From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #321 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, August 14 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 321 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem ["AJ" ] Re: yeats ["AJ" ] Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem ["AJ" ] Re: yeats [Victor Johnson ] Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem [jeannie ] Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem's First Origination [jeannie Subject: Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeannie" >I forgot the smooth move over from Romantic to Modernist. It's all in the >game of love and truth and beauty! > > Jean Actually there were a number of things in between! The Victorians, for one (Tennyson, Matthew Arnold, those guys--not a particularly distinguished period in English poetry IMO). Early Yeats was actually quite Romantic and then, depending on whose version one believes, he met the younger Ezra Pound and wrote the work he will be remembered for so long as anyone reads on this planet. OK, I need to do about a million things before tomorrow and I'm somehow compelled to be online. That ever happen to anyone else? - --AJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:40:59 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: yeats - ----- Original Message ----- From: "starvingartist" To: Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: yeats > > I'm sure I'm misunderstanding, but "If" is Kipling. I like what she did > with > Yeats. > It was completely clear that the OP meant that he didn't care what she did with "If," because it's an inconsequential poem, but that he cares very much what she does to Yeats, particularly to one of his most important poems. - --AJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:47:38 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeannie" > You make a mighty strong argument there and I admire your passion for > Yeats. Yet, I know that Joni did give Yeat's poem new interest and respect > beyond any CD sales reports and the English machinery. > This isn't a perfect analogy, but just imagine how offended we would all be if, say, Jessica Simpson or Brittney Spears covered a great Mitchell song and decided to change the lyric and the parts of the melody. Sometimes exposure, if it diminishes a great work of art, just isn't worth it. - --AJ (All I am asking, Is leave Yeats alone, lol) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:01:24 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: yeats On Aug 13, 2007, at 10:40 PM, AJ wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: "starvingartist" > > To: > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 9:17 PM > Subject: yeats > > >> >> I'm sure I'm misunderstanding, but "If" is Kipling. I like what >> she did with >> Yeats. >> > > It was completely clear that the OP meant that he didn't care > what she did with "If," because it's an inconsequential poem, > but that he cares very much what she does to Yeats, particularly > to one of his most important poems. hardly anything is completely clear when it comes to email. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:29:17 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem AJ wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeannie" > You make a mighty strong argument there and I admire your passion for > Yeats. Yet, I know that Joni did give Yeat's poem new interest and respect > beyond any CD sales reports and the English machinery. > This isn't a perfect analogy, but just imagine how offended we would all be if, say, Jessica Simpson or Brittney Spears covered a great Mitchell song and decided to change the lyric and the parts of the melody. Sometimes exposure, if it diminishes a great work of art, just isn't worth it. - --AJ (All I am asking, Is leave Yeats alone, lol) An imperfect, horrific analogy, AJ. Even Alfred E. Neuman sounds better than Britainny and Daisy Duke of Earl. I'll just play Hank Williams bearing his soul all night long and leave William Shakespeare for another hard-wired time Jeannie. NP: Three Chords And The Truth--Ry Cooder--My Name Is Buddy - --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:37:04 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Slouching Towards Bethlehem's First Origination AJ: Where do you think Yeats got his inspiration from for the poem? Jeannie AJ wrote: - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeannie" > You make a mighty strong argument there and I admire your passion for > Yeats. Yet, I know that Joni did give Yeat's poem new interest and respect > beyond any CD sales reports and the English machinery. > This isn't a perfect analogy, but just imagine how offended we would all be if, say, Jessica Simpson or Brittney Spears covered a great Mitchell song and decided to change the lyric and the parts of the melody. Sometimes exposure, if it diminishes a great work of art, just isn't worth it. - --AJ (All I am asking, Is leave Yeats alone, lol) - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #321 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------