From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #351 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, September 9 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 351 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- NJC Fate of Atty.May's [Chuck Eisenhardt ] NJC Atty'May's picture [Chuck Eisenhardt ] Re: NJC Fate of Atty.May's [Bob Muller ] Re: RE : first time concerts (njc) [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Max Roach, njc [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: quote njc [Bob Muller ] shine in tomorrow's NewYork Times [Deb Messling ] Re: first time concerts (njc) [Em ] Re: RE : first time concerts (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC Fate of Atty.May's [Michael Paz ] RE: quote njc ["Kate Bennett" ] Re: shine in tomorrow's NewYork Times ["Randy Remote" ] Re: first time concerts (njc) ["Randy Remote" ] Re: NJC Fate of Atty.May's [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: first time concerts (njc) now Laura Love L-U-V Love [Em ] Re: first time concerts njc [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC- Cafes [Bob Muller ] quote njc ["Patti Parlette" ] njc, Dulcimers, The Netherlands and the NEW iPod Touch with added Starbucks ["Patti Parlette" ] NJC, Back to the Garden (or something like that....) ["Marianne Rizzo" ] njc, Praying for Peace with Willy ["Patti Parlette" Subject: NJC Fate of Atty.May's For those of you who missed it, Atty.May's was a singularly wonderful bar/restaurant just off the beach on Plum Island (Newburyport) that served as our home-away-from-home for several of the Northeast Fests. Paz and Kakki get the credit for discovering the place, sort of like a funky parrothead beach bar with a great menu and the best bloody's I've ever had (these were especially welcome the day after a Fest!) Typically we would bring our instruments and another whole jam would ensue. The name Atty.May's develops as namemsake of former Boston attorney Marianthi Chicklis (May) who bought the place and dropped out of the race. I'm really bummed to report that as we knew it, it is no more. It seems that some New York types (he runs Aeropostale, the clothing house) became interested in making over Plum Island in their vision. It was Jeanne Geiger's wish to make over the slightly ramshackle Island vibe (a good deal of it's charm) into a South Beach Nor'east. She bought up virtually every commercial establishment on the Island (the Inn, the mom and pop breakfast counter, the clam shack, the Beachcoma (another watering hole) and May's (and her clamshack across the street ) Then, she died. At 52, she fell off her balcony while cleaning up dog poop. Husband Julian has a business to run, and most of these establishments (save for the Inn) remain boarded up. Atty.May's was reopened (as Jeanne's) for the summer of 2006, but remained shuttered this year. May made out allright in the sale and now lives in Ameswbury. I think there's a picture of a bunch of us outside May's in 2001 or 2002 on the Fest site Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 08:54:11 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: NJC Atty'May's picture This was y2000. And in rereading the article I realize I was confusing the clamshack and the Club. it was the clamshack (which the article called Atty.May's) that reopened for a season, but the club (the Beachcoma) remains closed. Let's buy it! [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 0009-144.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 06:34:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC Fate of Atty.May's I'm sorry to hear that, Chuck - we did indeed have some great memories there - including getting tossed out! Just goes to show that you should always take advantage of opportunities when they present themselves, they may not be there the next time. Bob NP: Steely Dan demos - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:43:31 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: RE : first time concerts (njc) I'm not seeing anyone I haven't seen before. I didn't go to many concerts this summer/year whether they were national known artists or local artists. I am seeing Crosby & Nash next month though I saw them with Stills and Young last summer and I did see Stills alone this past June. I hope Neil Young gets around to my area so I can see him. He's stated he will be doing a mini tour starting October sometime (mini as in only 7 weeks!). I'd die to see Neil solo! (well....die after the show...not during as that would defeat the purpose....) I also wish I could have been around to have seen George Harrison in concert. He was something. Of course then again even if he was still alive it'd be doubtful he would have toured. He only did tour twice after parting with the Beatles and one of those times he wasn't even in the U.S! And as far as longing to see some folks in concert, I've already said I would sell my soul to see Joni live in a good setting (good meaning I can actually see her in god seats)........ - -Monika, going to Cedar Point today (an amusement park) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:03:22 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Re: Max Roach, njc Max was on so many great projects: Charlie Parker's famous "Koko" date (1945) Jazz at Massey Hall (w/ Parker, Gillespie, Powell, Mingus). Money Jungle (w/ Ellington, Mingus) Don't forget his Freedom Now! Suite (maybe called We Insist) with Hawkins, Abbey Lincoln and others (early 60s) LAHM ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 06:32:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: quote njc But not an actual quote from Reagan's diaries...for the full scoop: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp Bob NP: Steely Dan, Gaucho demos Kate Bennett wrote: "A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne'er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work." - -Ronald Reagan in his recently published diaries, May 17, 1986 - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:42:45 -0400 From: Deb Messling Subject: shine in tomorrow's NewYork Times It's online now and will be in the print edition tomorrow: September 9, 2007 Breaking Her Silence With a Dark Shine By JON PARELES FOR three decades Joni Mitchell wrote songs that were equally daring in their personal revelations and their musical restlessness. They traced a womans romantic and intellectual life in progress, from bright-eyed aspiration to cosmopolitan wanderlust to political bitterness, from folky sweetness to pop sheen to open-ended, jazzy excursions. Along the way her music spawned countless disciples and admirers, among them Herbie Hancock, who is releasing a tribute album, River: The Joni Letters. But after her 1998 album, Taming the Tiger, Ms. Mitchell fell silent as a songwriter. She was suffering from the muscle degeneration of post-polio syndrome, having had the disease as a child. She called the music business and its star-making machinery a cesspool, and she completed her major-label contract with albums of cover versions and remakes. Her last one was Travelogue in 2002. The album Shine, due out on Sept. 25, will break the silence. (Its the first release in a two-album deal with Starbucks Entertainments Hear Music label.) Describing its opening song, One Week Last Summer, Ms. Mitchell wrote on her Web site that she was in a house by the sea, looking at seals and flowers, when a bear arrived to rummage through her garbage. That night the piano beckoned for the first time in 10 years, she said. The new songs are not happy ones; they worry over war, the environment and a bleak future. Whats coming out of me is all sociological and theological complaint, she told an interviewer. But the music isnt strident; its inward-looking and rhythmically complex. Some of her new songs are part of The Fiddle and the Drum, a collaboration with the Alberta Ballet that is named after her antiwar song from 1970. The ballet also incorporates Ms. Mitchells paintings, which will be exhibited in New York this fall. As she makes her voice heard again  lower, darker and far more knowing  she continues her evolution from Candide, hoping for the best, to Cassandra, foreseeing disaster. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Deb Messling -^..^- dlmessling@rcn.com http://www.sensibleshoes.vox.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 08:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: first time concerts (njc) got to see Jorma and Jack up close and personal a few weeks ago, for the 1st time. Hot Tuna! great stuff...am thankful to have had that opportunity. I love those guys. :) Em - --- Kate Bennett wrote: > >Is anyone else catching any live shows this summer of an artist they > > have never seen before?< > > I saw the Prentenders a few weeks ago, wanted to see Heart but they > were > sold out :~{ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:37:38 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: RE : first time concerts (njc) On Sep 8, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Motitan@aol.com wrote: > I'm not seeing anyone I haven't seen before. I didn't go to many > concerts > this summer/year whether they were national known artists or local > artists. I > am seeing Crosby & Nash next month t I thought really hard about driving up to Asheville to see them but its on a Sunday night (9/30) and I have a Monday morning class at 9 that I can't really miss so it's probably a no go. Sixteen years ago, I remember driving 6+ hours to Richmond (VA) from Greensboro (NC) to see Jethro Tull...and turning around and driving back the same evening. But I was only 21 then and seemingly more capable of such things, plus I had a riding companion. If Muller was up for it, he might be able to twist my arm and I would go but it doesn't seem very likely. Speaking of upcoming shows, Crowded House will be here in Atlanta next Wednesday night. Again, its very tempting but I just don't know if I could swing it in the middle of the week. Plus I'll surely be already pretty focused on Stevie Wonder(Friday night) by then...oversaturation isn't always a good thing. Need a little space between shows. Which is why I almost certainly wasn't going to see the Cure on the 15th, which has been postponed anyway. I think its important to give yourself a little time to take it all in...let it unwind. The concert doesn't always end when it ends. Victor NP: Vienna Teng - Morning Comes ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:40:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: RE : first time concerts (njc) To see Crosby & Nash? Given that they haven't done anything worth hearing in the last 30 years, I'd rather spend my $$ on someone more current. Bob NP: Ryan Shaw, "I'll Be Satisfied" (Whoa, this is good stuff!) - --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:41:58 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC Fate of Atty.May's How sad! The end of an era, but jolly good for May. You scared the crap out of me Chuck as you now know cause I called you on the phone thinking that you meant that May had fallen off the balcony. Still very sad for the new owner lady. I wonder if one of the ghosts pushed her off the balcony?? I posted some old pics from my collection of happier days at may. You can find them on the Northeast Groups site under the photo section. Be sure to check out the picture inside Atty may's Beachcoma Bar of the ghosts that were always hanging out there. Have a happy weekend all. Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 8, 2007, at 7:44 AM, Chuck Eisenhardt wrote: For those of you who missed it, Atty.May's was a singularly wonderful bar/restaurant just off the beach on Plum Island (Newburyport) that served as our home-away-from-home for several of the Northeast Fests. Paz and Kakki get the credit for discovering the place, sort of like a funky parrothead beach bar with a great menu and the best bloody's I've ever had (these were especially welcome the day after a Fest!) Typically we would bring our instruments and another whole jam would ensue. The name Atty.May's develops as namemsake of former Boston attorney Marianthi Chicklis (May) who bought the place and dropped out of the race. I'm really bummed to report that as we knew it, it is no more. It seems that some New York types (he runs Aeropostale, the clothing house) became interested in making over Plum Island in their vision. It was Jeanne Geiger's wish to make over the slightly ramshackle Island vibe (a good deal of it's charm) into a South Beach Nor'east. She bought up virtually every commercial establishment on the Island (the Inn, the mom and pop breakfast counter, the clam shack, the Beachcoma (another watering hole) and May's (and her clamshack across the street ) Then, she died. At 52, she fell off her balcony while cleaning up dog poop. Husband Julian has a business to run, and most of these establishments (save for the Inn) remain boarded up. Atty.May's was reopened (as Jeanne's) for the summer of 2006, but remained shuttered this year. May made out allright in the sale and now lives in Ameswbury. I think there's a picture of a bunch of us outside May's in 2001 or 2002 on the Fest site Chuck __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Visit Your Group Shedding Pounds on Yahoo! Groups Read sucess stories & share your own. Yahoo! Groups Be a Better Planet Share with others Help the Planet. Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central get help and provide feedback on Groups. . __,_._,___ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:13:13 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] NJC Fate of Atty.May's So many of my favorite memories are from Plum Island....staying there with Kakki, Paz, and Nikki (documented in the song Parsonage Lane- see below), jamming on a song with Les...Jackaroe I think? and being stopped in the very middle of the song by the overzealous management of Atty May's for being too rowdy...OMGYGTBFK, and driving back to New England with Jody, after a jonifest at Full Moon, stopping at Plum Island, walking out to the beach, being chewed out by a local pickup truck yahoo for laughing at him as he managed to somehow fit his entire truck into a cross walk, and eating dinner at the restaurant across the street, watching the sun set.... so many memories... Victor NP: Grateful Dead - Mexicali Blues " 4 am on Plum Island Singing to the dawn We walk towards the water Through the heavy sand But I know that I must soon go Wander among the clouds Where the roads go on forever They always take me home" VLJ On Sep 8, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > How sad! The end of an era, but jolly good for May. You scared the > crap out of me Chuck as you now know cause I called you on the phone > > thinking that you meant that May had fallen off the balcony. Still > very sad for the new owner lady. I wonder if one of the ghosts > pushed her > off the balcony?? I posted some old pics from my collection of > happier days at may. You can find them on the Northeast Groups site > under the > photo section. Be sure to check out the picture inside Atty may's > Beachcoma Bar of the ghosts that were always > hanging out there. Have a happy weekend all. > > Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 16:52:02 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: On a Joni mission Regarding our dear siste Annie Lennox (who also relaeses an album approximately at the same time as Joni, according to the information provided by Amazon) In her past she said: "You can fool with your brother - But don't mess with a missionary man." Ten years ago, I was kind of a christian missionary man. I was young. I was idealistic. And I had a strong belief I wanted to share, wherever and whenever. It was a rich time in many ways. I spoke to all kinds of people, and got to know people very different from myself, they teached me, after a while, that things weren't black and white. So after a while I gave up on my mission. It didn't feel right. It feels like such a long time has passed, but really it's just ten years, just so many things have happened. Coming out of the gay closet, for one, as maybe the most important feature to my life and ny bekief. Now thes days, I really sucks as a christian missionary. I'm not doing any mission at all. Doesn't feel right, doesn't feel me. And it feels good not to, because I feel that people have to find their beliefs themselves, it's no help me forcing anything on anyone... Although I've made some exceptions. When there is things I'm burning with interest and enthusiams for, than I'm happy again to be a missionary man. These days my main-mission is to read and evaluate books and to recomend the tremoundously web-site www.onskebok.no (http://www.whichbook.net/) But I'm also a Joni missionary man. So yesterday I went to this christian-gay church I sometimes attend to. And there was a party afterwards and we started taking about obsessed music lovers/fans. One was shocked about Elvis fans who goes to Graceland in sort of a pilgrimage. Others talked about the Abba Museum that are soon being built, and about how likely it would be that fans would go on a pilgrimage to Sweden too. Then, I couldn't help nyself, I just had to get out of the closet as a Joni fan. I said: "I'm such a fan, I'm such a fan who would take a mortage just to see Joni in concert if I had a chance." Poeple looked at me amazed, and a bit shocked, 'till this guy supported me and said "Oh yeah, Joni is great, you should really go if you had the chance..." And I told the "Oh well Joni is releasing a new album in end of september" One older guy asked me what the album was called and I told him "Shine" And I asked them if anyone knew Rudyad Kiplings poem "If" which is being featured on the disc. The one who knew it said that he was really into Cat Stevens (or Yusuf Islam) an we agreed that the seventies was such a great time for music. I threw in a good word for the faboulous Sandy Denny (Fairport Convention) before I threw in the towel. Quite satisfied. The old missionary man strikes again, but not for God this time, this time it's for Joni. And I*'m sure I can do a good Herbie Hancock mission as well..... So To all of you with all kinds of predjudism and traumas with missionary men, I hope you can apologize me for bringing in the term. I just did it, to show that it can also be attended on Joni. And it made me very happy (-: So there. Have a great week-end Love ! Oddmund, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:49:29 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: quote njc Ooppss, I should have checked first. Thanks Bob. _____ From: Bob Muller [mailto:scjoniguy@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 6:33 AM To: Kate Bennett; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: quote njc But not an actual quote from Reagan's diaries...for the full scoop: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kinsley.asp Bob NP: Steely Dan, Gaucho demos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:33:43 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: shine in tomorrow's NewYork Times From: "Deb Messling" > The new songs are not happy ones; they worry over war, the environment and > a bleak future. Whats coming out of me is all sociological and > theological complaint, she told an interviewer. So we can call her a folk singer now....? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 07:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Kerry Subject: first time concerts njc >Victor writes: >Is anyone else catching any live shows this summer of an artist they >have never seen before? I was lucky enough to get Ani Difranco tickets for my birthday. While I have been to a few Ani shows before, Melissa Ferrick, who I've never seen before, is opening for her. I've heard a lot about her, so I'm excited.... Also, I was so happy to get to finally get to see Joan Armatrading in June. What a treat! Kerry - --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:30:41 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: first time concerts (njc) Didn't go to alot of shows, but first times: Regina Carter Quintet Laura Love Band Martin Pahinui & George Ku'o ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:37:16 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Fate of Atty.May's I missed the first year at Atty May's, but I do remember the following year when we were kicked out. I guess Jonifests had grown too big for management. My fondest memories were walking on the beach with John, Claudia, Muller, and Murphy, and talking outside Atty May's with Marcel and his wife Soixic. Then laughing at the MESSY room that Kakki, Paz, Victor, and I think Jodi were staying in. Atty May's itself was too crowded, and after we got kicked out, it was well worth it to get back to Ashara's house. Still I know what you mean, Chuckie. It's so sad when these quaint little places get taken over by big condos, etc.... happy weekend everyone, Jimmy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:17:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: first time concerts (njc) now Laura Love L-U-V Love how was Laura? was it full band? or just her and Jenn? (little band) I will see her again in a couple months down here. She was quite amazing when I saw her before. Em - --- Randy Remote wrote: > Didn't go to alot of shows, but first times: > > Regina Carter Quintet > Laura Love Band > Martin Pahinui & George Ku'o > "You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm." Sidonie Gabrielle Colette ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:58:42 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: first time concerts (njc) now Laura Love L-U-V Love Yes, it was her 4 or 5 pc band- I did not know she played bass-seemingly effortlessly. I love her voice and she really got the crowd worked up at the Kate Wolf Mem Festival. She was also very funny. Very enjoyable performance. From: "Em" > how was Laura? was it full band? or just her and Jenn? (little band) > I will see her again in a couple months down here. She was quite > amazing when I saw her before. > Em > > --- Randy Remote wrote: > >> Didn't go to alot of shows, but first times: >> >> Regina Carter Quintet >> Laura Love Band >> Martin Pahinui & George Ku'o >> > > > "You will do foolish things, but do them with enthusiasm." > > Sidonie Gabrielle Colette ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 23:18:12 +0200 From: "Jonathan Lowe" Subject: NJC- Cafes I just realised after that the acute-accent "e" in "cafe" on my last post comes out as "i" so now you all think I can't spell! Why does it do that? Serves me right for trying to be smart... Jonathan [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:16:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: first time concerts njc Lucky indeed - I'd love to hear your report. Did you get her latest "Bootleg" live CD? It's one of the best ones she's done so far imo - I love the sound of the vibes that she includes. Bob NP: Neil Young, "Broadway" - --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:13:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: NJC- Cafes Smoe doesn't recognize some of those symbols, so when you type them in it translates them into something else. Don't worry about it, spelling isn't that important here - we're a pretty forgiving bunch. Bob NP: Grandaddy, "Saddest Vacant Lot In All The World" - --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 23:52:28 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: quote njc WARNING: POLITICAL CONTENT Kate Bennett shared: "A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne'er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work." - - -Ronald Reagan in his recently published diaries, May 17, 1986 *** Holy merde! They all knew what he was! The shiftless, ne'er-do-well son. If only he *had* called Kinsley. Now they have foisted him off on the whole world and he is the "The Decider." OMG. He's got a "real job" now, and what a mess he has made. If I had a heart, I'd cry. But to turn this around and throw some lightness on these things, seeing Reagan's name reminds me of a funny moment at my son's wedding. His best friend was doing the toast, saying that Chris picked a wonderful woman and was kind of "marrying up." He said: "Just like Ronald Reagan said he married Nancy. SORRY, PATTI!" The people there that know me slapped their knees and roared with laughter. Nothing like a little light-hearted fun when you're doing a wedding toast....I'm alway a little nervous for the "toaster", knowing that s/he is usually just a kid not used to public speaking and is probably nervous as hell. So this was a really nice ice-breaker for the "toaster". Another RR thing (not you, Randy!): when I saw CSNY "one week last summer", Graham introduced Military Madness (I think it was that one) by yelling out: "This one's for YOU, Reagan. YOU started this SHIT!" (He was very passionate.) He also changed the words a bit when he sang: "I hope George Bush discovers what's driving the people wild." Roar of the crowd again! One more RR story (intending no disrespect to the dead or to those who liked him....just a funny story, okay please?). When Chris was in first grade (six times round the seasons), Geraldine Ferraro (who was the first woman to run for VP in the USA) came to Waterbury, CT on a Sunday night. I brought him, even though it was a school night, wanting him to see that women can do anything a man can do. (TIC: A woman must have everything....LOL!) Teach your children well, you know? The car broke down, but we didn't give up. When you're on a mission, you're on a mission, right? Darn right. We got a ride from a relative and waited over 3 hours for her to come. During those 3 hours in the hot overcrowded h.s. gym, people were talking and trying to pass the hours and once in a while this chant went up: Ronald Reagan He's no good! Send him back to Hollywood! Chris loved that one and when we got back to town, he and his friends would yell it out of the windows from the backseat of our vehicle whenever we drove around. We still laugh about that. Wishing you all a bon weekend, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:18:20 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Dulcimers, The Netherlands and the NEW iPod Touch with added Starbucks Jonathan wrote: Thanks for all the kind words of welcome. Not sure how many Europeans there are on here in total, but there seems to be quite a few of us. I travel around quite a bit with my job, so maybe we can arrange some hiding behind bottles in dark cafis sometime... **** Hi Jonathan! Allow me to join the chorus of people making you "welcome in." And I see you do a little Joni quoting, too. That happens occasionally around here. And I do hope some of you can meet up....going cafe to caberet...you know the rest of the words, of course. "Maybe I'll go to Amsterdam..." I love the Netherlands and went there 3 times when I lived in Europe for a year. I spent Christmas 1974 there with MOA and my boyfriend and we had Gouda and Heineken and other nice Dutch things for Christmas "dinner" on a park bench. And soft-boiled eggs in those beautiful little Delft Blue egg cups for breakfast. I bought some of those home. I loved the shops and the cobblestone streets and the canals and bridges and bikes and the people and the energy and the language-- everything! What a swinging hot spot! And Keukenhof (Court's Kitchen) in April...all those bright flowers in a riot of colors (colors go dancing in time). I've never seen so many flowers at once. Fiery gems! You also wrote: "I have a new incentive to get better again because my daughter just started piano lessons and expects me to play duets with her (she's 6 next week). She loves music as much as I do and I am of course playing her all my favourite "proper" music already by burning personal CDs with my favourites on- A Case of You featured on the first one." Good Joni Dad! As Marion welcomes you as another European, I welcome you as another Joni parent. And what a sweet image. I can picture your little girl at the piano, with daddy encouraging her. I'm seeing a Renoir painting now (even though the girl is older than six): http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.expo-shop.com/product/PGREN677.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.expo-shop.com/nl/2_2.cfm%3Fcfid%3D255739%26cftoken%3D69045567%26id%3D-427371844&h=533&w=400&sz=51&hl=en&start=18&tbnid=edB6FTEqVIdlaM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djeunes%2Bfilles%2Bau%2Bpiano%2Brenoir%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG (Oh, my. What a long link...but it works. I tried it.) Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:35:17 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: shine This is beautiful Kakki, How did you get a copy? >true Joni duality mode, it is like the lyrics are the shadows but the music >is >the light. Since there is light with the darkness, it tells me Joni still >hopes and tries to reach the heart and spirit. This is some of the best >music >she has ever composed - it is really a mindblower. this is beautiful. . . Marianne ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:44:43 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: NJC, Back to the Garden (or something like that....) welcome back Cindy. I love pennies. I love copper. Marianne Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:52:33 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: NJC, Back to the Garden (or something like that....) Cindy Vickery wrote: Hi all! Like a bad penny, I've turned up again. **** Or a shiny penny! (Must look at both sides, now.) Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes. There beneath the blue suburban skies I sit, and mean while back _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:06:56 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: From Leonard Cohen, now sjc? Hola Miguel y otros Joniamigos! Muchas gracias for the Leonard Cohen words on parenting. And I welcome you, too, as another Joni parent! (I have a photograph of Joni hugging Leonard Cohen and his guitar right here on my wall. She has a huge smile and is wearing a striped shirt and a mini-skirt, and funny pointy Sixties shoes.) He said (on parenting): "There are many marvelous aspects of course; the beauty is indisputable. But the destruction of your self image is inevitable." Both sides now, of course. I'm thinking of that old Marine ad (was it the Marines?): "It's the toughest job you'll ever love." Joni has accompanied me on my parenting journey, helping me keep my "self" intact....albeit a little hidden for a few years, but still there throughout all the damned hockey games (which I actually loved.) Now that my kids are grown and gone (like the turn of a page) I am now free to go back and see what I missed from her. She was always there, though (yellow checkers for the nursery, if not the kitchen) and of course lots of Joni music in the background. I could write a book on parenting w/ Joni, but will just share a few things tonight. 1. At my new daughter-in-law's bridal luncheon I had to give a little speech. I was not prepared for that, and got choked up, of course, and blurted out that "I have always tried to raise my sons to be emotionally honest, and to speak from their hearts." Holy Merde! I was raising them to be like Joni, and I didn't even know it. 2. My oldest son always jokes that HE is writing a book and the title will be: "How I Was Raised by a Crazy Joni Mother, But Still Turned Into a Genius." (I suggested that the subtitle should be: What's So Strange When You Know You're A Wizard At Three?") Miguel, you also wrote: "I think that the real sad thing are those children without the care and the protection parenthood shoul provide, especially in the earlier years." Oh yes, that is the very saddest thing. My younger son works with adolescents and so many of them are very troubled. How do you make up for bad parenting, especially the negligence and lack of love? He took 4 very troubled boys on a white-water camping trip and they said it was the best time they ever had. Their parents were glad to get rid of them. I find that heartbreaking. How can you teach the children well when they come from such dysfunctional homes? I was lucky to stay home with each of my sons for 3 or so years. Expensive, but priceless. You know those social security statements we get in the U.S.? (You probably don't of course, but we get them.) Mine is so telling. A portrait of For Love or Money! 1976: $5,000 or something 1977: $2,000 1978: 0 1979: 0 1980: 0 1981: $3,000 or something 1982: $6,000 or something 1983: $8,000 or something 1984: $3,000 or something 1985: 0 1986: 0 1987: $1,000 or something 1988: it starts to climb again Some watch their kids grow up Some watch their stocks and bonds Waiting for that big deal American Dream...and some cherish those "zero years". (NPIMH: Can you tell me how to get to Sesame Street?) And then, on a magic night, your oldest son will dance to you at his wedding to Circle Game (probably one of the happiest moments of my life that I will share with you someday when I process it all), and the other will call when he hears that SHINE is to be released on September 25th. Yet before those magic moments, when it was really hard work and earaches at 2 a.m. and terrible twos and driving them all over the place w/ no time for yourself and the teenaged angst and cartwheels turn to car wheels (I worry sometimes!) and occasional hostile comments ("You don't know ANYTHING about life!"....LOL!): But you keep your feelings deep inside You talk of them and think of pride Now is the wrong time But maybe if a dozen days are warm and right You'll hear them say in a Mother's Day card: Dear Mom, Words cannot express how thankful we are to have such a caring and loving mother. All of your hard work and dedication has not been overlooked, and we are who we are today as a result of your selfess efforts. Thank you and enjoy the grill. Love, C & M (tears in my eyes now) I call it my Barangrill! I'm grateful to Joni for keeping it all real. No matter what your life has been like -- kids or no kids -- I know you all will always feel the same. Love her forever, and forever, love her with all our hearts... And she's coming back with MORE! Seventeen more days, is it? Love & Peace, Patti P. NPOMTV (no sound): UConn 38, Maine 0 (both of my boys got to go to UConn, "for free", and we love our Huskies) P.S. Look, Ma! No politics! I agree with you about Cohen being interesting to be read and listened. Not so much with the rest... Most of the people don't know if they do or don't want to have children untill they actually do; I do have mine and I'm quite proud of have been mature enough to have them when it was the right time, not for accident or just because I didn't think too much about the subject. Cohen seems to have a deep sight of the whole process, he mention it in various ways along the conversation, like in the following part: "It is only when you have children that you're truly forced to give up looking only at yourself and start worrying about some other lives. If you attempt to respond to a child, you can never think of yourself in the same way again. You stop being the center of your drama, which becomes very secondary in light of your children's needs, of their urgency. I understood right away that the trap had slammed shut (laughs)... There are many marvelous aspects of course; the beauty is indisputable. But the destruction of your self image is inevitable. There were many things that I didn't like about myself. I was very selfish, I was only concerned with myself. I wouldn't admit that other beings were legitimately worth my attention." Just read the whole article. But he also talks about how much he enjoys their company now, or how he took care of his ailed son at hospital. My wife would say it's easier once they don't need changing diapers every two hours :) I think that the real sad thing are those children without the care and the protection parenthood shoul provide, especially in the earlier years. That's why I respect Joni decission about giving her daughter to adoption, I know too many sanctimonious parents that would yell at that idea, but never give any attention to what their kids really need. Regards, Miguel _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 05:34:13 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Praying for Peace with Willy I finally had time on my hands (everybody's working for the weekend!) to get more information on this: Graham Nash Tuesday, October 16 6:30 pm Prelude Prayers 7:30 pm Concert with Chief Stephen Adkins, Sheikh Ahmad Bahraini, Jackson Browne, David Crosby, Krishna Das, John Hall, Gyumed Khensur Rinpoche Lobsang Jampa, Imam Mohamed Magid, Ruth Messinger (invited), Keb Mo, Emily Saliers, Rabbi David Saperstein (invited), the Rev. Mpho Tutu and others. (I saw Keb' Mo' for the first time last summer when he opened for Bonnie. He was great! And so, of course, was Bonnie. She loved him.) Powerful aspirations for peace flow through music and prayer alike. Join us for this interfaith celebration in honor of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, on the eve of his receipt of the Congressional Gold Medal. Renowned musicians and prominent religious leaders will join to express our collective desire for peace in song and spiritual wisdom from diverse traditions. (Photo of Graham Nash by Pam Springsteen) http://www.cathedral.org/cathedral/register/prayforpeace2007f.shtml Peace, Patti P. NPIMH: Cathedral _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo. 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_MSNHMTxt_1 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #351 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------