From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #350 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, September 8 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 350 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- crowded house NJC [Mags ] Dulcimers, The Netherlands and the NEW iPod Touch with added Starbucks (i.e. SHINE) WiFi Downloads ["Jonatha] RE: crowded house NJC [Cindy Vickery ] Re: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) ["Miguel Arrondo" ] Joni mention in a college paper [Joseph Palis ] first time concerts (njc) ["Kate Bennett" ] quote njc ["Kate Bennett" ] SV: Dulcimers, The Netherlands and the NEW iPod Touch with added Starbucks (i.e. SHINE) WiFi Downloads ["Marion Le] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:33:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Mags Subject: crowded house NJC Victor asked: Is anyone else catching any live shows this summer of an artist they have never seen before? to which I reply: tomorrow night, going to see Crowded House here in Winnipeg. (insert school girl squeal!!). a very nice gift from a friend of spirit. (the tickets, not the squeal ;-) shall do a wee report afterward. Victor, have a wonderful time at the Dave concert, I look forward to your post concert thoughts. Mags - --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 01:53:40 +0200 From: "Jonathan Lowe" Subject: Dulcimers, The Netherlands and the NEW iPod Touch with added Starbucks (i.e. SHINE) WiFi Downloads Thanks for all the kind words of welcome. Not sure how many Europeans there are on here in total, but there seems to be quite a few of us. I travel around quite a bit with my job, so maybe we can arrange some hiding behind bottles in dark cafis sometime... Catherine mentions the dulcimer and I recall that BBC In Concert with Joni telling her story of that instrument made for her and playing the thing so well on California. She seems so young and a little nervous when she spoke, but she played and sang so confidently and there were certainly signs of her non-nonsense character even then. This is still the only live footage I have outside of the commercial releases- can anyone point me in the direction of more? The Netherlands is indeed a grand place to live- we have been here almost 7 years. We live in a small town about 20 miles from Amsterdam so we have city and country both close by. Michael asked if I am a musician- in spirit and interest but not really in fact. I can read music and play a little piano/ keyboard and clarinet/ sax, but I'm not good at any of it. I downloaded Dave Blackburn's piano arrangement of Blue from the website a few weeks ago and am slowly working on it. I have a new incentive to get better again because my daughter just started piano lessons and expects me to play duets with her (she's 6 next week). She loves music as much as I do and I am of course playing her all my favourite "proper" music already by burning personal CDs with my favourites on- A Case of You featured on the first one. I like a lot of music, so this is a life's work, but other favourite artists are Ben Folds, Tori Amos, Bruce Springsteen (trying to get tix for Antwerp from 9am tomorrow), Tom Waits, Gerry Rafferty, The Blue Nile, Rickie Lee Jones and Paul Simon. Have been watching almost an hour of Steve Jobs showing off the new iPods tonight. Apple is teaming up with Starbucks to offer access to the music that Starbucks plays in its cafis through their new iTunes Wifi Download service and their new iPod Touch (touchscreen iPod with WiFi, web, etc- really nice-looking gadget). The way it works is that you walk into Starbucks and can audition and then download any song they are playing, have recently played, or which is in their catalogue. It occurs to me that this will give a BIG boost to the sales of Shine. I know how some of you folks feel about Starbucks and Joni's move to them, but this could be great for the record's exposure, and should lead to a new generation of fans. Well, this has been a pretty long post and now I need to go to bed as I have some serious internet ticket-buying action tomorrow. Just imagine when the Joni tour is announced (well I can dream). I have never seen her live and have read enviously the reminiscences of some of you lucky folks who have. Have a great weekend, Jonathan NP: Feist, "1234" (from the new iPod nano ad) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 19:42:21 -0500 From: Cindy Vickery Subject: RE: crowded house NJC Wow!!! I expect a full report! Cindy, a little green > tomorrow night, going to see Crowded House here in Winnipeg. (insert school girl squeal!!). a very nice gift from a friend of spirit. (the tickets, not the squeal > ;-) > > shall do a wee report afterward. > > > > Mags _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo. 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. Its our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 23:22:05 -0300 From: "Miguel Arrondo" Subject: Re: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) I agree with you about Cohen being interesting to be read and listened. Not so much with the rest... Most of the people don't know if they do or don't want to have children untill they actually do; I do have mine and I'm quite proud of have been mature enough to have them when it was the right time, not for accident or just because I didn't think too much about the subject. Cohen seems to have a deep sight of the whole process, he mention it in various ways along the conversation, like in the following part: "It is only when you have children that you're truly forced to give up looking only at yourself and start worrying about some other lives. If you attempt to respond to a child, you can never think of yourself in the same way again. You stop being the center of your drama, which becomes very secondary in light of your children's needs, of their urgency. I understood right away that the trap had slammed shut (laughs)... There are many marvelous aspects of course; the beauty is indisputable. But the destruction of your self image is inevitable. There were many things that I didn't like about myself. I was very selfish, I was only concerned with myself. I wouldn't admit that other beings were legitimately worth my attention." Just read the whole article. But he also talks about how much he enjoys their company now, or how he took care of his ailed son at hospital. My wife would say it's easier once they don't need changing diapers every two hours :) I think that the real sad thing are those children without the care and the protection parenthood shoul provide, especially in the earlier years. That's why I respect Joni decission about giving her daughter to adoption, I know too many sanctimonious parents that would yell at that idea, but never give any attention to what their kids really need. Regards, Miguel - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "anon anon" Para: ; Enviado: Viernes, 07 de Septiembre de 2007 04:40 p.m. Asunto: RE: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) > I always find Leonard Cohen an interetsing person to read about and hear him > talk, but it's sad that he didn't personally want children... > > > >From: > >Reply-To: > >To: joni@smoe.org > >Subject: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) > >Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:22:24 -0300 > > > >Hello everybody, I'd like to share some wisdom from Leonard Cohen, in my > >opinion, one of the few who may match Joni when it comes to songs, poetry > >and intellect. > > > >An excerpt from an interview: > >"Sometimes I vote. You know, I live a thousand different lives. But those > >things aren't terribly important. Sometimes I vote, sometimes I think about > >politics, sometimes I read the papers, sometimes I have an opinion, > >sometimes I make decisions, sometimes I'm very active. I have been known to > >do all that... But it is like someone who finds themselves in the middle of > >an ocean and they grab onto a piece of wood. Eventually they can lift up > >their eyes and see that the sky is blue, watch birds fly by, make signs to > >someone else on another piece of wood but their principal concern is to > >hang on when the waves come. Their conversation may sometimes go towards > >other things but underneath their talk is only one true concern: to hang > >on. That is how I feel about my life. That something very urgent and > >dangerous demands all my attention and everything else is superficial. It > >isn't a very seductive belief to admire or imitate but it's the truth. It > >is hard for me to hang on. Maybe it > >would be a good idea to let go of that piece of wood. Maybe I would > >discover that I swim perfectly well in the storms and the floods. But I > >don't think so. In any case, I'm not taking the risk. So most of my energy > >goes into hanging onto that piece of wood and to the other people that hang > >to the same piece of wood, to whom I have responsibilities." > > > >The complete interview can be found at > > > >http://www.webheights.net/speakingcohen/throat.htm > > > >Saludos, > >Miguel > > > >----- Mensaje original ----- > >De: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) > >Fecha: Miircoles, Septiembre 5, 2007 4:00 am > >Asunto: JMDL Digest V2007 #346 > > > > > > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 5 2007 Volume 2007 : > > > Number 346 > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > > -------- > > > Re:, Across the Universe [Mark-Leon Thorne > > leon@iinet.net.au>] Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this > > > week... ["P. Henry" > > njc- Millions to be spent in bid to understand what happens when > > > people make off-the-cuff music together [Ka] > > > welcome back mark NJC [Mags > > > ] UK shine purchasers > > > ["Paul Headon" ] > > > Re: njc- off-the-cuff music [Victor Johnson > > > ] South Florida Folk Festival > > > [OzWoman321@aol.com] > > > Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc ["Randy > > > Remote" > > Blue On Blue > > > [Motitan@aol.com] This Flight cover > > > ["Lindsay Moon" ] > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --- > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:28:28 +1000 > > > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > > > Subject: Re:, Across the Universe > > > > > > Hey Mark. Hello to Travis too. I certainly remember you. I didn't > > > realise you dropped of in fact. I thought you'd just gone quiet > > > for a > > > while. > > > > > > Welcome back anyhow from Mark in Sydney (just a little further > > > west > > > than WA) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:34:55 +1000 (ChST) > > > From: "P. Henry" > > > Subject: Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this week... > > > > > > No doubt about it, Michael. You nailed it and they totally missed > > > it. > > > It's perfectly obvious. Good call my friend. > > > > > > It was a pretty nice concert overall. BTW, the liner notes have a few > > > points of interest regarding that particular moment in history: > > > > > > "Concert Summary > > > > > > David Crosby - vocals, guitars > > > Graham Nash - vocals, guitars, keyboards > > > Stephen Stills - vocals, guitars, keyboards > > > Neil Young - vocals, guitars, keyboards > > > Tim Drummond - vocals, bass > > > Russ Kunkel - drums > > > Joe Lala - percussion, congas > > > Joni Mitchell - backing vocals on "Another Sleep Song" and "Our House" > > > > > > When Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young abruptly split apart at the end > > > of 1970, > > > it seemed as though the worlds first supergroup would become yet > > > anothercasualty of drugs, alcohol, egotism, greed, and political > > > infighting that > > > had become so familiar in the world of rock stars. By the end of their > > > initial run (1968 through 1970), CSNY was known as much for their > > > backstage fistfights and legendary episodes of drug abuse, as they > > > werefor two brilliant studio albums (Crosby, Stills & Nash and > > > Dij` Vu), and > > > the multi-platinum double live LP, 4 Way Street. The group, which > > > oftensang about love and peace, had gotten to the point where they > > > couldnteven travel together on tour. > > > > > > Thats why, when the much ballyhooed 1974 Reunion Tour was announced, > > > music industry insiders doubted the group could stay together long > > > enoughto even finish it. But David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham > > > Nash and Neil > > > Young proved everyone wrong. Not only did they complete the tour, > > > they did > > > it without a single major fight or argument. And though it would > > > be 14 > > > more years before all four members toured together again, they > > > managed to > > > play 36 stadium-sized shows to over one and a half million > > > enthusiasticfans. > > > > > > There had been a slew of solo albums in the period between 4 Way > > > Streetand this tour, and the group used their individual solo hits > > > to supplement > > > the already large CSNY repertoire. Opening with a lively version > > > of "Love > > > The One You're With," (a 1970 solo hit for Stills), and offering > > > up group > > > arrangements of "Immigration Man" (a hit from the first > > > Crosby/Nash duo > > > LP); "Military Madness" (from Nashs first solo album); "Johnny's > > > Garden"(from Stills II); "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" (from > > > the classic Young > > > LP, After The Gold Rush), and "Lee Shore" (from David Crosbys If > > > I Could > > > Only Remember My Name LP). > > > > > > Although more than half of the show was not included in this > > > recording,and there are certainly a great number of mistakes heard > > > here (despite a > > > solid month of rehearsals prior to the tour, the groups vocals > > > are often > > > flat, due probably to problems with the monitor system used for > > > stadiumsound systems), this recording is historic nonetheless. > > > Since no official > > > group live album was ever released from this tour, this remains > > > one of the > > > few professional recordings of the bands 74 trek. Although show > > > stopperslike "Pre Road Downs," "Dij` Vu," and "Long Time Gone," > > > were left off the > > > Biscuit show there is still plenty of CSNY classics included, > > > among them > > > "Wooden Ships," "Helpless," "Almost Cut My Hair," "Teach Your > > > Children"and "Our House" (with backup vocals from Joni Mitchell, > > > who shared this > > > bill with CSN&Y and others). This recording ends with Neil Youngs > > > "Hawaiian Sunrise," which is anti-climatic after the > > > aforementioned hits > > > had been played. But all in all, it is a testament of how four > > > incrediblytalented solo artists could figure out how to make it > > > all work as a band." > > > > > > All The Best, > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > "The last time I saw Joni was Detroit in '68..." > > > http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ > > > > > > - --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Hi Pat- > > > > > > > > Is that Joni on Only Love Can Break Your Heart? I listened to that > > > > whole show I can swear it sounds like her on background vox even tho > > > > it does not list her in the credits. > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > Paz > > > > Michael Paz > > > > michael@thepazgroup.com > > > > > > > > Tour Manager > > > > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > > > > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:48:03 -0500 > > > From: Kate Johnson > > > Subject: njc- Millions to be spent in bid to understand what > > > happens when people make off-the-cuff music together > > > > > > Since a lot of you are musicians, I thought you might find this of > > > > > > interest: > > > > > > University research project in a jam > > > Millions to be spent in bid to understand what happens when people > > > > > > make off-the-cuff music together > > > ELIZABETH CHURCH > > > September 3, 2007 > > > > > > Musicians from Mali, Mexico, Canada and the United States will > > > meet > > > for the first time later this week on a stage in Guelph, Ont., to > > > make music together. Their improvisational performance, part of an > > > > > > annual jazz festival in the city northwest of Toronto, is also the > > > > > > jumping-off point for a multimillion-dollar research project that > > > seeks to understand what happens when an ad hoc group of people > > > make > > > off-the-cuff music together. The goal: to replicate that > > > experience > > > in other areas as diverse as architecture and medical research. > > > > > > "When it works, it is quite wondrous," says Ajay Heble, the > > > University of Guelph English professor leading the project. He is > > > also the artistic director of the jazz festival. > > > > > > "Improvisation can be a model for new ways of understanding," said > > > > > > Prof. Heble, a musician himself. "A group of people who may have > > > never met, who know very little about one another - may not even > > > speak the same language - can create inspired music. What makes it > > > > > > work and what does this tell us? These are the kinds of questions > > > we > > > are asking." > > > > > > The $4-million project, to be announced tomorrow, will span seven > > > years and bring together 33 researchers in a variety of fields > > > plus > > > 12 community groups. Participants come from Canada, the United > > > States, England and Australia. The bulk of the funding is provided > > > by > > > the federal government, with a $2.5-million grant from the Social > > > Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. (The seven- > > > year > > > grant is the largest awarded by the federal agency and is given to > > > > > > between two and four major projects each year.) > > > > > > > > > The University of Guelph, McGill University, the University of > > > British Columbia and the University of Montreal are also providing > > > > > > funding, as are several private foundations and partners. > > > > > > In a society where increasingly diverse groups must work together, > > > > > > the researchers believe musical improvisation could provide models > > > > > > for co-operation and a tool to help build confidence and trust. > > > > > > "It seems more and more, improvisation is the way the planet works > > > > > > and we should be studying it quite closely," said New York > > > musician > > > and scholar, George Lewis, another partner in the project and the > > > director of the Center for Jazz Studies at Columbia University. > > > "The > > > purpose is to find out how human beings tick and to develop new > > > knowledge from music which we can generalize to many different areas." > > > > > > The project will generate books and conferences as well as several > > > > > > outreach programs that will be used as case studies. > > > > > > A Vancouver group will bring an improvisational artist to work > > > with a > > > choir in the city's troubled Lower Eastside. Another project > > > involving the Montreal-based Canadian Centre for Architecture will > > > > > > examine how improvisation can play a role in the creation of > > > public > > > spaces. A project exploring the therapeutic possibilities of > > > improvisation is also being discussed. > > > > > > Eric Lewis, a McGill University philosophy professor and another > > > member of the research team, will look at improvisation and its > > > implications for intellectual property law - a hot issue with the > > > rising use of sampling in music. That topic also will be the focus > > > of > > > one of four policy papers. > > > > > > The researchers, he said, are making an effort to make their work > > > relevant and involve groups outside the academic community. Such > > > outreach also has become a key goal of SSHRC as it works to > > > demonstrate the relevance of social science and humanities > > > research > > > to the general public. > > > > > > The researchers themselves plan to put their theories to the test. > > > A > > > group of them - some accomplished musicians, some less so - will > > > take > > > the stage later this week for an improvisational performance with > > > the > > > playful title Not Just Talking Heads. > > > > > > Prof. Lewis of McGill, a trumpet player, says every meeting of the > > > > > > research group has included a jam session and he thinks that > > > experience has changed the way he relates to his fellow partners > > > in > > > the project. And he believes the experience is quite different > > > from > > > the one he would have had playing from a score where decisions had > > > > > > been made by the composer. > > > > > > "I think our success in pulling off the project in no small part > > > will > > > be due to the fact that we improvise together," he said. " I know > > > I > > > learn things about fellow improvisers as people when I improvise > > > with > > > them that have very serious and positive ramifications in my > > > ability > > > to work with them," he said. > > > > > > "I felt like I trusted them more. I felt much more at ease with > > > them > > > and I think that has improved my working relationship with them > > > and, > > > I say this quite honestly, it surprised me." > > > > > > Perhaps, he suggested, the project might even produce new models > > > for > > > sharing research based on the experience of musical improvisation. > > > > > > > > > > > > - -- > > > http://xoetc.antville.org > > > Who Does She Think She Is? > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:21:37 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Mags > > > Subject: welcome back mark NJC > > > > > > hey sweetie, yes indeed you are remembered. i'm glad to see you > > > back in the fold. i keep fading in and out of joni land too, > > > depending on what's going on. > > > > > > so nice to see your name in lights, again. i love your writing, > > > and i know that the new list members are in for a treat. > > > > > > hope you and travis are well. > > > > > > love love always, > > > > > > mags (with a new email addy) > > > xo > > > > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > > > All new Yahoo! Mail - > > > - --------------------------------- > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:17:45 +0100 > > > From: "Paul Headon" > > > Subject: UK shine purchasers > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > I have discovered a site that will sell a pre-ordered copy of > > > Shine for 6.99 > > > GBP including postage. > > > > > > > >http://www.bangcd.com/productDetail.aspx?prod_id=3042¤cy=GBP&source=C ia > > > oUK > > > > > > I am not an employee of the company . It just strikes me as a very > > > very low > > > price :-). Enjoy. > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Paul Headon. > > > (From Wales) > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:22:10 -0400 > > > From: Victor Johnson > > > Subject: Re: njc- off-the-cuff music > > > > > > I just returned last night from the annual gathering I go to over > > > Labor Day, some 700 people, camping in the woods and playing > > > music. > > > Much of what goes on is making off-the-cuff music. I particularly > > > > > > enjoyed a jam Saturday night...it must have been a couple of hours > > > > > > before dawn...I had been playing for awhile with two incredible > > > mandolin players, and had just started playing Peaceful Easy > > > Feeling, > > > when another mando playing friend showed up and what transpired > > > was > > > this incredible 3 part harmony. From there we went into Helpless > > > Hoping, Seven Bridges Road, Ripple, Brokedown Palace...just > > > hauntingly beautiful. And Sunday night, with many of the same > > > people, I started Sugar Mountain, playing it really slow, not > > > speeding up at all, just dragging it, fighting the urge to pick up > > > > > > the pace, and after the last verse..about leaving home, started > > > playing faster, staying on the d minor, g major riff and then > > > suddenly had the notion to switch to d major and go into I Know > > > You > > > Rider, which is about someone who is going away, and the two songs > > > > > > fit together so well...it was incredibly poignant, and the > > > mandolins > > > were just tearing it up. > > > > > > There was also really good music on the electric stage, > > > particularly, > > > this band called Kelly and the Cowboys, I think from somewhere in > > > the > > > South...if you had heard them, you would have thought Patsy Cline > > > was > > > there herself. She had the most amazing voice...I especially > > > enjoyed > > > hearing them do I Fall to Pieces. Even when you're not right in > > > front of the stage, the music carries through the woods...I had > > > actually been taking a nap in the late afternoon and woke up to > > > hearing her voice which was just so heavenly. > > > > > > Now its back to school and homework and practicing, etc... though > > > it > > > was definitely an experience not to be missed and I am still > > > filled > > > with inspiration, wonder, and awe. > > > > > > Victor > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:55:37 EDT > > > From: OzWoman321@aol.com > > > Subject: South Florida Folk Festival > > > > > > Hello, All - > > > > > > Apologies for the crosspost - hope to see you many of you here in > > > January! > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > From Bob Singer, director of the South Florida Folk Festival: > > > > > > We WILL have a festival this January; it WILL be on Martin Luther > > > King Day > > > weekend; it WILL be at Markham Park (post Hurricane Wilma, > > > Easterlin has a few > > > kinks with FEMA trailers still there and a shortage of personnel). > > > We have a > > > management team put together (which is very similar to the 2005 > > > team) and are > > > enthusiastic about our 2008 festival! > > > > > > Remember the deadline for the Singer/Songwriter contest is > > > September 15, > > > 2007; the deadline for the performer application is October 1, 2007. > > > > > > If you haven't applied already, please do so now (details at > > > www.southfloridafolkfest.com). > > > > > > > > > Susan > > > www.labyrinthcafe.com > > > > > > "Well, something's lost but something's gained in living every day..." > > > ~ Joni Mitchell > > > > > > "I am older now, I know the rise and gradual fall of a daily > > > victory..."~ Dar Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:19:35 -0700 > > > From: "Randy Remote" > > > Subject: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc > > > > > > The Jonathan Demme film "Neil Young: Heart of Gold" > > > will premiere on Showtime tonight at 8PM EST. > > > Concert film with material from Prarie Wind and an=20 > > > appearance by Emmylou Harris..this is the first time=20 > > > it's played on cable to my knowledge. Other times (EST): > > > Showtime > > > Sep 19 9:05 AM=20 > > > Showtime Too (whatever that is!) > > > Tomorrow 10:15 PM=20 > > > Monday 1:45 PM > > > Sep 15 8:30 AM > > > > > > Welcome back Mark in Seattle! > > > > > > Saw this article about perfect pitch: > > > > > > CHICAGO - Musicians and singers work for years to develop their > > > sense of > > > pitch, but few can name a musical note without a reference tone. U.S. > > > researchers on Monday said one gene may be the key to that coveted > > > ability. > > > Only 1 in 10,000 people have perfect or absolute pitch, the uncanny > > > ability to name the note of just about any sound without the help > > > of a > > > reference tone. > > > "One guy said, 'I can name the pitch of anything -- even farts,'" said > > > Dr. Jane Gitschier of the University of California, San Francisco, > > > whosestudy appears in the journal Proceedings of the National > > > Academy of > > > Sciences. > > > She and colleagues analyzed the results of a three-year, Web-based > > > survey and musical test that required participants to identify notes > > > without the help of a reference tone. More than 2,200 people completed > > > the 20-minute test. > > > "We noticed that pitch-naming ability was roughly an all-or-nothing > > > phenomenon," she said. > > > That lead researchers to conclude that one gene, or perhaps a few, may > > > be behind this talent. > > > Dr. Gitschier said those with perfect pitch were able to correctly > > > identify both piano tones and pure computer-generated tones that were > > > devoid of the distinctive sounds of any musical instrument. > > > She said people with perfect pitch were able to pick out the pure > > > toneswith ease. And they also tended to have had early musical > > > training -- > > > before the age of 7. > > > "We think it probably takes the two things," she said. > > > They also found that perfect pitch tends to deteriorate with age. > > > "As people get older, their perception goes sharp. If a note C is > > > played, and they're 15, they will say it's a C. But if they're 50, > > > theymight say it's a C sharp." > > > "This can be very disconcerting for them," Dr. Gitschier said. > > > The most commonly misidentified note, based on the study, is a G > > > sharp.That may be because G sharp is overshadowed by A, its > > > neighbour on the > > > scale, they said. A is often used by orchestras in the West as a > > > tuningreference. > > > Dr. Gitschier said she and her colleagues were focusing on identifying > > > the gene responsible for perfect pitch, which will involve gene > > > mapping.Then they will try to figure out what is different in > > > people with > > > absolute pitch. > > > "We'll have to play it by ear, so to speak," she said. > > > RR > > > ps 4 million bucks to study jamming? Find me that grant writer! > > > > > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had > > > a name of spacer.gif] > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:57:12 EDT > > > From: Motitan@aol.com > > > Subject: Blue On Blue > > > > > > So I was watching some DVD's of mine, including some Joni and > > > ended up > > > wondering about Joni's early songs. I was watching a very early > > > performance of a > > > song called "Blue On Blue" or she also said she called it, "Song > > > to a > > > Daydreamer." My question is, has Joni ever said anything about > > > these early songs of > > > hers? Did she ever perform this song (or other early ones you > > > may find) > > > anytime again a few years later or did she just drop them when > > > she got new songs > > > she obviously must have liked more? The song, "Blue On Blue" is > > > beautiful > > > although I will say it does sound very much of its time. > > > > > > Blue on blue > > > Sky's in your eyes > > > Steer you away like I wasn't here > > > Where do you go when you fantasize > > > That you wish I'd disappear > > > Leave you to dreaming and leave you alone > > > Lost in a world that's all your own > > > Can I come, too > > > Blue on blue > > > > > > Dreams like you are making now > > > Are very hard to share > > > All I ask is one small favor > > > Dream a dream and wish me there > > > > > > Gold on gold, sun in your hair > > > Spinning the rainbow, weaving the wind > > > Bluing the dye for the midnight air > > > Counting the gold at the rainbows end > > > Rapier princess whispers your name > > > Out of the time before I came > > > I'll never know > > > Gold on gold > > > > > > Dreams like you are making now > > > Are very hard to share > > > All I ask is one small favor > > > Dream a dream and wish me there > > > > > > - -Monika > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- > > > new AOL at > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:48:37 -0700 > > > From: "Lindsay Moon" > > > Subject: This Flight cover > > > > > > Secondly, check out this Delta Blues-ish take on This Flight > > > Tonight...it> ain't Joni, and it ain't Nazareth. I think it's > > > pretty killer. Maybe > > > > it derivates too much from the original for Randy's tastes: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTAtaNKFOVY > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > Bob, I'm a little behind on my digests, but did take a look at > > > this. A > > > wonderful cover! He really made it his own. I think Joni would > > > have a big > > > standing ovation for him. > > > > > > Lindsay > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > End of JMDL Digest V2007 #346 > > > ***************************** > > > > > > ------- > > > Post messages to the list by clicking here: joni@smoe.org > > > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > > joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > > ------- > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 05:42:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: RE : first time concerts (njc) Not sure if this fits the bill, really. But two newer all-girl bands named the Lovely Lovelies, and Au Revoir Simone made their Chapel Hill debut two nights ago in a local pub. And although they are not in the same shrine as relatively-new artists I discovered in the last year that blew me away, I was nevertheless excited to see them in the same concert, in one night, same venue. The audio was not fixed well by the audio tech guy, but the two bands showed how live performance and recorded music are two very distinct, discrete things. The Lovely Lovelies were quite dynamic and came out really good when they performed live -- at least to my ears. Au Revoir Simone is also very competent but their harmonies are more inward-sounding. Their recorded output is a major rotation in the station, but somehow the poor audio sounds seems to have diminished the nuanced and elfin beauty that their recorded sound captured so very well. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: Charmaine Clamor - My Funny Brown Pinay - --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 05:51:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Joseph Palis Subject: Joni mention in a college paper Yesterday's The Daily Tar Heel featured a column from a grad student whose title is Joni's oft-used line in BYT. Sure enough, the article made a passing mention of Joni as if to validate the wisdom of that idea. Not the most original but it is always nice to see Joni's name crop up in unexpected places. http://media.www.dailytarheel.com/media/storage/paper885/news/2007/09/06/Opinion/You-Dont.Know.What.You.Got.til.Its.Gone-2952639.shtml Goodnight y'all, Joseph in Chapel Hill (who won a pair of tickets to Jason Isbell's concert in town last night but had to miss it) - --------------------------------- Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:07:37 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: first time concerts (njc) >Is anyone else catching any live shows this summer of an artist they have never seen before?< I saw the Prentenders a few weeks ago, wanted to see Heart but they were sold out :~{ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:22:02 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: quote njc "A moment I've been dreading. George brought his ne'er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida. The one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work." - -Ronald Reagan in his recently published diaries, May 17, 1986 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 08:43:22 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Dulcimers, The Netherlands and the NEW iPod Touch with added Starbucks (i.e. SHINE) WiFi Downloads Hi Jonathan, thank you for your posting, it's nice to get to know you a little better! And as for hiding behind bottles in some dark European cafi, I'm definitely in! I'll alert you next time I go to Amsterdam. And if you come to Scandinavia, I am in Lund (in the South of Sweden), within easy access to Copenhagen, so maybe Bene and Odd would join in? Have a nice weekend, and good luck with the tickets! Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Jonathan Lowe Skickat: den 8 september 2007 01:54 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: Dulcimers, The Netherlands and the NEW iPod Touch with added Starbucks (i.e. SHINE) WiFi Downloads Thanks for all the kind words of welcome. Not sure how many Europeans there are on here in total, but there seems to be quite a few of us. I travel around quite a bit with my job, so maybe we can arrange some hiding behind bottles in dark cafis sometime... Catherine mentions the dulcimer and I recall that BBC In Concert with Joni telling her story of that instrument made for her and playing the thing so well on California. She seems so young and a little nervous when she spoke, but she played and sang so confidently and there were certainly signs of her non-nonsense character even then. This is still the only live footage I have outside of the commercial releases- can anyone point me in the direction of more? The Netherlands is indeed a grand place to live- we have been here almost 7 years. We live in a small town about 20 miles from Amsterdam so we have city and country both close by. Michael asked if I am a musician- in spirit and interest but not really in fact. I can read music and play a little piano/ keyboard and clarinet/ sax, but I'm not good at any of it. I downloaded Dave Blackburn's piano arrangement of Blue from the website a few weeks ago and am slowly working on it. I have a new incentive to get better again because my daughter just started piano lessons and expects me to play duets with her (she's 6 next week). She loves music as much as I do and I am of course playing her all my favourite "proper" music already by burning personal CDs with my favourites on- A Case of You featured on the first one. I like a lot of music, so this is a life's work, but other favourite artists are Ben Folds, Tori Amos, Bruce Springsteen (trying to get tix for Antwerp from 9am tomorrow), Tom Waits, Gerry Rafferty, The Blue Nile, Rickie Lee Jones and Paul Simon. Have been watching almost an hour of Steve Jobs showing off the new iPods tonight. Apple is teaming up with Starbucks to offer access to the music that Starbucks plays in its cafis through their new iTunes Wifi Download service and their new iPod Touch (touchscreen iPod with WiFi, web, etc- really nice-looking gadget). The way it works is that you walk into Starbucks and can audition and then download any song they are playing, have recently played, or which is in their catalogue. It occurs to me that this will give a BIG boost to the sales of Shine. I know how some of you folks feel about Starbucks and Joni's move to them, but this could be great for the record's exposure, and should lead to a new generation of fans. Well, this has been a pretty long post and now I need to go to bed as I have some serious internet ticket-buying action tomorrow. Just imagine when the Joni tour is announced (well I can dream). I have never seen her live and have read enviously the reminiscences of some of you lucky folks who have. Have a great weekend, Jonathan NP: Feist, "1234" (from the new iPod nano ad) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #350 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------