From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #319 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, August 13 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 319 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- sjc, Shooting stars for Joni tonight ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: How many times have you seen Joan? [Motitan@aol.com] Re: sjc, Shooting stars for Joni tonight [Motitan@aol.com] Re: How many times have you seen Joan? [Brian Gross ] "Shine" again ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Gene Autry show Pictures? [Wes ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:28:05 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: sjc, Shooting stars for Joni tonight Heads up tonight! Don't ignore all the stars up above you, chers Joniamigos. I came upon this article in the high-brow "USA Weekend" magazine (which is about as middle-class circumstance as "Parade"). http://usaweekend.com/07_issues/070805/070805skywatch.html "August 2007 will be a month to remember for sky watching, hosting a unique combination of shooting stars, a total lunar eclipse, enchanting formations and other highlights that may not be seen again until the next decade, all in honor of the September 25th Starbucks' release of Joni Mitchell's SHINE." (LOL....I made up the last clause, naturellement.) It's the judgement of the moon and stars! I do believe it. "Perseids will shine brighter, thanks to a new moon. A meteor shower happens when tiny specks of comet debris enter Earth's atmosphere, creating an eye-catching light show as they vaporize during a streak through our atmosphere. One of the most impressive of these showers, Perseids, happens when Earth passes through the debris trail of Comet Swift-Tuttle as the comet makes its 130-year orbit around the sun. (TIC! We're only particles of change I know I know orbiting around the sun). Every brilliant flash is a fragment burning at 37 miles per second. And you'll be able to spot as many as 100 of these flashes per hour when the shower peaks on the nights of Aug. 12 and 13. Adding to its appeal is the fact that, this year, a new moon falls on Aug. 12 for the first time since 1999, so skies will be at their darkest (and, therefore, the meteors will be quite visible)." And at night the stars they put on a show FOR FREE And, darlings, you can share it all with me and JT, in honor of Joni, up on the roof, up on the rooOOOooof.... (Do you remember how he called her "une etoile scintillante" at the Canadian Songwriters' Hall of Fame ceremony?) When this old world starts a getting me down And people are just too much for me to face because they have NO COMMON COURTESY THESE DAYS I'll climb way up to the top of the stairs And all my cares just drift right into space On the roof, its peaceful as can be And there the world below don't bother me, no, no... And check out *this*! "The Wasco Indians believed, for example, that stars were arrows flung into the sky by the fabled Coyote." "The fabled Coyote"? How did they know about Coyote? Paint a starry night again, man! Love, Patti P. NPOMC: "Somewhere Out There", Linda Ronstadt and James Ingram. http://www.ladyjayes.com/somewhereoutthere.html _________________________________________________________________ See what youre getting intobefore you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:50:40 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: How many times have you seen Joan? I've had the pleasure of seeing Joni 3 times. The first was on her birthday, 11/07/98 at the Alexander Memorial Coliseum in Atlanta. David Mingus, Pearl Weisberg, & I were contacted by Wally B. to do the report and photography for JoniMitchell.com. It was the first time I got to meet a few jmdlers. It was great having stage passes and to lean up on the stage taking photos of Joni. Unfortunately, my camera battery was dead, so I just pretended to take pics. LOL The second time was in West Palm Beach in 2000 (?) during her BSN tour. Nice small venue, and got to sit up close. Met Jerry Notaro and a couple of other jmdlers there. My third and favorite time seeing Joni, was going to Toronto with Coyote Rick in October,2001 when she got her star and they had an homage for her at the Harbourfront theatre. We had no idea how good our seats were. We were in the 2nd row, and the first row was empty. After a few minutes, Joni, Larry, and Kilauren sat right in front of us. I was right behind Kilauren and wanted to steal the tic tacs from her open purse that was under her seat. LOL Joni was right next to her. I was close enough to brush her hair......but I was respectful. It was nice when she got up on stage and was interviewed, plus she played the piano. Got to shake her hand at the reception, and had fun with about 20 jmdlers. In 2004, I did drive by her house in LA, but didn't see her......so that doesn't count. Sure hope she tours for "Shine". Even if she only does one concert and it's in Anartica......I'm so there. Jimmy ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:38:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Parts of Yes Subject: Imagine Joni covering Patti Smith? I was recently listening to Patti Smith's "Trampin'" and her song, "Cartwheels" reminded me of early 90's era JM! Wow, imagine a cover of it...:) Have there ever been PS covers or vice versa I wonder? Sean "Going to the church You chant For my downfall Chanting for my house My friends You want it all The pillows on my bed The visions in my head You want too much You want too badly You want everything for nothing" -Joni Mitchell, "The Windfall (Everything for Nothing)" (1991) "What's someone like me doing in a life like this?" - Cyndi Lauper, "Someone Like Me" (1993) "It took an hour, maybe a day But once I really listened, the noise Just went away" - Liz Phair, "Stratford-On-Guy" (1993) "On a clear day, I bet you can see the class struggle from here..." - - Katrin Cartlidge (Hannah) in Mike Leigh's "Career Girls" (1997) "All I know of you is in my memory All I ask is you Remember me." - Suzanne Vega "Rosemary" (1998) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:45:54 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Joni Stripped Bare Yes I can see it Kate. It's a wolf. Love, Sherelle Kate wrote: Yes I can see the woman in the moon very clearly w/o making it bigger. It does have the flavor of blue & the features do resemble Joni's imo. I've always been able to see the woman in the moon that is in my sky at night when the moon is full. Some others cannot as much as I try to point it out. You either see it or you don't I guess. Kate (who has a face, but not her own, in the moon on her own cd- can you see it? www.katebennett.com) _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:43:47 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: How many times have you seen Joan? In a message dated 8/12/2007 8:01:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, FMYFL@aol.com writes: Sure hope she tours for "Shine". Even if she only does one concert and it's in Anartica......I'm so there. Jimmy - -------------------------------------------------------------- I'd meet you there! I would find my way! I would face my number one enemy (cold and snowy weather) to see Joni live. Now that is something! If you knew me and knew how much I despise the cold, you'd realize the severity of my statement. - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:45:27 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: sjc, Shooting stars for Joni tonight Man, I wanted to watch the sky tonight but they say storms are moving in! Plus there's no way in hell I'd be able to see anything in the city I live. It's too lit up. - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 19:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Gross Subject: Re: How many times have you seen Joan? Coming in from the cold to say I guess I'm extraordinarily lucky to have had the pleasure of seeing Joni perform 8 times. The first 3 were in "prehistoric" times: 8/21/74 Temple Ambler Music Festival on the Miles of Aisles tour. Somewhat disappointed at the time because Joni live with the LA Express wasn't the same as early Joni on lp. Yes, youth is wasted on the young, isn't it? 2/16/76 Nosebleed seats in the Spectrum. The acoustics were awful. The recording of the concert is much better than my recollections of it from the time. 8/28/79 Mann Music Center. A great show in a wonderful open-air venue. I still have the very well-worn t-shirt from this show. And the last 5 during JMDL times with lots of other list members: 8/15/98 A Day in the Garden. Joni and I both finally made it to Woodstock, 29 years late, but much better late than never. 7/1/99 Joni's Jazz in Central Park. The rain stopped just as the show began! Lots of wonderful performances by artists who love Joni's music as much as we jmdlers do. 5/22/00 BSN Tour at the Theater at Madison Square Garden. With a pre-show get together at David Lahm's "Judy's Chelsea" 6/2/00 Last show on the BSN Tour. Preceded by a banquet at the Chinese Cafe. My seat in the second row center of the pit was the closest I've ever been to Joni. 10/19/01 And finally, upper row seats at the Homage in Toronto. It was truly special to have Joni sit down at the piano and play for us. It made us cry. I hope she'll play in support of these newest (Shine and the as-yet unknown second album for Hear) recordings, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd turn Blue. I hope to see those of you who can make it when the visual exhibit opens in NYC sometime this fall. Brian in south jersey usa - ----------------------------------------------------------- Politicians and diapers both need to be changed often. And usually for the same reasons. - ----------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:06:02 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: NJC This is crazy.... (long) The title is asking about cheating but I don't think that is the real problem! This is quite disturbing that someone would dive into a fantasy world so much that they would spend real $$ to enhance their fantasy life and spend so much time there that it negatively affects their real life. You need to live your real life man! Have a look at the article and tell me what YOU think: "Is This Man Cheating on His Wife? Alexandra Alter on the toll one man's virtual marriage is taking on his real one and what researchers are discovering about the surprising power of synthetic identity. By ALEXANDRA ALTER August 10, 2007; Page W1 On a scorching July afternoon, as the temperature creeps toward 118 degrees in a quiet suburb east of Phoenix, Ric Hoogestraat sits at his computer with the blinds drawn, smoking a cigarette. While his wife, Sue, watches television in the living room, Mr. Hoogestraat chats online with what appears on the screen to be a tall, slim redhead. He's never met the woman outside of the computer world of Second Life, a well-chronicled digital fantasyland with more than eight million registered "residents" who get jobs, attend concerts and date other users. He's never so much as spoken to her on the telephone. But their relationship has taken on curiously real dimensions. They own two dogs, pay a mortgage together and spend hours shopping at the mall and taking long motorcycle rides. This May, when Mr. Hoogestraat, 53, needed real-life surgery, the redhead cheered him up with a private island that cost her $120,000 in the virtual world's currency, or about $480 in real-world dollars. Their bond is so strong that three months ago, Mr. Hoogestraat asked Janet Spielman, the 38-year-old Canadian woman who controls the redhead, to become his virtual wife. Ric Hoogestraat's avatar, Dutch Hoorenbeek The woman he's legally wed to is not amused. "It's really devastating," says Sue Hoogestraat, 58, an export agent for a shipping company, who has been married to Mr. Hoogestraat for seven months. "You try to talk to someone or bring them a drink, and they'll be having sex with a cartoon." Mr. Hoogestraat plays down his online relationship, assuring his wife that it's only a game. While many busy people can't fathom the idea of taking on another set of commitments, especially imaginary ones, Second Life and other multiplayer games are moving into the mainstream. With some 30 million people now involved world-wide, there is mounting concern that some are squandering, even damaging their real lives by obsessing over their "second" ones. That's always been a concern with videogames, but a field of study suggests that the boundary between virtual worlds and reality may be more porous than experts previously imagined. ONLINE TODAY b" Photographer Robbie Cooper and writer Tracy Spaight document virtual worlds around the globe in the book "Alter Ego." They answer questions1 about the nuances of identity play and the cultural differences of gaming. Also, a slideshow includes photos2 of subjects depicted in the book and comments from Mr. Cooper.Nearly 40% of men and 53% of women who play online games said their virtual friends were equal to or better than their real-life friends, according to a survey of 30,000 gamers conducted by Nick Yee, a recent Ph.D. graduate from Stanford University. More than a quarter of gamers said the emotional highlight of the past week occurred in a computer world, according to the survey, which was published in 2006 by Massachusetts Institute of Technology Press's journal Presence. "There's a fuzziness that's emerging between the virtual world and the real world," says Edward Castronova, associate professor in the Department of Telecommunications at Indiana University, Bloomington. Weekends As 'Dutch' A burly man with a long gray ponytail, thick sideburns and a salt-and-pepper handlebar mustache, Mr. Hoogestraat looks like the cross between a techie and the Grateful Dead fan that he is. He drives a motorcycle and wears faded black Harley-Davidson T-shirts around the house. A former college computer graphics teacher, Mr. Hoogestraat was never much of a game enthusiast before he discovered Second Life. But since February, he's been spending six hours a night and often 14 hours at a stretch on weekends as Dutch Hoorenbeek, his six-foot-nine, muscular, motorcycle-riding cyber-self. The character looks like a younger, physically enhanced version of him: a biker with a long black ponytail, strong jaw and thick handlebar mustache. In the virtual world, he's a successful entrepreneur with a net worth of about $1.5 million in the site's currency, the linden, which can be earned or purchased through Second Life's Web site at a rate of about 250 lindens per U.S. dollar. He owns a mall, a private beach club, a dance club and a strip club. He has 25 employees, online persons known as avatars who are operated by other players, including a security guard, a mall concierge, a manager and assistant manager, and the "exotic dancers" at his club. He designs bikinis and lingerie, and sells them through his chain store, Red Headed Lovers. "Here, you're in total control," he says, moving his avatar through the mall using the arrow keys on his keyboard. Virtual worlds like Second Life have fast become a testing ground for the limits of relationships, both online and off. In the game, cyber sex, marriage and divorce are common. Avatars have sued one another, as well as the site's parent company, Linden Lab, in real-life courts for in-game grievances such as copyright infringement and property disputes. The site now has more than eight million registered "residents," up from 100,000 in January 2006, though the number of active users is closer to 450,000, according to Linden Lab's most recent data. A typical "gamer" spends 20 to 40 hours a week in a virtual world. 3 A closer look at some popular online worlds. Academics have only recently begun to intensively study the social dynamics of virtual worlds, but some say they are astonished by how closely virtual relationships mirror real life. "People respond to interactive technology on social and emotional levels much more than we ever thought," says Byron Reeves, a professor of communication at Stanford University. "People feel bad when something bad happens to their avatar, and they feel quite good when something good happens." On a neurological level, players may not distinguish between virtual and real-life relationships, recent studies suggest. In an experiment conducted at the University of Washington's Institute for Learning and Brain Sciences, test subjects were hooked up to neuroimaging machines while they played a simple computer game in which they moved colored discs to form a pattern. When told that they were playing with a person rather than a computer, participants showed increased activity in areas of the brain that govern social interaction. Other experiments show that people socializing in virtual worlds remain sensitive to subtle cues like eye contact. In one study, participants moved their avatars back if another character stood too close, even though the space violation was merely virtual, says Jeremy Bailenson, director of Stanford's Virtual Human Interaction Lab, which was created five years ago to study social behavior in virtual worlds. "Our brains are not specialized for 21st-century media," says Prof. Reeves. "There's no switch that says, 'Process this differently because it's on a screen.' " A Full-Blown Dance Party On a Saturday afternoon in July, Mr. Hoogestraat decides to go to the beach. He lights a cigarette and enters Second Life, one of 42,752 people logged on at the time. Immediately, he gets an instant message from Tenaj Jackalope, his Second Life wife, saying she'll be right there. They meet at their home, a three-story, modern-looking building on a grassy bluff overlooking the ocean, then head to his beach club by teleporting, or instantly moving to a new screen by typing in a location. A full-blown dance party is under way. A dozen avatars, digital representations of other live players, gyrate on the sand, twisting their hips and waving their arms. Several dance topless and some are fully nude. Dutch gets pelted with instant messages. "What took you so long, Dutch?" a dancer asks. "Howdy, Boss Man," an avatar named Whiskey Girl says. Before discovering Second Life, Mr. Hoogestraat had bounced between places and jobs, working as an elementary schoolteacher and a ski instructor, teaching computer graphics and spending two years on the road selling herbs and essential oils at Renaissance fairs. Along the way, he picked up a bachelor's degree in education from Arizona State University and took graduate courses in education and instructional technology at the University of Wyoming and the University of Arizona. He currently works as a call-center operator for Vangent Inc., a large corporation that outsources calls for the government and private companies. He makes $14 an hour. Mr. Hoogestraat learned about Second Life in February, while watching a morning news segment. His mother had just been hospitalized with pancreatic cancer -- she died two weeks later -- and he wanted a distraction. He was fascinated by the virtual world's free-wheeling, Vegas-like atmosphere. With his computer graphics background, he quickly learned how to build furniture and design clothing. He upgraded his avatar, buying defined stomach muscles, a furry chest and special hair that sways when he walks. Other, missing anatomy was also available for purchase. Before long, Mr. Hoogestraat was spending most nights and weekends acting out his avatar's life. When Mr. Hoogestraat was diagnosed with diabetes and a failing gall bladder a few months ago, he was home-bound for five weeks. Some days, he played from a quarter to six in the morning until two in the morning, eating in front of the computer and pausing only for bathroom breaks. During one marathon session, Mr. Hoogestraat met Tenaj (Janet spelled backward) while shopping. They became fast friends, then partners. A week later, he asked her to move into the small apartment he rented in Phantom Island, an area of Second Life. In May, they married in a small ceremony in a garden overlooking a pond. She wore a strapless white dress that she bought at a Second Life yard sale and he wore a tuxedo. Thirty of their avatar friends attended. "There's a huge trust between us," says Ms. Spielman, a divorced mother of two who works in office sales in Calgary, Alberta, and began logging on to Second Life in January. "We'll tell each other everything." That intimacy hasn't spilled into real life. They never speak and have no plans to meet. Aside from the details they share over Second Life instant messages, each knows little about the other beyond what's posted on their brief online user profiles. Mr. Hoogestraat's real-life wife is losing patience with her husband's second life. "It's sad; it's a waste of human life," says Mrs. Hoogestraat, who is dark-haired and heavy-set with smooth, pale skin. "Everybody has their hobbies, but when it's from six in the morning until two in the morning, that's not a hobby, that's your life." Tenaj Jackalope and Dutch Hoorenbeek married in May. The real Mrs. Hoogestraat is no stranger to online communities -- she met her husband in a computer chat room three years ago. Both were divorced and had adult children from previous marriages, and Mrs. Hoogestraat says she was relieved to find someone educated and adventurous after years of failed relationships. Now, as she pays household bills, cooks, does laundry, takes care of their three dogs and empties ashtrays around the house while her husband spends hours designing outfits for virtual strippers and creating labels for virtual coffee cups, she wonders what happened to the person she married. Just a Game One Saturday night in early June, she discovered his cyber wife. He called her over to the computer to show her an outfit he had designed. There, above the image of the redheaded model, it said "Mrs. Hoorenbeek." When she confronted him, he huffily replied that it was just a game. Two weeks later, Mrs. Hoogestraat joined an online support group for spouses of obsessive online gamers called EverQuest Widows, named after another popular online fantasy game that players call Evercrack. "It's avalanched beyond repair," says Sharra Goddard, 30, Mrs. Hoogestraat's daughter and a sign-language interpreter in Chandler, Ariz. She says she and her two brothers have offered to help their mother move out of the house. Janet Spielman controls Tenaj Jackalope Mrs. Hoogestraat says she's not ready to separate. "I'm not a monster; I can see how it fulfills parts of his life that he can no longer do because of physical limitations, because of his age. His avatar, it's him at 25," she says. "He's a good person. He's just fallen down this rabbit hole." Mr. Hoogestraat, for his part, doesn't feel he's being unfaithful. "She watches TV, and I do this," he says. "I tried to get her involved so we could play together, but she wasn't interested." Family-law experts and marital counselors say they're seeing a growing number of marriages dissolve over virtual infidelity. Cyber affairs don't legally count as adultery unless they cross over into the real world, but they may be cited as grounds for divorce and could be a factor in determining alimony and child custody in some states, according to several legal experts, including Jeff Atkinson, professor at the DePaul University College of Law and author of the American Bar Association's "Guide to Marriage, Divorce and Families." This past June, the American Medical Association called for more psychiatric research on excessive gaming, but backed away from classifying videogame addiction as a formal disorder. Some gamers say the addictive dangers have been overstated, citing surveys that show most players spend fewer hours online than the average American spends watching television. And unlike television, online games are social. In June, when Mr. Hoogestraat first logged on to Second Life after he had his gall bladder removed, he was greeted with 50 messages from virtual friends asking him how the surgery went. Still, some antigaming organizations and psychiatrists say the social aspects of such games may be driving up pressure to play for longer stretches. Kimberly Young, a clinical psychologist and founder of the Center for Internet Addiction Recovery, said the majority of the 200 cases a year she sees for counseling involve interactive fantasy role-playing games. "They start forming attachments to other players," she says. "They start shutting out their primary relationships." Back in the world of Second Life, Mr. Hoogestraat's avatar and Tenaj have gotten bored at the beach, so they teleport to his office, a second-floor room with a large, tinted window overlooking the stage of the strip club he owns. Tenaj plays with her pug, Jolly Roger, commanding the dog to sit and fetch its toy. Dutch drinks a Corona, Mr. Hoogestraat's beer of choice in real life, and sits at his desk. For a while, Mr. Hoogestraat, sitting at his computer, stares at an image of his avatar sitting at his computer. The next morning, he's at his computer at 10 a.m., wearing the same black Harley-Davidson T-shirt. It is Sunday. He's been logged on to Second Life for four hours. Staring purposefully at the screen, he manipulates his avatar, who is shirtless in cut-off denim shorts and flip-flops and renovating the lower level of his mall. "Sunday is my heavy-duty work day," Mr. Hoogestraat explains. Earlier that morning, he evicted 10 shop owners who hadn't paid rent, and signed up four new vendors, including an avatar named Arianna who sells virtual necklaces and women's shoes. Sue Hoogestraat thinks her husband Ric spends too much with his Second Life wife. From the kitchen, Mrs. Hoogestraat asks if he wants breakfast. He doesn't answer. She sets a plate of breakfast pockets on the computer console and goes into the living room to watch a dog competition on television. For two hours, he focuses intently on building a coffee shop for the mall. Two other avatars gather to watch as he builds stairs and a counter, using his cursor to resize wooden planks. At 12:05, he's ready for a break. He changes his avatar into jeans, leather motorcycle chaps and motorcycle gloves, and teleports to a place with a curvy, mountain road. It's one of his favorite places for riding his Harley look-alike. The road is empty. He weaves his motorcycle across the lanes. Sunlight glints off the ocean in the distance. Mrs. Hoogestraat pauses on her way to the kitchen and glances at the screen. "You didn't eat your breakfast," she says. "I'm sorry, I didn't see it there," he responds. "They probably won't taste any good now," she says, taking the plate. Over the next five hours, Mr. Hoogestraat stares at the computer screen, barely aware of his physical surroundings. He adds a coffee maker and potted palms to the cafe, goes swimming through a sunken castle off his waterfront property, chats with friends at a biker clubhouse, meets a new store owner at the mall, counsels an avatar friend who had recently split up with her avatar boyfriend, and shows his wife Tenaj the coffee shop he's built. By 4 p.m., he's been in Second Life for 10 hours, pausing only to go to the bathroom. His wrists and fingers ache from manipulating the mouse to draw logos for his virtual coffee cups. His back hurts. He feels it's worth the effort. "If I work a little harder and make it a little nicer, it's more rewarding," he says. Sitting alone in the living room in front of the television, Mrs. Hoogestraat says she worries it will be years before her husband realizes that he's traded his real life for a pixilated fantasy existence, one that doesn't include her. "Basically, the other person is widowed," she says. "This other life is so wonderful; it's better than real life. Nobody gets fat, nobody gets gray. The person that's left can't compete with that." - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:31:35 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: SV: Joni Stripped Bare Marion said, >Why does everybody assume it's a moon? To me it appears to be the earth >seen from space, you know, the blue planet...> Right, good point. Plus, she's not singing "once in while, in a big blue moon." Okay, so, in the cover, we're looking at "Earth Shine". We're looking at all of humanity, at once, from a distance. That's very interesting. We're not dreaming "up" at the moon, looking for escape. The "Earth Shine" perspective fits the "Shine" lyric much better. Joni's looking at it all, seeing it all at once, asking it all to Shine. http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/albums/images/HMCD/188x188/HMCD-30457.jpg Buddists talk about "returning to the light" when we pass on, right? The "Shine" lyric links up to my "Theory of Generational Mojo". Someone mentioned that the Lyrics page has text for the instrumental track. It's not a lyric, though. It's not poetry. I think it's a preface to the album: http://www.jonimitchell.com/musician/song.cfm?id=OneWeekLastSummer Apparently, the Muse walked right out of the woods & visited her cabin one night. He brought a song and took a meal. (The blessings of parasites?) >>>I heard it in the wind last night, it; sounded like a song.>>> It's amazing already and it hasn't been released. Jim L. P.S. Did Mrs. Anderson like bears? Did Sadie? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:36:36 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Shine" again List price of McCartney's "Memory Almost Full" is $18.98 http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/albums/HMCD-30348/ List price of Joni's "Shine" is $19.98 http://www.concordmusicgroup.com/albums/HMCD-30457/ Is this bravado on the part of Hear Music? Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:50:42 -0400 From: Wes Subject: Gene Autry show Pictures? Does anyone on the list have a picture or a few pictures of the Joni set from the Gene Autry Museum in 1995? I would like to do a simple CD cover for a friend that I am giving the show to as a gift. I'd be happy to share the cover with the group once it's done. Please contact me or simply e-mail me the files or a link to the pics if you can help. Thanks! Wes ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #319 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------