be home Sunday and home for 12 days before our final tour of the year. I am trying to book a cruise with the band and some other singer songwriters from N.O. for next year. Would love t see you guys. Much love! PaZ P.S. Julian taped Charlie Rose for me so I should be watching it about this time on sunday night. Enjoy all. So much Joni so little time! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Nov 16, 2007, at 12:56 AM, Phyliss Ward wrote: Hello friends, old and new. I've finally caught up....ok mostly deleted... the posts from the last couple of months. My life went into a bit of a tailspin when my brother in law died unexpectedly. I was in Miami helping my sis through this difficult time when the Joni and Herbie CDs came out...didn't get them till weeks later and still haven't had my life in a place to really listen to them much. And of course the posts went into overdrive! Whew! I'll try to be more up to date now (despite upcoming travel) so that I can comment on things and NOT MISS ANOTHER JONI BROADCAST EVENT! Damn! Thanks to U-Tube I did finally see the CBS Sunday Morning thing...nice piece. Yeah, short, but nice. I do not want to miss Charlie Rose though. Does anyone know when this is really going to be shown so I can set my recorder? The website says Guests: Joni Mitchell Appearances: None. What's up with that? Did she cancel? Inquiring minds want to know. Also, Bob and I have booked both the John Mayer and Friends and Cayamo Singer Songwriter Cruises through www.Sixthman.net , back to back in February. Is anyone else from the list going? If not, then WHY? It should be a blast plus: EmmyLou Harris, Patty Griffin, Shawn Colvin, Lyle Lovett, John Hiatt etc etc etc.! Contact me or the website for more info. I've already suggested they do a Herbie Hancock and Friends Cruise. Wouldn't that be interesting! I had a major dream last night. The kind where you wake up and go back to sleep and it picks up again. Started out as annoying unexpected visits from large numbers of extended family (which not surprisingly echoes my current real life) but it turned into a full blown Joni dream when "Jamie Box of Paints" (who I know only from his screen name on this list) shows up and clues me in it's all elaborate ploy to lure Joni to a pool party, which happens successfully. She looks radiant and we do lots of talking, chicken squaking! Yours Truly, Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni on Charlie Rose... Well I wasn't sure when it said "November 15th" what that exactly meant. Let me explain. CR is on for me at 12 AM so it is now Thursday, November 15th. I started recording on my DVR until I saw that the episode had only Robert Plant and a couple others as guests tonight. Must be tomorrow then, which would be Friday November 16th for me, but could be, yes? -Monika - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:17:34 -0500 From: Deb Messling Subject: Joni on Charlie Rose I thought Joni looked stunning on this show, absolutely stunning. The interview felt a little disjointed to me, and I'm sick of the "we're just car salesmen" anecdote, but whose to complain about any Joni appearance. I thought it was cute how Charlie said Joni was "finally" on his show; his was one of the many appearances she cancelled at one point or other. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:12:03 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: Sweet Bird, njc Kay wrote: > > I was playing "Sweet Bird" in my head on the subway this morning, in fact, > not realizing that there had been a resurrection of that discussion thread. > > Anyone who finds the song and the thread fascinating should read "The > Visionary Window" by Amit Goswami (I like to think of him as Go, Swami, > Go!). The subtitle is "A Quantum Physicist's Guide to Enlightenment". This > is not a technical book, but I would say that it's a difficult lay person's > read. But well worth it. > > Here's a link: > http://www.amazon.com/Visionary-Window-Quantum-Physicists-Enlightment/dp/0835 > 60845X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195153670&sr=8-1 > > Lots of food for thought about the in-between. > Hi Kay, I just ordered it. Looks really good from the synopsis. Thanks for the link. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:18:11 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: edwards, njc Bob wrote: > ALL you'd hear about every day on Fox would be > his law practice, his $400 haircuts, his "Breck Girl" image, etc. > Hi Bob, You got me really laughing to read, "Breck Girl" image. This must be why Marianne likes him. What strikes me are his Ultrabrite teeth. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:29:19 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: Alicia Keys NJC. I heard from a review that she sang duet with John Mayer on the album, and the review said that its like Carole-James during paleolithic era of singer-songwriter era. Gotta go the the music store, first thing in the morning. Rian. NP. Joni. Dancing Clown (just to annoy Bob) ;-) Hi Bob! The word paleolithic is from that review. I just rewrote it. Dont snap me. Love AK. Love JMs. Both JMs. (Joni Mitchell  John Mayer) (but of course i love Joni more) Victor wrote The new Alicia Keys "As I Am" is amazing and sublime! Available at your neighborhood Target. Great from beginning to end~! - --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:27:30 -0800 (PST) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: Number One Video (Live on Amnesty International Show or sumthin) I thought i heard a few BOOOOs before Joni sang the song. Did you hear that too? Or is it just an effect of listening Britneys Blackout album??? Rian NP. Britney  Get Naked (I Got A Plan) (Cesspoooooooooooool!!!!) - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:45:23 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Alicia Keys (njc) She's got a good history thus far, I've enjoyed her work to date. (paraphrasing Dylan, "there's nothing about that girl I don't like"). And I've enjoyed two other soulful recent releases as well: 1. Chaka Khan, "Funk This": Wow, is this a treat - and there's totally truth in advertising, this disc is funky as hell. It really takes me back to the days when you could click on the radio and hear EWF, Rick James, Rufus, Parliament/Finkadelic, etc. It's pure fun, of course it includes her awesome covers of "Ladies' Man" and my favorite track is her cover of Prince's "Sign O' The Times". While my early faves were the songs I was familiar with, by the 2nd listen I loved 100% of this record. 2. Bettye Lavette, "The Scene Of The Crime": My first exposure to Bettye was her jaw-dropping interpretaion of "Last Chance Lost" at Carnegie Hall. Most of us who were there that night picked that moment as the centerpiece of a night filled with many fine moments. Having heard two of her albums now, I understand that this was not just a fluke for her, it wasn't just that she was in the zone that night at Carnegie Hall...Bettye invests EVERYTHING she has in her soul in every syllable she sings, it is truly amazing and gut-wrenching. And a BIG BIG part of what makes this disc work is that her 'back-up band' is one of the strongest bands out there - The Drive-By Truckers. And it's a perfect marriage, just like Booker T & the MG's propelled Carla & Irma Thomas and all the others at Stax/Volt in Muscle Shoals, these Alabama folks get inspired by Bettye's emotional investment and in turn push her to reach as well. Changing gears now and tossing in a quick movie review, I watched "La Vie En Rose" (as opposed to Charlie Rose which of course I will see) and I loved it too. The actree who plays Edith Piaf gives one of the finest performances I've seen in a long time, and I loved the direction and editing and they way you could simultaneously love, hate, understand, and be bewildered by this unique character. Like Mark & Mark said, one of the things that Joni does so well is to talk/infuse her songs into you. When Edith was coached into investing herself into her delivery, she became the success that she was - I'm sure it was that emotional spirit that Joni picked up on. It's a fairly long film (2 hrs 20 mins) but it never dragged for me. Happy Friday all! Bob NP: Chaka Khan, "Will You Love Me" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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It didn't seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) ***** http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-joni-mitchell Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush administration ). Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. Love, Patti P. NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) In my midnight confessions/impressions When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:57:38 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Alicia Keys NJC. < NP. Joni. Dancing Clown (just to annoy Bob) ;-) Hi Bob!> LOL, not annoying at all, very funny. And hey, at least you know the title of the song and didn't refer to it as "Dancing Fools". Bob NP: Chaka, "Ladies' Man" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:10:53 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose Couldn't agree more, Patti. Made the Tavis interview look like the Frost/Nixon series. He kept wanting a snappy 1-2-3 answer from her and he threw off her rhythm and changed gears in mid swing. Though she did look gorgeous. A Sleepy Jerry.... > Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! > > Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a > disappointment? > > I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or much > too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was affirming > to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: > > ***** > > Brian Miller: > I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. > This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed > almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't > seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you > were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and > contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such > endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. > (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic > program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined > to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us > much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) > > ***** > > http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-jon > i-mitchell > > Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and > hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! > You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" > like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her > impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly > laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. > > Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to > watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- > that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush > administration ). > > Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." > > But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. > > Love, > > Patti P. > > NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) > > In my midnight confessions/impressions > When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it > now. > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269710 > 33 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:14:34 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: RE: Tavis Smiley transcript and Dancin Clown Thanks to Marianne for correcting the funny misreading in the transcript - 'high coup' for 'haiku'. What's omitted in the transcript too is Joni exclaiming 'And Chaka! I love Chaka!' when discussing the Herbie Hancock album - - it's sort of lost in the exchange and Tavis didn't pick up on it. Re Dancin Clown, i've come to respect the song more since discovering it was an exercise in fitting in as many horseracing names into a song as possible. It's very cleverly done. But I still don't like it.... Michel in dreich (i.e. dreary gloomy) Glasgow _________________________________________________________________ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:10:26 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: Re: Who would play Joni in a movie? How about Joni's daughter? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:19:48 EST From: SweetbirdUR@aol.com Subject: debate, njc http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/lasvegasdebate/?sc=1473&utm_source=1473& utm_medium=e ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Who would play Joni in a movie? I, too, thought of Joni's very own daughter. Who better than her own child? That would be awesome! Jeannie SweetbirdUR@aol.com wrote: How about Joni's daughter? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com nj ' - --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:51:24 -0800 From: "William Elliott" Subject: Re: All These Movie Talks....(Now Music Videos) Excuse me, but I am a part-timer who is, more than not, completely out of the loop, but is the GOOD FRIENDS music video available anywhere online? I caught perhaps the last 90 seconds of it once in circa 1986, and I've not seen it since. The same with SHINY TOYS, although I think I did once see that in its entirety at some point in the 1980s. It would be great to be able to see these two neglected chestnuts again. Click here to find great deals on vending machines.

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Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:36:02 -0800 (PST) From: KEVIN DOHENY Subject: For the Charlie Roses I can't help it and you are the only ones who care so here goes..I was frankly a lil bummed out after the interview last night.. I looked forward to it alll day wishin and hopin for an hour of charlie and joni...I know that publicity tours are neccessary and thankfully joni is very careful which shows she appears on, but all i got out of the interview is she has an album for sale and a ballet..Charlie was unprepared!! He had an opportunity to have joni for a full hour and decided to fill the majority of the show with OUTDATED(umm sopranos finale?? that was months ago why the importance to discuss it now?) tv talk...Giving joni a matter of minutes to ask so where ya been for ten years and he probably didn't let her smoke lol.. i am rambling a lil but I was dissapointed...When are we really going to get an in depth interview with joni. I wanna see her now on the old dick cavett show(i see her smokin and drinking like bette davis those dvd's are priceless).or anyone who will take a full hour to dig a lil deeper..We deserve better and more! xoxox Kev - --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:42:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: re: Craving simplicity My heavenly dream on earth would be that we'd all be neighbors, each with our very own cottages nearby, but separate, from one another~~we'd all get together~~kindred spirits who crave simplicity and all sorts of artistry~~singing, painting, meditating, dancing like ballarinas or silly clowns, laughing and crying, it doesn't matter, it's all the same release, with an agreement to disagree most graciously! With one love, one heart, beating to the rhythm of the Universe! Jeannie nj ' - --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:44:14 +0100 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Joni on Charlie Rose Patti, thank you for the link - although when I clicked it, there is a message on the web side that the video is not yet available. Of course, I have been unable to watch the interview over here so I can neither confirm your impression nor look at it from both sides now. But I do know that you are a person who nearly never says anything negative about anything to do with Joni, so knowing that and reading your sad report, I'm guessing it was pretty awful. Sorry you and Joni had to have such a bad experience! But I bet Joni said to herself "shine on the ignorant ...hole":-) Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Patti Parlette Skickat: den 16 november 2007 14:46 Till: joni@smoe.org; treegreen1@hotmail.com Dmne: Joni on Charlie Rose Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a disappointment? I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or much too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was affirming to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: ***** Brian Miller: I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) ***** http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-j oni-mitchell Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush administration ). Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. Love, Patti P. NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) In my midnight confessions/impressions When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL10062697 1033 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:59:42 -0500 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: For the Charlie Roses IMHO, the best interviews with Joni are the extended radio interviews with public and community owned radio stations. The interviewers are much more knowledgeable about Joni and her work and don't go back to The Flood (polio, bowling money, child out of wedlock) and take up valuable time on what most people know already. Many of them are out there on cd's and are rebroadcast occasionally. Jerry > I can't help it and you are the only ones who care so here goes..I was frankly > a lil bummed out after the interview last night.. I looked forward to it alll > day wishin and hopin for an hour of charlie and joni...I know that publicity > tours are neccessary and thankfully joni is very careful which shows she > appears on, but all i got out of the interview is she has an album for sale > and a ballet..Charlie was unprepared!! He had an opportunity to have joni for > a full hour and decided to fill the majority of the show with OUTDATED(umm > sopranos finale?? that was months ago why the importance to discuss it now?) > tv talk...Giving joni a matter of minutes to ask so where ya been for ten > years and he probably didn't let her smoke lol.. i am rambling a lil but I was > dissapointed...When are we really going to get an in depth interview with > joni. I wanna see her now on the old dick cavett show(i see her smokin and > drinking like bette davis those dvd's are priceless).or anyone who will > take a full hour to dig a lil deeper..We deserve better and more! xoxox Kev > > --------------------------------- > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it > now. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:02:55 -0500 From: merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose I was also disappointed by this interview.? Way too short (about 12-13 minutes if I'm not mistaken), and Charlie seemed like he would rather be at the dentist.? I sat through 45 minutes of bather about the fall line up for this? Jack - -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Notaro To: Patti Parlette ; Joni List ; treegreen1@hotmail.com Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 8:10 am Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose Couldn't agree more, Patti. Made the Tavis interview look like the Frost/Nixon series. He kept wanting a snappy 1-2-3 answer from her and he threw off her rhythm and changed gears in mid swing. Though she did look gorgeous. A Sleepy Jerry.... > Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! > > Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a > disappointment? > > I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or much > too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was affirming > to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: > > ***** > > Brian Miller: > I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. > This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed > almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't > seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you > were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and > contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such > endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. > (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic > program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined > to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us > much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) > > ***** > > http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-jon > i-mitchell > > Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and > hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! > You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" > like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her > impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly > laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. > > Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to > watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- > that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush > administration ). > > Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." > > But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. > > Love, > > Patti P. > > NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) > > In my midnight confessions/impressions > When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it > now. > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269710 > 33 ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:20:24 +0100 From: "Marian Russell" Subject: Re: Craving simplicity What a beatiful dream, Jeannie! Like a never-ending Jonifest! Marian - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannie" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: re: Craving simplicity > My heavenly dream on earth would be that we'd all be neighbors, each with > our very own cottages nearby, but separate, from one another~~we'd all get > together~~kindred spirits who crave simplicity and all sorts of > artistry~~singing, painting, meditating, dancing like ballarinas or silly > clowns, laughing and crying, it doesn't matter, it's all the same release, > with an agreement to disagree most graciously! > With one love, one heart, beating to the rhythm of the Universe! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:29:33 +0100 From: "Marian Russell" Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose I haven't been able to see it yet, as the video has still not been posted. However, when I first went to the site to try to find it, one of the things that came up rather prominently as an option was an interview of Jewel. I don't really know her or her music, but since she has been compared to Joni in the past, I thought it might be interesting to watch it, so I did. Something that struck me about him was a seeming lack of personability - he didn't seem to engage with her or appear to be interested in her at all. He just seemed to read off pre-prepared questions, and then ordered her to read one poem from her book, and then he asked her to read another one, and then he asked her to read another one, and that was pretty much it. The poems he asked her to read were listed on a sheet of paper. It all seemed very mechanical. So I'm just wondering if maybe he's like this with everyone? Marian - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose >I was also disappointed by this interview.? Way too short (about 12-13 >minutes if I'm not mistaken), and Charlie seemed like he would rather be at >the dentist.? I sat through 45 minutes of bather about the fall line up for >this? > > Jack > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Notaro > To: Patti Parlette ; Joni List ; > treegreen1@hotmail.com > Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 8:10 am > Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose > > > > Couldn't agree more, Patti. Made the Tavis interview look like the > Frost/Nixon series. He kept wanting a snappy 1-2-3 answer from her and he > threw off her rhythm and changed gears in mid swing. Though she did look > gorgeous. > > A Sleepy Jerry.... > > >> Happy Friday, tout le Jonimonde! >> >> Am I the only one who thought this interview was kind of a portrait of a >> disappointment? >> >> I thought it was just me (maybe it's paranoia, maybe it's sensitivity, or >> much >> too much desire, sitting up waiting for my sugar to show), so it was >> affirming >> to read the following on charlierose.com this November morn: >> >> ***** >> >> Brian Miller: >> I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. >> This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed >> almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't >> seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you >> were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and >> contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such >> endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. >> (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic >> program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined >> to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us >> much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) >> >> ***** >> >> http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-jon >> i-mitchell >> >> Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your >> notes and >> hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little >> interest! >> You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get >> her" >> like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up >> her >> impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly >> laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. >> >> Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to >> watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- >> that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush >> administration ). >> >> Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." >> >> But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. >> >> Love, >> >> Patti P. >> >> NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) >> >> In my midnight confessions/impressions >> When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. >> Get it >> now. >> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269710 >> 33 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:54:16 -0600 From: "Donna Binkley" Subject: Re: Suze's review and kay's cd and thanks NJC Jenny I was going to write you off list today but here you are so I'll just tell the whole world once again. Your new cd is just wonderful. Folks don't kick me out for saying this but Jenny is my new Joni these days. I listen to her more than anyone else. I also listen to her "old" cd just as much. That would be the one that I burned from her website where she first posted her unofficially recorded tunes. I guess you could say I have one of the only Jenny Goodspeed bootlegs. You can find them for sale at my blog on Ebay. JUST KIDDING JENNY!!! But seriously, great tunes bud. Look forward to seeing you at fest next year. Love db >>> "Jenny Goodspeed" 11/15/2007 12:52 PM >>> Suze, I love it. The Dream Flat Tires tour. Perfect! Well I can review the show - it was a crazy good time and the room was packed with fabulous people and Donna the Texas Tush herself made a surprise visit and Kerry came and I tried to convince her to come back to fest. I hope it worked. It was also about 100 degrees and I was so drenched in sweat my thumb pick wouldn't stay on. Oh and I performed next to a life size cutout of Xena: Warrior Princess. By the way, Suze is the most gracious (and hilarious) hostess. My thanks to her for letting us crash at her beautiful house and basically take it over. I even left cookies crumbs in her bed. Good lord. Thanks Suze, Kay, Anita, Marian, and Bob for the kind reviews. People are going to start thinking you all are getting a cut of the profits! Bob, I laughed out loud when I imagined sharing the stage with Joni. How would I hold my guitar while bowing at her feet? Love sitting next to her in your carousel though! I've heard one rough track off Kay's CD and it's gorgeous - ethereal, transcendent. I can't wait to hear the whole thing. Jenny On 11/15/07, Sue Cameron wrote: > > Hope everyone is doing well. Kay Ashley, great to read your post, I > always look forward to seeing what you are up to. I agree, too, with your > insistance of the purchase of Jenny's CD! I still need to post my review > of her great shows while traveling the midwest on the "You Dream Flat > Tires" tour. > > Suze > > n.p. Jenny Goodspeed, S-Curve Roads ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:31:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannie Subject: Re: Joni on Charlie Rose Thanks for bringing up for us what Mr. Brian Miller wrote on the Charlie Rose.com, Patti. He was right on, concerning those blah, blah, blah, bumbling prime time channel season television show executives. So boring and they sounded off as tinkling cymbals and pounding brass, even though I wasn't listening. They were just there in front of my face. They put me in a bad mood and I was saying out loud, "Shut the freaking hell up, already--I can't take these fluffy-wuffy bull crap conversations over my television set as I'm waiting for Joni to come on!" I mean, are there actually intelliegent folk out there who view Charlie Rose's show as better than most, only to listen to who's doing what and what is going on, on ABC, NBC and CBS? I thought, "Is Charlie Rose genius enough to put these blabbering men right before Joni, just as a contrast, between the shadows and the lights? Or is he oblivious to it all?" Charlie Rose seemed to be right at home with those guys and out of touch with our Joan. She mentally hesitated a couple of times with his weird energy towards her. Maybe he doesn't get it?! I thought he was more intelligent than that! Obviously, not the way I thought he was! And last night he proved it. Maybe he was intimidated with Joni's ultimate grace that flows with Nature and not the Fall TV show ratings. Jeannie ***** Brian Miller: I have been a fan of most of your shows for over thirteen years now. This evening's interview with Artist Joni Mitchell however seemed almost a slap in the face, both to her and to your viewers. It didn't seem to me as though the interview was at all well prepared or that you were sincerely interested or informed as to her accomplishments and contributions to the art form. So very little, preceeded by such endless blatherng on about the Fall television line up. (I mean really -- who cares?) What a truly bizarre and somehow ironic program. Just the sort of thing Ms. Mitchell might have been inclined to write or sing about at one time in her career. (Tavis Smiley gave us much more of Ms. Mitchell on Nov. 9, for those who are interested.) ***** http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/11/15/2/a-conversation-with-musician-joni-mitchell Yeah, Charlie, why'd ya have to be so jive? You kept looking at your notes and hardly connected with Joni at all, it seemed. HELLO! Show a little interest! You're sitting with a genius and you don't even know it. You don't "get her" like Tavis does. Surely Joni felt that vibe, because she kept twisting up her impossibly gentle hands into knots and covering her mouth. And she hardly laughed at all. I could feel her discomfort. Maybe it wasn't that bad; it was very late when I walked in. I'll have to watch it again. Pardonnez-moi for being critical and negative on this -- that's so "not me" (except for, of course, when it comes to the Bush administration ). Oh well. As she said: "You can't please 'em all." But she pleases *us*! And herself. And that's what counts. Love, Patti P. NPIMH (sorry, Bob!) In my midnight confessions/impressions When I tell all the world that I love you, Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. 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Here's a set of the best golf clubs made just for you. Focus on your golf game, now. Forget about horses." I didn't like to play golf and wouldn't listen to my golfing teacher. I was pissed I was born a girl and would tell him I'd ride to one side like Annie Oakley. The answer was, "NO!" Eventually, heartbroken, I forgot about horses and fell in love with my own Golden Reggie. But, my heart still belongs to the horses, here on holy earth, first and foremost, and not the boys. Jeannie nj ' - --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:05:41 -0800 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: Joni on Charlie Rose Well, I hope no one fell asleep waiting for our dear Joan! I had taped it and watched it this morning. First he had on several TV critics to talk about what's on TV right now, successful shows, etc. Heavens, it went on and on and they all talked over each other! Joni looked great (I think wearing Issey) but basically it was the same conversation she had with Tavis, what she'd been doing for 10 years, how Jean convinced her to do the ballet, Herbie's album of her songs, her childhood diseases and near-death experiences, etc. I think Charlie is used to fast paced banter because he seemed to want to jump in and finish Joni's sentences when she'd pause to reflect on an answer. Nice clips of her performing and some of the ballet. Enjoyable nonetheless and glad she's getting "face time" even though it is at midnight. Lindsay ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #462 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------