From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #296 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Wednesday, August 1 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 296 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and guitars (njc) ;) [jeannie ] Re: countdown to S H I N E NJC [Gary Z ] Re: guitars, vobaculary and grammar (njc) ;) [jeannie ] Re: countdown to S H I N E NJC [Gary Z ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) [Em ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and guitars (njc) ;) [Em ] Re: cockfighting & dog fighting laws (njc) [Jerry Notaro ] countdown to S H I N E NJC & Bobble-heads ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Court and Spark [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Shine sampler [Motitan@aol.com] Re: guitars, vobaculary and grammar (njc) ;) [Motitan@aol.com] Re:NJC NJC NJC Shine sampler [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP [jeannie ] Re: Michelangelo A, Michelangelo B, [jeannie ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and guitars (njc) ;) [jeannie ] Re: Hammerstein Ballroom tribute concert [jeannie Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and guitars (njc) ;) Hello Deborah! Yes, it is a blow, IMHO. I'm real and I don't like racism but it's all over, like it or not. As the tensions of these present days get tighter, it seems like I hear more intolerance being spewed out of people's mouths like vomit and the innocents are always the scapegoats. That's why I stay determined to stand up for my convictions as long as I hurt no one intentionally. That is why enlightening and education is of upmost importance to me and obviously to most here on the JMDL. I don't sit around glued to the tubes or wires feigning that everything is fine and dandy, including myself. We're in a constant struggle for higher ground, if one chooses the right paths. You don't think the Germans still don't feel Hitler's sting even though his horrible war crimes were commited going on 70 years already and he wasn't even a German? And yet he was a Christian when he hated all Jews, so he had to have hated Jesus, too. Hypocrisy, too, kills me. I feel everybody's sting and it hurts, so be cool, fool, with me. I'll "drag" or bring baseball into this, Deborah, if I choose so, because with all of this steroid abuse, the lives of these baseball players is in peril. So, I'm glad you brought it up, just to be able to say I care for their lives, too. And if that dude, Vick, has his job, I shall not feel fine with that and I'm glad all this happened. Until he doesn't start sanctifying all life, I know what his soul is all about and it's barbaric. And about your opinions, I accept them, without much fuss or anxiousness to get argumentative. Besides, I'm a baseball, soccer and cycling mom, myself. Laters, Ms. Shea, I know I'll talk to you again. Besides, I'm a ranting rock-n-roller tonight, if 'ya still feel like talking. Let's just play nice, okay Madam? jean NP: Ry Cooder's, My Name Is Buddy, and to me he plays the best guitar in the whole wide world. PS: Speaking about guitar playing, Warren Zevon played a bad-ass guitar himself and those guitar sounds were the best I ever heard live and that's why I would have followed him all over the world, had he lived. Oh, and I looove Van Morrison's guitar and Neil Young's and Joni Mitchell's and Rickie Lee Jones' along with Tom Waits' style and Lou Reed's, and Keith Richard's and so many more Artists of Truth and Beauty. :) Debra Shea wrote: --- jeannie wrote: > It's a dirty blow to the African-American > population What? What does one guy's wicked behavior have to do with millions of other people? > who have had more than enough racism to deal with > for so long. Yes. It shows up sometimes in the oddest ways. > It's a black and scarlett mark on the > sport of baseball. Vick is the quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, a football team. No need to drag baseball into it. > If they don't fire that baseball player's > cocky ass, I fear baseball's demise coming on > and soccer could take over, which could be a > better thing. I wouldn't mind soccer (grace and finesse) replacing American football (brute force -- from my point of view). Baseball's my game. Last report I heard Vick's still got his job, which is hard to believe considering the gruesome and illegal activities he organized. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:22:19 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Shine sampler Monika, I just extracted the little song samples from the Amanda Ghost interview with Joni. They are varying lengths from a couple of seconds to just over 2 minutes. If you're having trouble downloading it, I can e-mail them one at a time to you if you like. Mark. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:15:10 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: countdown to S H I N E NJC Bob Muller wrote: In either case, I would pay a HUGE sum of dough for a Joni Bobble-head statue. Bob Or how about a Joni PEZ dispenser? You know there is an Elvis set of three dispensers (a military Elvis, young Elvis, and older Elvis) that have been released in the last month or so; in a round tin with a 3 song CD sampler included. PEZ said they would never make dispensers of humans. but they changed their minds recently and released the Orange County Choppers PEZ set, and now the Elvis PEZ set....;-) Best regards, Gary Z. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:22:42 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: guitars, vobaculary and grammar (njc) ;) Please forgive my grammatical errors and unforgivable vocabulary and spelling mistakes and this snap-decision impatience I have to rush off my replies. I need to find another method for proof-reading and editing before I hit send. It's embarrassing! Any suggestions? jean jeannie wrote: Hello Deborah! Yes, it is a blow, IMHO. I'm real and I don't like racism but it's all over, like it or not. As the tensions of these present days get tighter, it seems like I hear more intolerance being spewed out of people's mouths like vomit and the innocents are always the scapegoats. That's why I stay determined to stand up for my convictions as long as I hurt no one intentionally. That is why enlightening and education is of upmost importance to me and obviously to most here on the JMDL. I don't sit around glued to the tubes or wires feigning that everything is fine and dandy, including myself. We're in a constant struggle for higher ground, if one chooses the right paths. You don't think the Germans still don't feel Hitler's sting even though his horrible war crimes were commited going on 70 years already and he wasn't even a German? And yet he was a Christian when he hated all Jews, so he had to have hated Jesus, too. Hypocrisy, too, kills me. I feel everybody's sting and it hurts, so be cool, fool, with me. I'll "drag" or bring baseball into this, Deborah, if I choose so, because with all of this steroid abuse, the lives of these baseball players is in peril. So, I'm glad you brought it up, just to be able to say I care for their lives, too. And if that dude, Vick, has his job, I shall not feel fine with that and I'm glad all this happened. Until he doesn't start sanctifying all life, I know what his soul is all about and it's barbaric. And about your opinions, I accept them, without much fuss or anxiousness to get argumentative. Besides, I'm a baseball, soccer and cycling mom, myself. Laters, Ms. Shea, I know I'll talk to you again. Besides, I'm a ranting rock-n-roller tonight, if 'ya still feel like talking. Let's just play nice, okay Madam? jean NP: Ry Cooder's, My Name Is Buddy, and to me he plays the best guitar in the whole wide world. PS: Speaking about guitar playing, Warren Zevon played a bad-ass guitar himself and those guitar sounds were the best I ever heard live and that's why I would have followed him all over the world, had he lived. Oh, and I looove Van Morrison's guitar and Neil Young's and Joni Mitchell's and Rickie Lee Jones' along with Tom Waits' style and Lou Reed's, and Keith Richard's and so many more Artists of Truth and Beauty. :) Debra Shea wrote: - --- jeannie wrote: > It's a dirty blow to the African-American > population What? What does one guy's wicked behavior have to do with millions of other people? > who have had more than enough racism to deal with > for so long. Yes. It shows up sometimes in the oddest ways. > It's a black and scarlett mark on the > sport of baseball. Vick is the quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, a football team. No need to drag baseball into it. > If they don't fire that baseball player's > cocky ass, I fear baseball's demise coming on > and soccer could take over, which could be a > better thing. I wouldn't mind soccer (grace and finesse) replacing American football (brute force -- from my point of view). Baseball's my game. Last report I heard Vick's still got his job, which is hard to believe considering the gruesome and illegal activities he organized. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. - --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:28:41 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Eurofest 2008 Yes, Dave I want to be there! Thanks for asking.... I suffer from formula-phobia - knowing that I need to figure out if I still have a Pay-Pal account or if I should open a new one is enough to make me postpone signing up for days. For some reason, these things put me off in a way that is completely out of proportion. But I do want to go, and I want to camp put on the land. Lucy, I will read your email again and get it sorted. Will do.... Bene On 7/31/07, Dave Blackburn wrote: > What? No Dr. Bene or Marion nipping over the North Sea to join us in England > next year? It will be great to meet Oddmund, Catherine and the rest. > > So, Lucy, is there some kind of performance area at Holycombe with P.A or > are we envisioning bongos in the dirt around the oak tree? > > > > thanks, > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 91 - Can't Get it at Starbucks! Howdy Ho, Joni fans. Hard to believe that the summer is starting to wind down, and that it's time to start talking about 'back to school' and such. And of course, here in America, all the stores will soon be aglow with Christmas displays. But enough of that...let's talk about something that's worthy of REAL celebration - yet another release in the never-ending series of Joni Mitchell Cover compilations. And August brings us to #91 as we inch our way to the Joni Cover Centennial. And as is the case with most of these, I've gone around the globe and back to bring it to you. As is usually the case, I didn't do it by myself. I gotta thank the JMDLer's who chipped in with this one, so a tip and a shake of the cap to Michael Paz and Mark-Leon Thorne for their help. So, let's get into it, shall we? Go get it here: http://download.yousendit.com/990D29456428EE17 And listen along while I jabber my spot-on evaluations and opinions about these artists & songs: 1. Michelle Branch - River: Michelle made an appearance on "Good Morning America" in December 2005 and performed Joni's happy holiday classic. Michelle is a semi-famous solo artist and also is half of The Wreckers, a country duo. Her take on River is quite nice and features some nice instrumentation too. 2. BeTI - Big Yellow Taxi: BeTI is short for "Beyond The Influences". This cover lifts it's arrangement from Janet Jackson's "Got 'til it's Gone" (even including the phrase at times) and as such is sort of a slow-soul-jam. While I don't necessarily dislike it, and I'm always happy to hear a BYT cover that doesn't just try and imitate the Crows' cover, this one goes on too long so a lot of makes it interesting to start with wears thin. 3. Rose Bygrave - Woodstock: Australia makes another fine contribution to the collection. The opening slide guitar sets the scene perfectly, and the pacing and harmonies are divine. She also inserts a unique bridge in the center. 4. Norbert Gottschalk - Both Sides Now: The first of a couple of German entries in this edition, Norbert's guitar playing is very nice and so is his voice, shining with a warmth that is highlighted by his nimble playing. 5. Susan Cowsill - A Case Of You: A JMDL exclusive! Susan has been a part of the music scene for a long time, first as part of The Cowsills and now a singer-songwriter on her own. I love the heartfelt quality of her voice, a perfect fit for this song. Also featured is some beautiful acoustic guitar to match. Susan also contributed "Chelsea Morning" and "The Last Time I Saw Richard" to the 2-CD Pazfest collection. 6. Satin Sheets - Big Yellow Taxi: Semi-Cheesy 70's instrumental arrangement, sounds like the MOA version played at 78 or maybe background music for a magician or a dog act - still, there's some nice horn work and in the right setting I suppose you could get into some serious twisting by the pool with it. 7. Brenda Morie - Twisted: Like her website says, it's a blending of smoky jazz vocals and rich flute. I've always been a flute fan, so I can dig this one as we don't get a lot of flute here in Jonicoverville. 8. Poon Sow Keng - Both Sides Now: Chinese-language version of BSN. To my ears a pretty and tender version of the song. 9. Denise Kaufmann - Edith And The Kingpin: Denise recorded this track in 1976, and that's pretty noteworthy as HOSL had not been out long at that time. She obviously had a better jump on lots of the press that had dismissed the album. Denise stays pretty true to the original arrangement but puts several personal twists and spins on some of the melodic lines. Me likey. 10. Denise Kaufmann - The Last I Saw Richard: Like her or not, you have to give Ms. Kaufmann credit for digging deep into Joni's catalogue for covers. Denise substitutes James Taylor-like guitar for piano and once again sticks close to Joni's arrangement, offering some small deviations to help put her own stamp on it. 11. No Fixed Abode - Big Yellow Taxi: This folk duo from England offers up a spirited version of BYT. Some nice original vocal touches, a solid effort throughout. 12. Steven Curtis Chapman - The Circle Game: From his 2005 CD "Musical Blessings", and a nice fresh arrangement that sets SCC up to navigate the melody in a very pleasant fashion. If I remember correctly, SCC is mostly a Christian-music artist, and has adopted Chinese children. He pays tribute to that union by including a Chinese children's choir here and including part of the chorus in Chinese and part in English. I find it very moving and I like this track a lot. He also release a video to promote the track. 13. b-flower - Both Sides Now: Japanese pop-folk with Byrds-like jangly guitars. I like the peppy arrangement but not so much for the vocal. Although I suppose the liteness and airiness of it complements the musical setting. 14. Rafael Jung Trio with Britta Rex - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines: Germany sends this one to us, a solid jazz workout with some great solos from all concerned. Although I hear drums, guitar, bass, organ - not sure how many other members in the 'trio', but that's a minor point as this track is such a strong one. Britta's vocals complement the band and she navigates the changes with ease and even throws in some blue-scatting. 15. Ralph Usdan - Carey: Hmmm...this one hits the ear pretty hard. Ralph's Johnny Cash-wannabe voice is more basso profundo which is odd enough when you're used to hearing Joni's soaring soprano. He alters the lyrics in order to switch gender..."Carey, I'll whip out my cane"??? Reminds me of Blazing Saddles. Will probably not be your favorite track on this one. 16. Linda Wilmot - Big Yellow Taxi: Basic GwG, nothing to get overly excited about. Both girl and guitar are pretty dull. Better than Track 20 at least. 17. Plastik - A Case Of You: Also from England, this website-download-only track came out in 2006. Plastik typically rocks pretty hard so this is a bit of a different sound for them. I don't particularly care for the male vocalist, a bit too much warble and emoting for my tastes. I do like the backing musicians and arrangement however. 18. Julian Dawson - The Gallery: Another English entry, Julian is based in Somerset and is a solo artist as well as a member of the group Plainsong. This Graham Nash-like take on The Gallery (a very underdone song in the Joni canon) was part of his latest CD which was a tribute to women songwriters titled "Nothing Like A Dame". 19. Husker Du - "You're So Square, Baby I Don't Care": I'm happy to include this one, never released by the 80's SST power trio but included on a live bootleg LP. Puts their heavy, dark and fast stylings on display, and stretches out to 4-minutes what most folks do in two. Bob Mould went on to a memorable career, both solo and as the leader of Sugar Blue. 20. David Devaney, Jr. - Big Yellow Taxi: Bad karaoke. In a perfect world, this track would not exist. Hate to end such a fine volume on such a crappy note - but hey, if I'd have kicked #91 off with this track you might not have kept listening. Anyway, hope you found a couple here that you like - as always thanks for reading, thanks for listening, and thanks as always to Joni for writing such an incredible catalogue of songs that continue to inspire musicians from all corners of the world. Bob - --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 02:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: countdown to S H I N E NJC That would be just as kiitschy-cool, Gary - but don't you think that Joni would have it engineered to dispense smokes instead of Pez? Bob NP: Alana Davis, "Round and Around" - --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 05:58:29 -0400 From: Gary Z Subject: Re: countdown to S H I N E NJC Maybe she'd endorse tobacco flavored PEZ candy!!! :-) (Or at least nicorette!) Bob Muller wrote: > > > That would be just as kiitschy-cool, Gary - but don't you think that > Joni would have it engineered to dispense smokes instead of Pez? > > Bob > > NP: Alana Davis, "Round and Around" > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) As the owner of a pet pitbull, and as much as I detest the sadism and cruelty of dogfighting, last time I checked people were still innocent until proven guilty in this country. Yeah, I think he's guilty too, but don't want to assume 100% til he's had his day in court. Em ps: why couldn't it be some totally boring QB? Vick was my fave to watch. (f_cker) - --- Victor Johnson wrote: > On Jul 31, 2007, at 10:50 PM, Debra Shea wrote: > > > > > Last report I heard Vick's still got his job, which is > > hard to believe considering the gruesome and illegal > > activities he organized. > > > > > Actually for all practical purposes, Vick does not have his job. > Joey Harrington is now the Falcons starting quarterback with Redman > and Shockley competing for the backup spot. Vick has been banned > from training camp by the NFL, who are still reviewing the indictment > > and entire case and will probably make a decision soon as to what > action they will take. He is under contract to the Falcons- a year > or so ago he signed a $130 million contract for something like 10 > years - so it is not a viable option to them to just cut him though > in retrospect, it was probably not a wise move for Arthur Blank. > They are waiting to see how this unfolds. If Michael Vick is > actually convicted with a felony, he may be in violation of his > contract which would give the Falcons a way out without taking such a > > big hit. It would also prohibit him from ever playing in the NFL > again...it is not looking good for Michael Vick, who still maintains > > his innocence. > > And since he is losing all his endorsements - Nike, Reebok, Rawlings, > > etc...he is losing millions of dollars already so he is losing quite > > a bit. > > Victor, JMDL correspondent in Atlanta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 04:38:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and guitars (njc) ;) I also truly hope the racial aspect of this doesn't blow up. At this point I very much support Barack Obama, and I think racial problems at this stage could spoil things as far as his possible forward progress. Em - --- jeannie wrote: > Hello Deborah! > > Yes, it is a blow, IMHO. I'm real and I don't like racism but it's > all over, > like it or not. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 04:40:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: countdown to S H I N E NJC or a nicotine/cig flavored mouthwash called "Ashtray". :P Em - --- Gary Z wrote: > Maybe she'd endorse tobacco flavored PEZ candy!!! :-) (Or at least > nicorette!) > > Bob Muller wrote: > > > > > > > That would be just as kiitschy-cool, Gary - but don't you think > that > > Joni would have it engineered to dispense smokes instead of Pez? > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Alana Davis, "Round and Around" > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Got a little couch potato? > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:48:46 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: cockfighting & dog fighting laws (njc) I wish I could lose my job by being paid my full salary not to work! Smartass Jerry > Actually for all practical purposes, Vick does not have his job. > Joey Harrington is now the Falcons starting quarterback with Redman > and Shockley competing for the backup spot. Vick has been banned > from training camp by the NFL, who are still reviewing the indictment > and entire case and will probably make a decision soon as to what > action they will take. He is under contract to the Falcons- a year > or so ago he signed a $130 million contract for something like 10 > years - so it is not a viable option to them to just cut him though > in retrospect, it was probably not a wise move for Arthur Blank. > They are waiting to see how this unfolds. If Michael Vick is > actually convicted with a felony, he may be in violation of his > contract which would give the Falcons a way out without taking such a > big hit. It would also prohibit him from ever playing in the NFL > again...it is not looking good for Michael Vick, who still maintains > his innocence. > > And since he is losing all his endorsements - Nike, Reebok, Rawlings, > etc...he is losing millions of dollars already so he is losing quite > a bit. > > Victor, JMDL correspondent in Atlanta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 05:13:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Shine stuff its great watching you all be so excited about Joni's upcoming new baby. This is her 1st really new musical recorded work she's made since I've been on the list, and its nice to see it. I have high hopes for it! Em ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 13:25:55 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: countdown to S H I N E NJC & Bobble-heads Bobby Loo Who (a.k.a. Hillbilly Bob....lol!) wrote: "In either case, I would pay a HUGE sum of dough for a Joni Bobble-head statue." Are you serious, Bob? Maybe I can help, because I have got a thing that's unique and new....at my son's wedding rehearsal dinner, they gave out gifts to the bridal party. The groomsmen were all given personalized bobble-heads. They were caricatures, and were the hit of the party! My son Michael's was him as a Hartford Whaler (both of my boys played hockey all throughout their circle game -- TIC: Then the child moved ten times round the seasons, skated over ten clear frozen streams....). I wondered why Chris had called asking for Michael's h.s. jersey number (number 9, number 9, number 9 -- how could you forget that?). The heads looked like their real heads....I guess the bobble-head maker asked for pictures of each groomsman, and he designed and re-designed them until they came out really looking like the person, caricaturized. Michael was funny when he held up his and exclaimed: "Man, I am UGLY!" I heard that they *did* cost "a HUGE sum of dough", though. When Chris gets back from his honeymoon (a man shall leave his mother) with another girl (for he has got, another girl, another girl who will love him to the end, through thick and thin she will always be his friend, mama hopes) I will ask him where he got them. Chelsea Morning! Patti P. P.S. My dad used to call GWB "Bobble-head Bush". (He was too kind.) _________________________________________________________________ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:06:04 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: countdown to S H I N E NJC & Bobble-heads Rarely. And there are places to come from and places you can go to get custom bobble-heads, as you know. Here's one: http://www.bobblefactory.com/ Gawlee! Well, I'll be hornswaggled. They don't sell nuthin' like that at ol' lukey's gen'ral store. Bobble-head Hillbilly Bob NP: Elvis C, "Watching The Detectives" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:16:07 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Court and Spark My sweet bird wrote: > I am rambling .. obvioulsy I have alot of pent up joni in me.. : peace and > love and light to you all.. kevin (the jersey one) lol > Hi Love, Great to read your post! CAS was one of my first Joni albums too, given to me by a friend. I see it sort of as the cover of the book with all the other albums of her songs being the pages. It has a strong radio connection so it can draw people. Recently I heard CAS Help Me overhead twice in Lowes. I go straight to the kitchen section, look for a cat, and start dancing. Keep venting Joni here! Love, Laura ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:50:09 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Shine sampler Oh no, no problem downloading it! It's all saved away in my folder on the computer. It took less time than I thought (only a little bit over 2 hours with being on dial-up and all). It's great to get this sneak preview! Thanks for posting the link! I must say, though I'm a guitar girl through and through (only play a little piano), I love hearing all the piano on the tracks! The piano is one of the most beautiful sounding instruments. I'd say even moreso than guitar (though as I said, I love guitars!). And of course a melancholic song played on piano will get you like no other. So far, I think I like the songs "If" and "Shine" the best. Of course that's most likely due to the fact that these are the longest snippets! All in all, we're waiting for a treat it seems. - -Monika, just back from dropping off her brother and sister to the airport for their Seattle trip...awfully quite in the house now... P.S. Here'a random Joni comment said by my brother the other day. We were talking about them going away to Seattle for a week and he said with a mischevious smile, "you're going to miss me. I know it. You're going to miss all my Neil and Joni bashing. Just admit it." Of course I won't miss that! ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 10:58:00 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: guitars, vobaculary and grammar (njc) ;) In a message dated 8/1/2007 5:24:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dreamin1957jeannie@yahoo.com writes: You don't think the Germans still don't feel Hitler's sting even though his horrible war crimes were commited going on 70 years already and he wasn't even a German? And yet he was a Christian when he hated all Jews, so he had to have hated Jesus, too. Hypocrisy, too, kills me. - ------------------------------------------------------ Ok I realizing I'm going sort off topic here highlighting just a point you mentioned but I find Hitler/Nazis/WW II fascinating. As far as hypocrisy goes, you're right. Hitler was one of the biggest hypocrites to have ever lived. He hated Jews even though he had Jewish blood in his family. He thought up his Master race as "German, not Jewish of course, blonde, etc etc" even though he was hardly any of the things he thought were superior. It is just fascinating to me how such men could grow to be so powerful with so much hate in their hearts. I realize that fear is the greatest motivator but fear can only be attributed so far to this. I remember reading before how nearly every German household had a copy of Mein Kampf (before the reign of Hitler) yet hardly anyone read it. Had anyone read it, they may have prevented themselves a lot of trouble and tragedy to see the danger Adolf Hitler represented as it truly was before fear set in. Mein Kampf is a good read if you haven't read it. Obviously not a good read in that its entertaining like a normal book or in that you "get" something out of it but more because its asbolutely mind boggling to see how twisted Hitler really is. Crazy. - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:00:32 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re:NJC NJC NJC Shine sampler In a message dated 8/1/2007 10:52:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Motitan@aol.com writes: Monika, just back from dropping off her brother and sister to the airport for their Seattle trip...awfully quite in the house now - --------------------------- I meant **awfully QUIET.** I absolutely hate it if I make a typo and it goes almost unnoticed by me. I can't stand typos. 'Tis a pet peeve of mine. - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP But, isn't Joni referring to MichelAngelo Buonarroti who painted the Sistine Chapel in the early 16th century, and who would go into these creative frenzies, once he started a project, and not MichelAngelo Antonioni, the film director who just recently died? If it is the latter MichelAngelo, well, I've had he wrong picture all along. Thanks! jean PS: I wish I could have seen Michelangelo the painter in full speed action. Unbelievably breathtaking beauty! Randy Remote 2 magnificent directors died yesterday... Ahughes.net> wrote: From: "anon anon" ntonioni was my favorite > director... I just love "L'avventura","L'eclisse", and "blow up"... how > strange that they should both die on the same day... I'm happy that they > both lived long lives... And both are contained in Joni songs...sort of.... "Bergman's nordic blues" "these are the clouds of Michelangelo" - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:11:34 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP Sure...I assumed that's why Michael added the "sort of" in his note. Bob NP: The Arcade Fire, "Intervention" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Yes, racism is all over, although you seem to have missed my point, which is that instantly tying one person's actions to a huge group just because of their skin color, as you did, IS racism. I wasn't aiming to pick on you, but your comment showed how pervasive racism is in the US, and perhaps everywhere. The same for sexism. I sometimes wonder if a person can live in the US and not be racist to some extent, in same way that a person living here is automatically a capitalist. Anyway, until your comment I'd seen Vick as an individual, and didn't see what he did as reflecting on anyone else. > Laters, Ms. Shea, I know I'll talk to you again. Probably not much. Ranting doesn't usually lead to conversation. It's more of a monologue, which can be interesting, or not. > Besides, I'm a ranting rock-n-roller tonight, Carry on, as you wish. > if 'ya > still feel like talking. > Let's just play nice, okay Madam? Of course. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 20:09:00 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Ingmar Bergman, NJC Hi all, as you can imagine the Swedish media have reported on Ingmar Bergman's death extensively. Papers, radio, tv - they write, they rerun interviews and films and everybody is an expert on Bergmans art as well as his person. Michelangelos passing was mentioned but is not nearly as "hot news" as Bergman. While I do appreciate Bergman's art to a certain extend - his films are all so middle-class - I was never that interested in his personal life. I knew he had been in several relationships with the actresses he engaged but it wasn't until now that I realized he had had ongoing relationships with several women at the same time and has nine children. (There were charts of his relationships and resulting offsprings in the papers!) Now, to me, this somehow puts his greatness in perspective. Although he was a very talented man, he was just that - a man. Judging from the reverence shown him now you'd think he was a god. Marion, probably sticking her neck out ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 11:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Michelangelo A, Michelangelo B, Hi Bob! I figured when Michael wrote, "well, sort of," he was referring to Michelangelo B. and not Michelangelo A., but it could be a tricky one, Bob! I wanted to make sure for myself and for those who don't fully know Joni's all of lyrics. This is the only list I've seen where *"it's too cosmic to be cryptic and too cryptic to be cosmic," puzzles we play with. It keeps us alert. I like that. I hope all who read here don't shy away from expressing themselves or asking questions. I got that *quote from one of the reviews written behind one of spacey Kinky Friedman's well-written mystery novels, 'The Love Song Of J.Edgar Hoover." ..and it truly should be, 'The Hypocritical Hate Song Of J. Edgar Hoover'.. So, you see, it's the same concept, if you know what I mean with all of these tongue in cheek puzzle pieces! Jeannie NP: Tom Waits: ~Beautiful Maladies~ :~} Truly some hard core lyrics and melodies. Waits is some sort of creative genius like Michelangelo B. I need to see a Michelangelo A. film. May he sleep in peace. Thanks, Bob, for everything you do to help me and everybody here! j Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Sure...I assumed that's why Michael added the "sort of" in his note. Bob NP: The Arcade Fire, "Intervention" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Games. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:27:27 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >From: "Randy Remote" >Reply-To: "Randy Remote" >To: "anon anon" , >Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:07:51 -0700 >And both are contained in Joni songs...sort of.... >"Bergman's nordic blues" >"these are the clouds of Michelangelo" there was an Antonioni movie called "beyond the clouds", which I haven't seen, but it came out about 5 years after the Joni lyrics... _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 19:58:00 +0100 From: clive sax Subject: Hammerstein Ballroom tribute concert Hi all, Long time no post. I wanted to put a request out for a favour. Does anyone have a copy (video or DVD) of the 2000 Joni tribute concert with KD lang, Cyndi Lauper and James Taylor et al at the Hammerstein ballroom that they would be happy to copy for me. If so contacting me off list would be fine and I would be eternally grateful. Many thanks Clive _________________________________________________________________ 100s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:06:17 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws and guitars (njc) ;) - --- Debra Shea wrote: > --- jeannie wrote: > > > Hello Deborah! > > > > Yes, it is a blow, IMHO. I'm real and I don't > like > > racism but it's all over, > > like it or not. > > Yes, racism is all over, although you seem to have > missed my point, which is that instantly tying one > person's actions to a huge group just because of > their > skin color, as you did, IS racism. Dear Debra, I'm not missing your point. Look, I get racism when they think we're Arab, Jew and Mexican. Since my family is in the restaurant business we come across many, many folks, except on Sunday when we're closed. If they think we're Italian, we're cool, because we have Italian restaurants or whatever. Or when they think we're Greek because there' a couple of Delis, it's cool too! It's like Ry Cooder's recent song says: ~If you're black, get back If you're brown, turn around If you're red, you're dead If you're white, you're right!~RC~ I know what you mean. That's just the way it is. They still call African Americans here, "Niggers" behind their breath. It's bad and it's out there. I challenge any provocation geared towards racism and hypocrisy, Debra, keeping myself in check, first and foremost. I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. I wasn't aiming > to > pick on you, but your comment showed how pervasive > racism is in the US, and perhaps everywhere. The > same > for sexism. I sometimes wonder if a person can live > in > the US and not be racist to some extent, in same way > that a person living here is automatically a > capitalist. > > Anyway, until your comment I'd seen Vick as an > individual, and didn't see what he did as reflecting > on anyone else. Believe me, it is, Debra! Please! You know, I live in Texas, where the Lone Ranger/Dubya mentality proliferates. I mean, Don Imus lives around the upper corner. Barbara Bush to my left said something nasty, as did Kinky Friedman, to my right, about the Katrina evacuees and that's when he lost my vote when he was running for Governor. He said the Louisiana evacuees are thugs and crack-heads, or something along those lines. My youngest brother has a Texas Hill Country Deli Bar and Grill and the area is Bulverde, TX, and the intolerance is unbelievable. They're completely loyal to Bush. It's predominantly Baptist and White folk and they have not let their racism go. I worked the place for no more than one hour and I had to leave. So, with this pit-bull issue, yes, the Black community gets the shit blame. I wish I could tape this coming Saturday evening conversation at the joint as proof. And that's just a tiny ice cube from this gargantuan iceberg of Texas racism, but it's kept silent. They only open up to us because they feel they can be themselves because our businesses are of an ambiance which is comfortable and they feel at home. That's why I don't go to that certain restaurant because they are SO SET in their intolerant views and their little kids are the SAME!! > > Laters, Ms. Shea, I know I'll talk to you again. > > Probably not much. That may be a good thing or who knows, until we try. I'm game! Ranting doesn't usually lead to > conversation. It's more of a monologue, which can be > interesting, or not. It leads to much conversation with me, 'ya see? > > > Besides, I'm a ranting rock-n-roller tonight, > > Carry on, as you wish. Thanks, Debra! > > > if 'ya > > still feel like talking. > > Let's just play nice, okay Madam? > > Of course. > > Debra Shea > Don't Let Us Get Sick ~Warren Zevon~ Don't let us get sick Don't let us get old Don't let us get stupid, alright? Just let us be brave And let us be nice And just let us be together tonight The moon has a face And it smiles on the lake And it causes the ripples in time I'm lucky to be here With someone Who maketh my spirit to ~Shine~ Jeannie NP: Don't Let Us Get Sick ~WZ~ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP whoa! So, Joni may have meant Michelangelo A. So, so interesting. It could be interpreted as both MA and MB. Thanks for the insight, Michael! jeannie anon anon wrote: >From: "Randy Remote" >Reply-To: "Randy Remote" >To: "anon anon" , >Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:07:51 -0700 >And both are contained in Joni songs...sort of.... >"Bergman's nordic blues" >"these are the clouds of Michelangelo" there was an Antonioni movie called "beyond the clouds", which I haven't seen, but it came out about 5 years after the Joni lyrics... _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com - --------------------------------- Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:32:17 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >From: jeannie >Reply-To: jeannie >To: anon anon , Joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP >Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:19:27 -0700 (PDT) > >whoa! So, Joni may have meant Michelangelo A. > > So, so interesting. It could be interpreted as both MA and MB. > > Thanks for the insight, Michael! > > jeannie > > I don't see how that could be. Joni's lyrics was written in 1977. the M.A. movie was released in 1982... _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:33:45 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: "Cagney and lacey" I bought the Season One DVD recently, and I have to say, that this was an excellent tv show... Even now, 25 years later, it's difficult to find a tv program as high quality as C&L was... _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:39:07 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Hammerstein Ballroom tribute concert I need a copy, too, please. Cyndi Lauper blew me away with, 'Carey.' Joni looked so beautiful! I cried when I saw her with her daughter and her pal. Roseanne Arquette has Joni's look. Only, Joni's prettier. They could come off as sisters. They're both so beautiful in a category of their own. The show was spectacular. I was writing on some other musician's website as the show was on and that's when alot of the other man's fans were so kind to me because they knew how much Joni meant to me and they were watching the show along with me and they shared in my happiness. Joni seemed shy like she did at those people's parties. Jeannie clive sax wrote: Hi all, Long time no post. I wanted to put a request out for a favour. Does anyone have a copy (video or DVD) of the 2000 Joni tribute concert with KD lang, Cyndi Lauper and James Taylor et al at the Hammerstein ballroom that they would be happy to copy for me. If so contacting me off list would be fine and I would be eternally grateful. Many thanks Clive _________________________________________________________________ 100s of Music vouchers to be won with MSN Music https://www.musicmashup.co.uk/index.html - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #296 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------