From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #373 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 22 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 373 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Entertainment Weekly review of Shine [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Listen to 'Big Yellow Taxi 2007' NJC [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Listen to 'Big Yellow Taxi 2007' NJC [Victor Johnson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:46:22 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Entertainment Weekly review of Shine Labeled as jazz/folk....written by Clark Collis "Mitchell's first album of (mostly) new material in nine years is reminiscent of a chapter from the singer-songwriter's past--not her famous, acoustic balladeering Blue period but her subsequent, jazzier albums. Delicate overture "One Week Last Summer" could be an outtake from 1977's underrated Don Juan's Reckless Daughter," while the clattering "Night of the Iguana" calls to mind her peerless 1976 release, Hejira. And if anyone is going to do a pleasant-if-pointless revamp of "Big Yellow Taxi," it might as well be the woman who wrote it." EW gives the album an A- and suggests downloading "This Place." - -Monika ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:14:13 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Listen to 'Big Yellow Taxi 2007' NJC What makes you think people on this list don't care enough "to really [sic] try" anything? What gives you the right to put yourself in a position where you claim to care more about our lives, or the lives of our loved ones, than we do? Grow up, Monika. Consider apologizing to people you've offended (I know it's painful, because I have it done it many times on usenet and other lists, but I was better for it). Because there's no argument to win here. Just things for all of us to learn. - --Aleda - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---- I don't particularly believe in arguing in person and especially online when everything is misconstrued as it is here. I never put any blame upon people for dying from cancer or any other serious disease. In fact, I never said that you can will away cancer or serious diseases. I do believe I said, minor illnesses or ailments and then all of a sudden everyone started reading more into what I had originally written. Many words were put into my mouth when I said nothing like it. No wonder sometimes Joni is irritated when things in writing are taken the wrong way. I can see how easily that happens. In my original post I wasn't attempting to say that the mind cures cancer as much as it is a powerful tool and can help aid you in many ways. The word I used was "can," not does. The possibility is there though it doesn't always happen. Life threatening diseases (which everyone started talking about) are one thing (we are mere mortals) and a head cold is another. And perhaps I seemed a bit snippy because Bob made a joke about this. Well to be honest, I didn't find it very funny (sorry Bob, no offense) because it was a continuing trend of ridiculing (or it seemed like it to me) my own beliefs. I don't tell anyone what to think and surely wouldn't make fun of someone for believing something. I felt I was being ridiculed in general and told that basically my opinion, my belief doesn't count or mean a thing because I'm only 22. It seemed like my age was being put against me for simply a belief in something I have actually experienced. You don't have to believe it but all I would normally ask is some consideration whether you agree or not. I don't mind the disagreeing but I do mind the agism and the notion of this not being taken at all that seriously. And of course the times it was taken seriously was severely misconstrued with peoples' stories of loved ones dying. I apologize if it seemed I implied it was their own fault, that is not what I meant as I never talked about death and such. We are mortals and we pass away. I have been to a few funerals myself and understand why you would be upset by something that others said I said. And as for the America comment, I wasn't implying this list as I actually think the folks here are more intelligent than most. I was referring to the "wanting something for nothing" to be more along the lines of corporations taking advantage of their employees or the invention of diet pills to lose weight or the idea of plastic surgery to make us look younger and so forth. But I do think it is funny that you are telling me to apologize when you are the one who insulted me calling me arrogant, immature, etc etc. I don't apologize for a thing I said. I only apologize for what people thought I had said or what others made it seem like I said. - -Monika ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:53:47 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Listen to 'Big Yellow Taxi 2007' NJC On Sep 22, 2007, at 12:14 AM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > ---- > I don't particularly believe in arguing in person and > especially online > when everything is misconstrued as it is here. I never put any > blame upon > people for dying from cancer or any other serious disease. In > fact, I never > said that you can will away cancer or serious diseases. I do > believe I said, > minor illnesses or ailments and then all of a sudden everyone > started reading > more into what I had originally written. Many words were put into > my mouth > when I said nothing like it. I don't get it either... Monika's original post: I have discovered, through my 22 years of life, that the mind is a powerful tool. I believe the mind to be more powerful than even the body. You can prevent illness with mind power alone just as you can "manifest" illness through the power of the mind. In addition, it can be your greatest benefactor propelling you to new highs and allowing you to explore new ideas. How wonderful is that? Sadly, very sadly indeed, it can be your worst enemy preventing you from even the simplest thing and dragging you down to the all too familiar lows. Normally, I for one can change the way I think and twist things to my benefit when a problem arises. I believe in mind over matter in all cases but it's such a pain when the mind is the enemy in a case....my apologies for my seemingly pointless and random ramblings. It makes sense to me but without going into detail may not make sense to you. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - --------------------------------- There is way too much being read into these words that is simply not there. Below are the four agreements from Don Miguel Ruiz. I think number 2 and number 3 particularly come into play here. 1. Be Impeccable With Your Word Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love. 2. Don't Take Anything Personally Nothing others do is because of you. What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream. When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won't be the victim of needless suffering. 3. Don't Make Assumptions Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness and drama. With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life. 4. Always Do Your Best Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick. Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgment, self-abuse and regret. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:05:14 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: (VLJC) Long Blah Blah Blah... >I am in the hospital waiting room waiting for Freda to come out of the OR after surgery. The doctor came out and says that she did great and it's all good.< What? ?Kakki was suppose to stand in for me and accept the award and of course could not because of her horrible accident. Sending healing beams her way today. 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