From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #392 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 29 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 392 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: The Anticlimactic Shine [Victor Johnson ] Re: Shine song playing in your head ["Mark Scott" ] Re: The Anticlimactic Shine [ajfashion@att.net] Re: The Anticlimactic Shine [Bob Muller ] Re: The Anticlimactic Shine ["starvingartist" ] Re: The Anticlimactic Shine ["starvingartist" ] Burma, njc [Patti Parlette ] was Joni ringtone now mary gauthier njc ["Ron" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:17:30 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:38 PM, starvingartist wrote: > William: I agree with you. I also LOVE Joni's work, but not this > record, nor the three previous for which I had the same response to > "Shine"; I AM BORED by it. I bought it Tuesday (and only $10.99 at > Circuit City,) came home, played it on my really good home system, > thought "sounds like TTT, I understand you don't like it (each to his own) but I don't think it sounds anything like TTT. The instrumentation is largely different from TTT and there is not that predominance of the VG8 which was very much a part of her sound at that time. I find her return to the piano very refreshing and also particularly like the pedal steel, both of which were virtually nonexistent on any recent releases. > same old clarinet figures over and over and over again. Clarinet figures? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:17:40 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Shine song playing in your head - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cassy" > I cannot remember a Joni release I didn't have in my hands the day > it came out I saved this post because it struck me that when I first started following Joni's career (mid 70s), I had no idea when a new album would be released. It was always such a fun surprise to walk into my favorite record store and find a new Joni Mitchell album! I suppose I must have read about some of them before they were released and been on the lookout. But I don't ever remember knowing the specific release dates in those days. I seem to remember finding 'Hejira' and being totally surprised and delighted. 'Omigod! New Joni! Far out!' Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 02:41:03 +0000 From: ajfashion@att.net Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine I'm not sure I'll ever love any album as I love FTR and THOSL, but OTOH I don't like all Nabokov equally. And yet I have enjoyed reading them all, and learned something. Post-THOSL-Joni has taken me longer to get into than pre-THOSL. So I'm going to live with it a long time. And, if you're like me, those older CDs have great resonance beyond the brilliance of the music and lyrics--I have so many personal associations that sometimes it's hard to see where the music begins and my life ends. - --Aleda ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine And of course it does not, I'm with you Victor. This is a drastic departure from the Parker Fly/VG8 sound of TTT - I don't get how anyone would think it that Shine sounds like TTT at all, just don't get it it. If anything it sounds the most like C&S and how could any Joni fan be upset about that? Bob NP: Beth Orton, "Tangent" - --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:14:19 -0400 From: "starvingartist" Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine It's not about a synth guitar, it's about no soul. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "Victor Johnson" Cc: "JMDL" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine > don't think > it sounds anything like TTT.> > > And of course it does not, I'm with you Victor. This is a drastic > departure from the Parker Fly/VG8 sound of TTT - I don't get how anyone > would think it that Shine sounds like TTT at all, just don't get it it. If > anything it sounds the most like C&S and how could any Joni fan be upset > about that? > > Bob > > NP: Beth Orton, "Tangent" > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest > shows on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 00:33:04 -0400 From: "starvingartist" Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine Upset? I don't think I said anything about being upset. The boring sound doesn't have anything to do with the instruments interpreting it, VG8 or whatever synth instrument is playing the monotonous chords, and you're right Bob TTT on second thought did sound better, although the music was abysmal the lyrics were better. synth----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Muller" To: "Victor Johnson" Cc: "JMDL" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:28 PM Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine > don't think > it sounds anything like TTT.> > > And of course it does not, I'm with you Victor. This is a drastic > departure from the Parker Fly/VG8 sound of TTT - I don't get how anyone > would think it that Shine sounds like TTT at all, just don't get it it. If > anything it sounds the most like C&S and how could any Joni fan be upset > about that? > > Bob > > NP: Beth Orton, "Tangent" > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest > shows on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 04:40:06 +0000 From: Patti Parlette Subject: Burma, njc Danilo wrote: Hi guys! I just wanted to share my vision about what's going on in Burma (and I'll keep on calling it Burma though it's name has been changed to Myanmar). It's so shocking. Military against barefeet monks, it's a shame. People are dying and what can we do? We can wear all the red t-shirts we have but will it really change the way things are? Russia keeps away from any kind of action (or re-action), China hypocritely (sorry if this word is wrong) and barely attacks with light words a dictatorial government thay supported and still supports, India is silent. What are our sleepy representatives doing for that? Nothing. What is UN doing to try and resolve the situation? Nothing. They've cut the internet out there so it will be harder to get some news. How long will it go on with us staring rolling our thumbs? **** Grazie for bringing this up, Danilo. I just got the latest digest, so chock full of wonderful stuff....tons of Joni (All Things Considered was AWESOME! Thank you!), a George Harrison movie in the works, Richard's beautiful reconnection w/ a h.s. friend (w/ a little Joni content to boot!), Fred Simon's MySpace & his music, and you know..... But it's this post that my heart and mind says to reply to. The situation there is horrifying. Here are these people begging for democracy (something the U.S. is purporting to bring to Iraq, such a joke...why don't we help THESE people, who really want it?), and they are getting gunned down by military madness and all communication is being stifled. Another breakdown of this century. If I had a heart, I'd cry. At least we have Joni back to help us make it through these waves. Vive la Joan! Peace, Patti P. P.S. Apologies for my last post (about Mags beautiful post) which came out so messy. I hate that! Hotmail changed recently and it seems that when I send one from the workplace, even though it looks fine and neat and well-spaced on the screen, it comes out all schmushed together. I hope it doesn't happen on this one, too. _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:21:42 +0200 From: "Ron" Subject: was Joni ringtone now mary gauthier njc hi j wrote > np: Mary Gauthier, Can't Find The Way is this from the new album?? any comments??? i have her new one, & shine, on the way to me at the moment ron ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #392 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------