From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #355 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 12 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 355 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Remixed Part 3 [Mark-Leon Thorne ] New Yorker review of Herbie's new album ["James Leahy" ] Third New Joni Song from Shine on the radio [PassScribe@aol.com] Re: Third New Joni Song from Shine on the radio [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Stephen Stills Trivia NJC ["Randy Remote" ] Shine on the Radio [KEVIN DOHENY ] Night of the Iguana [M C ] njc, Wally Lamb Publication Party ["Patti Parlette" ] Fwd: Night of the Iguana [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: Night of the Iguana ["rflynn@frontiernet.net" ] Re: Night of the Iguana ["Randy Remote" ] Misc Music News ["Randy Remote" ] RE: Night of the Iguana [Bob Muller ] Re: Misc Music News njc [Doug ] Re: Night of the Iguana ["Mark Scott" ] RE: Night of the Iguana [Catherine McKay ] Re: Night of the Iguana [jeannie ] Too much time on my hands [Kerry ] Re: Night of the Iguana [Michael Paz ] RE: Night of the Iguana [Debra ] Re: now with jc, Wally Lamb Publication Party / Lamb in Joni in Fiction [] Joni Mitchell, Poet in "The New Yorker" [Janet Hess ] Shine Makes Austin Debut ["Happy The Man" ] SV: Night of the Iguana ["Marion Leffler" ] SV: Night of the Iguana ["Marion Leffler" ] RE: Night of the Iguana [jeannie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:15:45 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Joni Remixed Part 3 Here is the link for the third part of Joni Remixed. http:// arunaurl.com/134m It includes artwork for the CD but feel free to use whatever you like or don't burn it all. It fits on one disc. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:13:13 -0400 From: "James Leahy" Subject: New Yorker review of Herbie's new album The New Yorker's review of Herbie Hancock's new album: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/reviews/recordings/2007/09/17/070917gore_GOAT_recordings_futterman Missive to Mitchell by Steve Futterman September 17, 2007 Herbie Hancockbs new album, bRiver: The Joni Lettersb (Verve), pays tribute to a pair of musical geniuses: Joni Mitchell, whose songs make up the albumbs marrow, and Wayne Shorter, the extraordinary saxophonist and longtime Hancock collaborator who steals the recording. Working with a rotating cast of vocalists, Hancock, Shorter, and company tap into the moody and meditative nature of songs that work best when their musical poetry is respected. Hancock, who spent the sixties establishing himself as one of the most accomplished and inventive modern-jazz pianists, apparently tuned out Mitchellbs early folk albums. Apart from the title track and a thoroughly reworked bBoth Sides Now,b Hancock trains his sights on Mitchellbs jazzier material, from bCourt and Sparkb (released in 1974) and beyond. Hancock keeps the album rooted in spare, predominantly acoustic arrangements, yet avoids the temptation to transform Mitchellbs songs into mere vessels for charging improvisations. Given that these songs are inseparable from their creator, the singers do what they can to stay afloat. Norah Jones glides through bCourt and Spark,b Tina Turner sasses bEdith and the Kingpin,b Corinne Bailey Rae purrs the now overexposed bRiver,b and Luciana Souza intones a calming bAmelia.b (Leonard Cohen signs off with a deep-from-the-tomb spoken-word version of bThe Jungle Line.b) Modestly slipping in for bTea Leaf Prophecy,b Mitchell herself makes lightweights of them all. Though the tonal purity and agile range of her youth are long gone, she remains a master of rhythmic phrasing and unforced emotional expressionbthe ideal interpreter of her own work. Hancock plays with care and beauty, his understated lyricism infusing the instrumental features bSweet Bird,b bBoth Sides Now,b and Duke Ellingtonbs bSolitude,b one of two non-Mitchell songs. But it is Shorter who truly inhabits Mitchellbs unique musical universe; relying on suggestion and shading, his compact soprano and tenor saxophone lines deliver the impact of ten notes with just one. Shorter gets to stretch out on his own composition, bNefertiti,b the spiralling number that, in its dC)but on Miles Davisbs 1967 album of the same name, gave notice that the saxophonist was on the cusp of becoming a major jazz figure. Here, it acts as an homage to the artistic daring of three soul siblings: Joni, Wayne, and Herbie. b& ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:39:13 +0100 From: "Ross, Les" Subject: RE: New Yorker review of Herbie's new album Wow, this is an amazingly positive review. I'm particularly taken with "Modestly slipping in for Tea Leaf Prophecy, Mitchell herself makes lightweights of them all. Though the tonal purity and agile range of her youth are long gone, she remains a master of rhythmic phrasing and unforced emotional expression, the ideal interpreter of her own work." And "Here, it acts as an homage to the artistic daring of three soul siblings: Joni, Wayne, and Herbie." Definitely on the to-buy list. Les (london) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of James Leahy Sent: 11 September 2007 14:13 To: joni@smoe.org Subject: New Yorker review of Herbie's new album The New Yorker's review of Herbie Hancock's new album: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/reviews/recordings/2007/09/17/070917gore_GOAT_ recordings_futterman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 6:23:38 -0700 From: Subject: Herbie's forthcoming album (NJC) Paul Castle wrote: >love this - stream of Norah Jones singing Court & Spark >from Herbie's forthcoming album 'River: The Joni Letters' Thanks Paul! Very cool! (Michele and I had a great lunch with Paul and his dad a few weeks ago, at the Trout Inn, on the banks of the Thames in Oxford...sigh...I'm afraid Costa Mesa seems very humdrum after a couple of weeks in England and Wales.) *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA tinkersown@ca.rr.com "The Living Tradition Concert Series" www.thelivingtradition.org "Folk Alliance Region - West" www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:20:21 EDT From: PassScribe@aol.com Subject: Third New Joni Song from Shine on the radio Well, I just heard my second new Joni song off Shine, while driving along at 10:25 AM: "If", played by DJ Darren DeVito, on WFUV. It was very listenable, with fine production, etc., although without hearing/understanding all the lyrics completely, I'm unable to give my complete take on this song; it does seem like lyrics/storylines will take centerstage over the music on this album, as with Joni's other most recent albums (1998 era as being "recent".) An interesting footnote to today's playing of "If": Darren played Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers version of "Dreamville" (nostalgic look at radio with the line "There was rock & roll across the dial"), and Josh Ritter's "The Golden Age Of Radio" (Darren's subtle tribute to Joni, perhaps?) before talking about Joni's new song. He mentioned that it's an adaptation of a Rudyard Kipling poem and that the album will be released on the 25th. It seems like the DJ's at WFUV are really into the new Joni (they've always played the "old" Joni); yesterday, I heard "If I Had A Heart" played by Dennis Elsas and, by searching their playlists (available online) I found out the 2007/Shine version of "Big Yellow Taxi" was played by Claudia Marshall on her morning show yesterday. If anyone (outside the NY metro area) has the time to sit by their computer all day, and cares to listen with the hope of hearing something new, WFUV is streaming online at WFUV.org. Kenny B ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:53:13 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Third New Joni Song from Shine on the radio That's really cool, Kenny - nice to hear that the new one is getting some good exposure even before it comes out. All I ever heard from TTT was when David Dye played "Crazy Cries" the week it was released. I'm sure that WXPN will also do a good job of promotion. Bob NP: Ani, "Willing To Fight" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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It is unclear, but Pete Ham may be playing guitar on this. This is basically a demo of the song. Badfinger helped out on the song, but after their refusal of it being their next "45", George gave it to Ringo to do.] Authorship has been credited to Ringo, but it seems likely that George wrote it or at least rewrote it and let Ring have it. More info on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Don't_Come_Easy RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: KEVIN DOHENY Subject: Shine on the Radio Kudos to WFUV!!! They have always loved Joni and apparently nothing has changed..For those of you outside the New York area I am sure you can stream thru their website..It really is a great station!! Bravo! - --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:25:24 -0700 (PDT) From: M C Subject: Night of the Iguana Hi all, I'm briefly coming out of lurkdom here. Like most, I've been perusing the 'Shine' lyrics. Most of them come through to me clearly, except for the song 'Night of the Iguana'. In the context of the whole album, I'm not sure I get what is being said with this song. On the surface it seems to be about a man torn between sensual temptation and a need to keep his livlihood. Perhaps it's a metaphor about a deeper, more universal struggle, such as our primitive reptilian urges vs our higher ground, including our ability to keep ecological balance. And 'God' seems to be unable to help us in this struggle. Or perhaps none of this. Does anyone have any ideas? - mc Night of the iguana The tour bus came yesterday The driver's a mess today It's a dump of a destiny But it's got a view... Now the kid in the see-through blouse Is moving in hard on his holy vows... Since the preacher's not dead Dead drunk will have to do! Night of the iguana The jasmine is so mercilessly sweet Night of the iguana Can you hear the castanets? The widow is dancing Down on the beach The starlight is steaming He'd like to be dreaming His senses are screaming Not to be denied... But if the spell of the night should win He could lose his bus For the same sweet sin That took his church from him Then how will he survive? Night of the iguana The jasmine is so mercilessly sweet Night of the iguana Can you hear the castanets? It's the widow and her lover-boys Down on the beach The night is so fragrant These women so flagrant They could make him a vagrant With the flick of a shawl. The devil's in sweet sixteen The widow's good looking but she gets mean He's burning like Augustine With no help from God at all ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:43:27 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Wally Lamb Publication Party Azeem, Donna B. and all Wally Lamb fans -- rejoice! His new book is coming out. I just received this notice at work and immediately made a reservation: WALLY LAMB PUBLICATION PARTY Time: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 6:30 PM Location: UConn Co-op We are proud to host the launch for Ill Fly Away: Further Testimonies from the Women of York Prison, compiled and introduced by Wally Lamb. Lamb writes, It was suicide that brought me to York C.I. Two of the inmates had ended their lives; others had tried. The teachers at the prison school were desperate to equip their students with ways of coping with the despair that had infected the institution. Twenty women from the writing workshop at York Correctional Institute that Lamb runs as a volunteer share their experiences in the powerful essays that make up Ill Fly Away. Lamb is also the author of the bestselling novels I Know This Much Is True and Shes Come Undone, and he compiled a previous collection of essays from his workshop at York, Couldnt Keep It To Myself. A portion of the proceeds from the book sales this evening will be donated to The Sexual Assault Crisis Center of Eastern Connecticut, The Domestic Violence Program of the United States, and the University of Connecticut Violence Against Women Prevention Program. This event is free, but please call and let us know you are coming to ensure enough seating: 860-486-5027. Sponsored by the UConn Co-op and the Violence Against Women Prevention Program of the Womens Center.This event is free, but please call and let us know you are coming to ensure enough seating. 860-486-5027. More info on the new book, and his three others, is here: http://uconncoop.booksense.com/NASApp/store/IndexJsp;jsessionid=abc5_6tspzWEac2FqU1tr?s=storeevents&eventId=354645 Wally rocks. He is always honest and hopeful in his writing. He kind of reminds me of someone else we all know and love. If I get to talk to him, I'll ask him if he likes Joni. (You *know* I'm not kiddding!) ; ) Love, Patti P., sending up many many prayers on this sad anniversary for the millions of the lost and lonely ones as the war drums beat on without end.... And so once again Oh, America my friend And so once again You are fighting us all And when we ask you why You raise your sticks and cry and we fall Oh, my friend How did you come To trade the fiddle for the drum You say we have turned Like the enemies you've earned But we can remember All the good things you are And so we ask you please Can we help you find the peace and the star Oh my friend We have all come To fear the beating of your drum _________________________________________________________________ A place for moms to take a break! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:00:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana I gotta wait for additional pictures/impressions from the actual song, as recorded. Waiting for the colors to go swirling and complete the artwork. I like the "dump of destiny" line tho! Em - --- M C wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm briefly coming out of lurkdom here. Like most, > I've been perusing the 'Shine' lyrics. Most of them > come through to me clearly, except for the song 'Night > of the Iguana'. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:47:56 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Night of the Iguana ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Return-path: From: Dflahm@aol.com Full-name: Dflahm Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:47:02 EDT Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana To: emzdogz@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Well, from what I remember of the movie (Richard Burton, Ava Gardner, Deborah Kerr, Don Murray? Sue Lyon) the lyric tracks it quite thoroughly. I think NOTI is the best film ever made from a Tennessee Williams play. LAHM ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:28:09 -0400 From: "rflynn@frontiernet.net" Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana It's a Tennessee Williams play. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_of_the_Iguana Quoting M C : > Hi all, > > I'm briefly coming out of lurkdom here. Like most, > I've been perusing the 'Shine' lyrics. Most of them > come through to me clearly, except for the song 'Night > of the Iguana'. In the context of the whole album, I'm > not sure I get what is being said with this song. On > the surface it seems to be about a man torn between > sensual temptation and a need to keep his livlihood. > Perhaps it's a metaphor about a deeper, more universal > struggle, such as our primitive reptilian urges vs our > higher ground, including our ability to keep > ecological balance. And 'God' seems to be unable to > help us in this struggle. Or perhaps none of this. > Does anyone have any ideas? - mc > > Night of the iguana > > > The tour bus came yesterday > The driver's a mess today > It's a dump of a destiny > But it's got a view... > Now the kid in the see-through blouse > Is moving in hard on his holy vows... > Since the preacher's not dead > Dead drunk will have to do! > > Night of the iguana > The jasmine is so mercilessly sweet > Night of the iguana > Can you hear the castanets? > The widow is dancing > Down on the beach > > The starlight is steaming > He'd like to be dreaming > His senses are screaming > Not to be denied... > But if the spell of the night should win > He could lose his bus > For the same sweet sin > That took his church from him > Then how will he survive? > > Night of the iguana > The jasmine is so mercilessly sweet > Night of the iguana > Can you hear the castanets? > It's the widow and her lover-boys > Down on the beach > > The night is so fragrant > These women so flagrant > They could make him a vagrant > With the flick of a shawl. > The devil's in sweet sixteen > The widow's good looking but she gets mean > He's burning like Augustine > With no help from God at all > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives > you all the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:30:42 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana Are you aware that the song is based on the Tennesse Williams story of the same name? It was also made into a film with Richard Burton & Ava Gardner. I have seen the movie, haven't read the book. Joni's lyrics pretty much mirror the action in the film, I'm not sure why she included it on Shine but I'm glad she did - it's a pleasant diversion from some of the darker material. It contains what I thought to be one of her funnier couplets: "Since the preacher's not dead Dead drunk will have to do!" I know that Blanche DuBois comes from TW's work - I can't recall if "Sweet Bird" is derived from his "Sweet Bird of Youth"...paging Richard Flynn... Bob NP: Joni, "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" (T-Log) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:39:39 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana njc Hannah is Deborah Kerr's character LAHM ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:33:27 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Night of the Iguana - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:31 PM To: M C Bob: paging Richard Flynn.. Lurch: You rang. Bob: I know that Blanche DuBois comes from TW's work Richard: A Streetcar Named Desire Bob: - I can't recall if "Sweet Bird" is derived from his "Sweet Bird of Youth" The magic 8-ball: "It is decidedly so." Richard: I'm a big Tennessee Williams Fan Stanley: The name of this game is seven-card stud. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:15:15 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana > Well, from what I remember of the movie (Richard Burton, Ava Gardner, > Deborah Kerr, Don Murray? Sue Lyon) the lyric tracks it quite thoroughly. > I think NOTI is the best film ever made from a Tennessee Williams play. > > LAHM And contains a character 'Hannah' = Hana ?? And then there's "Dancing At The Blue Iguana" in which Darryl Hannah displays her boobies.... also an environmentalist these days. Just a few puzzle pieces, no picture... RR ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:58:12 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Misc Music News I'm sure we all know that Pavarotti died. Joe Zawinul, colleague of Jaco, and Weather Report keyboardist passed away at age 75 in his native city of Vienna, from a rare form of skin cancer. Zawinul started WP with Wayne Shorter in 1970, wrote Miles Davis' breakout song "In A Silent Way" and composed and played on Bitches Brew. He was voted best keyboarder 30 times by Down Beat's critics poll. Sunday, during the MTV Video Music Awards, a fight broke out between Kid Rock and Tommy Lee (both exes of Pam Anderson). Rock was cited for misdemeaner battery by Vegas police, and must appear in court. The "Imagine Peace Tower", a light sculpture located in Iceland, will be unveiled by Yoko Ono on October 9, which would have been John Lennon's 67th birthday, and will remain lit until Dec 8 (each year). Word has it Ringo will be inducted as a solo artist in the R&R Hall of Fame, the last Beatle to be so. The Beatles 2nd movie "Help!" will be issued on dvd on Oct 30. complete with 5.1 soundtrack and a bonus disc with a "making of" feature, a missing scene, and more. "Help!" was previously available only briefly on dvd due to licensing issues. A $95 deluxe addition with book and various reproductions of promotional materials will also be released. U2's Bono will play the character "Dr. Robert" in the Sept 21 film "Across The Universe", a live action/ 3D animated musical set to Beatles music. Youtube has a clip of Dr Bono doing "I Am The Walrus". Heart will entertain on a cruise to benefit breast cancer which is being organized by the lesbian company Olivia. Wonder how many times Nancy will get hit on. For more info, go to Olivia.com. After 7 years, the lawsuit against Napster has finally been settled, with the company paying out $130 million to the National Music Publishers Assoc.for copyright violations. The 60min dvd "A Night At The Family Dog 1970" has been released, originally a local PBS broadcast of a concert at the legendary SF venue featuring The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and Santana. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:53:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: RE: Night of the Iguana LOL, thank you magic 8-ball. I like his work too, I was the lead in a local theatre production "Three From Tennessee", I don't remember any of the titles, they were all pretty obscure. Back to Joni's song, I also love this closing: "The night is so fragrant These women so flagrant They could make him a vagrant With the flick of a shawl. The devil's in sweet sixteen The widow's good looking but she gets mean He's burning like Augustine With no help from God at all" One of those uniquely Joni rhyme schemes, A-A-A-B-C-C-C-B. Love it. Don't know as I've ever seen flagrant/vagrant/fragrant in that way, and then using the word "Augustine" (and the reference, which I will have to research) to get her "een" rhyme. Bob NP: Marshall Tucker Band, "This Ol' Cowboy" (one of my favoritist songs ever, I had to break down and buy it from i-tunes) - --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:13:05 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Re: Misc Music News njc I will add one item: I just picked up Loreena McKennitt's new DVD/CD set "Nights from the Alhambra" I've been a fan for many years and this one is amazing./ /http://www.quinlanroad.com/homepage/index.asp?LangType=1033 Doug Randy Remote wrote: > I'm sure we all know that Pavarotti died. > > Joe Zawinul, colleague of Jaco, and Weather Report > keyboardist passed away at age 75 in his native city > of Vienna, from a rare form of skin cancer. Zawinul > started WP with Wayne Shorter in 1970, wrote Miles > Davis' breakout song "In A Silent Way" and composed > and played on Bitches Brew. He was voted best > keyboarder 30 times by Down Beat's critics poll. > > Sunday, during the MTV Video Music Awards, a fight > broke out between Kid Rock and Tommy Lee (both > exes of Pam Anderson). Rock was cited for misdemeaner > battery by Vegas police, and must appear in court. > > The "Imagine Peace Tower", a light sculpture located in > Iceland, will be unveiled by Yoko Ono on October 9, which > would have been John Lennon's 67th birthday, and will > remain lit until Dec 8 (each year). > > Word has it Ringo will be inducted as a solo artist > in the R&R Hall of Fame, the last Beatle to be so. > > The Beatles 2nd movie "Help!" will be issued on dvd > on Oct 30. complete with 5.1 soundtrack and a bonus disc > with a "making of" feature, a missing scene, and more. > "Help!" was previously available only briefly on dvd due to > licensing issues. A $95 deluxe addition with book and > various reproductions of promotional materials will also > be released. > > U2's Bono will play the character "Dr. Robert" in the > Sept 21 film "Across The Universe", a live action/ > 3D animated musical set to Beatles music. Youtube > has a clip of Dr Bono doing "I Am The Walrus". > > Heart will entertain on a cruise to benefit breast cancer > which is being organized by the lesbian company Olivia. > Wonder how many times Nancy will get hit on. For more > info, go to Olivia.com. > > After 7 years, the lawsuit against Napster has finally > been settled, with the company paying out $130 million > to the National Music Publishers Assoc.for copyright violations. > > The 60min dvd "A Night At The Family Dog 1970" has been released, > originally a local PBS broadcast of a concert at the legendary > SF venue featuring The Grateful Dead, Jefferson Airplane, and > Santana. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:32:10 -0700 From: "Mark Scott" Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana - ----- Original Message ----- From: "M C" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Night of the Iguana > Hi all, > > I'm briefly coming out of lurkdom here. Like most, > I've been perusing the 'Shine' lyrics. Most of them > come through to me clearly, except for the song 'Night > of the Iguana'. In the context of the whole album, I'm > not sure I get what is being said with this song. On > the surface it seems to be about a man torn between > sensual temptation and a need to keep his livlihood. > Perhaps it's a metaphor about a deeper, more universal > struggle, such as our primitive reptilian urges vs our > higher ground, including our ability to keep > ecological balance. And 'God' seems to be unable to > help us in this struggle. Or perhaps none of this. > Does anyone have any ideas? - mc Well the source of the song as being from Tennessee Williams has already been revealed. Thematically, though, I think you hit a lot of nails on the head. Joni did a good job of boiling the play/movie down and you are very perceptive, MC. But then you're a Joni fan! Of course you're very perceptive! I have toyed with buying the dvd of 'Night of the Iguana' at Costco the last few times I've been there. If I see it the next time I'm there, I think I will have to pick it up. Mark E. in Seattle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:36:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: Night of the Iguana - --- Bob Muller wrote: > > Back to Joni's song, I also love this closing: > > "The night is so fragrant > These women so flagrant > They could make him a vagrant > With the flick of a shawl. > The devil's in sweet sixteen > The widow's good looking but she gets mean > He's burning like Augustine > With no help from God at all" > > One of those uniquely Joni rhyme schemes, > A-A-A-B-C-C-C-B. Love it. Don't know as I've ever > seen flagrant/vagrant/fragrant in that way, and then > using the word "Augustine" (and the reference, which > I will have to research) to get her "een" rhyme. He's burning like Augustine With no help from God at all St Paul to the Corinthians: "It's better to marry than to burn." (believing that being celibate was best but, rather than be tempted and give in to lust, then you should marry, as the lesser of two evils.) And then St Augustine, some centuries later, reaffirmed Paul's belief that sex was inherently sinful - original sin brought with it the disease of lust and sex was a threat to attaining spiritual perfection. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana Whoa, this is awesome! Thank you, MC! I love to study, decipher, play, and meditate on Joni's wonderous works with words. One of the best feelings for me in the whole wide world, ever since I was just a little punk! Jeannie PS: I think I hear these dark rain clouds thunderclap in joy! M C wrote: Hi all, I'm briefly coming out of lurkdom here. Like most, I've been perusing the 'Shine' lyrics. Most of them come through to me clearly, except for the song 'Night of the Iguana'. In the context of the whole album, I'm not sure I get what is being said with this song. On the surface it seems to be about a man torn between sensual temptation and a need to keep his livlihood. Perhaps it's a metaphor about a deeper, more universal struggle, such as our primitive reptilian urges vs our higher ground, including our ability to keep ecological balance. And 'God' seems to be unable to help us in this struggle. Or perhaps none of this. Does anyone have any ideas? - mc Night of the iguana The tour bus came yesterday The driver's a mess today It's a dump of a destiny But it's got a view... Now the kid in the see-through blouse Is moving in hard on his holy vows... Since the preacher's not dead Dead drunk will have to do! Night of the iguana The jasmine is so mercilessly sweet Night of the iguana Can you hear the castanets? The widow is dancing Down on the beach The starlight is steaming He'd like to be dreaming His senses are screaming Not to be denied... But if the spell of the night should win He could lose his bus For the same sweet sin That took his church from him Then how will he survive? Night of the iguana The jasmine is so mercilessly sweet Night of the iguana Can you hear the castanets? It's the widow and her lover-boys Down on the beach The night is so fragrant These women so flagrant They could make him a vagrant With the flick of a shawl. The devil's in sweet sixteen The widow's good looking but she gets mean He's burning like Augustine With no help from God at all ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting - --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:21:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Kerry Subject: Too much time on my hands The things that come up on the internet searches...I wonder what track 7 is like: http://www.bowserandblue.com/album3.htm Kerry - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:17:22 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana This discussion reminded me of Sting's song St. Augustine In Hell (see lyrics below). i wonder if they will have a JMDL section there??!?!?!? Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com If somebody up there likes me somebody up there cares Deliver me from evil save me from these wicked snares Not into temptation, not to cliffs to fall On to revelation, and lesson for us all She walked into the room on the arm of my best friend I knew whatever happened our friendship would end Chemical reaction, desire at first sight Mystical attraction, turned out all my lights The minute I saw her face the second I caught her eye The minute I touched the flame I knew it would never die The minute I saw her face the second I caught her eye The minute I touched the flame I knew it would never die I dont know if its pain or pleasure that I seek My flesh was all too willing, my spirit guide was weak I was deadly certain thoughts for me werent kind A switchblade in his pocket, murder on his mind Blessed st. theresa the whore of babylon Madonna and my mother all rolled into one Youve got to understand me, Im not a piece of wood Francis of assisi could never be this good The minute I saw her face the second I caught her eye The minute I touched the flame I knew it would never die The minute I saw her face the second I caught her eye The minute I touched the flame I knew it would never die Relax, have a cigar, make yourself at home. hell is full of high court Judges, failed saints. weve got cardinals, archbishops, barristers, Certified accountants, music critics, theyre all here. youre not alone. Youre never alone, not here youre not. ok breaks over. The less I need the more I get Make me chaste but not just yet Its a promise or a lie Ill repent before I die The minute I saw her face the second I caught her eye The minute I touched the flame I knew it would never die The minute I saw her face the second I caught her eye The minute I touched the flame I knew it would never die On Sep 11, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: - --- Bob Muller wrote: > > Back to Joni's song, I also love this closing: > > "The night is so fragrant > These women so flagrant > They could make him a vagrant > With the flick of a shawl. > The devil's in sweet sixteen > The widow's good looking but she gets mean > He's burning like Augustine > With no help from God at all" > > One of those uniquely Joni rhyme schemes, > A-A-A-B-C-C-C-B. Love it. Don't know as I've ever > seen flagrant/vagrant/fragrant in that way, and then > using the word "Augustine" (and the reference, which > I will have to research) to get her "een" rhyme. He's burning like Augustine With no help from God at all St Paul to the Corinthians: "It's better to marry than to burn." (believing that being celibate was best but, rather than be tempted and give in to lust, then you should marry, as the lesser of two evils.) And then St Augustine, some centuries later, reaffirmed Paul's belief that sex was inherently sinful - original sin brought with it the disease of lust and sex was a threat to attaining spiritual perfection. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Subject: RE: Night of the Iguana - --- Bob Muller wrote: > Back to Joni's song, I also love this closing: > > "The night is so fragrant > These women so flagrant > They could make him a vagrant > With the flick of a shawl. > The devil's in sweet sixteen > The widow's good looking but she gets mean > He's burning like Augustine > With no help from God at all" > > One of those uniquely Joni rhyme schemes, > A-A-A-B-C-C-C-B. Love it. Me too. It's fun to read. It's bouncy, like a limerick. > ... and then > using the word "Augustine" (and the reference, which > I will have to research) to get her "een" rhyme. Oooh, St. Augustine. A womanizing drunk for decades whose mother Monica prayed and prayed, beseeching God to save him. And then Augustine stopped drinking. And went completely haywire from my point of view, becoming a monk and writing lots of theology that still influences the Catholic Church, and to some extent all Christian churches, in an extremely negative way. He apparently continued to be sex-obsessed, and spent years writing persuasive theological treatises about how we're all evil because of the way we're created. The sex act itself is bad bad bad. That's what he wrote around the year 300 AD (I think). The Church liked what he wrote so much they made him a saint. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: now with jc, Wally Lamb Publication Party / Lamb in Joni in Fiction - --- About Wally Lamb, Patti Parlette wrote: > If I get to talk to him, I'll ask him if he likes > Joni. (You *know* I'm not > kiddding!) ; ) Or better yet, ask him whether or not he was aware of the fact that Joni never made it to Woodstock. The following, which I cut and pasted from Joni in Fiction, seems to indicate that either Wally ddn't know that Joni was not there, or that his character Naomi was either deluded or lying in this passage: Naomi laughed. "That was the thing about Woodstock. You didn't think of people as individuals. We were all this . . . mass entity." "Oh," I said. "Right." She must have seen my disappointment. "I was two people back from Joni Mitchell in the portable toilet line, though," she said. "Joni Mitchell used the public toilets?" "Well, yeah. See, the whole point was that we're all one, you know? You and me and Joni and your tall, skinny friend: a bunch of equals sharing the same small planet. It was a rush - very political!" "Yeah," I said. "You bet your bippy." From Page 213: Pocket Books Paperback Edition Contributed by Kerry Nikutta 11/30/2004 * * * Add me to the list of people who like Wally Lamb, Patti. I would love to see a new work of fiction from him. XO, ma cherie amour. - --SoB . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:23:36 -0400 From: Janet Hess Subject: Joni Mitchell, Poet in "The New Yorker" Maybe I'm alone here on my planet, but I nearly fainted atop my KFC chicken breast when I opened today's "New Yorker" (yup, cover date of 9/17) to find, in the Table of Contents, under POEMS, "Joni Mitchell, 'Bad Dreams Are Good." And there, in black and white on page 72 of TNY, there's a Joni poem. Here's the bio from TNY "Contributors" page: "Joni Mitchell (Poem, p.72) is a musician, songwriter, and artist. She has won five Grammy awards. "Bad Dreams Are Good" comprises the lyrics of a song on her new album, "Shine," due out later this month." Am I the only person who has received this sign from God? Would you like your own sign from God? Try this: http://www.newyorker.com/fiction/poetry/2007/09/17/070917po_poem_mitchell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:29:33 -0500 From: "Happy The Man" Subject: Shine Makes Austin Debut Jody Denberg emailed saying he got "Shine" in the mail Tuesday. He said he was going to squeeze it in during his set which ends at 7:00 pm, but alas it didn't make it. Noticed on the archives it came on at close to 11:00p.m. And here I am in DFW. NP: Patty Griffin - Tony ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:44:01 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Night of the Iguana Forgive me for being ignorant - but what does NOTI stand for? Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Dflahm@aol.com Skickat: den 11 september 2007 21:48 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Fwd: Night of the Iguana ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Return-path: From: Dflahm@aol.com Full-name: Dflahm Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:47:02 EDT Subject: Re: Night of the Iguana To: emzdogz@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Well, from what I remember of the movie (Richard Burton, Ava Gardner, Deborah Kerr, Don Murray? Sue Lyon) the lyric tracks it quite thoroughly. I think NOTI is the best film ever made from a Tennessee Williams play. LAHM ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:45:33 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Night of the Iguana OOps, hadn't read all my mail before posting the question. Also, I'm not quite awake yet... Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Skickat: den 11 september 2007 21:31 Till: M C Kopia: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Re: Night of the Iguana Are you aware that the song is based on the Tennesse Williams story of the same name? It was also made into a film with Richard Burton & Ava Gardner. I have seen the movie, haven't read the book. Joni's lyrics pretty much mirror the action in the film, I'm not sure why she included it on Shine but I'm glad she did - it's a pleasant diversion from some of the darker material. It contains what I thought to be one of her funnier couplets: "Since the preacher's not dead Dead drunk will have to do!" I know that Blanche DuBois comes from TW's work - I can't recall if "Sweet Bird" is derived from his "Sweet Bird of Youth"...paging Richard Flynn... Bob NP: Joni, "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" (T-Log) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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It's bouncy, like a limerick. > ... and then > using the word "Augustine" (and the reference, which > I will have to research) to get her "een" rhyme. Oooh, St. Augustine. A womanizing drunk for decades whose mother Monica prayed and prayed, beseeching God to save him. And then Augustine stopped drinking. And went completely haywire from my point of view, becoming a monk and writing lots of theology that still influences the Catholic Church, and to some extent all Christian churches, in an extremely negative way. He apparently continued to be sex-obsessed, and spent years writing persuasive theological treatises about how we're all evil because of the way we're created. The sex act itself is bad bad bad. That's what he wrote around the year 300 AD (I think). The Church liked what he wrote so much they made him a saint. Debra Shea ________ ???!___________________________________________________________ - --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! 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