From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #383 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 26 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 383 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Shiny Happy People (R.E.M.) [Victor Johnson ] Re: "Shine" - the packaging - I love it! -- njc [Smurf ] Purchased mp3s online @ Amazon for $8.99 ["Jeffrey Zinkerman" ] RE: If you want me I'll be in the STARRRRRRbucks! ["Jim Kauffman" ] RE: The Anticlimactic Shine ["Jim Kauffman" ] RE: I'm shining too ["Jim Kauffman" ] Re: Shine song playing in your head [Tejas4x4@aol.com] shine ["gene" ] Re: SHINE buying experience [jeannie ] Herbie on Joni (Paris) [Michael ] RE: I love Joni Mitchell and plus i love the joni mitchell discussion list ["patrick leader" ] [none] [JILL A HAAS ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:03:38 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Shiny Happy People (R.E.M.) On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:38 PM, Susan Moss wrote: > > I listened to the first song, an instrumental, on my way home and > just wept at > the beautyb& of the notes and of her gift to us b itbs definitely > Ms. > Mitchellbs "voice", even without the wordsb& and I am so looking > forward to > hearing more... "Dust off those rusty strings just one more time, Gonna make them shine!" - -Jerry Garcia/Robert Hunter "Stella Blue" "Turn on your lights let it shine on me Turn on your love light Let it shine on me Let shine, let it shine, let it shine. " J. Scott/D. Malone "Turn On Your Lovelight" "Shiny happy people holding hands Shiny happy people laughing" R.E.M. "Shiny Happy People" "Hee, lawdy, and I'll be far away Havin' so much fun Ahh, cause I know, lord That the sun, sun gonna shine again" Ray Charles " The Sun's Gonna Shine Again" "Shine on the dazzling darkness That restores us in deep sleep Shine on what we throw away And what we keep" Joni Mitchell "Shine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: "Shine" - the packaging - I love it! -- njc - --- Catherine wrote: > And wouldn't it be great to have a ballet dancer's > bum? Sure, honey, but why stop at one? XO, - --SoB ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:30:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "Shine" - the packaging - I love it! -- njc - --- Smurf wrote: > > --- Catherine wrote: > > > > And wouldn't it be great to have a ballet dancer's > > bum? > > > Sure, honey, but why stop at one? > > XO, > > --SoB > Yeehaw! Smurf is in da house! Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:56:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Shine - the title song I don't know about anyone else, but this song makes me sob like a baby when I hear it. I love it, but it's breaking my heart. Or should that be, I love it and it's breaking my heart? It's the combination of lyrics and music, but most of all, the complete sincerity in Joni's voice. She sounds so incredibly focussed and hoping against hope. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:36:09 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Zinkerman" Subject: Purchased mp3s online @ Amazon for $8.99 First time I ever paid for mp3's; (My local Starbux didnt have it yet, so I decided to go for it.) Sine is $9.99 on i-tunes. Nobody has rated it on i-tunes yet.. Im about to listen and Im very nervous. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential.  If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:17:38 -0400 From: jserkes@aol.com Subject: I'm shining too The 25th I waited and waited. Had to be reminded at the Laura Nyro site, that it was this month, not last. I am sitting watching TV, working, and listening to SHINE. I am happy. Happy to hear ECO and The lady most associated with Green. Joni has always been green. Green Goddess she is. I have to do everything I can not to try and run into her here in LA at the startbucks near BelAir. I am such a friggin fan, I would make an ass of myself So congrats to all of us for the Jonster who continues to amaze and stays so true green. love nyrogrl ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:28:02 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Shine song playing in your head Which Shine song does your brain keep playing in the silence? Mine is "If I Had a Heart." ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:35:38 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: moon I became intoxicated by the moon SHINE tonight while I walked. Earlier there was a rainbow and some clouds that looked like the part of the Shine CD cover that was hidden by the blue strip. Magnificant skies on this happy Shine day. I wished it upon people all day... happy Shine day, happy Shine day! Some said you too. Some just looked puzzled at me. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:47:34 EDT From: Rusty10113@aol.com Subject: Re: The Anticlimactic Shine i understand this post on a superficial level, but i ahve to say, I had my first spin of Shine on a flight today, and the sky was covered with ice cream castles in the air, almost like the arctic, it was majestic, and for some reason, when Bad Dreams are Good was playing, I just went to some blissful place, and I loved the arrangement hook more than the vocal, but this song resonated with me... Joni isnt britney spears, u need to listen, feel and connect with her almost on a spirtiual level, and with SHine, Im doing just that... and this is from someone who was very blah over TTT, too... im not discounting your opinion, but this one is connecting with me, and im just so grateful she's managed another disc of new stuff ... the error here is to expect another Court & Spark==thanks been done, to perfection, so why do we need another one? this is unique and of the moment, and its more riveting with every listen... just my thoughts xoxo ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:52:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Subject: Re: SHINE buying experience Gosh, I was thinking it was just my local Starbucks missing the boat when I read that many of you encountered the same thing -- stores that hadn't stocked the CD and didn't have it behind the counter, dumbfounded clerks (some helpful, some condescending), and, finally, a copy of Shine found in the stockroom. So I think that they dropped the ball all over the country. Disappointing. Maybe they'll all have it stocked by the end of the week. But I think it's safe to say that the listening party scheduled for 11 to 2 was sort of a joke. To quote the clerk at one store, "We're the busiest Starbucks in the region, and they don't tell us anything." Anyway, now having heard Shine for the first time (on anything other than my tinny computer speakers), I have to say I love the music on this album (except for the drum machine on If I Had a Heart), it just "sounds like a Joni Mitchell album." The lyrics (the object of my earlier rant), are, often, not so hot. But I'm listening with an open mind, hoping to get past the "pedantic effrontery." Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:52:46 -0400 From: "Jim Kauffman" Subject: RE: If you want me I'll be in the STARRRRRRbucks! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of Rusty10113@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:38 AM > To: Motitan@aol.com; loveuconn@hotmail.com; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: If you want me I'll be in the STARRRRRRbucks! > > hey all, just FYI--I went to THREE Starbucks on the Upper > West Side in Manhattan, and not a sign of JOni anywhere..i > had to ask a barista who went in the back to get one out of a box... They were displayed at the 7th Ave. & 38th store. I bought one, at 8:45. Jim K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:57:05 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Ladies' Man Music bonanza this month. I just got Chaka Khan's, Funk This. Apt title. Very funky all through. A highlight for me is Chaka's cover of the Prince song, Sign o' The Times. Nice job. Chaka claims, Joni's, Ladies Man for her own. She funks it up the way it should be. Not too sure about the backing vocals at the end though. She also replaces Carly Simon on the duet, You Belong To Me with Michael McDonald. Nice album in all. 4/5. Mark in Sydney NP You Belong To Me - Chaka Khan featuring Michael McDonald ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:59:37 -0400 From: "Jim Kauffman" Subject: RE: The Anticlimactic Shine > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of William Elliott > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:15 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: The Anticlimactic Shine > > Still, I recognize the ultimate greatness > of the artist and I'll keep listening in hope of a change of > heart. -WElliott I recommend a listening session in the dark, with headphones. I think you'll be amazed. Jim K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:33:56 -0400 From: "Jim Kauffman" Subject: RE: I'm shining too > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On > Behalf Of jserkes@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:18 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: I'm shining too > > The 25th > I waited and waited. Had to be reminded at the Laura Nyro > site, that it was this month, not last. My first listen to Shine reminded me of Laura in the later years. Maybe because many of the songs are piano-based, and ecology-based, but I swear I hear a Laura influence (and Joni's always credited Laura as an equal talent). Jim K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:42:58 EDT From: Tejas4x4@aol.com Subject: Re: Shine song playing in your head >Which Shine song does your brain keep playing in the silence? >Mine is "If I Had a Heart." Shine - the song - does it for me. It literally gave me goose bumps. Love the way James Taylor adds his little guitar licks and gets Joni to lift her voice to a higher register in some parts. Love the LYRICS and the music. The song absolutely mesmerizes me. Its a true masterpiece, IMO. If a Grammy nomination comes her way, it sure would be cool if she would perform this song live at the Grammy's. Aren't I hopeful!! ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:49:32 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: shine any relationship in the release of "shine" and a full moon on the same day? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:46:50 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: SHINE buying experience Okay, I too felt like I was on a wrong page because the two Starbucks and a Borders Bookstore my son went to didn't have Shine in stock. Under these unusual circumstances, after my son called me to tell me that the places he had gone to had none, I was like, "What?!? I feel out of sync here and on the wrong page with the JMDL novel of our lives. Could this be happening only to me?" I thought I was the only one. Me, the doubter, called those two Shine-less Starbucks locations and one girl said it wouldn't be out at her location until October 3rd. The other girl at the other Starbucks doesn't know as much about music as she does her cafe lattes. I couldn't believe it. I called the downtown Starbucks where I know the manager, Brandy, is really cool, sweet and very helpful and it's the best place for music and she told me she had Shine but my son didn't want to deal with the parking hassles even though she gave him hints where to park. As usual, Borders doesn't usually carry what I want unless I put in an order. So, I'm thinking of going to Wal-Mart but I don't even know if they're carrying it. My son says, "Wait until tomorrow. It's late." My days begin at night, but I'm not in any Wal-Mart mode right now. I don't know where else to go. I guess I'll have to wait. So, it's just me, the moon, and the FM classical station, running behind the times. Enduring patience is all I can think to make sense of not having Joni's music with me on a day of one of her record's releases. There's a first for everything and this sure is a doozy one for me! All I can do now is look up at the clouds lit up by the moon and I just know that Nature, in all of it's majestic beauty, has a way that balances me out on days and nights like these. I think I'll put Clouds on. That'll work just fine. Jeannie Bryan wrote: Gosh, I was thinking it was just my local Starbucks missing the boat when I read that many of you encountered the same thing -- stores that hadn't stocked the CD and didn't have it behind the counter, dumbfounded clerks (some helpful, some condescending), and, finally, a copy of Shine found in the stockroom. So I think that they dropped the ball all over the country. Disappointing. Maybe they'll all have it stocked by the end of the week. But I think it's safe to say that the listening party scheduled for 11 to 2 was sort of a joke. To quote the clerk at one store, "We're the busiest Starbucks in the region, and they don't tell us anything." Anyway, now having heard Shine for the first time (on anything other than my tinny computer speakers), I have to say I love the music on this album (except for the drum machine on If I Had a Heart), it just "sounds like a Joni Mitchell album." The lyrics (the object of my earlier rant), are, often, not so hot. But I'm listening with an open mind, hoping to get past the "pedantic effrontery." Bryan - --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:49:14 +0000 From: Michael Subject: Herbie on Joni (Paris) Had a lovely dinner last night with Laurent in Paris - our way of celebrating the release of Shine ! No sign of it here, but there was a nice Joni mention in the weekly entetainment rag, Pariscope. In an interview with Herbie Hancock, the first question was:Why an album entirely dedicated to the music of Joni Mitchell? Is she one of your favourite artists? He replies: I've known Joni for a long time. We have always shared a mutual respect. She paints, she makes films, she studies philosophy and comparitive religions, she even produced a ballet and she is always concerned about the state of the world.But most of all, her writing is incredible. Joni lovers of the world unite ! Michael in Quebec (in Paris with Laurent) _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:51:38 -0400 From: "patrick leader" Subject: RE: I love Joni Mitchell and plus i love the joni mitchell discussion list i feel so close to you all right now. i'm just getting to my email from the whole day right now at 11:32 pm. one of the first things i read was anita's lovely post about good and bad in the catholic church. it's only because the world is flawed that we can find it so beautiful. richard mentioned that joni must be using 'let your little light shine' ironically, and she might be, partially, but once you hear the song and her singing it, you know she means it from the heart. let it shine on all those things, dreamy girls, assholes on the right... i bought shine, herbie's, chaka's and me'shell's today after work, and i just got to listen to most of herbie, and right on its heels, me'shell's new one. bob, i think you're going to love it, it's very different from earlier work, but completely meaty and beautiful. some gorgeous singing. i think it's interesting that i love love love bob sheppard's sax on 'shine' so much; it's just so much more appropriate for each of the songs he's on than shorter has been for a while. but i love shorter on herbie's album. i really love it. sue's note, below, besides reminding me how much i love the gal, gave me new ideas. getting new music and thinking about tabbing it! how cool! i'm going to put more effort in learning how to sing the songs on shine, especially hana and night of the iguana, which i just love love love.... oh, let your little light shine... patrick, 92 more messages to read np - hancock, shorter - nefertiti - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Susan McNamara Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:43 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: I love Joni Mitchell hey guys, just watched Joni's interview on youtube. Of her many wonderful quotables over the years I think this one is going to be my alltime favorite: "In order to be optimistic, you have to be irrational!" OhGoddess, time to buy strings and tab Shine!!! Right ... Howard, Marian! And anyone else who wants to help ... Sue Sue McNamara http://www.jmdl.com/guitar "It's all a dream she has awake ..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:35:23 -0600 From: "Les Irvin" Subject: CBS Sunday Morning Rumor has it that Joni will appear this Sunday. Can anyone tape it? Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:52:22 -0700 From: JILL A HAAS Subject: [none] J-day is coming to a close, and I'm still Joni-jones-ing. I went to the Starbucks near work the day before J-day to ask if they would be "participating," and after some questions hollered to the manager in the back room, they said, yeh, I guess so... I couldn't be there at 11am, but I hit it at the crack of noon. They were playing Shine and had the CD, but when I walked in, I could barely hear the music. I asked if they were playing Joni Mitchell, and pointed at the sign that announced they would be doing just that. Again, blank stares, and finally the manager said, "I think so." I found a quiet spot in the place, and indeed, I heard...something shining...I swooped down on it like a black crow. Bought my copy, but couldn't listen to it until I left work. Started to love it then. After I got home, I decided that I needed to take a drive and hear some more. My car is the best place to listen. I already loved it more...it grows on you fast. I can't wait for my morning commute. So far, like someone else said, I keep hearing the words, "If I had a heart, I'd cry," in my head. "Shine" and "If" are also my first favorites, but I know from experience that my initial faves may not end up being my long-time faves. It was a great thing to know that Jonilistas everywhere were scrambling for their chance to "Shine," and it's great to hear all of your stories. I was able to share my own little bit of joy with one person at work who thinks Joni is one of the greatest singer/songwiters of our time (fancy that!!!), and another woman who loves dance and loved the photos. BTY, I think the production of the CD is top rate. Makes me want to go see the ballet, and contibutes to the hopefulness/irrationality of the CD's theme. And so, we all SHINE on, like the moon and the stars and the sun... Yours on this special day, Jill Haas Seattle ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #383 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------