From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #349 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Friday, September 7 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 349 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- An idea for a sales sticker on "Shine" ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Hana and more [] Re: UK shine purchasers ["Jamie's Box of Paints" ] "Joni/Rickie Lee Feud" [Medric Faulkner ] Re: Hana and more [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] NJC, Back to the Garden (or something like that....) ["Patti Parlette" ] njc, Pray for Peace - Concert and Prayer Ceremony ["Patti Parlette" ] njc, Bums for Bush in Sydney ["Patti Parlette" ] Simon ... [Kate Johnson ] first time concerts (njc) [Victor Johnson ] RE: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) ["anon anon" ] Joni rages against the machine [KEVIN DOHENY ] 500 days njc ["mack watson-bush" ] Re: first time concerts (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: first time concerts (njc) [Catherine McKay ] big bass question, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: big bass question, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: big bass question, njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: big bass question, njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: first time concerts (njc) [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:28:27 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: An idea for a sales sticker on "Shine" Dear Catherine--- your my word wizard ! *like Mary Poppins without the spoonful of sugar* Isn't this just the perfect sales-sticker, it would really fit perfectly with the decaffenated, no sugar & non-fat milk coffe people would order, besides buying "Shine" I was really tired coming from work yesterday, but thinking of that little quote of yours really made my evening ! I was cracking up, thinking about it. Was really imagining how it would look like, the whole design... Best! Oddmund ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:22:59 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Hana & some more Nice pick, Oddmund. This does seem to go back to her kinder days and finding positives in people. I'm pretty open minded with Joni and just try to understand where she's coming from but sometimes the anger can stress me out. Nicely put, Bob. It's probably an accurate prediction. The press do seem to focus on a single aspect. It actually seems like a well rounded album. Joni has always been a political animal and I have learned from her point of view but as long as she mixes in some more sensitive human observations, I'll stick with her. Mark in Fortress Sydney. Chances are your country's leader is here right now for APEC. Just wondering what silly shirt they'll wear in Sydney. Downtown is a no go zone this weekend. Nice that we got a public holiday today though. Have a great weekend everybody. NP B Movie - Gil Scott-Herron ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:40:57 -0700 From: Subject: Hana and more I had some fear when I first heard Joni was gonig to get "political" in the new album. What I always thought made Joni great and towering above many other artists was her genius in being able to reach all in a very universal way. I think all great artists are able to transcend the ordinary - that is what makes them extraordinary. When I first read the lyrics I again felt that ambivalence. Some of them are dark and dire on the flat page. However....I have now heard much of the music and it all fits together beautifully. The lyrics are sometimes sparse and dank but the music is absolutely majestic. In true Joni duality mode, it is like the lyrics are the shadows but the music is the light. Since there is light with the darkness, it tells me Joni still hopes and tries to reach the heart and spirit. This is some of the best music she has ever composed - it is really a mindblower. There is also a definite influence from her working on a ballet, too. I am so glad that project inspired her. Thanks to Bene, I received a real copy of the Word magazine with the Joni interview. My 86 year old mother grabbed it and read it cover to cover and ate up every word. She also asked me if I knew Joni had worked on a ballet ;-) Ha. Shine is going to amaze and surprise many. I think it may even be somewhat "critic-proof." Thanks to Bob and simon, too, for the recent Joni goodies! I really appreciate them. Welcome back Mark in Seattle - we've wondered where you been! Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 01:01:53 +0100 From: "Jamie's Box of Paints" Subject: Re: UK shine purchasers I've pre-ordered mine but I realised.... I'm probably going to be away when they send it!!!! Argh!!!! I might just pick it up in Oxford while doing the show... not during the show... xxx On 05/09/07, Paul Headon wrote: > Hi all. > > I have discovered a site that will sell a pre-ordered copy of Shine for 6.99 > GBP including postage. > > http://www.bangcd.com/productDetail.aspx?prod_id=3042¤cy=GBP&source=Cia > oUK > > I am not an employee of the company . It just strikes me as a very very low > price :-). Enjoy. > > > Best wishes, > > Paul Headon. > (From Wales) > - -- I am a lonely Painter I live in a Box of Paints I'm frightened by the devil But I'm drawn to those ones that 'aint afraid... Jamie Zubairi can be found for voice-overs at http://uk.voicespro.com/jamie.zubairi1 acting CV and showreel at http://uk.castingcallpro.com/u/81749 http://www.jamiezubairi.co.uk Facebook me! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 04:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Medric Faulkner Subject: "Joni/Rickie Lee Feud" There is an interesting interview with Rickie Lee Jones on Minnesota Public Radio's web page where she speaks about the so called feud. She indicates that it was mostly media hype. - --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:05:25 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Hana and more Absolutely, Kakki - and this is not something that can be realized by seeing the lyrics on a screen. Just to hear Joni's voice over a piano setting turns me into mush. I too think this one is going to catch a lot of folks off-guard. 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Like a bad penny, I've turned up again. **** Or a shiny penny! (Must look at both sides, now.) Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes. There beneath the blue suburban skies I sit, and mean while back I mean, welcome back! Whenever someone in my workplace talks about a CV (curriculum vitae), I think of you. Happy Friday, everyJonibody! And we all shine on, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:23:53 -0500 From: "mia _" Subject: Re: NJC Word To The Wise Em wrote: Em, do it! I'll watch. I thought about doing one, too; but I don't have access to a video camera, so you all are spared :) Hey, what about getting some JoniFest material up there, too, so those who are unable to attend the festivals can watch all the fun they are missing. Mia _________________________________________________________________ Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:45:17 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Pray for Peace - Concert and Prayer Ceremony Holy Peace Train! Look what I just saw on jacksonbrowne.com! 16 Oct 2007 Pray for Peace - Concert and Prayer Ceremony An Interfaith Meditation on World Peace featuring Jackson Browne, Graham Nash, David Crosby and a host of others. Oct. 16 Washington National Cathedral Tickets stating at $25 On sale Sept. 7, 10 a.m. In the church they light the candles! Does anyone know where to get tickets? What if Joni goes? (You may say I'm a dreamer....) Ready for a sterilized room these days, or the cardiac wing, Patti P. NPIMH: WHY Didn't anybody tell her? Didn't anybody see? Sunday's on the phone to Monday, Tuesday's on the phone to me Oh yeah! _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:29:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: NJC Word To The Wise - --- mia _ wrote: > Em wrote: has a Joni cover on > YouTube? > I'm tempted to do one just to torture....or produce > laughter> > > Em, do it! I'll watch. > > I thought about doing one, too; but I don't have > access to a video camera, > so you all are spared :) > We have a really cheap one. The sound doesn't coordinate with the movements. That would be torture enough. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:57:39 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Bums for Bush in Sydney LOL...a friend of spirit just sent me this: http://www.bumsnotbombs.org/ Did you happen upon this demonstration, Mark-Leon? Did they really lock down your city? Check this part out: "Mooning is the universal human gesture of contempt. Bush inspired the previous record - let's set a new record Australia can really be proud of! It might seem that protest has hit the bottom line but what's left when our city is locked down by checkpoints, security fencing and draconian new laws. Marches are banned, even banners are banned. Welcome to the Police State of Sydney. Locking down our city over to this warmonger - what bare-arsed cheek!" Raise up A white banner In this manner- Our new friend Hana is not happy with this banner banning! Love, Patti P. NPIMH: Joni singing: "Kiss my ass, I cried..." P.S. to Mark: I just saw this job posting and thought of you. Too bad it's part-time and temporary...if they ever make it permanent, I will let you know. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music Graphic Design Specialist (P/T Temporary University Specialist) School of Fine Arts The School of Fine Arts is seeking a graphic design specialist with experience in music. This position will report to the Assistant Dean and entails special projects including re-designing, updating, and maintaining web sites in the Department of Music. This position is a part time, temporary appointment for the 2007/2008 academic year and will start at the beginning of September 2007. Hours will depend on the project and therefore flexibility and willingness to work evenings and weekends is necessary. This position requires a Bachelors degree in design. Interested applicants should also possess professional experience in marketing and publicity or a related field (experience working in Higher Education is highly desirable); have excellent writing and editorial skills and experience working with web sites. Applications must be received by September 7, 2007 in order to be considered. To apply please send a cover letter describing your interest and qualifications and your resume to: Theodore Thomas Yungclas, Ph.D., Assistant Dean, School of Fine Arts, University of Connecticut, 830 Bolton Road, Unit 1128, Storrs, CT 06269-1128; 860-486-1485; ted.yungclas@uconn.edu. (Search # HR08-04) _________________________________________________________________ Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:51:52 -0500 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Simon ... ... did you receive the .jpg I sent you, of Joni at the radio (or was it TV? I don't know) station in Saskatoon back in the day? Kate - -- http://xoetc.antville.org Who Does She Think She Is? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:09:49 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: first time concerts (njc) I'm starting to get really psyched about seeing Dave Matthews Band tomorrow at Piedmont Park in Atlanta. There's something about never having seen someone live before that adds a little more excitement to the anticipation. And then, a week from tonight, I'll get to see Stevie Wonder for the first time as well. It still doesn't seem completely real. But that's exactly why I'm really anxious to see both of them perform, in person. I think there's something about a live performance that can not be captured on film or audio recordings. Is anyone else catching any live shows this summer of an artist they have never seen before? Victor NP: Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds: The Maker ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:40:30 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: RE: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) I always find Leonard Cohen an interetsing person to read about and hear him talk, but it's sad that he didn't personally want children... >From: >Reply-To: >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) >Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:22:24 -0300 > >Hello everybody, I'd like to share some wisdom from Leonard Cohen, in my >opinion, one of the few who may match Joni when it comes to songs, poetry >and intellect. > >An excerpt from an interview: >"Sometimes I vote. You know, I live a thousand different lives. But those >things aren't terribly important. Sometimes I vote, sometimes I think about >politics, sometimes I read the papers, sometimes I have an opinion, >sometimes I make decisions, sometimes I'm very active. I have been known to >do all that... But it is like someone who finds themselves in the middle of >an ocean and they grab onto a piece of wood. Eventually they can lift up >their eyes and see that the sky is blue, watch birds fly by, make signs to >someone else on another piece of wood but their principal concern is to >hang on when the waves come. Their conversation may sometimes go towards >other things but underneath their talk is only one true concern: to hang >on. That is how I feel about my life. That something very urgent and >dangerous demands all my attention and everything else is superficial. It >isn't a very seductive belief to admire or imitate but it's the truth. It >is hard for me to hang on. Maybe it >would be a good idea to let go of that piece of wood. Maybe I would >discover that I swim perfectly well in the storms and the floods. But I >don't think so. In any case, I'm not taking the risk. So most of my energy >goes into hanging onto that piece of wood and to the other people that hang >to the same piece of wood, to whom I have responsibilities." > >The complete interview can be found at > >http://www.webheights.net/speakingcohen/throat.htm > >Saludos, >Miguel > >----- Mensaje original ----- >De: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) >Fecha: Miircoles, Septiembre 5, 2007 4:00 am >Asunto: JMDL Digest V2007 #346 > > > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 5 2007 Volume 2007 : > > Number 346 > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > -------- > > Re:, Across the Universe [Mark-Leon Thorne > leon@iinet.net.au>] Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this > > week... ["P. Henry" > njc- Millions to be spent in bid to understand what happens when > > people make off-the-cuff music together [Ka] > > welcome back mark NJC [Mags > > ] UK shine purchasers > > ["Paul Headon" ] > > Re: njc- off-the-cuff music [Victor Johnson > > ] South Florida Folk Festival > > [OzWoman321@aol.com] > > Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc ["Randy > > Remote" > Blue On Blue > > [Motitan@aol.com] This Flight cover > > ["Lindsay Moon" ] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:28:28 +1000 > > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > > Subject: Re:, Across the Universe > > > > Hey Mark. Hello to Travis too. I certainly remember you. I didn't > > realise you dropped of in fact. I thought you'd just gone quiet > > for a > > while. > > > > Welcome back anyhow from Mark in Sydney (just a little further > > west > > than WA) > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:34:55 +1000 (ChST) > > From: "P. Henry" > > Subject: Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this week... > > > > No doubt about it, Michael. You nailed it and they totally missed > > it. > > It's perfectly obvious. Good call my friend. > > > > It was a pretty nice concert overall. BTW, the liner notes have a few > > points of interest regarding that particular moment in history: > > > > "Concert Summary > > > > David Crosby - vocals, guitars > > Graham Nash - vocals, guitars, keyboards > > Stephen Stills - vocals, guitars, keyboards > > Neil Young - vocals, guitars, keyboards > > Tim Drummond - vocals, bass > > Russ Kunkel - drums > > Joe Lala - percussion, congas > > Joni Mitchell - backing vocals on "Another Sleep Song" and "Our House" > > > > When Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young abruptly split apart at the end > > of 1970, > > it seemed as though the worlds first supergroup would become yet > > anothercasualty of drugs, alcohol, egotism, greed, and political > > infighting that > > had become so familiar in the world of rock stars. By the end of their > > initial run (1968 through 1970), CSNY was known as much for their > > backstage fistfights and legendary episodes of drug abuse, as they > > werefor two brilliant studio albums (Crosby, Stills & Nash and > > Dij` Vu), and > > the multi-platinum double live LP, 4 Way Street. The group, which > > oftensang about love and peace, had gotten to the point where they > > couldnteven travel together on tour. > > > > Thats why, when the much ballyhooed 1974 Reunion Tour was announced, > > music industry insiders doubted the group could stay together long > > enoughto even finish it. But David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham > > Nash and Neil > > Young proved everyone wrong. Not only did they complete the tour, > > they did > > it without a single major fight or argument. And though it would > > be 14 > > more years before all four members toured together again, they > > managed to > > play 36 stadium-sized shows to over one and a half million > > enthusiasticfans. > > > > There had been a slew of solo albums in the period between 4 Way > > Streetand this tour, and the group used their individual solo hits > > to supplement > > the already large CSNY repertoire. Opening with a lively version > > of "Love > > The One You're With," (a 1970 solo hit for Stills), and offering > > up group > > arrangements of "Immigration Man" (a hit from the first > > Crosby/Nash duo > > LP); "Military Madness" (from Nashs first solo album); "Johnny's > > Garden"(from Stills II); "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" (from > > the classic Young > > LP, After The Gold Rush), and "Lee Shore" (from David Crosbys If > > I Could > > Only Remember My Name LP). > > > > Although more than half of the show was not included in this > > recording,and there are certainly a great number of mistakes heard > > here (despite a > > solid month of rehearsals prior to the tour, the groups vocals > > are often > > flat, due probably to problems with the monitor system used for > > stadiumsound systems), this recording is historic nonetheless. > > Since no official > > group live album was ever released from this tour, this remains > > one of the > > few professional recordings of the bands 74 trek. Although show > > stopperslike "Pre Road Downs," "Dij` Vu," and "Long Time Gone," > > were left off the > > Biscuit show there is still plenty of CSNY classics included, > > among them > > "Wooden Ships," "Helpless," "Almost Cut My Hair," "Teach Your > > Children"and "Our House" (with backup vocals from Joni Mitchell, > > who shared this > > bill with CSN&Y and others). This recording ends with Neil Youngs > > "Hawaiian Sunrise," which is anti-climatic after the > > aforementioned hits > > had been played. But all in all, it is a testament of how four > > incrediblytalented solo artists could figure out how to make it > > all work as a band." > > > > All The Best, > > > > Pat > > > > > > "The last time I saw Joni was Detroit in '68..." > > http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ > > > > - --------------------------------------------- > > > > > Hi Pat- > > > > > > Is that Joni on Only Love Can Break Your Heart? I listened to that > > > whole show I can swear it sounds like her on background vox even tho > > > it does not list her in the credits. > > > > > > Best > > > > > > Paz > > > Michael Paz > > > michael@thepazgroup.com > > > > > > Tour Manager > > > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > > > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:48:03 -0500 > > From: Kate Johnson > > Subject: njc- Millions to be spent in bid to understand what > > happens when people make off-the-cuff music together > > > > Since a lot of you are musicians, I thought you might find this of > > > > interest: > > > > University research project in a jam > > Millions to be spent in bid to understand what happens when people > > > > make off-the-cuff music together > > ELIZABETH CHURCH > > September 3, 2007 > > > > Musicians from Mali, Mexico, Canada and the United States will > > meet > > for the first time later this week on a stage in Guelph, Ont., to > > make music together. Their improvisational performance, part of an > > > > annual jazz festival in the city northwest of Toronto, is also the > > > > jumping-off point for a multimillion-dollar research project that > > seeks to understand what happens when an ad hoc group of people > > make > > off-the-cuff music together. The goal: to replicate that > > experience > > in other areas as diverse as architecture and medical research. > > > > "When it works, it is quite wondrous," says Ajay Heble, the > > University of Guelph English professor leading the project. He is > > also the artistic director of the jazz festival. > > > > "Improvisation can be a model for new ways of understanding," said > > > > Prof. Heble, a musician himself. "A group of people who may have > > never met, who know very little about one another - may not even > > speak the same language - can create inspired music. What makes it > > > > work and what does this tell us? These are the kinds of questions > > we > > are asking." > > > > The $4-million project, to be announced tomorrow, will span seven > > years and bring together 33 researchers in a variety of fields > > plus > > 12 community groups. Participants come from Canada, the United > > States, England and Australia. The bulk of the funding is provided > > by > > the federal government, with a $2.5-million grant from the Social > > Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. (The seven- > > year > > grant is the largest awarded by the federal agency and is given to > > > > between two and four major projects each year.) > > > > > > The University of Guelph, McGill University, the University of > > British Columbia and the University of Montreal are also providing > > > > funding, as are several private foundations and partners. > > > > In a society where increasingly diverse groups must work together, > > > > the researchers believe musical improvisation could provide models > > > > for co-operation and a tool to help build confidence and trust. > > > > "It seems more and more, improvisation is the way the planet works > > > > and we should be studying it quite closely," said New York > > musician > > and scholar, George Lewis, another partner in the project and the > > director of the Center for Jazz Studies at Columbia University. > > "The > > purpose is to find out how human beings tick and to develop new > > knowledge from music which we can generalize to many different areas." > > > > The project will generate books and conferences as well as several > > > > outreach programs that will be used as case studies. > > > > A Vancouver group will bring an improvisational artist to work > > with a > > choir in the city's troubled Lower Eastside. Another project > > involving the Montreal-based Canadian Centre for Architecture will > > > > examine how improvisation can play a role in the creation of > > public > > spaces. A project exploring the therapeutic possibilities of > > improvisation is also being discussed. > > > > Eric Lewis, a McGill University philosophy professor and another > > member of the research team, will look at improvisation and its > > implications for intellectual property law - a hot issue with the > > rising use of sampling in music. That topic also will be the focus > > of > > one of four policy papers. > > > > The researchers, he said, are making an effort to make their work > > relevant and involve groups outside the academic community. Such > > outreach also has become a key goal of SSHRC as it works to > > demonstrate the relevance of social science and humanities > > research > > to the general public. > > > > The researchers themselves plan to put their theories to the test. > > A > > group of them - some accomplished musicians, some less so - will > > take > > the stage later this week for an improvisational performance with > > the > > playful title Not Just Talking Heads. > > > > Prof. Lewis of McGill, a trumpet player, says every meeting of the > > > > research group has included a jam session and he thinks that > > experience has changed the way he relates to his fellow partners > > in > > the project. And he believes the experience is quite different > > from > > the one he would have had playing from a score where decisions had > > > > been made by the composer. > > > > "I think our success in pulling off the project in no small part > > will > > be due to the fact that we improvise together," he said. " I know > > I > > learn things about fellow improvisers as people when I improvise > > with > > them that have very serious and positive ramifications in my > > ability > > to work with them," he said. > > > > "I felt like I trusted them more. I felt much more at ease with > > them > > and I think that has improved my working relationship with them > > and, > > I say this quite honestly, it surprised me." > > > > Perhaps, he suggested, the project might even produce new models > > for > > sharing research based on the experience of musical improvisation. > > > > > > > > - -- > > http://xoetc.antville.org > > Who Does She Think She Is? > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:21:37 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Mags > > Subject: welcome back mark NJC > > > > hey sweetie, yes indeed you are remembered. i'm glad to see you > > back in the fold. i keep fading in and out of joni land too, > > depending on what's going on. > > > > so nice to see your name in lights, again. i love your writing, > > and i know that the new list members are in for a treat. > > > > hope you and travis are well. > > > > love love always, > > > > mags (with a new email addy) > > xo > > > > > > - --------------------------------- > > All new Yahoo! Mail - > > - --------------------------------- > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:17:45 +0100 > > From: "Paul Headon" > > Subject: UK shine purchasers > > > > Hi all. > > > > I have discovered a site that will sell a pre-ordered copy of > > Shine for 6.99 > > GBP including postage. > > > > >http://www.bangcd.com/productDetail.aspx?prod_id=3042¤cy=GBP&source=Cia > > oUK > > > > I am not an employee of the company . It just strikes me as a very > > very low > > price :-). Enjoy. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Paul Headon. > > (From Wales) > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:22:10 -0400 > > From: Victor Johnson > > Subject: Re: njc- off-the-cuff music > > > > I just returned last night from the annual gathering I go to over > > Labor Day, some 700 people, camping in the woods and playing > > music. > > Much of what goes on is making off-the-cuff music. I particularly > > > > enjoyed a jam Saturday night...it must have been a couple of hours > > > > before dawn...I had been playing for awhile with two incredible > > mandolin players, and had just started playing Peaceful Easy > > Feeling, > > when another mando playing friend showed up and what transpired > > was > > this incredible 3 part harmony. From there we went into Helpless > > Hoping, Seven Bridges Road, Ripple, Brokedown Palace...just > > hauntingly beautiful. And Sunday night, with many of the same > > people, I started Sugar Mountain, playing it really slow, not > > speeding up at all, just dragging it, fighting the urge to pick up > > > > the pace, and after the last verse..about leaving home, started > > playing faster, staying on the d minor, g major riff and then > > suddenly had the notion to switch to d major and go into I Know > > You > > Rider, which is about someone who is going away, and the two songs > > > > fit together so well...it was incredibly poignant, and the > > mandolins > > were just tearing it up. > > > > There was also really good music on the electric stage, > > particularly, > > this band called Kelly and the Cowboys, I think from somewhere in > > the > > South...if you had heard them, you would have thought Patsy Cline > > was > > there herself. She had the most amazing voice...I especially > > enjoyed > > hearing them do I Fall to Pieces. Even when you're not right in > > front of the stage, the music carries through the woods...I had > > actually been taking a nap in the late afternoon and woke up to > > hearing her voice which was just so heavenly. > > > > Now its back to school and homework and practicing, etc... though > > it > > was definitely an experience not to be missed and I am still > > filled > > with inspiration, wonder, and awe. > > > > Victor > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:55:37 EDT > > From: OzWoman321@aol.com > > Subject: South Florida Folk Festival > > > > Hello, All - > > > > Apologies for the crosspost - hope to see you many of you here in > > January! > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From Bob Singer, director of the South Florida Folk Festival: > > > > We WILL have a festival this January; it WILL be on Martin Luther > > King Day > > weekend; it WILL be at Markham Park (post Hurricane Wilma, > > Easterlin has a few > > kinks with FEMA trailers still there and a shortage of personnel). > > We have a > > management team put together (which is very similar to the 2005 > > team) and are > > enthusiastic about our 2008 festival! > > > > Remember the deadline for the Singer/Songwriter contest is > > September 15, > > 2007; the deadline for the performer application is October 1, 2007. > > > > If you haven't applied already, please do so now (details at > > www.southfloridafolkfest.com). > > > > > > Susan > > www.labyrinthcafe.com > > > > "Well, something's lost but something's gained in living every day..." > > ~ Joni Mitchell > > > > "I am older now, I know the rise and gradual fall of a daily > > victory..."~ Dar Williams > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:19:35 -0700 > > From: "Randy Remote" > > Subject: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc > > > > The Jonathan Demme film "Neil Young: Heart of Gold" > > will premiere on Showtime tonight at 8PM EST. > > Concert film with material from Prarie Wind and an=20 > > appearance by Emmylou Harris..this is the first time=20 > > it's played on cable to my knowledge. Other times (EST): > > Showtime > > Sep 19 9:05 AM=20 > > Showtime Too (whatever that is!) > > Tomorrow 10:15 PM=20 > > Monday 1:45 PM > > Sep 15 8:30 AM > > > > Welcome back Mark in Seattle! > > > > Saw this article about perfect pitch: > > > > CHICAGO - Musicians and singers work for years to develop their > > sense of > > pitch, but few can name a musical note without a reference tone. U.S. > > researchers on Monday said one gene may be the key to that coveted > > ability. > > Only 1 in 10,000 people have perfect or absolute pitch, the uncanny > > ability to name the note of just about any sound without the help > > of a > > reference tone. > > "One guy said, 'I can name the pitch of anything -- even farts,'" said > > Dr. Jane Gitschier of the University of California, San Francisco, > > whosestudy appears in the journal Proceedings of the National > > Academy of > > Sciences. > > She and colleagues analyzed the results of a three-year, Web-based > > survey and musical test that required participants to identify notes > > without the help of a reference tone. More than 2,200 people completed > > the 20-minute test. > > "We noticed that pitch-naming ability was roughly an all-or-nothing > > phenomenon," she said. > > That lead researchers to conclude that one gene, or perhaps a few, may > > be behind this talent. > > Dr. Gitschier said those with perfect pitch were able to correctly > > identify both piano tones and pure computer-generated tones that were > > devoid of the distinctive sounds of any musical instrument. > > She said people with perfect pitch were able to pick out the pure > > toneswith ease. And they also tended to have had early musical > > training -- > > before the age of 7. > > "We think it probably takes the two things," she said. > > They also found that perfect pitch tends to deteriorate with age. > > "As people get older, their perception goes sharp. If a note C is > > played, and they're 15, they will say it's a C. But if they're 50, > > theymight say it's a C sharp." > > "This can be very disconcerting for them," Dr. Gitschier said. > > The most commonly misidentified note, based on the study, is a G > > sharp.That may be because G sharp is overshadowed by A, its > > neighbour on the > > scale, they said. A is often used by orchestras in the West as a > > tuningreference. > > Dr. Gitschier said she and her colleagues were focusing on identifying > > the gene responsible for perfect pitch, which will involve gene > > mapping.Then they will try to figure out what is different in > > people with > > absolute pitch. > > "We'll have to play it by ear, so to speak," she said. > > RR > > ps 4 million bucks to study jamming? Find me that grant writer! > > > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had > > a name of spacer.gif] > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:57:12 EDT > > From: Motitan@aol.com > > Subject: Blue On Blue > > > > So I was watching some DVD's of mine, including some Joni and > > ended up > > wondering about Joni's early songs. I was watching a very early > > performance of a > > song called "Blue On Blue" or she also said she called it, "Song > > to a > > Daydreamer." My question is, has Joni ever said anything about > > these early songs of > > hers? Did she ever perform this song (or other early ones you > > may find) > > anytime again a few years later or did she just drop them when > > she got new songs > > she obviously must have liked more? The song, "Blue On Blue" is > > beautiful > > although I will say it does sound very much of its time. > > > > Blue on blue > > Sky's in your eyes > > Steer you away like I wasn't here > > Where do you go when you fantasize > > That you wish I'd disappear > > Leave you to dreaming and leave you alone > > Lost in a world that's all your own > > Can I come, too > > Blue on blue > > > > Dreams like you are making now > > Are very hard to share > > All I ask is one small favor > > Dream a dream and wish me there > > > > Gold on gold, sun in your hair > > Spinning the rainbow, weaving the wind > > Bluing the dye for the midnight air > > Counting the gold at the rainbows end > > Rapier princess whispers your name > > Out of the time before I came > > I'll never know > > Gold on gold > > > > Dreams like you are making now > > Are very hard to share > > All I ask is one small favor > > Dream a dream and wish me there > > > > - -Monika > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- > > new AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:48:37 -0700 > > From: "Lindsay Moon" > > Subject: This Flight cover > > > > Secondly, check out this Delta Blues-ish take on This Flight > > Tonight...it> ain't Joni, and it ain't Nazareth. I think it's > > pretty killer. Maybe > > > it derivates too much from the original for Randy's tastes: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTAtaNKFOVY > > > > > > Bob > > > > Bob, I'm a little behind on my digests, but did take a look at > > this. A > > wonderful cover! He really made it his own. I think Joni would > > have a big > > standing ovation for him. > > > > Lindsay > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of JMDL Digest V2007 #346 > > ***************************** > > > > ------- > > Post messages to the list by clicking here: joni@smoe.org > > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > ------- _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:00:25 -0500 From: Cindy Vickery Subject: RE: first time concerts (njc) > Is anyone else catching any live shows this summer of an artist they > have never seen before?> > Victor Funny you should ask, Victor! (Big hugs to you, by the way!) In the next few weeks, I'm seeing: 1- PATTI FREAKIN' SMITH. The last time I went to see her, I got carded and couldn't get through the door (if that gives you any indication of time elapsed!), but listened to her show from the parking lot, leaning against the wall of the club. and 2- Issa (formerly known as Jane Siberry). I've been a fan of hers for eons, and thrilled that I'll be catching an all-acoustic show in a tiny (137 seat!) venue. This summer, thusfar, I've seen Rickie Lee Jones and Bruce Cockburn and Lucy Wainwright Roche and Dr. John and Marcia Ball and Victoria Williams and Kate Campbell and Randall Bramblett and Sam Bush and Robinella and Breaking Benjamin and Three Days Grace and Hawthorne Heights and Poison and Ricky Skaggs and Red Jumpsuit Apparatus. It's been a big summer for music!! Cindy NP: Wonderlust King, Gogol Bordello _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: KEVIN DOHENY Subject: Joni rages against the machine I have always loved the concept of art being used to combat darkness/evil/injustice etc.. I think that is what Joni is trying to do on this album...(At the risk of sounding idealistic/hippie dippy..I say) Maybe this record is much more than music recorded onto a disk..or fodder for our eager ears who have been dying to hear a note...from our joni...perhaps this album is a much larger thing..growing up listening to cbs-fm the protest songs from the 60's were presented as top 40 and it's hard to grasp the concept of "turn turn turn" bookended with "sugar sugar" or "runaround sue"(not that i don't love them for different reasons..you get the point) But as i grew older listening to those songs in their proper context along with my since gained knowledge I wonder why artists of today seem so silent about the world..It is important to use art as a form of "weapon" for lack of a better word..when joni has done it it's to be fare sparce but whenever she does it..she really hits the mark..The "Fiddle and the Drum" is a total triumph(again almost prophetic) It is so much more than an anti war song..it is a warning..I cried the first time I actually listened to that song... for my money "Tax Free" perfectly represents what life was like in America in 1985 that song is simply genius..I am thankful that I have these songs as a sort of artistic snap shot of what life was like or what people felt at a particular time.. The songs on 'Shine" that deal with the state of the world today are a snapshot for my friends grandkids..I think Joni took a look around and decided she better leave her mark because most artists sure as hell aren't..Brava! - --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:31:07 -0500 From: "mack watson-bush" Subject: 500 days njc great news folks. check the bob monkey site. only 500 days left of the beast. hallelujah. mack ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:02:58 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: first time concerts (njc) My son & I went see Sonic Youth and My Morning Jacket this year, and they were great shows. And of course not too long ago I caught Tom Waits for the first time - a very exciting night as I was a fan for 30+years. Coming up in the "first time" category: Spoon and Laura Love. Have never seen DMB but I steer clear of the big stadium-type shows these days. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Backstreets" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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There were a few I wish I had gone to - Joan Armatrading for one, but I left it too late. And there are lots more I'd like to go to if I had the money - it has been a good year for concerts. There are a bunch of people doing V-Fest this weekend that I'd love to see (Bjork, The Smashing Pumpkins and others) but it's a bit rich for my blood (even so, maybe worth it) and I'm not sure if I could do the stand-up thing, because I'm pretty sure you don't get seats. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:45:59 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: big bass question, njc Hi Ya'll, How is it that the rappers CD's get the major push of air from the subwolfers? Black Sabbath comes close on my friend's speakers, but not "there" with the air like the rappers. Why? Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:00:27 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: big bass question, njc In a message dated 9/7/2007 3:56:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, waytoblue@comcast.net writes: More recent recordings have been mastered at higher levels and sound more "there." Hi Victor, Thanks. I don't understand the technology of CD's being mastered at higher levels. What is it that is different between then and now to push so much wind from the subwolfers today? I'm really in the dark about this technology overall. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:56:31 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: big bass question, njc One thing that might play a factor is the Black Sabbath cd's were recorded in the 70's and 80's so they are not going to have as much presence as the more recently recorded rapper's cd's. More recent recordings have been mastered at higher levels and sound more "there." Victor On Sep 7, 2007, at 5:45 PM, LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Hi Ya'll, > > How is it that the rappers CD's get the major push of air from > the > subwolfers? Black Sabbath comes close on my friend's speakers, > but not "there" > with the air like the rappers. Why? > > Love, > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:13:52 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: big bass question, njc On Sep 7, 2007, at 6:00 PM, LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > > > Hi Victor, > > Thanks. I don't understand the technology of CD's being > mastered at > higher levels. What is it that is different between then and now > to push so > much wind from the subwolfers today? I'm really in the dark about > this > technology overall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war An interesting article on the subject of cd's and loudness. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:29:11 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: first time concerts (njc) CRAP Victor I wish I would have had my ear to the ground I would hop over and go with you. I love Dave live. I have seen him umteen times and I have worked with him twice. The first time I did an MTV special called Storming the Quarter (which I have a copy of somewhere with my name in the credits) and he was a blast to work with. I was stage manager on that video shoot working for MTV and my job was basically be liaison between Dave and the director. Last year he was here for Jazz Fest again and I was reintroduced to him and the Edge by none other than Bob Ezrin. He is such a gracious and real guy and totally a goof ball. In 2005 when we were refugees in Houston post Katrina we got to go see him and were his guests backstage with free booze and everything. It really cheered us up cause we were all so freaking depressed and it was an incredible show. I would love to se him and Tim again cause that was REAL special. Thanks for recommending the new DVD we love it. Wish I could be there to hang with you. Leaving for Miami on the 11th and then I will leave to Austin on the 13th and be there till the 17th. I see he is going to be in Houston on the 21st. Oh oh may have to do a road trip with the family. Have fun bro and give us a full report. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 7, 2007, at 2:09 PM, Victor Johnson wrote: I'm starting to get really psyched about seeing Dave Matthews Band tomorrow at Piedmont Park in Atlanta. There's something about never having seen someone live before that adds a little more excitement to the anticipation. And then, a week from tonight, I'll get to see Stevie Wonder for the first time as well. It still doesn't seem completely real. But that's exactly why I'm really anxious to see both of them perform, in person. I think there's something about a live performance that can not be captured on film or audio recordings. Is anyone else catching any live shows this summer of an artist they have never seen before? Victor NP: Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds: The Maker ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #349 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------