From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #426 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, October 24 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 426 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: SoCal fires (njc) [Michael Paz ] Shine (on the hopeful girl in the dreamy dress) ["Eric Taylor" ] Re: Shine/JC [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC Issa ! ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Re: BYT (2007) [Bob Muller ] Re: BYT (2007) [Victor Johnson ] Re: BYT (2007) NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] NJC Wildfires....Shine on us [Dave Blackburn ] Re: NJC Wildfires....Shine on us ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re: BYT (2007) NJC [waytoblue@comcast.net] more Issa / Siberry - tour sked (NJC) ["Barbara Stewart" ] NJC (except obliquely) - march against the war(s) ["Barbara Stewart" ] Re: BYT (2007) NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: BYT (2007) NJC [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Fwd: ISSA NASHVILLE CONCERT live streaming w/"listen again" option (NJC) ["Barbara Stewart" ] posting songs into jmdl guitar site ["Marian Russell" ] Re: Vancouver and environs - Sechelt [Michael Paz ] Re: Vancouver and environs - Sechelt [Catherine McKay ] Re: SoCal fires (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Jesca Hoop NJC [kjhsf@aol.com] Q: Burning from iTunes, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Q: Burning from iTunes, njc ["Jerry Notaro" ] Joni In Vanity Fair ["Jerry Notaro" ] Re:Re: Another English Lesson [rian afriadi ] Joni on Adult Alternative...trivial.. [Monika Bogdanowicz ] Re: sjc, no Nobel Joni this year NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: BYT (2007) ["Eric Taylor" ] Neil Young Bonus Track [Bob Muller ] RE: sjc, no Nobel Joni this year NJC [Patti Parlette ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:29:50 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: SoCal fires (njc) Wow Kakki I just turned on the TV and have been listening to the horrors. I have been unplugged for a few days. I hope for the best for everybody over there. It looks really frightening. Was thinking about a trek tomorrow but there mat not be enough time. Can't wait to see you and the gang. Hang in there. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 22, 2007, at 11:29 PM, wrote: Just wanted to say I hope our SoCal listers are doing O.K. I am especially worried about Lindsay in San Diego and Lesli in Topanga and anyone else who may be having to endure this nightmare. The San Diego fires are especially horrific, something like 250,000 people evalucated out of very few roads. San Diego North County was my second home for the better part of 20 years. I can't quite process the reports I am hearing about so many places I used to spend time in over the years. They say this is the worst in Calif. history. There are no good answers - except maybe going underground with utilities and building something like the concrete houses they have in Florida now. Still, we are at the mercy of the elements here and this, unfortunately, has been the "perfect storm." I am so sad at the losses and hardship in the areas that are affected. The media never quite conveys how bad it really is. If anyone in the areas need any assistance, please let me know. Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:32:52 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Shine (on the hopeful girl in the dreamy dress) Mike & Alice Hicks ask: >> does anyone think that in the title song "Shine on a hopeful girl in a dreamy dress" may have been referring to Joni herself? I get the feeling by looking at the picture on the page of the girl in the cd booklet that it is Joni standing there in her dancing attire. As soon as I heard this I got this eerie feeling of what all she could have meant by that line. And, I just wondered why she chose that picture to put in the booklet. I feel very strongly on this one. Does anyone else agree? << Absolutely! This a reoccurring theme in many of my fave Joni songs. May I say that it is SO good to hear from ye Joni lovers coming back to chime in on SHINE?! So where is Julie Z when you really need her? ;~D Seriously. The JMDL seems a lot friendlier than it did in the days of TTT, BSN and Travelogue (when too many of the die-hard Joni lovers jumped ship). And thank you Kakki for reminding us to be concerned for millions of people in southern California suffering the consequences of severe global warming. Jeez it is ugly (all over the planet) but hopefully people are finally beginning to WAKE UP! THANK YOU JONI MITCHELL for coming out of retirement to address our severely sad state with such incredible beauty!!! ET $ you see those lovely hills $ they won't be there for long $ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:51:35 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Bad Dreams, Good Dreams Hi everyone. An odd thing happened today. I hardly ever remember my dreams and I never got into dream analysis either but I distinctly remember not one but two dreams I had last night. They are still so vivid in my memory. One had to do with my Nursing career but the other was that Joni's second CD for Hear Music/Starbucks was released. I was holding it in my hand in a store. It turns out that it is an EP not a full album. About 5 tracks or so. One track is a reworking of one of the Shine tracks. I think it was This Place. There are also some new tracks on it, possibly from the Shine recording sessions. The cover was a close up of Joni's face, possibly a painting. Yes, I think it was a painting. Like the self portraits on other album covers but without the frame. It's almost like the portrait on Clouds but present day face. Kind of earth tone colours with her wheat coloured hair, on a sunny day. I know, this all sounds very specific but I've never had a dream so clear before. Very weird. The other dream, for those who are interested was also very detailed. For some reason, I was in a nursing home (possibly for a job interview) but there were hardly any staff around and I was horrified by the condition of the place. There were old people in their beds with gaping ulcers and poorly dressed broken limbs. There was only one poorly trained Nurse (male) tending to one patient with an ulcer and doing a bad job of dressing it. I couldn't just stand there and do nothing so, I jumped in to help. He had no idea of how to dress the wound so I asked for some clean bandages and pads and sterile water. Then I was distracted by all the other patients in severe discomfort so, I went off to try to help them. That was it. That was the dream. Two very detailed dreams in one night. I still can see the cover of Joni's EP. I didn't catch the title of the CD though. Mark in dreamy Sydney NP Tea Leaf Prophect (River version) - Herbie Hancock with JM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:29:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Shine/JC Hiya Mike, and welcome back. Shine is bringing back quite a few folks. Are you still in Aiken? As for the picture, I'm not sure of its significance but I also find it very haunting and interesting. It reminds me of the photos that hipgnosis did for some of the Led Zep, 10CC and Pink Floyd records. Like there's a story there and you don't know what it is. Bob NP: Sufjan Stevens, "Come on, Feel the Illinoise" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:37:49 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: Re: NJC Issa ! A Texas souvenir ! How exotic. I was making a CD compilation fro my friend yesterday, and I included the classic "The bluest eyes in Texas" very nice, indeed. Come in come in, come in from the Cold Jeannie :-) Bless ! Oddmund On 10/22/07, Jeannie wrote: > > I love Jane Siberry's, 'Dancing Class.' > I was into, 'No Borders Here,' in the mid-80's. > I should surely love to hear Issa's later stuff soon here again. > > Maybe I'll get into another Joni juke box dive, 'dancing class,' with Issa > after the joni letters. > > Oddmund, my cousin is in from Oslo because of her father's passing. > If you or Marion want a Texas souvenir, let me know by tomorrow. > > Here, in San Antonio, a cold front finally came through and I'm rolled up > like a ball, typing with one finger. This weather feels so fine and the > creatures are so calm, except for my Italian Greyhound snooping around the > Saltillo tile, looking for something, what can it be? Maybe pecans. > Take care. > > Truly, > Jeannie > > > > > > *Barbara Stewart * wrote: > > >She quit realising CD's some years ago, > and when I was asking for her CD's in one secindhand shop and > a good musi shop in Oslo, they had NOTHING! > Shame, but we can get downloads from Sheeba.ca ( > http://sheeba.ca/ ) > except,some of the > downloads are only available to those of you living in the US and Canada. > Best and love from a Children's librarian and musiclover in Norway! > Oddmund > > Also a librarian, Oddmund! > Barnes Noble and Amazon here in the US both have Siberry CDs still for > sale. > Try Amazon UK or other European sites.... > B > > > > from : > Barbara L.Stewart, MLS > Library - Sesame Workshop > 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA > tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 > barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org > > "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that > matter." - ML King > > > > > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *nj* > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:42:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: BYT (2007) Unless you count Todd Rundgren (whose "Liars" is still one of my favorite albums of the century). He could (and does) perform this task with ease. Prince does it all the time too - his new record is killer. That doesn't take anything away from Joni's feats on Shine. I love it as you do, Eric. Bob NP: The Beatles, "Can't Buy Me Love" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:53:46 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: BYT (2007) On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:42 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > let alone play all the instruments? > Answer: none.> > > Unless you count Todd Rundgren (whose "Liars" is still one of my > favorite albums of the century). He could (and does) perform this > task with ease. > > Prince does it all the time too - his new record is killer. > > That doesn't take anything away from Joni's feats on Shine. I > love it as you do, Eric. > > Bob And count in Stevie Wonder who played almost all the instruments on albums like "Innervisions". Joni's great yes but she doesn't live in vacuum. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:11:06 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: BYT (2007) NJC Stevie came to mind; however Eric threw in the caveat "today" and Innervisions was over 30 years ago. I'm not sure if Stevie is still in "do-it-all mode these days. I didn't pick up his latest when it was pretty much given a lukewarm reception. Bob NP: Led Zepellin, "When The Levee Breaks" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:58:50 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: NJC Wildfires....Shine on us Dear Joni friends, Well, our home and my studio are surrounded by huge wildfires in Fallbrook CA, actually within a few hundred yards. The whole town has been evacuated so I'm writing from a hotel with all our possessions stuffed into two cars. The whole of Southern California is in the same boat; it really is a major catastrophe. The roads are all blocked by police so we can't get near home to see if it's still there for maybe a few more days. Wasn't planning on being homeless this year.... We are safe but there are 300,000 evacuees in San Diego alone and L.A/ Riverside has its own refugee population crammed into sports stadiums etc. Shine on us.... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:23:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: NJC Wildfires....Shine on us David, Your Joni friends are there for you. Let us know what we can do for you and your family. Jerry Dave Blackburn wrote: > Dear Joni friends, > Well, our home and my studio are surrounded by huge wildfires in > Fallbrook CA, actually within a few hundred yards. The whole town has > been evacuated so I'm writing from a hotel with all our possessions > stuffed into two cars. The whole of Southern California is in the > same boat; it really is a major catastrophe. > The roads are all blocked by police so we can't get near home to see > if it's still there for maybe a few more days. Wasn't planning on > being homeless this year.... > > We are safe but there are 300,000 evacuees in San Diego alone and L.A/ > Riverside has its own refugee population crammed into sports stadiums > etc. > > Shine on us.... > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:33:50 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: BYT (2007) NJC -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > albums like "Innervisions". > > > Stevie came to mind; however Eric threw in the caveat "today" and > Innervisions was over 30 years ago. I'm not sure if Stevie is still in > "do-it-all mode these days. I didn't pick up his latest when it was pretty > much given a lukewarm reception. Fair enough. However, the statement also said, how many artists "could" write such a catchy tune and play all the instruments. I'm sure if Stevie wanted to, he could easily do the do-it-all today as I would imagine there are several musicians who could. The ability to play several instruments is certainly not something unique to Joni. I also wonder about the seemingly constant need to compare her to other artists to justify how good she is. Why can't she just be great period without being put in any context? Victor NP: Neil Young "Ordinary People" ....scorching! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:38:54 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: more Issa / Siberry - tour sked (NJC) US & Cdn tour dates thru Dec here - take a look if she's coming near you and give her a listen.... http://www.flemingartists.com/artists/itineraries/js-itin.html B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: NJC Wildfires....Shine on us Dave, my thoughts are with you all out there who have had to leave your homes. How very frightening that must be. I hope your property is spared. Em - --- Dave Blackburn wrote: > Dear Joni friends, > Well, our home and my studio are surrounded by huge wildfires in > Fallbrook CA, actually within a few hundred yards. The whole town has > > been evacuated so I'm writing from a hotel with all our possessions > stuffed into two cars. The whole of Southern California is in the > same boat; it really is a major catastrophe. > The roads are all blocked by police so we can't get near home to see > > if it's still there for maybe a few more days. Wasn't planning on > being homeless this year.... > > We are safe but there are 300,000 evacuees in San Diego alone and > L.A/ > Riverside has its own refugee population crammed into sports stadiums > > etc. > > Shine on us.... > > Dave > "You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm." Sidonie Gabrielle Colette ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:03:15 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: NJC (except obliquely) - march against the war(s) Those who listened to "Shine", who saw aspects of her mixed media art show, read interviews, know that one of the primary reasons Joni Mitchell came out of 'retirement' was her frustration and anger at the current situation of war and aggression in the world. So I don't think I am being transgressive in adding this message to the mix of communications shared on the list. I'm going to ask you to make a stand, not stand aside. (See the bottom of my email for details.) The US invasion & occupation of Iraq and its aftermath continue, now a longer war for the US than WWI or II. Billions of dollars are squandered on death and destruction every month. And the bellicosity and overt threats of the administration against Iran have increased in pace and volume over the past 3 months, equivalent and eerily reminiscent of the months preceding the Iraq Shock & Awe campaign. The situation is serious, very dangerous, imminent. Anyone who has empathy for the suffering of the Iraqi people, who can imagine the impact of bombing campaigns over Iran, who can place themselves in their shoes, must arouse themselves out of their apathy or fear or bystander status and make their opposition known. The vote in November wasn't enough, the constant lobbying of Congress hasn't been enough. As with Vietnam, the only thing that has a hope of affecting policy in any way is a truly massive unprecedented mobilization of visible bodies on the streets. Only when massive numbers of citizens take themselves out of their normal patterns and do the unusual - peacefully standing, marching on the streets demanding to be heard - will our politicians begin to wonder if they can continue to defy majority popular opinion on this issue. So I urge you, beg you, to think about taking one afternoon out of your lives to try to make a difference, joining with 100s of thousands of others similarly motivated. This Saturday, Oct. 27 , there is a coordinated series of 11 ++ marches being held right across the country, organized by all sorts of community groups under the umbrella of UFPJ, to call for an end to the war and no attacks on Iran. Go to www.oct27.org for local plans - just click on the city closest to you. NYC, LA, New Orleans, Chicago, Seattle, Boston, Jonesborough TN, Orlando, Philadelphia, Salt Lake City, San Francisco, etc. (from memory). And more. I am very much involved in the antiwar mvmt, now as I was in the 60s. It's a matter of life and death and calls for your participation. B from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:06:18 +0700 (ICT) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re: Re: Malaysian "Shine" <<<>> Malaysia is always sensitive about their culture.. And showing off your butt is definitely not Malaysian culture. When i said Malaysia is always sensitive, i really meant it. A few weeks ago, they freaked Beyonce out (or Beyonces management). Beyonce is too sexy for them.. So the management canceled the tour, and replaced it to Jakarta. Yipeee!!! <<<< and they are hyper aware of CD piracy. High-street shops will have the little hologram sticker on it.>>>> We, Indonesian, do it too.. Hologram stickers are everywhere. The album cover is also tattooed with piracy is a crime. And as if it was not enough, sometimes they add a religious decree that says piracy is haram. Ironically, the pirated CDs also have that too. Legal CDs are priced at 70.000 rupiahs (slightly less than $8). While the pirated CDs are priced at Rp.5000 (about 60 US cents). And if you buy 10, you get 1 for free. MP3s are crazier. A CD of MP3s (thats 14 albums) priced at Rp.5000 DVDs? Same. The demand for pirated CDs is huge. Local pirates cannot supply all the demand. So they import some of them from China, Thailand, Vietnam, and Malaysia. How do i know? I talked to them. Yeah sometimes i shop too. God, forgive me. But strangely, you cant find pirated Joni CDs here.. NP. Joni. Urge For Going. (hey, my Joni CDs are legal!) Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo..com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:20:43 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: BYT (2007) NJC I don't see any harm in that, really. While I can appreciate a good singer or a good musician, I put on a higher pedestal someone who composes, writes lyrics, arranges, plays multi-instruments, produces and even paints the covers for good measure. I think another barometer is longevity - while there have been lots of great onesie & twosie artists, there are far fewer who have been actively creating for 40+ years as Joni has. Bob NP: Joni, "Morning Morgantown" (looking forward to receiving an Italian-language cover of this one this week) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Re: BYT (2007) NJC Alright, I'm glad you made that point. I was going to say that just because someone can play every instrument (not to take away anything from anyone mentioned but...) doesn't mean that the results are good. That qualifies you to be one hell of a musician, not necessarily anything else. You can be a superb musician and still write or play on a bad song. -Monika "We all come and go unknown..." Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: artists to justify how good she is. Why can't she just be great period without being put in any context?> I don't see any harm in that, really. While I can appreciate a good singer or a good musician, I put on a higher pedestal someone who composes, writes lyrics, arranges, plays multi-instruments, produces and even paints the covers for good measure. I think another barometer is longevity - while there have been lots of great onesie & twosie artists, there are far fewer who have been actively creating for 40+ years as Joni has. Bob NP: Joni, "Morning Morgantown" (looking forward to receiving an Italian-language cover of this one this week) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:38:28 -0400 From: "Barbara Stewart" Subject: Fwd: ISSA NASHVILLE CONCERT live streaming w/"listen again" option (NJC) can see her "live" online, even after the gig B From: "I S S A" To: Date: 10/22/07 11:09 PM Subject: MUSELETTER ISSA NASHVILLE CONCERT live streaming tonight! from Bluebird Club, Nashville, Tennessee 9:25 or so - Issa with Tim Ray (piano) total time = 2 hr NOTE: 9pm CENTRAL DAYLIGHT TIME / 10pm EST - - - - from the people doing the recording: "If you can't make it to the show in person, you can still see it by going on line to www.bluebirdcafesl.com and watching it in 1/ Second Life or 2/ via your browser. These shows are live, with good picture and very good audio. There is a cover charge for these performances." from : Barbara L.Stewart, MLS Library - Sesame Workshop 1 Lincoln Plaza, 4th fl, NYC, NY 10023 USA tel: 212-875-6393 fax: 212-875-7309 barbara.stewart@sesameworkshop.org "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." - ML King ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:17:31 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: BYT (2007) NJC -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > artists to justify how good she is. Why can't she just be great period > without being put in any context?> > > I don't see any harm in that, really. While I can appreciate a good singer > or a good musician, I put on a higher pedestal someone who composes, > writes lyrics, arranges, plays multi-instruments, produces and even paints > the covers for good measure. > > I think another barometer is longevity - while there have been lots of > great onesie & twosie artists, there are far fewer who have been actively > creating for 40+ years as Joni has. I would agree with all of that...she would certainly stand out in that context. It just seems like she if often talked about here as if the sun sets and rises at her command. Like statements suggesting Joni's the only one speaking up about the environment which is clearly not the case. Victor NP: Neil Young "Shining Light" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:30:04 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC California fires I am trying to follow the news about the California fires, but it's all very unspecific. I found some webcams, all I can see is that the air around LA is pretty grey. Does anyone know of any good webcams of LA? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:36:56 -0700 From: "WATTS, LESLI" Subject: RE: SoCal fires (njc) thanks for the good vibes well for us this hasn't been the worst one, in 93 the flames were 300 feet high for several miles, with high howling winds. this time, the fire only got about 1/2 a fire away. we didn't leave we never do until it's time, even with the sherriff at our door.. we sign a waiver to ignore us if the need arises and go on and save the less foolish. we have a plan in place with uor neighbors. of course 100 mile an hour winds would change all that. geez dave i hope all is ok. for us the gleeful media misinformation ang waiting are far far worse than the fires. they usually focus on some star's megabucks home and don't mention the little sweat equity shacks that 1/2 the people live in. then pete and i were having a "discussion about whether tapes or the neve modules were more important to take. i pray your studio is ok. i was set to walk away, zen and cleansed by fire. of course the longer the fire burns, all spirituality dissolves like the smoke. during the last big fire here we snuck back in on a dirt road manned by our friend fred, in arson watch. dave, can you try that? up here they keep us out for about three days. our house was standing, even though many of our neighbors weren't. a miracle. i hope you have one too. kakki said: "there are no good answers - except maybe going underground with utilities and building something like the concrete houses they have in Florida now." i totally agree, of course we know better than to live up here but we do pay dearly in insurance premiums. ________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org on behalf of kbhla@fastmail.fm Sent: Mon 10/22/2007 11:29 PM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:43:23 -0700 From: "WATTS, LESLI" Subject: RE: NJC Wildfires....Shine on us we be shining on you pete and lesli ________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org on behalf of Dave Blackburn Sent: Tue 10/23/2007 6:58 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: NJC Wildfires....Shine on us Dear Joni friends, Well, our home and my studio are surrounded by huge wildfires in Fallbrook CA, actually within a few hundred yards. The whole town has been evacuated so I'm writing from a hotel with all our possessions stuffed into two cars. The whole of Southern California is in the same boat; it really is a major catastrophe. The roads are all blocked by police so we can't get near home to see if it's still there for maybe a few more days. Wasn't planning on being homeless this year.... We are safe but there are 300,000 evacuees in San Diego alone and L.A/ Riverside has its own refugee population crammed into sports stadiums etc. Shine on us.... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:36:57 +0200 From: "Marian Russell" Subject: posting songs into jmdl guitar site Does anyone know how to get transcriptions into the jmdl guitar site now? Marian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:45:22 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Vancouver and environs - Sechelt Thanks everyone for all the info. It is a beautiful day in BC today and would have been perfect for a little trek but it was not to be on this trip. Appreciate everyones efforts. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 22, 2007, at 12:43 AM, Allison Crowe Music Mgmt wrote: Sechelt is where you want to visit if it"s Joni's native land you seek. From Vancouver (AKA the mainland), or Vancouver Island (which is another boat to reach the mainland), you'd need to travel to Horseshoe Bay (in West Vancouver). From there you catch a 40 or so minute ferry to Langdale - about ten minutes drive from the town of Gibsons. It's about one hour's drive north from there to Sechelt. Visit http://www.bcferries.com for schedules etc. It's not far in miles, but it can take a long time, eg. 2 - 4 hours, to reach if you have to make a two-boat ferry connection.) This entire coast is beautiful. Sometimes, though, it's nice to see the rainforest be less rainy! Enjoy your visit and exploring ( : Slainte, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:40:47 -0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: NJC Wildfires....Shine on us I wish the best for all of you over there. Will be flying in on the 28th. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Oct 23, 2007, at 6:58 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: Dear Joni friends, Well, our home and my studio are surrounded by huge wildfires in Fallbrook CA, actually within a few hundred yards. The whole town has been evacuated so I'm writing from a hotel with all our possessions stuffed into two cars. The whole of Southern California is in the same boat; it really is a major catastrophe. The roads are all blocked by police so we can't get near home to see if it's still there for maybe a few more days. Wasn't planning on being homeless this year.... We are safe but there are 300,000 evacuees in San Diego alone and L.A/ Riverside has its own refugee population crammed into sports stadiums etc. Shine on us.... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:26:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Vancouver and environs - Sechelt - --- Michael Paz wrote: > Thanks everyone for all the info. It is a beautiful > day in BC today > and would have been perfect for a little trek but it > was not to be on > this trip. Appreciate everyones efforts. > > Paz > It seems to take a long time to get there even if, on the map, it ain't far. I was out there in the summer with the kids and was going to go to the resort formerly known as Lord Jim's where Joni apparently stayed while having her BC home built. However, we had been on Vancouver Island and it was going to take two ferries to get there (one to get back to the mainland and a shorter one to get to that part of the Sunshine coast) and we could only book one night at the resort and I figured that it would take us a good six hours to get there from Vancouver Island where we were and then we were flying home next day from Vancouver and the whole point of going to a resort is to relax, and that sounded very unrelaxing - by the time we'd get there, it would be time to go to sleep and then we'd need to get up earliesh the next day, so I cancelled out on it. Like you, will save this for another time. I think I am in love with BC, not so much Vancouver because it's too busy, congested and expensive, but the Island and I think the Sunshine Coast is much like Vancouver Island. Who can resist mountains and ocean? Not me. It's really like being in paradise. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:13:08 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: SoCal fires (njc) Oh but California! This is so scary! I'm so glad to hear you are okay, Kakki. I hope the others have "phoned home" and I just didn't see it yet because I am on digest. My heart cries out for you, California. All you ladies and gentlemen of the canyons, be safe! Love, Patti P., sending up prayers for rain and that they are aiming the hoses where they need to From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Just wanted to say I hope our SoCal listers are doing O.K. I am especiallyworried about Lindsay in San Diego and Lesli in Topanga and anyone else whomay be having to endure this nightmare. The San Diego fires are especiallyhorrific, something like 250,000 people evalucated out of very few roads. SanDiego North County was my second home for the better part of 20 years. Ican't quite process the reports I am hearing about so many places I used tospend time in over the years. They say this is the worst in Calif. history.There are no good answers - except maybe going underground with utilities andbuilding something like the concrete houses they have in Florida now. Still,we are at the mercy of the elements here and this, unfortunately, has been the"perfect storm." I am so sad at the losses and hardship in the areas that areaffected. The media never quite conveys how bad it really is. If anyone inthe areas need any assistance, please let me know.Kakki _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:33:38 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: SoCal fires (njc) On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:13 PM, Patti Parlette wrote: > Oh but California! > > This is so scary! I'm so glad to hear you are okay, Kakki. I hope > the others > have "phoned home" and I just didn't see it yet because I am on > digest. > > My heart cries out for you, California. All you ladies and > gentlemen of the > canyons, be safe! You are in my thoughts and prayers, California people. Victor California (c)2000 by Victor Johnson California, valley of sunshine, Carry me to your golden shore. Wind around the starlit highway, Up above the mountain cliffs. Sweet lady of the canyon, Won't you take me for a ride. Fill me with your perfect vision, Lead me to this holy land. California coming closer, Starry skies and sleepless nights. Early morning passion thunder, And the love keeps pouring out. Walk me through your redwood pastures, Beneath the trees so high and wide. Lay me down in fertile valleys, Morning Glory on the vine. California, take me home, Brighten my southern sky. Sing me an unbroken lullaby, I'll spread my wings, teach me to fly. California, lonely skybird, Fly over ocean of white clouds. Gaze down on a deep, blue heaven, Shining in the sunlit sky. Dream of wooden ships and mermaids, Dolphins jumping in the sea. With no particular destination, California's just around the bend. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:37:17 -0400 From: kjhsf@aol.com Subject: Jesca Hoop NJC Has anyone else discovered Jesca Hoop?? I heard her on a local radio station and jotted down the name. Later that day, I heard she was featured on NPR.? She's really talented--kind of?a mix of Kate Bush, Fiona Apple and Leslie Feist.?? Ken ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:19:54 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Q: Burning from iTunes, njc I bought 23 golden oldies from iTunes. The interface appears to tell me that the total playing time is 1.4 hours, occupying 88.3 Mb. Why does it split this across 2 CDs? Can I still convert it to an un-protected version after 2 burns? Thanks. Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Re: Q: Burning from iTunes, njc You have to tell your burner to burn MP3's or it will convert them to full size files and want to burn 2 cd's. Or convert the files ahead of time and just burn them as full AIFF files, which will take 2 cd's. Jerry Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > I bought 23 golden oldies from iTunes. The interface appears to tell me > that > the total playing time is 1.4 hours, occupying 88.3 Mb. Why does it split > this across 2 CDs? > > Can I still convert it to an un-protected version after 2 burns? > > Thanks. > > Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:47:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jerry Notaro" Subject: Joni In Vanity Fair Not a word about the gorgeous two page spread in the new Vanity Fair???? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: rian afriadi Subject: Re:Re: Another English Lesson Hey, what i wanted to know is the meaning of "Raised on Robbery", not "sitting on my groceries". : D LOL. But thanks, i do enjoy the discussion. LOL. I feel a lil bit sorry for the character because at the end of the song, she failed to show her best recipe. NP: Billie Holiday - Strange Fruit (yay, this song is scary) Soon Will Play -- Fiona Apple - Paper Bag Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:19:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Monika Bogdanowicz Subject: Joni on Adult Alternative...trivial.. My cable has a variety of music channels that simply play music with pictures of the band/artist and that which display facts at the top about that artist/band. The other day I was on the computer and my sister was surfing through these music channels (you know, there's a whole bunch like classic rock, metal, reggae, oldies, etc etc) and she stopped on the "Adult Alternative" one which I never even bothered to check out. I heard the beginning of "If." My sister called my name to get my attention and without even turning around I said, "I know!" It was nice to hear some Joni, especially from the new album. I guess now when I browse through the music channels I better stop on AA. I wish I would have sat and read the facts and looked at the pictures of Joni they had....ah well. Enough triviality for today! -Monika "We all come and go unknown..." Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:28:46 -0500 From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Re: Joni on Adult Alternative...trivial.. My sister heard "If" on an FM radio station in Minneaplis (the "cities 97"). Sounds like "If" is the "hit" of the album (a damn fine song IMO). Dan On 10/23/07, Monika Bogdanowicz wrote: > > My cable has a variety of music channels that simply play music with > pictures of the band/artist and that which display facts at the top about > that artist/band. The other day I was on the computer and my sister was > surfing through these music channels (you know, there's a whole bunch like > classic rock, metal, reggae, oldies, etc etc) and she stopped on the "Adult > Alternative" one which I never even bothered to check out. I heard the > beginning of "If." My sister called my name to get my attention and without > even turning around I said, "I know!" It was nice to hear some Joni, > especially from the new album. I guess now when I browse through the music > channels I better stop on AA. > I wish I would have sat and read the facts and looked at the pictures > of Joni they had....ah well. Enough triviality for today! > -Monika > "We all come and go unknown..." > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:57:54 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: sjc, no Nobel Joni this year Dear Oddmund and Every Jonibody: Alas, the Nobel Peace Prize Committee must not have received your letter in time, Oddmund. Joni won't be there. Voila: By Bjoern H. Amland, Associated Press Writer OSLO  Melissa Etheridge, Alicia Keys and Annie Lennox are among the artists who will perform at the annual Nobel Peace Prize Concert in Norway, organizers said Thursday. The Dec. 11 concert will also feature performances by Earth Wind & Fire, Colombian singer Juanes and Scottish singer-songwriter KT Tunstall, organizers told The Associated Press. This year's Nobel Peace Prize went to former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for their efforts to help spread awareness about man-made global warming. Organizers said Gore invited Etheridge to perform at the concert, which is held a day after the award ceremony in Oslo. Each year, peace laureates are given the opportunity to invite one artist of their choice. Etheridge won an Academy Award this year for the song I Need To Wake Up, which featured in Gore's environmental documentary An Inconvenient Truth. The American singer recently released her ninth studio album, The Awakening. Lennox, a former member of British pop group Eurythmics, will release her fourth solo album, Songs of Mass Destruction, this month, while Keys, a nine-time Grammy Award-winning Soul and R&B star, is due to release her third studio album, As I Am, on Nov. 13. "The Nobel Committee is pleased to welcome such a talented and eclectic group of artists for this momentous occasion," said Geir Lundestad, secretary of the Norwegian Nobel Committee. The committee said it will announce additional performers and the concert hosts in the coming weeks. **** Oh, well. Maybe next year. Or maybe she's holding out for when *I* win it! (Just kidding...) Peace, Patti P. P.S. I'm very happy that I just fixed my hotmail problem that has prevented me from reading the JMDL or posting from home for a few weeks. It was so frustrating! (I'm no Moni Kellerman -- Hi Moni! -- so it was hard to figure out. Turns out I had to install Firefox.) I had dinner w/ my son Michael from Mountains last night and he scolded me like a Bob Muller: "Mom, if you had a PC, I could have helped you. Why do you insist on having a MAC?" I told him I'm no Hillbilly PC-user and he said: "WHAT are you talking about *hillbillies* for? Mom, you are NUTS! Is that some kind of Joni-thing?" _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:21:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: sjc, no Nobel Joni this year NJC As well he should have...Mac AND Hotmail??? Sheesh, do your clothes come equipped with the "Kick Me" sign already affixed on the back? Talk about a glutton for punishment. :o) Bob NP: Tom Waits, "First Kiss" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:46:40 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Re: BYT (2007) Bob sums it up perfectly: >> I think another barometer is longevity - while there have been lots of great onesie & twosie artists, there are far fewer who have been actively creating for 40+ years as Joni has. << While I love Stevie Wonder and Todd Rundgren I think that Prince and maybe Trent Reznor are the only current pop artists capable of creating a song as fresh, intricate and interesting as BYT2007. I can't think of another musician with such an amazingly diverse, strong catalogue (although U2 could catch up if they continue making masterpieces like How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb). ET NP: Planet In Peril, CNN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:33:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Neil Young Bonus Track I also picked up "Chrome Dreams II" today, and as is their custom, my cool indie store gave me a bonus - a CD with a live version of "Sugar Mountain" - live at The Riverboat from the upcoming Archives Performance Series, Volume 1/The Riverboat. So, I thought to myself, why should I hoard this little gem all to myself? I have no interest in doing that - more fun to share, always. Of course, SM is the song that inspired Joni's "The Circle Game" so no NJC required. http://download.yousendit.com/A880E7AF6B448D54 Bob NP: Neil Young, "Sugar Mountain" Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:55:48 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: RE: sjc, no Nobel Joni this year NJC Muller chastised me, comme d'habitude et encore une fois: "As well he should have...Mac AND Hotmail??? Sheesh, do your clothes come equipped with the "Kick Me" sign already affixed on the back? Talk about a glutton for punishment. :o) " You know, I've got other things to attend to! It takes cheerful resignation Heart and humility That's all it takes A cheerful person told me Nobody's harder on me than MULLER! LOL...I have a yahoo account, too, but it's not registered on the JMDL (didn't want to bother Les about it because he is so busy these days) AND a gmail account....so get off a case of me! I'm going to tell your Dad that you're picking on me again! If it weren't so late, I'd unleash another moldie oldie on you, but for now (because I'm a kind person, not a cold person), I will just say: Let your little light shine Shine on the dazzling darkness That restores us in deep sleep Mmm....dazzling darkness...almost a full moon (Good night, matela moon!)...deep sleep...sounds good to me! Vive la Joan! Love & Peace, Patti P., still sending up prayers for California _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:21:35 -0400 From: "Eric Taylor" Subject: Fire Fall NJC Back in September 1987, living in California, I published a poem in The Mendocino Commentary. Today watching this horrible, almost biblical fire I read it for the first time since then and want to share it with you. Fire Fall Night is cold Sun brings dew Dew sprouts seed Roots tap spring Trees make mist Soft is rain Men cut trees Clouds go high Rain falls far Doesn't hit Lightning does Forests burn Poisons don't Moon is red Day is dark Downpour comes Soil goes Desert stays Times repeat But can we? ET "When this place is a moonscape don't tell me I didn't warn ya!" ~Joni Mitchell 2007 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #426 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------