From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #434 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, October 29 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 434 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- feminism NJC ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: David Leavitt [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: David Leavitt [Victor Johnson ] Re: Eagles' "Long Road Out Of Eden", njc [Bob Muller ] NJC But read if you can... [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: feminism NJC [Monika Bogdanowicz ] TV alert Nov.4 ["Barbara Stewart" ] Re: NJC But read if you can... [Victor Johnson ] re: David Leavitt now njc [Garret ] Re: feminism NJC [Em ] Re: NJC But read if you can... [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Great quote on Joni! [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: really low notes [Michel BYRNE ] Joni Mitchell Taught Your Cold English Wife To Feel [est86mlm@ameritech.n] Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! ["Randy Remote" ] Joni on CBS Sunday Morning 11/4/07 [M C ] RE: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! ["Richard Flynn" ] HISSING of S L demos!!!!! ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: Eagles. NJC [rian afriadi ] Re: Smoking On The Water NJC [rian afriadi ] Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! ["Jerry Notaro" ] Joni Sunday Morning ["Mike & Alice Hicks" ] Joni Smokes in Bed... ["Christopher Treacy" ] RE: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! ["Randy Remote" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:46:10 -0500 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: feminism NJC Joni converted me to feminism with Don't Interrupt The Sorrow. "Inflamed are prophet witches, be polite." But I had never been a man hater until Bush/Cheney foisted their megalomania upon our already severely sick planet. I am among the 35% of Americans polled who believe that these neocon bastards let 9/11 happen in order to fulfill their apocalyptic nightmares. Please don't get me wrong. I still adore Jesus even more than I do Joni. Actually Jesus is the greatest example of feminism in human history. Turn the other cheek and consider the Gospel. My favorite story is when a bunch of self-righteous men were in the process of stoning a woman to death for committing adultery. He disarmed them simply by stating: "He among you without sin, let him cast the first stone." And when Mary Magdalene broke into the room to anoint his feet with her oil and tears Jesus rebuked the priests who objected to a woman being present by saying that she was holier than any one of them. Too bad so few have grasped this crucial attitude for thousands of years worshipping their own egos. I don't know what is a bigger problem: the love of money or testosterone! ET "Men love war. Is that what God is for?" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:08:39 +1100 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: David Leavitt Great story, Jerry. I'll have to check out his writings. Nice to click with someone on a Joni level. BTW what does UF stand for? Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:22:41 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: David Leavitt On Oct 28, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > Great story, Jerry. I'll have to check out his writings. Nice to > click with someone on a Joni level. BTW what does UF stand for? UF= University of Florida UGA= University of Georgia UCLA= University of California at Los Angeles etc.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:41:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Eagles' "Long Road Out Of Eden", njc They wouldn't. Bob NP: Me'Shell Ndegeocello, "Faithful" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:03:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: The Spice Girls -- NJC - --- rian afriadi wrote: > Catherine wrote: > >>>Weren't they a "created" band, not unlike, say, > NSync > or > the Spice Girls, chosen for their pretty faces as > much as for their musical > talents? > > Hahaha. Gotta make a confession: I love Spice > Girls.. My daughter was a big fan as were all the young girls (and some of the boys too) back then. I've got nothing against the Spice Girls. They're good fun. It's hard to know how talented they really are if they're a manufactured band and I guess maybe I'm just being snobbish about that anyway, but I'm just thinking along the lines of "You've got to pay your dues if you want to sing the blues." For one thing, they're not singing the blues and none of us really know whether they paid their dues or not. Any of these people could have been working really hard without anyone noticing. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: NJC But read if you can... Hey guys. I just wanted to let you know I might not be posting too much the next few days. My home computer crashed (the joys of a virus) so if you don't see me here, that is why. I can only access a computer now at work or at the library. Hopefully, very hopefully, this'll get fixed on Monday or so. Only God knows. -Monika "We all come and go unknown..." Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:58:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: feminism NJC But not all men are so driven by testosterone that it makes them violent or crazy. I could never be a feminist. I'm for all people, not one gender or another. You know what? I actually get along better with males than females. Most of my friends are guys. -Monika "We all come and go unknown..." Eric Taylor wrote: Joni converted me to feminism with Don't Interrupt The Sorrow. "Inflamed are prophet witches, be polite." But I had never been a man hater until Bush/Cheney foisted their megalomania upon our already severely sick planet. I am among the 35% of Americans polled who believe that these neocon bastards let 9/11 happen in order to fulfill their apocalyptic nightmares. Please don't get me wrong. I still adore Jesus even more than I do Joni. Actually Jesus is the greatest example of feminism in human history. Turn the other cheek and consider the Gospel. My favorite story is when a bunch of self-righteous men were in the process of stoning a woman to death for committing adultery. He disarmed them simply by stating: "He among you without sin, let him cast the first stone." And when Mary Magdalene broke into the room to anoint his feet with her oil and tears Jesus rebuked the priests who objected to a woman being present by saying that she was holier than any one of them. Too bad so few have grasped this crucial attitude for thousands of years worshipping their own egos. I don't know what is a bigger problem: the love of money or testosterone! ET "Men love war. Is that what God is for?" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:17:36 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: TV alert Nov.4 A week or so ago, someone on the list alerted us to a profile of Joni on the US CBS stn, "Sunday Morning", at 9am Eastern time. Well they were only off on the date. At the end of this morning's show it was announced that she will be profiled next week - Sunday Nov.4. TIVOs on! B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:23:12 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: NJC But read if you can... On Oct 28, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Hopefully, very hopefully, this'll get fixed on Monday or so. > Only God knows. > -Monika > God uses an imac. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:27:18 +0000 From: Garret Subject: re: David Leavitt now njc Hey Jerry, that is very cool. I read Lost Language of Cranes last month. A friend lent it to me saying he has become obsessed with this author. I typically don't enjoy the books that this friend gives me (that's been a pretty stable fact for about twelve years). I liked the cover. I read the book and was bowled over, i really enjoyed it. I'll add Indian Clerk to my list. GARRET NP- Devendra Banhart, Shabop Shalom Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:39:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: David Leavitt Today we had the huge Times Festival of Reading on our campus. I hosted and introduced author David Leavitt, a gay author who has written many bestsellers including The Lost Language of Cranes and While England Sleeps. His new book, Indian Clerk, is a great read. He is now the Director of the creative writing program at UF. As we chatted he told me he just returned from Toronto's Harborfest and somehow (!) I brought up my days of seeing Joni there. Turns out he is a HUGE Joni fan so we talked of nothing else. After I introduced to a big crowd at his presentation he remarked I was the first person he ever met was a bigger Joni Mitchell fan and knew more about her than he did. The crowd loved it! Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: feminism NJC - --- Eric Taylor wrote: > I don't know what is a bigger problem: the love of money or > testosterone! Hi Eric, its a mystery, for sure. But a t-roneless world would be pretty boring, I think. I doubt we would have rock and roll without t-rone. But yeah, it seems nature did allow the human males to grow disproportionately physically powerful. And physical power became absolute power. Now, thankfully, that's been whittled away at somewhat, but still...... Em "You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm." Sidonie Gabrielle Colette ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: NJC But read if you can... He uses an imac? Then I'm screwed. -Monika, currently at work P.S. You can thank my brother for the virus on our computer. He always has to look at Chinese porn (only kidding!). Victor Johnson wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > Hopefully, very hopefully, this'll get fixed on Monday or so. > Only God knows. > -Monika > God uses an imac. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Great quote on Joni! "She has the courage to express what she really feels and believes in," he said. "She's not afraid to openly voice her viewpoint on the crises of the era ... and she does it in such a beautiful and imaginative way. ... And so as a humanitarian, Joni Mitchell really reflects her belief in the dignity of human life and its relationship to our environment." -Herbie Hancock I love that! -Monika "We all come and go unknown..." Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:35:55 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: Re: really low notes Night Ride Home must be around there somewhere too ('there comes a night like this') - that was the first song that made me totally fall for her low voice. And how about the '(at) all' of the orchestral BSN (or was that in the list? sorry cant see it right now, and cant check what these notes are either). These totally send me! Having said that, and though i'm no fan of Joni's Helium voice, the clarity and effortless command of her voice at the time of Hissing (easier to notice on the uncluttered demos) is really breathtaking. _________________________________________________________________ Celeb spotting  Play CelebMashup and win cool prizes https://www.celebmashup.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:18:34 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni Mitchell Taught Your Cold English Wife To Feel From Love Actually. Check out the movie-clip (Yes, it's Joni related) You'll have to watch the "commercial" before the movie-clip starts. http://www.ifilm.com/video/2480114 Enjoy! Laura ~~~~~~~WARNING!~~~~~~~~~~~ (No Joni content below) FREEBIE: Free Kahiki meal . Your first coupon is for a free product and you will receive it in the next 2-4 weeks http://www.kahiki.com/mealoffer/ Free Taco Tuesday: Visit your local Taco Bell between 2p.m. and 5p.m. 10/30/2007 to get yours http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fan_forum/tacobell/ Win eBay Gift Certificates (play every day): http://shopvictoriously.ebay.com/ns/LandingPage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:04:39 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! From: "Michel BYRNE" > Guys, dont know if youre all aware of this already, but HofSL demos can be > downloaded (for free) at > http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html > This version does not have the noise reduction that was applied to the version that has been circulating. The NR was unneccesary and muffled the high end. This bigozine version is a sonic upgrade, IMO. Thanks for posting. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:24:31 -0700 (PDT) From: M C Subject: Joni on CBS Sunday Morning 11/4/07 This morning on the CBS Sunday Morning television show they announced that next week (11/4/07) they will air a segment about Joni Mitchell. The show is on from 9:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. EST, check your local listings. The CBS website mentions nothing at this point, that I can find. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:11:18 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! Randy, This version is taken from a version I've long had. I'll send you the lossless version (in .flac) and then post the url here in case anyone else wants it without the .mp3 compression. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Randy Remote Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:05 PM To: Michel BYRNE; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! From: "Michel BYRNE" > Guys, dont know if youre all aware of this already, but HofSL demos can be > downloaded (for free) at > http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html > This version does not have the noise reduction that was applied to the version that has been circulating. The NR was unneccesary and muffled the high end. This bigozine version is a sonic upgrade, IMO. Thanks for posting. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:54:29 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! OK, sent to Randy. If anyone else wants this lossless, here it is: http://download.yousendit.com/C81DA8A411135478 If you don't know what flac is, you can go here: http://flac.sourceforge.net/ Wikipedia info on flac here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Richard Flynn Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:11 PM To: 'Randy Remote'; 'Michel BYRNE'; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! Randy, This version is taken from a version I've long had. I'll send you the lossless version (in .flac) and then post the url here in case anyone else wants it without the .mp3 compression. Richard - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Randy Remote Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:05 PM To: Michel BYRNE; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! From: "Michel BYRNE" > Guys, dont know if youre all aware of this already, but HofSL demos can be > downloaded (for free) at > http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html > This version does not have the noise reduction that was applied to the version that has been circulating. The NR was unneccesary and muffled the high end. This bigozine version is a sonic upgrade, IMO. Thanks for posting. RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:41:28 -0700 (PDT) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: Eagles. NJC Catherine wrote: What if they were playing for free? ;-) Catherine Well, maybe i'll just listen to them, maybe i can put some harmony Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:51:25 -0700 (PDT) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: Smoking On The Water NJC I always think that something that is too extreme is always bad. Rian NP. Chrisye -- Kala Surya Tenggelam (When The Sun Drowned) soon will play -- Fiona Apple - Extraordinary Machine Eric wrote: How very true! Here in Pittsburgh, PA "THEY" tried to pass the no-smoking law sweeping our precious planet. I was proud that my hometown rejected it on the grounds that we have long had smoking and non-smoking bars and restaurants. In my second home, upstate NY, "THEY" passed the obnoxious smoking ban several years ago but now allow businesses who can prove a 40% drop in business to allow smoking in their establishments. Oh the insanity of humanity! This reminds me of a recent 5/4 US Supreme Court ruling to outlaw medicinal marijuana. The out-of-touch justices argued that there has never been a case when inhaling smoke has been used before to treat illness. These are the same A-holes who put W in power fully knowing that Al won the election. There is something seriously wrong with U.S. and I increasingly understand why so many people believe that we are the Great Satan. Sorry for being so blunt with my opinions but Joni continues to be my most influential teacher. And I feel SO blessed!!! Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! Very, very nice, Richard. I have the demos in all of their incarnations, and these are great. They sound unbelievable on my home system. You've sold me on flac files. I've avoided them because of the iTunes incompatibility, but I really don't play with iTunes, just store and retrieve, so it isn't a problem. And Toast burns them perfectly. BTW, Hissing is David Leavitt's favorite Joni album so I'm going to send him a copy. Jerry Richard Flynn wrote: > OK, sent to Randy. If anyone else wants this lossless, here it is: > > http://download.yousendit.com/C81DA8A411135478 > > If you don't know what flac is, you can go here: > > http://flac.sourceforge.net/ > > > Wikipedia info on flac here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Richard > Flynn > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:11 PM > To: 'Randy Remote'; 'Michel BYRNE'; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! > > Randy, > This version is taken from a version I've long had. > > I'll send you the lossless version (in .flac) and then post the url here > in > case anyone else wants it without the .mp3 compression. > > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Randy > Remote > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:05 PM > To: Michel BYRNE; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! > > From: "Michel BYRNE" >> Guys, dont know if youre all aware of this already, but HofSL demos can >> be >> downloaded (for free) at >> http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARjmseeding.html >> > > This version does not have the noise reduction that was > applied to the version that has been circulating. The NR > was unneccesary and muffled the high end. > This bigozine version is a sonic upgrade, IMO. > Thanks for posting. > RR ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:53:53 -0400 From: "Mike & Alice Hicks" Subject: Joni Sunday Morning I just saw on my favorite show, Sunday Morning, that Joni will be the musical feature next Sunday 11/4. Set your recorders. This should be good. Mike(S.C.) NP: Stellastar-Lost In Time ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:50:13 -0400 From: "Christopher Treacy" Subject: Joni Smokes in Bed... .like we didn't already know. Ha! Hope this isn't old news - if it is, oh well. Link to video on Vanity Fair website - Annie Leibowitz folk portfolio. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/video/2007/folkportfolio_video200 711 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:34:18 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! Glad to hear it, Jerry. And David Leavitt should absolutely have them. Now for a lo-fi offering: my band played at the Landrum Dining hall this past Thursday. A student in the audience was videotaping and he put this very dark video on youtube, YOU can barely see me at all. But you can hear my Dobro and the harmony vocals I do near the end of the song (Mississippi John Hurt's "My Creole Belle": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMvYPGF29u4 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Notaro Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:14 PM To: Richard Flynn Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! Very, very nice, Richard. I have the demos in all of their incarnations, and these are great. They sound unbelievable on my home system. You've sold me on flac files. I've avoided them because of the iTunes incompatibility, but I really don't play with iTunes, just store and retrieve, so it isn't a problem. And Toast burns them perfectly. BTW, Hissing is David Leavitt's favorite Joni album so I'm going to send him a copy. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:00:53 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: HISSING of S L demos!!!!! Thanks for all the flac(s) Richard! It's great to get two upgrades of this material in two days. Check it out, folks. RR From: "Richard Flynn" > OK, sent to Randy. If anyone else wants this lossless, here it is: > http://download.yousendit.com/C81DA8A411135478 > If you don't know what flac is, you can go here: > http://flac.sourceforge.net/ > Wikipedia info on flac here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #434 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------