From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #347 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, September 6 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 347 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: UK Shine purchasers [robmsteen@aol.com] eBay Joni find ["Lindsay Moon" ] Re: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc [Em ] Re: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc ["Randy Remote" ] Re: bass player? [Bob Muller ] Re: Blue On Blue [Bob Muller ] NJC Word To The Wise [Bob Muller ] Hello ["Jonathan Lowe" ] Re: Hello [Bob Muller ] "Over The Rhine" tour behind the new record, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: Hello [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:34:22 -0400 From: robmsteen@aol.com Subject: Re: UK Shine purchasers Thanks muchly for the tip, Paul! Just placed my order. Love Rob Lewes - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 03:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #271 onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, September 5 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 271 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re:, Across the Universe [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this week... ["P. Henry" ] South Florida Folk Festival [OzWoman321@aol.com] Blue On Blue [Motitan@aol.com] This Flight cover ["Lindsay Moon" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:28:28 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re:, Across the Universe Hey Mark. Hello to Travis too. I certainly remember you. I didn't realise you dropped of in fact. I thought you'd just gone quiet for a while. Welcome back anyhow from Mark in Sydney (just a little further west than WA) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:34:55 +1000 (ChST) From: "P. Henry" Subject: Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this week... No doubt about it, Michael. You nailed it and they totally missed it. It's perfectly obvious. Good call my friend. It was a pretty nice concert overall. BTW, the liner notes have a few points of interest regarding that particular moment in history: "Concert Summary David Crosby - vocals, guitars Graham Nash - vocals, guitars, keyboards Stephen Stills - vocals, guitars, keyboards Neil Young - vocals, guitars, keyboards Tim Drummond - vocals, bass Russ Kunkel - drums Joe Lala - percussion, congas Joni Mitchell - backing vocals on "Another Sleep Song" and "Our House" When Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young abruptly split apart at the end of 1970, it seemed as though the worlds first supergroup would become yet another casualty of drugs, alcohol, egotism, greed, and political infighting that had become so familiar in the world of rock stars. By the end of their initial run (1968 through 1970), CSNY was known as much for their backstage fistfights and legendary episodes of drug abuse, as they were for two brilliant studio albums (Crosby, Stills & Nash and Dij` Vu), and the multi-platinum double live LP, 4 Way Street. The group, which often sang about love and peace, had gotten to the point where they couldnt even travel together on tour. Thats why, when the much ballyhooed 1974 Reunion Tour was announced, music industry insiders doubted the group could stay together long enough to even finish it. But David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham Nash and Neil Young proved everyone wrong. Not only did they complete the tour, they did it without a single major fight or argument. And though it would be 14 more years before all four members toured together again, they managed to play 36 stadium-sized shows to over one and a half million enthusiastic fans. There had been a slew of solo albums in the period between 4 Way Street and this tour, and the group used their individual solo hits to supplement the already large CSNY repertoire. Opening with a lively version of "Love The One You're With," (a 1970 solo hit for Stills), and offering up group arrangements of "Immigration Man" (a hit from the first Crosby/Nash duo LP); "Military Madness" (from Nashs first solo album); "Johnny's Garden" (from Stills II); "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" (from the classic Young LP, After The Gold Rush), and "Lee Shore" (from David Crosbys If I Could Only Remember My Name LP). Although more than half of the show was not included in this recording, and there are certainly a great number of mistakes heard here (despite a solid month of rehearsals prior to the tour, the groups vocals are often flat, due probably to problems with the monitor system used for stadium sound systems), this recording is historic nonetheless. Since no official group live album was ever released from this tour, this remains one of the few professional recordings of the bands 74 trek. Although show stoppers like "Pre Road Downs," "Dij` Vu," and "Long Time Gone," were left off the Biscuit show there is still plenty of CSNY classics included, among them "Wooden Ships," "Helpless," "Almost Cut My Hair," "Teach Your Children" and "Our House" (with backup vocals from Joni Mitchell, who shared this bill with CSN&Y and others). This recording ends with Neil Youngs "Hawaiian Sunrise," which is anti-climatic after the aforementioned hits had been played. But all in all, it is a testament of how four incredibly talented solo artists could figure out how to make it all work as a band." All The Best, Pat "The last time I saw Joni was Detroit in '68..." http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ - - --------------------------------------------- > Hi Pat- > > Is that Joni on Only Love Can Break Your Heart? I listened to that > whole show I can swear it sounds like her on background vox even tho > it does not list her in the credits. > > Best > > Paz > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:17:45 +0100 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: UK shine purchasers Hi all. I have discovered a site that will sell a pre-ordered copy of Shine for 6.99 GBP including postage. http://www.bangcd.com/productDetail.aspx?prod_id=3042¤cy=GBP&source=Cia oUK I am not an employee of the company . It just strikes me as a very very low price :-). Enjoy. Best wishes, Paul Headon. (From Wales) - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:55:37 EDT From: OzWoman321@aol.com Subject: South Florida Folk Festival Hello, All - Apologies for the crosspost - hope to see you many of you here in January! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Bob Singer, director of the South Florida Folk Festival: We WILL have a festival this January; it WILL be on Martin Luther King Day weekend; it WILL be at Markham Park (post Hurricane Wilma, Easterlin has a few kinks with FEMA trailers still there and a shortage of personnel). We have a management team put together (which is very similar to the 2005 team) and are enthusiastic about our 2008 festival! Remember the deadline for the Singer/Songwriter contest is September 15, 2007; the deadline for the performer application is October 1, 2007. If you haven't applied already, please do so now (details at www.southfloridafolkfest.com). Susan www.labyrinthcafe.com "Well, something's lost but something's gained in living every day..." ~ Joni Mitchell "I am older now, I know the rise and gradual fall of a daily victory..." ~ Dar Williams ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:57:12 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Blue On Blue So I was watching some DVD's of mine, including some Joni and ended up wondering about Joni's early songs. I was watching a very early performance of a song called "Blue On Blue" or she also said she called it, "Song to a Daydreamer." My question is, has Joni ever said anything about these early songs of hers? Did she ever perform this song (or other early ones you may find) anytime again a few years later or did she just drop them when she got new songs she obviously must have liked more? The song, "Blue On Blue" is beautiful although I will say it does sound very much of its time. Blue on blue Sky's in your eyes Steer you away like I wasn't here Where do you go when you fantasize That you wish I'd disappear Leave you to dreaming and leave you alone Lost in a world that's all your own Can I come, too Blue on blue Dreams like you are making now Are very hard to share All I ask is one small favor Dream a dream and wish me there Gold on gold, sun in your hair Spinning the rainbow, weaving the wind Bluing the dye for the midnight air Counting the gold at the rainbows end Rapier princess whispers your name Out of the time before I came I'll never know Gold on gold Dreams like you are making now Are very hard to share All I ask is one small favor Dream a dream and wish me there - - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:48:37 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: This Flight cover Secondly, check out this Delta Blues-ish take on This Flight Tonight...it > ain't Joni, and it ain't Nazareth. I think it's pretty killer. Maybe > it derivates too much from the original for Randy's tastes: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTAtaNKFOVY > > Bob Bob, I'm a little behind on my digests, but did take a look at this. A wonderful cover! He really made it his own. I think Joni would have a big standing ovation for him. Lindsay - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #271 ********************************* - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- Siquomb, isn't she? (http://www.siquomb.com/siquomb.cfm) ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:45:24 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: eBay Joni find I guess this would look nice under someone's Christmas tree . hmmm. Lindsay http://item.express.ebay.com/Entertainment-Memorabilia___JONI-MITCHELL-RIAA- White-Matte-GOLD-Record-Award_W0QQitemZ280137249934QQihZ018QQddnZEntertainme ntQ20MemorabiliaQQddiZ1371QQcmdZExpressItem ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc I watched part of it! was wonderful, what I saw of it. I loves me some Neil! And Emmylou. Made me want to get my guitar out. Lots of material from the Comes A Time era....just feels good. Makes me want to listen to Stars and Bars right now, as I love that one too...the Emmylou factor, etc. Great album cover, too! Hoping to catch this again sometime in full...over the weekend would be nice. Thanks for listing those up-coming showings. Heck, I might buy the DVD! Anybody know if its recorded in any kind of "surround"? :) Em - --- Randy Remote wrote: > The Jonathan Demme film "Neil Young: Heart of Gold" > will premiere on Showtime tonight at 8PM EST. > Concert film with material from Prarie Wind and an=20 > appearance by Emmylou Harris..this is the first time=20 > it's played on cable to my knowledge. Other times (EST): > Showtime > Sep 19 9:05 AM=20 > Showtime Too (whatever that is!) > Tomorrow 10:15 PM=20 > Monday 1:45 PM > Sep 15 8:30 AM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:21:51 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc Em, The DVD is well worth owning--get the special collectors edition Great widescreen picture. Audio options are Dolby 5.1; DTS 5.1 and surround 2.0 I only have 2 speakers for my TV stereo and so I use the last of these. Bonus Disk: "He Was the King" additional song. Rehearsal diaries narrated by director Jonathan Demme. 6 featurettes (too lazy to type them) and Neil doing "The Needle and the Damage Done" on the 1971 Johnnny Cash show. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Em Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:33 AM To: Randy Remote; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc I watched part of it! was wonderful, what I saw of it. I loves me some Neil! And Emmylou. Made me want to get my guitar out. Lots of material from the Comes A Time era....just feels good. Makes me want to listen to Stars and Bars right now, as I love that one too...the Emmylou factor, etc. Great album cover, too! Hoping to catch this again sometime in full...over the weekend would be nice. Thanks for listing those up-coming showings. Heck, I might buy the DVD! Anybody know if its recorded in any kind of "surround"? :) Em - --- Randy Remote wrote: > The Jonathan Demme film "Neil Young: Heart of Gold" > will premiere on Showtime tonight at 8PM EST. > Concert film with material from Prarie Wind and an=20 > appearance by Emmylou Harris..this is the first time=20 > it's played on cable to my knowledge. Other times (EST): > Showtime > Sep 19 9:05 AM=20 > Showtime Too (whatever that is!) > Tomorrow 10:15 PM=20 > Monday 1:45 PM > Sep 15 8:30 AM ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:24:36 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc In a message dated 9/5/2007 9:43:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: I watched part of it! was wonderful, what I saw of it. I loves me some Neil! And Emmylou. - -------------------------------- Heart of Gold is fantastic! You absolutely should buy it! It's such a sweet, sentimental, and intimate concert. You can feel the good vibes between everybody while watching it. I'm not sure what it is recorded in though.... - -Mon ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:22:24 -0300 From: Subject: From Leonard Cohen NJC (or very little...) Hello everybody, I'd like to share some wisdom from Leonard Cohen, in my opinion, one of the few who may match Joni when it comes to songs, poetry and intellect. An excerpt from an interview: "Sometimes I vote. You know, I live a thousand different lives. But those things aren't terribly important. Sometimes I vote, sometimes I think about politics, sometimes I read the papers, sometimes I have an opinion, sometimes I make decisions, sometimes I'm very active. I have been known to do all that... But it is like someone who finds themselves in the middle of an ocean and they grab onto a piece of wood. Eventually they can lift up their eyes and see that the sky is blue, watch birds fly by, make signs to someone else on another piece of wood but their principal concern is to hang on when the waves come. Their conversation may sometimes go towards other things but underneath their talk is only one true concern: to hang on. That is how I feel about my life. That something very urgent and dangerous demands all my attention and everything else is superficial. It isn't a very seductive belief to admire or imitate but it's the truth. It is hard for me to hang on. Maybe it would be a good idea to let go of that piece of wood. Maybe I would discover that I swim perfectly well in the storms and the floods. But I don't think so. In any case, I'm not taking the risk. So most of my energy goes into hanging onto that piece of wood and to the other people that hang to the same piece of wood, to whom I have responsibilities." The complete interview can be found at http://www.webheights.net/speakingcohen/throat.htm Saludos, Miguel - ----- Mensaje original ----- De: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) Fecha: Miircoles, Septiembre 5, 2007 4:00 am Asunto: JMDL Digest V2007 #346 > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, September 5 2007 Volume 2007 : > Number 346 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re:, Across the Universe [Mark-Leon Thorne leon@iinet.net.au>] Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this > week... ["P. Henry" njc- Millions to be spent in bid to understand what happens when > people make off-the-cuff music together [Ka] > welcome back mark NJC [Mags > ] UK shine purchasers > ["Paul Headon" ] > Re: njc- off-the-cuff music [Victor Johnson > ] South Florida Folk Festival > [OzWoman321@aol.com] > Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc ["Randy > Remote" Blue On Blue > [Motitan@aol.com] This Flight cover > ["Lindsay Moon" ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:28:28 +1000 > From: Mark-Leon Thorne > Subject: Re:, Across the Universe > > Hey Mark. Hello to Travis too. I certainly remember you. I didn't > realise you dropped of in fact. I thought you'd just gone quiet > for a > while. > > Welcome back anyhow from Mark in Sydney (just a little further > west > than WA) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:34:55 +1000 (ChST) > From: "P. Henry" > Subject: Re: SV: CSNY&J - Wolfgang's Vault this week... > > No doubt about it, Michael. You nailed it and they totally missed > it. > It's perfectly obvious. Good call my friend. > > It was a pretty nice concert overall. BTW, the liner notes have a few > points of interest regarding that particular moment in history: > > "Concert Summary > > David Crosby - vocals, guitars > Graham Nash - vocals, guitars, keyboards > Stephen Stills - vocals, guitars, keyboards > Neil Young - vocals, guitars, keyboards > Tim Drummond - vocals, bass > Russ Kunkel - drums > Joe Lala - percussion, congas > Joni Mitchell - backing vocals on "Another Sleep Song" and "Our House" > > When Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young abruptly split apart at the end > of 1970, > it seemed as though the worlds first supergroup would become yet > anothercasualty of drugs, alcohol, egotism, greed, and political > infighting that > had become so familiar in the world of rock stars. By the end of their > initial run (1968 through 1970), CSNY was known as much for their > backstage fistfights and legendary episodes of drug abuse, as they > werefor two brilliant studio albums (Crosby, Stills & Nash and > Dij` Vu), and > the multi-platinum double live LP, 4 Way Street. The group, which > oftensang about love and peace, had gotten to the point where they > couldnteven travel together on tour. > > Thats why, when the much ballyhooed 1974 Reunion Tour was announced, > music industry insiders doubted the group could stay together long > enoughto even finish it. But David Crosby, Stephen Stills, Graham > Nash and Neil > Young proved everyone wrong. Not only did they complete the tour, > they did > it without a single major fight or argument. And though it would > be 14 > more years before all four members toured together again, they > managed to > play 36 stadium-sized shows to over one and a half million > enthusiasticfans. > > There had been a slew of solo albums in the period between 4 Way > Streetand this tour, and the group used their individual solo hits > to supplement > the already large CSNY repertoire. Opening with a lively version > of "Love > The One You're With," (a 1970 solo hit for Stills), and offering > up group > arrangements of "Immigration Man" (a hit from the first > Crosby/Nash duo > LP); "Military Madness" (from Nashs first solo album); "Johnny's > Garden"(from Stills II); "Only Love Can Break Your Heart" (from > the classic Young > LP, After The Gold Rush), and "Lee Shore" (from David Crosbys If > I Could > Only Remember My Name LP). > > Although more than half of the show was not included in this > recording,and there are certainly a great number of mistakes heard > here (despite a > solid month of rehearsals prior to the tour, the groups vocals > are often > flat, due probably to problems with the monitor system used for > stadiumsound systems), this recording is historic nonetheless. > Since no official > group live album was ever released from this tour, this remains > one of the > few professional recordings of the bands 74 trek. Although show > stopperslike "Pre Road Downs," "Dij` Vu," and "Long Time Gone," > were left off the > Biscuit show there is still plenty of CSNY classics included, > among them > "Wooden Ships," "Helpless," "Almost Cut My Hair," "Teach Your > Children"and "Our House" (with backup vocals from Joni Mitchell, > who shared this > bill with CSN&Y and others). This recording ends with Neil Youngs > "Hawaiian Sunrise," which is anti-climatic after the > aforementioned hits > had been played. But all in all, it is a testament of how four > incrediblytalented solo artists could figure out how to make it > all work as a band." > > All The Best, > > Pat > > > "The last time I saw Joni was Detroit in '68..." > http://www.angelfire.com/pq2/phenryboland/ > > - --------------------------------------------- > > > Hi Pat- > > > > Is that Joni on Only Love Can Break Your Heart? I listened to that > > whole show I can swear it sounds like her on background vox even tho > > it does not list her in the credits. > > > > Best > > > > Paz > > Michael Paz > > michael@thepazgroup.com > > > > Tour Manager > > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > > http://www.preservationhall.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:48:03 -0500 > From: Kate Johnson > Subject: njc- Millions to be spent in bid to understand what > happens when people make off-the-cuff music together > > Since a lot of you are musicians, I thought you might find this of > > interest: > > University research project in a jam > Millions to be spent in bid to understand what happens when people > > make off-the-cuff music together > ELIZABETH CHURCH > September 3, 2007 > > Musicians from Mali, Mexico, Canada and the United States will > meet > for the first time later this week on a stage in Guelph, Ont., to > make music together. Their improvisational performance, part of an > > annual jazz festival in the city northwest of Toronto, is also the > > jumping-off point for a multimillion-dollar research project that > seeks to understand what happens when an ad hoc group of people > make > off-the-cuff music together. The goal: to replicate that > experience > in other areas as diverse as architecture and medical research. > > "When it works, it is quite wondrous," says Ajay Heble, the > University of Guelph English professor leading the project. He is > also the artistic director of the jazz festival. > > "Improvisation can be a model for new ways of understanding," said > > Prof. Heble, a musician himself. "A group of people who may have > never met, who know very little about one another - may not even > speak the same language - can create inspired music. What makes it > > work and what does this tell us? These are the kinds of questions > we > are asking." > > The $4-million project, to be announced tomorrow, will span seven > years and bring together 33 researchers in a variety of fields > plus > 12 community groups. Participants come from Canada, the United > States, England and Australia. The bulk of the funding is provided > by > the federal government, with a $2.5-million grant from the Social > Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. (The seven- > year > grant is the largest awarded by the federal agency and is given to > > between two and four major projects each year.) > > > The University of Guelph, McGill University, the University of > British Columbia and the University of Montreal are also providing > > funding, as are several private foundations and partners. > > In a society where increasingly diverse groups must work together, > > the researchers believe musical improvisation could provide models > > for co-operation and a tool to help build confidence and trust. > > "It seems more and more, improvisation is the way the planet works > > and we should be studying it quite closely," said New York > musician > and scholar, George Lewis, another partner in the project and the > director of the Center for Jazz Studies at Columbia University. > "The > purpose is to find out how human beings tick and to develop new > knowledge from music which we can generalize to many different areas." > > The project will generate books and conferences as well as several > > outreach programs that will be used as case studies. > > A Vancouver group will bring an improvisational artist to work > with a > choir in the city's troubled Lower Eastside. Another project > involving the Montreal-based Canadian Centre for Architecture will > > examine how improvisation can play a role in the creation of > public > spaces. A project exploring the therapeutic possibilities of > improvisation is also being discussed. > > Eric Lewis, a McGill University philosophy professor and another > member of the research team, will look at improvisation and its > implications for intellectual property law - a hot issue with the > rising use of sampling in music. That topic also will be the focus > of > one of four policy papers. > > The researchers, he said, are making an effort to make their work > relevant and involve groups outside the academic community. Such > outreach also has become a key goal of SSHRC as it works to > demonstrate the relevance of social science and humanities > research > to the general public. > > The researchers themselves plan to put their theories to the test. > A > group of them - some accomplished musicians, some less so - will > take > the stage later this week for an improvisational performance with > the > playful title Not Just Talking Heads. > > Prof. Lewis of McGill, a trumpet player, says every meeting of the > > research group has included a jam session and he thinks that > experience has changed the way he relates to his fellow partners > in > the project. And he believes the experience is quite different > from > the one he would have had playing from a score where decisions had > > been made by the composer. > > "I think our success in pulling off the project in no small part > will > be due to the fact that we improvise together," he said. " I know > I > learn things about fellow improvisers as people when I improvise > with > them that have very serious and positive ramifications in my > ability > to work with them," he said. > > "I felt like I trusted them more. I felt much more at ease with > them > and I think that has improved my working relationship with them > and, > I say this quite honestly, it surprised me." > > Perhaps, he suggested, the project might even produce new models > for > sharing research based on the experience of musical improvisation. > > > > - -- > http://xoetc.antville.org > Who Does She Think She Is? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:21:37 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mags > Subject: welcome back mark NJC > > hey sweetie, yes indeed you are remembered. i'm glad to see you > back in the fold. i keep fading in and out of joni land too, > depending on what's going on. > > so nice to see your name in lights, again. i love your writing, > and i know that the new list members are in for a treat. > > hope you and travis are well. > > love love always, > > mags (with a new email addy) > xo > > > - --------------------------------- > All new Yahoo! Mail - > - --------------------------------- > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:17:45 +0100 > From: "Paul Headon" > Subject: UK shine purchasers > > Hi all. > > I have discovered a site that will sell a pre-ordered copy of > Shine for 6.99 > GBP including postage. > > http://www.bangcd.com/productDetail.aspx?prod_id=3042¤cy=GBP&source=Cia > oUK > > I am not an employee of the company . It just strikes me as a very > very low > price :-). Enjoy. > > > Best wishes, > > Paul Headon. > (From Wales) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:22:10 -0400 > From: Victor Johnson > Subject: Re: njc- off-the-cuff music > > I just returned last night from the annual gathering I go to over > Labor Day, some 700 people, camping in the woods and playing > music. > Much of what goes on is making off-the-cuff music. I particularly > > enjoyed a jam Saturday night...it must have been a couple of hours > > before dawn...I had been playing for awhile with two incredible > mandolin players, and had just started playing Peaceful Easy > Feeling, > when another mando playing friend showed up and what transpired > was > this incredible 3 part harmony. From there we went into Helpless > Hoping, Seven Bridges Road, Ripple, Brokedown Palace...just > hauntingly beautiful. And Sunday night, with many of the same > people, I started Sugar Mountain, playing it really slow, not > speeding up at all, just dragging it, fighting the urge to pick up > > the pace, and after the last verse..about leaving home, started > playing faster, staying on the d minor, g major riff and then > suddenly had the notion to switch to d major and go into I Know > You > Rider, which is about someone who is going away, and the two songs > > fit together so well...it was incredibly poignant, and the > mandolins > were just tearing it up. > > There was also really good music on the electric stage, > particularly, > this band called Kelly and the Cowboys, I think from somewhere in > the > South...if you had heard them, you would have thought Patsy Cline > was > there herself. She had the most amazing voice...I especially > enjoyed > hearing them do I Fall to Pieces. Even when you're not right in > front of the stage, the music carries through the woods...I had > actually been taking a nap in the late afternoon and woke up to > hearing her voice which was just so heavenly. > > Now its back to school and homework and practicing, etc... though > it > was definitely an experience not to be missed and I am still > filled > with inspiration, wonder, and awe. > > Victor > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:55:37 EDT > From: OzWoman321@aol.com > Subject: South Florida Folk Festival > > Hello, All - > > Apologies for the crosspost - hope to see you many of you here in > January! > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From Bob Singer, director of the South Florida Folk Festival: > > We WILL have a festival this January; it WILL be on Martin Luther > King Day > weekend; it WILL be at Markham Park (post Hurricane Wilma, > Easterlin has a few > kinks with FEMA trailers still there and a shortage of personnel). > We have a > management team put together (which is very similar to the 2005 > team) and are > enthusiastic about our 2008 festival! > > Remember the deadline for the Singer/Songwriter contest is > September 15, > 2007; the deadline for the performer application is October 1, 2007. > > If you haven't applied already, please do so now (details at > www.southfloridafolkfest.com). > > > Susan > www.labyrinthcafe.com > > "Well, something's lost but something's gained in living every day..." > ~ Joni Mitchell > > "I am older now, I know the rise and gradual fall of a daily > victory..."~ Dar Williams > > > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:19:35 -0700 > From: "Randy Remote" > Subject: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc > > The Jonathan Demme film "Neil Young: Heart of Gold" > will premiere on Showtime tonight at 8PM EST. > Concert film with material from Prarie Wind and an=20 > appearance by Emmylou Harris..this is the first time=20 > it's played on cable to my knowledge. Other times (EST): > Showtime > Sep 19 9:05 AM=20 > Showtime Too (whatever that is!) > Tomorrow 10:15 PM=20 > Monday 1:45 PM > Sep 15 8:30 AM > > Welcome back Mark in Seattle! > > Saw this article about perfect pitch: > > CHICAGO - Musicians and singers work for years to develop their > sense of > pitch, but few can name a musical note without a reference tone. U.S. > researchers on Monday said one gene may be the key to that coveted > ability. > Only 1 in 10,000 people have perfect or absolute pitch, the uncanny > ability to name the note of just about any sound without the help > of a > reference tone. > "One guy said, 'I can name the pitch of anything -- even farts,'" said > Dr. Jane Gitschier of the University of California, San Francisco, > whosestudy appears in the journal Proceedings of the National > Academy of > Sciences. > She and colleagues analyzed the results of a three-year, Web-based > survey and musical test that required participants to identify notes > without the help of a reference tone. More than 2,200 people completed > the 20-minute test. > "We noticed that pitch-naming ability was roughly an all-or-nothing > phenomenon," she said. > That lead researchers to conclude that one gene, or perhaps a few, may > be behind this talent. > Dr. Gitschier said those with perfect pitch were able to correctly > identify both piano tones and pure computer-generated tones that were > devoid of the distinctive sounds of any musical instrument. > She said people with perfect pitch were able to pick out the pure > toneswith ease. And they also tended to have had early musical > training -- > before the age of 7. > "We think it probably takes the two things," she said. > They also found that perfect pitch tends to deteriorate with age. > "As people get older, their perception goes sharp. If a note C is > played, and they're 15, they will say it's a C. But if they're 50, > theymight say it's a C sharp." > "This can be very disconcerting for them," Dr. Gitschier said. > The most commonly misidentified note, based on the study, is a G > sharp.That may be because G sharp is overshadowed by A, its > neighbour on the > scale, they said. A is often used by orchestras in the West as a > tuningreference. > Dr. Gitschier said she and her colleagues were focusing on identifying > the gene responsible for perfect pitch, which will involve gene > mapping.Then they will try to figure out what is different in > people with > absolute pitch. > "We'll have to play it by ear, so to speak," she said. > RR > ps 4 million bucks to study jamming? Find me that grant writer! > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had > a name of spacer.gif] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:57:12 EDT > From: Motitan@aol.com > Subject: Blue On Blue > > So I was watching some DVD's of mine, including some Joni and > ended up > wondering about Joni's early songs. I was watching a very early > performance of a > song called "Blue On Blue" or she also said she called it, "Song > to a > Daydreamer." My question is, has Joni ever said anything about > these early songs of > hers? Did she ever perform this song (or other early ones you > may find) > anytime again a few years later or did she just drop them when > she got new songs > she obviously must have liked more? The song, "Blue On Blue" is > beautiful > although I will say it does sound very much of its time. > > Blue on blue > Sky's in your eyes > Steer you away like I wasn't here > Where do you go when you fantasize > That you wish I'd disappear > Leave you to dreaming and leave you alone > Lost in a world that's all your own > Can I come, too > Blue on blue > > Dreams like you are making now > Are very hard to share > All I ask is one small favor > Dream a dream and wish me there > > Gold on gold, sun in your hair > Spinning the rainbow, weaving the wind > Bluing the dye for the midnight air > Counting the gold at the rainbows end > Rapier princess whispers your name > Out of the time before I came > I'll never know > Gold on gold > > Dreams like you are making now > Are very hard to share > All I ask is one small favor > Dream a dream and wish me there > > - -Monika > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all- > new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:48:37 -0700 > From: "Lindsay Moon" > Subject: This Flight cover > > Secondly, check out this Delta Blues-ish take on This Flight > Tonight...it> ain't Joni, and it ain't Nazareth. I think it's > pretty killer. Maybe > > it derivates too much from the original for Randy's tastes: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTAtaNKFOVY > > > > Bob > > Bob, I'm a little behind on my digests, but did take a look at > this. A > wonderful cover! He really made it his own. I think Joni would > have a big > standing ovation for him. > > Lindsay > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2007 #346 > ***************************** > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here: joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:38:00 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Neil Young film tonight and perfect pitch njc It was fanNeiltastic-I'd never seen it before either. Particularly cool was 4 Strong Winds with 8 or 10 acoustic guitar players onstage (what a lush sound), with the strings in the background...and Neil alone onstage aftershow doing Old Laughing Lady. From: "Em" >I watched part of it! was wonderful, what I saw of it. I loves me some > Neil! And Emmylou. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 17:30:38 -0400 From: "Tortorici, Frank" Subject: bass player? I'm on digest and someone mentioned that Joni was in love with her bass player during the WTRF tour... Is this true and was it JACO???!!? Frank Tortorici Associate Director, Communications/Media Relations The Conference Board (212) 339-0231 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: bass player? Yes it's true - it was Larry Klein. Bob NP: Led Zeppelin, "You Shook Me" "Tortorici, Frank" wrote: I'm on digest and someone mentioned that Joni was in love with her bass player during the WTRF tour... Is this true and was it JACO???!!? - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:25:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Blue On Blue Ah, a subject near & dear to my heart, Monica - I LOVE Joni's early songs and still recall the thrill I had when I first saw the tracklisting for the Second Frets Tape Tree and saw song titles like "Brandy Eyes", "Go Tell The Drummer Man", an so on. And what's amazing is that very few of these songs are throwaways; several of them like "Blue On Blue", "Just Like Me" were popular in her live shows and could have been hits. Lyrically they were a bit wispy at times but still very nice to listen to and certainly on par with what was on the radio in its day. For better or for worse, Joni wrote a LOT in those early years and she seemed to always gravitate to her newest material and in so doing left a lot of these songs behind. Fortunately, thanks to archivists and collectors we do have live and in some cases studio recordings of some of them. These are the recordings I cherish the most out of all the unreleased stuff that I have. It's also a big thrill to hear a cover of one of these; back in the 60's The Foggy Dew-O recorded "Born To Take The Highway", Fairport Convention recorded "Eastern Rain", The Ian Campbell Group recorded "Dr. Junk" and recently Henning Olsen/Big Yellow Taxi have been resurrecting some of these as well. You can check out the CD here: http://cdbaby.com/cd/bigyellowtaxi4 (The unreleased songs are the 1st three). This CD is well worth owning. Bob NP: Simon & Garfunkel, "At The Zoo" (live) - --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:28:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Word To The Wise LOL - when you sit down to record a Joni cover for YouTube, you probably should turn your cellphone off... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzLFUasfr9I Monica, here's another reason for you NOT to have one. Bob NP: Joni, "The Last Time I Saw Richard" (T-log) - --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 01:01:05 +0200 From: "Jonathan Lowe" Subject: Hello After subscribing to the list a few months ago, but not posting until now, I just wanted to come out of lurkdom to say "Hi" and to send my appreciation to all of you for the information about Joni I have picked up here. I was amazed and delighted to find this wonderful community of people still interested in Joni and loving her music despite the lack of new material in recent years. I came along hoping to find information about where I might be able to get rare or live tracks...and then within days of subscribing...the release of Shine was announced, so my thirst for something new will finally be quenched. I've been a fan for 25 years, and I am so looking forward to hearing the new record and getting to love it gradually, the way it happened with each Joni record I bought, so long ago... Thanks, Jonathan Lowe [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:56:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Hello Welcome, Jonathan - yes, you picked a GOOD time to join the community, it's kinda quiet now but will be hectic soon enough. And I'm sure that you'll get a chance to get some of those rarities you originally signed on for. You're in Holland? What part? It's the loveliest country I've ever seen. Bob NP: Richard X. Heyman, "The Drone Song" - --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:24:44 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Over The Rhine" tour behind the new record, njc The new CD from Cincinnati's "Over The Rhine", entitled "The Trumpet Child" is already in stores. I guess I'm not on the mailing list anymore but... They'll be playing in Seattle on 9/13 and 9/14. (Hi Mark.) LA on 9/21. (Hi Kakki et al.) Asheville, NC on 10/17 (Are you still in Asheville, Victor?) Greenville, SC on 10/19 (Hi Bob.) NYC on 10/26 (Shout out to Kay, David, Deb, and you know...) Annapolis, MD on 10/27 (Hi Claud & John) Boston (Hey Ashara & Chuck) Philadelphia, PA (Are you lurking, Deb?) Chicago 11/24 (surely there are some JMDLers?) Ann Arbor (Yael, you really should move to Columbus and root for the Buckeyes.) Sadly, no shows are scheduled for Toronto yet, Catherine. Jim L. More towns at: http://www.overtherhine.com/shows.php ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:27:12 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Hello Welcome Jonathan. Hope you enjoy your time here. Tell us more about yourself. Are you a musician as well? Only a few more days to new Joni and Herbie. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band http://www.preservationhall.com On Sep 5, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Jonathan Lowe wrote: After subscribing to the list a few months ago, but not posting until now, I just wanted to come out of lurkdom to say "Hi" and to send my appreciation to all of you for the information about Joni I have picked up here. I was amazed and delighted to find this wonderful community of people still interested in Joni and loving her music despite the lack of new material in recent years. I came along hoping to find information about where I might be able to get rare or live tracks...and then within days of subscribing...the release of Shine was announced, so my thirst for something new will finally be quenched. I've been a fan for 25 years, and I am so looking forward to hearing the new record and getting to love it gradually, the way it happened with each Joni record I bought, so long ago... Thanks, Jonathan Lowe [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 23:03:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Hello - --- Jonathan Lowe wrote: > After subscribing to the list a few months ago, but > not posting until now, I > just wanted to come out of lurkdom to say "Hi" and > to send my appreciation > to all of you for the information about Joni I have > picked up here. I was > amazed and delighted to find this wonderful > community of people still > interested in Joni and loving her music despite the > lack of new material in > recent years. Welcome, Jonathan, and any other newbies. I haven't been reading posts thoroughly for a while because of being on vacation and other things, so sorry if I've missed anyone. I think, once a Joni fan, always a Joni fan, but I could be mistaken. Some people dropped out after she stopped using the dulcimer. I await with excitement, and just a little trepidation, the release of "Shine" - can anything live up to the anticipation, I wonder? We shall find out soon enough! NP Some live song by Laura Veirs, but I don't know its name. Catherine ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #347 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------