From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #294 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Tuesday, July 31 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 294 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] NJC Re: Joni in The London LIte [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Eurofest 2008 [Dave Blackburn ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) [BlueForTheRoses@aol.com] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) [Michael Paz ] Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP ["anon anon" ] Anyone have the Amanda Ghost/Joni interview? [M C ] The Grinch Who Couldn't Steal Joni ["Patti Parlette" ] RE: NJC Re: The Grinch Who Couldn't Steal Joni ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) [Smurf ] Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) ["Suze Cameron" ] [RE]countdown to S H I N E ["Suze Cameron" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #293 ["=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Jer=F3nimo?=" ] My Bergman Blues [jeannie ] Court and Spark ["Gerald A. Notaro" ] RE: Shine sampler [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Court and Spark [Bob Muller ] PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY DESTROYED BY FLOOD, njc ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #290 A Case of You ["Sherelle Smith" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:12:23 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) Smurf, I guess this means the cockfighting for Jonifest is out. Bob NP: Joni, "The Circle Game" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:20:29 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: Joni in The London LIte Jamie, thanks for the article. And will someone please help me to understand this: "Of course, Starbucks is regarded unfavourably by many people for wiping out smaller coffee shops" Excuse me for thinking, but wasn't it the CONSUMER that caused this to happen? If everyone continued to patronize their neighborhood shop, Starbucks would be the one hurting, right? Why are they demonized for merely existing? They're certainly not coming in and price-gouging like Wal-Mart does. That would be like "Shine" selling a zillion copies, and Joni getting criticized for stealing listeners away from top 40 radio. Bob NP: Ben Folds Five, "Sports & Wine" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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So, Lucy, is there some kind of performance area at Holycombe with P.A or are we envisioning bongos in the dirt around the oak tree? thanks, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:08:11 EDT From: BlueForTheRoses@aol.com Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) In a message dated 7/31/2007 8:14:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: Smurf, I guess this means the cockfighting for Jonifest is out. Bob I guess that is supposed to be funny....however it really isn't. Rick ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:31:35 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:08 AM, BlueForTheRoses@aol.com wrote: > > > I guess that is supposed to be funny....however it really isn't. > Rick I thought it was hilarious! Having a sense of humour is a good thing. Laughter makes you live longer. Victor ps. The new Simpsons movie is awesome! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:50:34 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: countdown to S H I N E Suze wrote: >For the record, place me in the catagory of 'grateful regardless of who >Joni releases with' as far as the Starbucks and Hear music is concerned. >I am thrilled that we again have new material to listen to, and will be >counting down the days until September 25th. good idea Suze. . Let's have a count down! (goodbye july, so sad to see you go. . ) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ ~ ~ ~~ ~ (back in 19) 57 days! keep 'em counting S H I N E ON! \ lOve Marianne _________________________________________________________________ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:16:52 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) Swordfighting as well. Soory Smurph! PAZ Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band cell-504-382-0343 http://www.preservationhall.com On Jul 31, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: Smurf, I guess this means the cockfighting for Jonifest is out. Bob NP: Joni, "The Circle Game" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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I want to write her a love letter. I want to renew her, again and again. With that picture, my Joni heart grew three sizes this day! * Third, I didn't like the way the writer was "talking about my generation": "I could just see the lentil-huggers' beards spontaneously combust. "Sell-out!" they cried, brushing the dried tofu from their hemp sweaters. Who had attracted the ire of the pensionable old hippies? Joni Mitchell, wonky-faced folk pin-up of all slightly myopic chaps of a certain vintage...." Richard, what does "pensionable" mean? I don't know. Oh, maybe that they are ready to collect their pensions, I guess, eh? And "wonky-faced"? WTF is THAT? Myopic chaps? Well, I *never*! Then: "Judging by the criticism Mitchell has endured you'd have thought her previous labels, which include Warners and Geffen, employed only orphans and gave 90 per cent of their revenues to the Fluffy Kitten Benevolent Fund....." Now *that's* funny....LOL! "Perhaps if Mitchell had signed to Lockheed Records or another label funded by an arms company (there actually aren't any, so don't worry) her critics might have had a point....." Yeah, like if she signed with Halliburton or BushCheneyCo. That would be another story (TIC! "Love is a story told to a frie-end, it's secondhand......") and I would never buy it. But of course, that would never happen. No way, no how. Just my two cents. And now, thanks to Jamie for sharing this article and especially THAT PICTURE, I got a spark for something, some sweet inspiration*...I have got a thing that is unique and new.....hold on a minute....I think you might like it... Love, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:30:05 -0400 From: "anon anon" Subject: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP 2 magnificent directors died yesterday... Antonioni was my favorite director... I just love "L'avventura","L'eclisse", and "blow up"... how strange that they should both die on the same day... I'm happy that they both lived long lives... _________________________________________________________________ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:40:24 -0400 From: "Strodel, Joe" Subject: FW: Joni Tribute in Skaneateles, NY Bob, Thanks for the kind words. I totally agree with you on the years covered in the Joni tribute in Skaneateles. The level of the jazz players at this concert were such that they could have easily tackled songs from Hisssing on thru Taming the Tiger. I certainly was hoping for material that reprensented her whole catalogue, as it would be much more appropriate, considering it was a tribute concert, to saluter her entire 38 plus years of songs.Maria DeAngelis has a big following in this area in the jazz world. I asked her why not include any songs from Hejira, Hissing, Mingus, or TI and her answer was that she was inspired by these songs as a young women and wanted to present that phase of her career. So we should have billed the event as A Tribute to Joni Mitchell..... The Early Years. I have to say that hearing these musicians version of Rainy Night House and Down to You were highlight for me, and both songs brought the house down. They did Last Time I Saw Richard all jazzed up and that was another nighlight! Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:35:33 -0700 (PDT) From: M C Subject: Anyone have the Amanda Ghost/Joni interview? Hi all, Out of lurkdom for a moment here. I'm interested in obtaining the Amanda Ghost interview done with Joni on BBC Radio 2 last March. It's now gone from the BBC Radio 2 website. Does anyone have it in any format? In the meantime, because it has not appeared in the Joni library yet, I've gone on the perhaps incorrect assumption no one has it, so I've contacted the Amanda Ghost website. Here's the answer I got. And for now I'm still interested in obtaining the interview in any format. Many thanks. -mc ================================= hi there - as soon as amanda's website is ready we'll stream it as a podcast. my best, frank ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:40:45 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: The Grinch Who Couldn't Steal Joni Oh, the mean one, Mr. Grinch, sang: It's coming on Christmas, They're cutting down trees They're putting up reindeer, And singing songs of joy and peace Oh, I wish I had a polluted river, I could skate away on I'm so hard to handle, I'm selfish and I'm bad Now Starbucks has signed the best baby They EVER had Oh, I wish I had a polluted river, I could skate away on.... I wish I...... Hey! I know what trouble I'll brew! I'll criticize Starbucks, that's what I'll do Then all the fans down in Joni-ville will all cry BOO-HOO! "That's a noise," grinned the Grinch, "That I simply must hear!" So he paused. And the Grinch put a hand to his ear. And he did hear a sound rising over the snow (and the pinewood trees). It started in low. Then it started to grow... But the sound wasn't sad! Why, this sound sounded merry! It couldn't be so! But it WAS merry! VERY! "They've got a lot of soul" Thought the Grinch "They sing Merry Christmas Just like Nat King Coles!" He stared down at Joni-ville! The Grinch popped his eyes! Then he shook! What he saw was a shocking surprise! Every fan down in Joni-ville, the tall and the small, Was singing! Without any lattes at all! He HADN'T stopped Joni from coming! SHE CAME! Somehow or other, she came just the same! And the Grinch, with his grinch-feet ice-cold in the snow, Stood puzzling and puzzling: "How could it be so? It came without espresso! It came without price tags! It came without frappuccinos or Tazo tea bags!" And he puzzled three hours, `till his puzzler was sore. Then the Grinch thought of something he hadn't before! "Maybe Joni," he thought, "doesn't come from a store. "Maybe Joni...perhaps...means a little bit more!" And what happened then...? Well...in Joni-ville they say That the Grinch's small heart Grew three sizes that day! And the minute his heart didn't feel quite so tight, He whizzed with his load through the bright Chelsea morning light And he brought back the shiny toys! And the food for the banquet feast! And he... ...HE HIMSELF...! carved the roast apple in its jaw beast! THE END. You're so corporate square? Babies, I don't care! My only channelled aspiration is bringing back that girl we had before. Bring it on, Starbright Starbucks! You've got the Joni lovin' that I like, all right. Love, Patti P., with all glory and honor and praise to Dr. Suess and SIQUOMB P.S. I am not calling any one individual a grinch. Vraiment! I merely refer to the nebulous spirit that has attempted to undo all the Joni Joy that could be. C'est tout, j'avoue! _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:55:27 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: NJC Re: The Grinch Who Couldn't Steal Joni LOL - job well done, Patti. Makes me want to get in a BIG circle with all JMDLer's and start singing the "Yahoo-do-race" song. Bob NP: Arcade Fire, "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:14:05 +0100 From: Lucy Hone Subject: Re: Eurofest 2008 NJC Hey Dave The details of PA and things will be sorted out nearer the time. I think that between the England Festers, and people I know we should be able to get an array together. There is a room that we can sit on bean bags and watch the performances. If you go the site www.holycombe.com and look at the angel room it has a picture of it. It is not a huge space but large enough. But usually at Fests there is a song circle ;ate into the night and if the weather is good we can have these out around the fire pit. it will be great and I would like it to be a relaxed thing with people just enjoying the music. If anyone wants to elect to take on sorting out the PA and what is needed then please do. I am hoping to go to Holycombe in a week or so as Frank and I are off to the Bulldog Bash at Avon Park Raceway (look it up on the net) the weekend after next. It is a pretty full on Biker do, about as far away from Joni as you could ever expect me to be........ and we like to ride out on the Saturday, and Holycombe is about 15 miles from the Bash... I will take notes on availability of power and location of sockets... when we get there.. But do bring guitars. bongos, anything you like really... Oh where is my Kay Ashley Kazzoooo.. I have a Right Handed spanish guitar and a Fender steel strung acoustic, which are available to borrow. I can also provide a 1973 Fender Precision, left hand strung bass guitar if my daughter will lend it..I also have a left hand strung acoustic (I think) .. These belonged to my late, ex husband and it would be good if any lefties wanted to use them as he was (despite being an ex) a brilliant musician and I think he would like to have been part of this in some way. So those can be possibly be available to very careful users.. It is over a year away, yet I am getting both excited and worried!! oo errrrrrrrrr It is the most complicated thing I have ever arranged. Ah well... it shall come to pass... Bye for now Lucy Dave Blackburn wrote: > What? No Dr. Bene or Marion nipping over the North Sea to join us in > England next year? It will be great to meet Oddmund, Catherine and the > rest. > > So, Lucy, is there some kind of performance area at Holycombe with P.A > or are we envisioning bongos in the dirt around the oak tree? > > > thanks, > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:11:09 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: RE: NJC Re: The Grinch Who Couldn't Steal Joni >LOL - job well done, Patti. Makes me want to get in a BIG circle with all >JMDLer's and start singing the "Yahoo-do-race" song. > > Oh, you mean this one, Bobby Loo Who? "Welcome Christmas"? http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/patc/grinch/#songs (the song is on the left) Sweet! I can picture us all. Or how about singing like at the end of A Charlie Brown Christmas, with our mouths turned upward, catching snowflakes on our tongues, singing: "Hark, the herald ANGEL sings!" http://www.last.fm/music/Vince+Guaraldi+Trio/_/Hark,+the+Herald+Angels+Sing LOL...Nat King Cole is on the left on that screen! Like the guy at the gas pumps! (Miles and Ella are there, too). Love, Peppermint Patty, thinking that Christmas is coming 3 months early this year, September 25th _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:23:12 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Eurofest 2008 Dave, it breaks my heart that I cant make it but the time of the fest is very inconvenient for me. In Sweden the summer break will just have ended and I cannot ask for free time a week after the start of the semester. Believe me, I would have loved to meet some of the members of this community. Hoping for another chance, Marion _____ Fren: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@sbcglobal.net] Skickat: den 31 juli 2007 16:01 Till: joni@smoe.org; Lucy Hone; missblux@googlemail.com; marionleffler@telia.com Dmne: Eurofest 2008 What? No Dr. Bene or Marion nipping over the North Sea to join us in England next year? It will be great to meet Oddmund, Catherine and the rest. So, Lucy, is there some kind of performance area at Holycombe with P.A or are we envisioning bongos in the dirt around the oak tree? thanks, Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:33:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) Bob Muller wrote: << Smurf, I guess this means the cockfighting for Jonifest is out. >> Fine with me, Muller, because you know my 'lil red rooster was made for looove. --Smurf . - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:53:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) The elder Bob M. wrote: 'my 'lil red rooster was made for looove' As David Letterman would say 'Isn't that a Joni Mitchell song?' Suze n.p. St. Vincent 'Marry Me' - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get all the Hottest Artists on Your Cell Phone - Plus 10 Bonus Tones Today! Find Your New Ringtone at Lycos Mobile. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:09:00 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: A Case of You BB: Quelle formidable explication de texte! I enjoyed reading this rather scholarly interpretation. Put on your JMU academic regalia! This song....this woman.....all this talent in one human being......it just blows your (heart and) mind sometimes, doesn't it? So deep between the forceps and the stone. Love, PP I beg to differ with both points of view on the line "I could drink a case of you and still be on my feet". This is my signature line from my signature song from my favorite Joni album, so I have spent much time contemplating this wonderful metaphor. I see this as the height of passion, where no thought or substance is greater than her feelings for the object of her desire. She laughs off the strong intoxicants because her love and raw desire are much stronger, and she is able to persist in her passion, to still be on her feet. This is the essence of aggressive determined passion. The key to this interpretation is the lines, "I drew a map of Canada, Oh, Canada, And your face sketched on it twice." In that moment of loneliness she calls out to her innermost roots, Oh, Canada, in an epiphany of longing and sorrow for the way things were and the way they might have been. In the center of that passionate outburst for home and sanctuary, your (his) face was sketched on it twice. In the vortex of the duality of loss and passion, of home and loneliness, she recites the litaney, "You are in my blood like holy wine Oh, and you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet Oh I could drink a case of you I could drink a case of you, darling And I would still be on my feet Oh, I'd still be on my feet." This is the divine passion, beyond the mundane, beyond ideomatic logic, pure Joni. Then she turns to the threnody, [ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Greek thrDnE idia, from thrDnos bwailingb + E idD bsong.b] "Oh, I am a lonely painter I live in a box of paints. I'm frightened by the devil And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't afraid." The passion and outpouring has passed and deep introspection has set in. Joni could have ended the song there, but she divines this coda, a visit from the saintly Mother, "I met a woman, she had a mouth like yours". The Mother causes passion to well up again, but this time around she says, "You're my holy wine", moving form the metaphor to the fact. Bonneville Bruce _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:27:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: [RE]countdown to S H I N E Countdown.... 57 days! 57 things to do each day while waiting for SHINE August 1st - act out the real meaning of hump day August 2nd - find nearest Starbucks August 3rd - if overseas, phone a friend nearest a Starbucks August 4th - practice ordering your double mocha blah blah August 5th - sort sock drawer or go to church, you decide August 6th - listen again to SHINE sampler - especially Gratitude August 7th - You Tube search for song lyrics August 8th - 8/8 think of something great (Happy Birthday Amy) August 9th - use beano if cooking Mexican cuisine August 10th - write a letter of Gratitude to Ms. Mitchell for recording August 11th - bake cookies and send them to Mrs. Cameron August 12th - create a drum solo for Gratitude August 13th - watch for Letterman's top 10 list and steal ideas August 14th - sculpt joni 'bobble head' for mass consuption at Starbucks August 15th - reread article where joni is retiring from the music business August 16th - learn the steps to Fiddle and Drum August 17th - write lyrics for Gratitude August 18th - scour digest daily for references to Shine August 19th - decide if 'reuben' tipping is really a sport August 20th - prearrange your funeral, cuz you thought it would come before new Joni August 21st - search "Complete Poems and Lyrics" for typos August 22nd - double check marrianne's brownie recipe ingredient list August 23rd - become a member of the 'mile-high' club August 24th - study up to qualify for tough entrance exam for Miss America contest August 25th - religiously brush teeth after scarfing down entire bag of cheetos August 26th - paint by numbers to Gratitude August 27th - try to remember what the last original joni CD was August 28th - plot strategy to camp outside starbucks september 24th August 29th - back to school shopping August 30th - question Joni's release in a month following one with 31 days August 31st - put thinking cap on for September activities Suze, ever the planner - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get all the Hottest Artists on Your Cell Phone - Plus 10 Bonus Tones Today! Find Your New Ringtone at Lycos Mobile. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:33:42 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Samuel_Jer=F3nimo?=" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #293 Hi Sherelle, My story exactly! "Court and Spark" was even stronger since it was my first Joni Mitchell album. I never liked songs like "Car On A Hill" or "Raised On Robbery" but the rest is really great! Whenever I ear "Trouble Child", especially the line "Breaking like the waves at Malibu", i feel very near to the ocean, any ocean; I feel the sea touching my toes. Samuel > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:24:05 +0000 > From: "Sherelle Smith" > Subject: RE: SV: A case of you > > Thank you for sharing that Marion. Your words give totality to the meaning > of the song. Even though it was a song about a break up, I got so stuck on > the words from the chorus and the kind of love she had for this person, it > was hard for me to hear anything else. I am now beginning to understand > the > song in its totality. I think I needed to hear someone say that they loved > someone this much out loud. (Both Sides Now..."To say 'I love you' right > out > loud...) > > The album that touched my life when I needed it most was "Court and Spark" > as I was going through the realization of unrequited love at that time as > well too. It truly helped me to get through that phase of my life. I > couldn't believe that someone could be so honest about heartbreak. > > Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:07:51 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Ingmar Bergman and Michelangelo Antonioni-RIP From: "anon anon" > 2 magnificent directors died yesterday... Antonioni was my favorite > director... I just love "L'avventura","L'eclisse", and "blow up"... how > strange that they should both die on the same day... I'm happy that they > both lived long lives... And both are contained in Joni songs...sort of.... "Bergman's nordic blues" "these are the clouds of Michelangelo" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:52:07 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #293 I love the Malibu line. I just spent a bunch of time out in Malibu looking at them waves and hanging out. I drove by Joni's as well (OMG what a groupie) Highlight of THAT trip was Rick's B-Day party for Brad and hanging with the Dulson's and Kakki and getting to meet "the boys" (Val Shel and Chris) who were very sweet and super friendly. Hope to get together with them again next time I am out there in October. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band cell-504-382-0343 http://www.preservationhall.com On Jul 31, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Samuel Jersnimo wrote: Hi Sherelle, My story exactly! "Court and Spark" was even stronger since it was my first Joni Mitchell album. I never liked songs like "Car On A Hill" or "Raised On Robbery" but the rest is really great! Whenever I ear "Trouble Child", especially the line "Breaking like the waves at Malibu", i feel very near to the ocean, any ocean; I feel the sea touching my toes. Samuel > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:24:05 +0000 > From: "Sherelle Smith" > Subject: RE: SV: A case of you > > Thank you for sharing that Marion. Your words give totality to the > meaning > of the song. Even though it was a song about a break up, I got so > stuck on > the words from the chorus and the kind of love she had for this > person, it > was hard for me to hear anything else. I am now beginning to > understand > the > song in its totality. I think I needed to hear someone say that > they loved > someone this much out loud. (Both Sides Now..."To say 'I love you' > right > out > loud...) > > The album that touched my life when I needed it most was "Court and > Spark" > as I was going through the realization of unrequited love at that > time as > well too. It truly helped me to get through that phase of my life. I > couldn't believe that someone could be so honest about heartbreak. > > Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:59:51 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: My Bergman Blues My beloved, Ingmar Bergman, Goodnight1 Waitress, This evening I'll have me Some Wild Strawberries. Milk and toast and honey, too, please! And, bring me me a bowl of oranges and sliced cucumbers, too. If you would be so kind and so sweet! Tonight, I'll be smiling, like you are On this quiet summer's night And I'll have me a bottle of that dark red wine You have here at this 24 hour Bar and Grill A crystal chalice for my holy wine, thank you! A pretty cartoon coaster, too Your diamond earrings sparkle So pretty, Madam Waitress Like the Rhine at night Keep those hues of the dim TV screen light on Shining through this glass so darkly Cause I got me a bad case of those bittersweet Bergman Blues. Thank you, Madam May I wear your black diamond earrings Duriing the silence? , !Viva Ingmar Bergman, siempre! Descansa en paz' Jean - --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:46:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Court and Spark Funny. There was not a song or even note on that album that I did not love. Jerry Samuel Jersnimo wrote: > Hi Sherelle, > > > > My story exactly! "Court and Spark" was even stronger since it was my > first > Joni Mitchell album. I never liked songs like "Car On A Hill" or "Raised > On > Robbery" but the rest is really great! > > Whenever I ear "Trouble Child", especially the line "Breaking like the > waves > at Malibu", i feel very near to the ocean, any ocean; I feel the sea > touching my toes. > > > > Samuel > > > >> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:24:05 +0000 >> From: "Sherelle Smith" >> Subject: RE: SV: A case of you >> >> Thank you for sharing that Marion. Your words give totality to the >> meaning >> of the song. Even though it was a song about a break up, I got so stuck >> on >> the words from the chorus and the kind of love she had for this person, >> it >> was hard for me to hear anything else. I am now beginning to understand >> the >> song in its totality. I think I needed to hear someone say that they >> loved >> someone this much out loud. (Both Sides Now..."To say 'I love you' right >> out >> loud...) >> >> The album that touched my life when I needed it most was "Court and >> Spark" >> as I was going through the realization of unrequited love at that time >> as >> well too. It truly helped me to get through that phase of my life. I >> couldn't believe that someone could be so honest about heartbreak. >> >> Sherelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:26:08 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: RE: Shine sampler WOW!!!!!!! She sounds SO GOOD!!! JONI'S BACK!!!!! thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:26:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Court and Spark A big me too on that one. I love every second, and often will replay it when I get to the end. The whole record to me seems like ONE blissful song. Bob NP: The Dixie Chicks, "Sweet Baby James" - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:28:44 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY DESTROYED BY FLOOD, njc > >Crawford , Texas - A tragic flood this morning destroyed the personal > >library of President G.W. Bush. The flood began in the presidential > >bathroom where both of the books were kept. > > > >Both books have been lost. A presidential spokesman said the > >president was devastated, since he was almost finished coloring the > >second one. > > > >The White House tried to call FEMA, but there was no answer Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:42:33 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: NJC Re: The Grinch Who Couldn't Steal Joni Mon Amie! I totally agree with my friend Bobby Loo Who! How original! I already have my belly that would swing back and forth as I hold hands with my fellow Joni amigos! Rob and I always laugh at how synchronized that is wheneve we watch it! Oh Patti, please go on and recite that part in your own special way as well! I can't say it word for word but it's my favorite part. I can only remember one part, "It came...somehow, it came..." That's what we'll be singing on September 25th! Love, Sherelle >From: "Patti Parlette" >> >>LOL - job well done, Patti. Makes me want to get in a BIG circle with all >>JMDLer's and start singing the "Yahoo-do-race" song. >> >> > >Oh, you mean this one, Bobby Loo Who? "Welcome Christmas"? > >http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/patc/grinch/#songs > >(the song is on the left) > >Sweet! > >I can picture us all. > >Or how about singing like at the end of A Charlie Brown Christmas, with our >mouths turned upward, catching snowflakes on our tongues, singing: > >"Hark, the herald ANGEL sings!" > >http://www.last.fm/music/Vince+Guaraldi+Trio/_/Hark,+the+Herald+Angels+Sing > >LOL...Nat King Cole is on the left on that screen! Like the guy at the gas >pumps! (Miles and Ella are there, too). > >Love, > >Peppermint Patty, thinking that Christmas is coming 3 months early this >year, September 25th > >_________________________________________________________________ >Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! >http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 > _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:47:53 EDT From: JLoehr4988@aol.com Subject: Re: Court and Spark ' A big me too on that one. I love every second, and often will replay it when I get to the end. The whole record to me seems like ONE blissful song.' Me too!! I have it over my visor and sometimes a C&S song will come to mind and I'll pop it in, however I never listen to just the one song, it's gotta be the whole album,,it's a masterpiece really, I love it!!! Best regards...judy ps...now that i think of it I rarely listen to just ONE song on any joni album! ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: cockfighting & dogfighting laws (njc) These poor pitbulls, in the hands of these cruel bastards like sacrificail lambs, suffering and dying, only to fullfill these horrible human's bloodlust only to fullfill thier rabid, filthy bloodlust It's a dirty blow to the African-American population who have had more than enough racism to deal with for so long. It's a black and scarlett mark on the sport of baseball. If they don't fire that baseball player's cocky ass, I fear baseball's demise coming on and soccer could take over, which could be a better thing. I don't care anymore because as wonderful as the sport was for America, guys like this idiot, whatever his name is, are ruining an American tradition of hot dogs and apple pie, that was once a whole lot more than that. J Edgar already ate all of the pie. And, this administration wants to continue slamming free choice behind us and they want to continue lying, cheating, scheming and scamming with our hard earned monies to fill their pockets with such an indecent gesture of some sort of freaking freedom for Iraq?! And stealing away, worse of all, innocent life and trying to do away with any form of sanctity of the whole world's life. It's our lives and our securities, NOT theirs for the stealing, Contiuance with both these prime-time crimes must come to a halt now and it's every person' responsibilitiy. They use us and innocent animals as slaves with no respect for our lives and feelings. I, along with everyone I know shall boycott baseball and the American political lies, if they don't kick these little devils out of sports and politics. They are breaking our backs, our little piggy banks, our hearts and souls, scrounging like vultures, still! Jean Victor Johnson wrote: From the hsus.org factsheet: State Cockfighting Laws Cockfighting is illegal in 48 states and the District of Columbia, and all interstate transportation or export of cocks for fighting purposes is prohibited by the federal Animal Welfare Act. Thirty- three states and the District of Columbia have made cockfighting a felony offense, 32 states and the District of Columbia prohibit the possession of cocks for fighting, 41 states and the District of Columbia prohibit being a spectator at cockfights, and 10 states prohibit the possession of cockfighting implements. This information is current as of December 2006. [cock fighting will soon be illegal in Louisiana according to a recent article in June] 6. Do some states already have felony laws? Yes. Dogfighting is illegal in all 50 states and a felony offense in almost every state. - --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:56:48 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY DESTROYED BY FLOOD, njc ;), :~}, :)).... Now reading: I'll Sleep When I'm Dead: The Dirty Life And Times Of Warren Zevon. ~Crystal Zevon~ It's more like a documental thing written by his ex-wife and interspersed with diction from old friends like Jackson Browne and many others. Literate stupids read only after they're dead! Jeannie Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > >Crawford , Texas - A tragic flood this morning destroyed the personal > >library of President G.W. Bush. The flood began in the presidential > >bathroom where both of the books were kept. > > > >Both books have been lost. A presidential spokesman said the > >president was devastated, since he was almost finished coloring the > >second one. > > > >The White House tried to call FEMA, but there was no answer Jim L. - --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:02:19 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Black and scarlett mark (njc) On Jul 31, 2007, at 7:42 PM, jeannie wrote: > > > It's a dirty blow to the African-American population > who have had more than enough racism to deal with > for so long. > It's a black and scarlett mark on the > sport of baseball. If you mean Michael Vick, he plays football for the Atlanta Falcons and he is definitely feeling the repercussions of his alleged involvement in dog fighting. He has already been banned from training camp and it is unlikely he will play this season at all, and questionable whether or not he ever play again period. It is a black mark for sure. Whatever his level of involvement was, he used extremely poor judgement and his endorsements are dropping like flies. Reebok has pulled all Vick products and the NFL has removed him completely from their online store. They are not tolerating this type of behavior and are making every effort to deal with the situation in an admirable fashion. Baseball, on the other hand, seems to be doing quite well, despite the fact this is being called the "question mark" era. Cal Ripken and Tony Gwyn, just entered into the hall of fame this past weekend, Barry Bonds is about to break Hank Aaron's homerun record, Tom Glavine is going for his 300th win, and Alex Rodriquez will become the youngest player ever to reach 500 homeruns. I'm not so keen on hotdogs but I love some good apple pie, with vanilla icecream...:) Victor NP: Braves vs. Astros ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:15:54 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #290 A Case of You Bruce, Keep differing! I love your take on the song! I think you are right on! I don't begin to claim that I understand the depth of this song as others do. You've hit on part of what I feel when I hear the song. Kudos! I love what you've said and I dare to stand corrected! Sherelle Bruce wrote: I beg to differ with both points of view on the line "I could drink a case of you and still be on my feet". This is my signature line from my signature song from my favorite Joni album, so I have spent much time contemplating this wonderful metaphor. I see this as the height of passion, where no thought or substance is greater than her feelings for the object of her desire. She laughs off the strong intoxicants because her love and raw desire are much stronger, and she is able to persist in her passion, to still be on her feet. This is the essence of aggressive determined passion. The key to this interpretation is the lines, "I drew a map of Canada, Oh, Canada, And your face sketched on it twice." In that moment of loneliness she calls out to her innermost roots, Oh, Canada, in an epiphany of longing and sorrow for the way things were and the way they might have been. In the center of that passionate outburst for home and sanctuary, your (his) face was sketched on it twice. In the vortex of the duality of loss and passion, of home and loneliness, she recites the litaney, "You are in my blood like holy wine Oh, and you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet Oh I could drink a case of you I could drink a case of you, darling And I would still be on my feet Oh, I'd still be on my feet." This is the divine passion, beyond the mundane, beyond ideomatic logic, pure Joni. Then she turns to the threnody, [ORIGIN mid 17th cent.: from Greek thrDnE idia, from thrDnos bwailingb + E idD bsong.b] "Oh, I am a lonely painter I live in a box of paints. I'm frightened by the devil And I'm drawn to those ones that ain't afraid." The passion and outpouring has passed and deep introspection has set in. Joni could have ended the song there, but she divines this coda, a visit from the saintly Mother, "I met a woman, she had a mouth like yours". The Mother causes passion to well up again, but this time around she says, "You're my holy wine", moving form the metaphor to the fact. Bonneville Bruce _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:41:35 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Eurofest 2008 NJC and what's wrong with bongos in the dirt around the oak tree? Dirt? Why, at Woodstock, we would have l-o-v-e-d to have had some dirt! (dry dirt, that is) And an oak tree? Heaven!... and a little scrap of food, fallen off the table at Yasgur's!.... a crust, even! you young'uns expect Marshall stacks and Macintosh power and pate and Veuve Clicqout backstage and so on...well, I never! (Actually I posed the same question to Lucy. Good question. But it'll work out. I'm sure everything will come together under Team Lucy) ChuckE On Jul 31, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Lucy Hone wrote: > Hey Dave > > The details of PA and things will be sorted out nearer the time. I > think ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:43:49 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Shine sampler I currently have 2 hours and 46 more minutes to go of downloading on the Shine sampler. You see, I had to wait for a good time when I could tie up the phone line for three hours because, well I've got to download this! Dial up is really a pain but it shall be worth it! So tell me, what all am I downloading here? What is part of the sampler exactly? - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:02:45 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: countdown to S H I N E that was precious - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Suze Cameron" Subject: countdown to S H I N E Countdown.... 57 days! 57 things to do each day while waiting for SHINE August 1st - act out the real meaning of hump day August 2nd - find nearest Starbucks August 3rd - if overseas, phone a friend nearest a Starbucks August 4th - practice ordering your double mocha blah blah August 5th - sort sock drawer or go to church, you decide August 6th - listen again to SHINE sampler - especially Gratitude August 7th - You Tube search for song lyrics August 8th - 8/8 think of something great (Happy Birthday Amy) August 9th - use beano if cooking Mexican cuisine August 10th - write a letter of Gratitude to Ms. Mitchell for recording August 11th - bake cookies and send them to Mrs. Cameron August 12th - create a drum solo for Gratitude August 13th - watch for Letterman's top 10 list and steal ideas August 14th - sculpt joni 'bobble head' for mass consuption at Starbucks August 15th - reread article where joni is retiring from the music business August 16th - learn the steps to Fiddle and Drum August 17th - write lyrics for Gratitude August 18th - scour digest daily for references to Shine August 19th - decide if 'reuben' tipping is really a sport August 20th - prearrange your funeral, cuz you thought it would come before new Joni August 21st - search "Complete Poems and Lyrics" for typos August 22nd - double check marrianne's brownie recipe ingredient list August 23rd - become a member of the 'mile-high' club August 24th - study up to qualify for tough entrance exam for Miss America contest August 25th - religiously brush teeth after scarfing down entire bag of cheetos August 26th - paint by numbers to Gratitude August 27th - try to remember what the last original joni CD was August 28th - plot strategy to camp outside starbucks september 24th August 29th - back to school shopping August 30th - question Joni's release in a month following one with 31 days August 31st - put thinking cap on for September activities Suze, ever the planner _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #294 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------