From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #280 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, July 23 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 280 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: English FEST 2008 August Bank Holiday NJC [Lucy Hone ] coming out of lurkdom ["Susan Cooper" ] Re: Animated Dry Cleaner [Catherine McKay ] English FEST 2008 August Bank Holiday ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: covers njc [Smurf ] Don Freed and Joni photo [margaret elmtree ] Re: covers njc [Bob Muller ] RE: covers njc ["Richard Flynn" ] Re: covers njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: FTR [David Sapp ] Re: covers njc ["Randy Remote" ] Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! ["P Bear" ] Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! [Bob Muller ] Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! [Michael Flaherty ] Re: coming out of lurkdom [Catherine McKay ] Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! [Motitan@aol.com] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #216 [StDoherty@aol.com] Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Eurofest 2008 ENGLAND [Michael Paz Subject: Re: English FEST 2008 August Bank Holiday NJC Dear Laurent Holycombe is lovely and this FEST will be really good fun. I know the venue from having been there for a party and thought then that it was an amazing venue for a FEST. Holycombe is a magical place, truly. There are always limits on numbers at events and the Fest is a moveable event and some people will be disappointed that they could not attend. JEan Yves orchard is also limited to the number who could attend and certainly to the number who could stay on site. There is nothing to stop you having a French Fest for those who wish to attend one in France in the same year. There are plenty of members in Europe who would love a chance to experience the Jean Yves site or return to it. I am offering something that will allow those from the UK to drive to an event on their home turf rather than have to "go abroad", and for those from America and Canada and other European countries to extend their experience of Europe by visiting the UK instead. At Jean Yves place there were only so many people he could accommodate in the little woooden huts in the garden or in the mill, so that people had to stay in B and B's nearby. There were only about 12 of us who stayed on site, and 6 of those camped. It was a lovely and unusual private venue, undoubtedly, but I have counted up who was there and JMDL members (plus their families) were, at my reckoning 27. Jean Yves and his friends added about 6 others. This site offers a chance for up to 50 to be together witout the hassle of having to move to B&B's in nearby towns (providing they are prepared to camp) Holycombe can sleep 25 on site, comfortably in real beds, and there is plenty of proper camping. There are proper loos and showers on the camping with access to the house at all times. There are bound to be B&Bs nearby for those who want a real bed, but are too late for one on site, and who will not camp. They can pay a daily attendance (price to be agreed with the Venue) as they did at France Fest in 2005. Undoubtedly there are larger places, but this is one of the most flexible sites as there is room inside for 50 to sit and listen to songs and outdoor space a plenty. As you found when you arranged FEST 2005 with Jean Yves, you find a venue and you just go for it..Jean Yves is is your mate who has his own buildings and land. It is not like this in England and this place is remote enough for us to be able to sing loudly late into the night. There is full public liability insurance on the site and excellent facilities. It is in a very secluded location in a place that is one of the prettiest in England. I stress that this will be a not for profit event with all accounts open to view from those who attend. The kitchens will be open for people to help themselves to tea and coffee and make snacks inbetween meals, should they wish to. I am sure in future years there will be other venues but for now this will do for this fest, the deposit is going down and I hope you will come along. You will have to hurry, places are filling fast. Lucy Laurent Olszer wrote: >Dear All > >The place looks nice but what happens if we exceed the capacity? In 2005 we >were close to 45 Jonifesters already so it shouldn't be less next year. > >Incidentally I was just at Jean Yves' mill today (location of the 05 Fest) >and he has created more terrasses, seats to view sunset from, herb garden, >fruit trees, etc. The basins are dry this year so I could walk inside the 2 >grottos and marvel at the natural sculptures inside. >He'd be willing to let us hold a Fest again at his place. > >Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:54:45 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Eurofest 2008 ENGLAND August 21(evening) to Monday 25th (am) LONG and complicated but please respond. I am confused. Are there two American jonifests lined up for 2008 - New Orleans and Full Moon...? Bene ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 06:30:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Animated Dry Cleaner http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9uIJ343js0 Here's a very clever animated video accompanying "The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines". Wish the guy would have done the entire song though. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "The Shadow Government" - --------------------------------- Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:06:24 -0400 From: "Susan Cooper" Subject: coming out of lurkdom Hi everyone, Coming out of lurkdom to see if anyone has watched this on youtube of some guy teaching how to play a Case of you. It's pretty funny but I've been playing it for the last week now. How cool is that? I haven't picked up my guitar in a while and now "I've got blisters on my fingers!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfUHYzDxTkk I've been on the list for ages and maybe right from the start. I usually don't post but always read and enjoy the discussions. Love it! For the old-times on the list I am the one whose sunflower painting was chosen for a Joni birthday card years back. That was quite the highlight for me! I still can't believe that even now. I heard Court and Spark when I was in high school and was totally blown away by it. I went right out and bought all albums that Joni had out prior to this and have been a fan ever since. I guess I love the list because not many understand the passion we have for her music and lyrics and also the "understanding" of Joni. She hits us to the core with so many truths in ways we ourselves cannot express. Coming out of lurkdom to say hey, and thanks! Sue Cooper PS- a special hey to a special GOOFBALL on the list and he KNOWS who he is!!!!!!!!!!! ;-) _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Animated Dry Cleaner - --- Bob Muller wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9uIJ343js0 > > Here's a very clever animated video accompanying > "The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines". Wish the guy > would have done the entire song though. > > Bob Thanks for posting that, Bob. Very nicely done. It led me to the video for "My secret place", which I had never seen before. Sometimes when you listen to a song after not listening to it for a while, (or see a video you had never seen before), something jumps out. This time it was the lines, "I was born and raised in New York City, I'm just getting used to Colorado" and I wonder who, if anyone, Joni was portraying in this song? Not normally my type of question, since I prefer just to listen to the words and music, but I wonder if this was meant to be the voice of anyone in particular? If no one knows, it's no big deal. Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 05:44:56 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: English FEST 2008 August Bank Holiday Dear All The place looks nice but what happens if we exceed the capacity? In 2005 we were close to 45 Jonifesters already so it shouldn't be less next year. Incidentally I was just at Jean Yves' mill today (location of the 05 Fest) and he has created more terrasses, seats to view sunset from, herb garden, fruit trees, etc. The basins are dry this year so I could walk inside the 2 grottos and marvel at the natural sculptures inside. He'd be willing to let us hold a Fest again at his place. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:33:20 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: covers njc http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/ttremastered/story/0,,2127431,00.html Observer's list of 50 top covers. No Joni content but an interesting list. mike in bcn np The Ethiopians - Everything Crash ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:20:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Smurf Subject: Re: covers njc << 27 Whitney Houston - I Will Always Love You (1992) (orig. Dolly Parton, 1974) Parton's original was a fragile, intimate love note. Troubled diva Houston's hysterical reading from The Bodyguard soundtrack broke our hearts. And many of our windows. >> Its inclusion here also broke this covers list's credibility for me! This slot easily could have been filled with the much more worthy "That Song About the Midway" by Bonnie Raitt, or "A Case of You" by Prince. Hell, I would have put Bob Muller's "Ethiopia" there before this Whitney Houston suicide causer! - --Smurf - --- mike pritchard wrote: > http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/ttremastered/story/0,,2127431,00.html > > Observer's list of 50 top covers. No Joni content > but an interesting list. > > mike in bcn > np The Ethiopians - Everything Crash > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:35:06 -0400 (EDT) From: margaret elmtree Subject: Don Freed and Joni photo Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:45:56 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Don Freed with Joni in Sweden? Since I have no idea what Don Freed looks like I wouldn't know him from Adam so if that isn't him with Joni they fooled me. If anybody recognises this Mr X please let me know! (so I can tell the people responsible for the website). Marion hi Marion, yes, this is Don Freed. Ive seen him several times . this is a wonderful photo of the two of them. He is a warm and kind man. sorry to be late in replying, Im on digest and have just caught up after a very busy week ;-) Mags - --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:52:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: covers njc I haven't heard everything on that list, but I have heard a lot of them. It's not a bad list, but you're right Bob - the Houston cover sticks out like a sore thumb. Then again, it may be the best-selling COVER of all time and as such might merit inclusion. I certainly never want to hear it again. Bob NP: Red Hot CHili Peppers, "Emit Remmus" - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:15:34 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: covers njc I agree about Whitey Houston's version, but Dolly's original is sublime! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob Muller Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 1:53 PM To: Smurf; mike pritchard; list Subject: Re: covers njc I haven't heard everything on that list, but I have heard a lot of them. It's not a bad list, but you're right Bob - the Houston cover sticks out like a sore thumb. Then again, it may be the best-selling COVER of all time and as such might merit inclusion. I certainly never want to hear it again. Bob NP: Red Hot CHili Peppers, "Emit Remmus" - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:47:11 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: covers njc Some good choices... Coltrane, Cash, Buckley... I would have included Tom Waits "Somewhere" from Blue Valentines and though it hasn't been around long, India Arie's cover of "Heart of the Matter" is simply sublime. Victor NP: nothing On Jul 22, 2007, at 11:33 AM, mike pritchard wrote: > http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/ttremastered/story/ > 0,,2127431,00.html > > Observer's list of 50 top covers. No Joni content but an > interesting list. > > mike in bcn > np The Ethiopians - Everything Crash ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: David Sapp Subject: Re: FTR ///The song FTR is accompanied by a really desolate picture which I can only believe is JT in a troubled period sitting in a hotel room, bottle of Jack,/// Interesting Chuck how we each can see art in a different way. I have this drawing framed and hanging on my wall and I always thought, because the James Taylor figure is not colored in and because the game being played is solitaire, he is not physically present "but tonight I can feel you here"... and that the drawing takes place at Joni's place in Canada because of the ocean in the background and because she "hear's it in the wind" and the "Arbutus" and "the moon sweeping down black water"; and a bottle of Jack looks to me like an empty bottle which is being used as a vase to hold the rose. In other words I think the drawing represents Joni's thoughts as she looks at her empty room (the bedspread also looks like something Joni would have in her home rather than a hotel bedspread, and I assumed it was her guitar lying on the bed) and imagines that James is there and from there begins to think about him leaving to go have "some guy circulate his heart around". I think this is one of Joni's greatest songs, musically and lyrically. And was even impressed by the Travelogue version which to me fleshed out the darker side of the lyric... the beauty of the original guitar piece now does not seem to quite capture the starkness of "the empty spotlight"... signing off for now, Peace, David - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:39:39 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: covers njc My greatest covers list (as soon as I send this I'll think of all the good ones I left out) Santana-Black Magic Woman (orig P.Green's F.Mac) Austin Lounge Lizards-Brain Damage - making P Floyd's dark tune into zany bluegrass.Must be heard 2B believed. Billie Holiday-Sunny Side of the Street-Just love the way she swings this one. Heart-Tell It Like It Is-bonus track from Greatest Hits album Michael Nesmith-I Looked Away-countrifies Clapton Pretenders-Stop Your Sobbing (orig Kinks) X-Soul Kitchen-punking The Doors Ringo Starr-You're Sixteen (you're beautiful, and you're mine) Willie Nelson-You Were Always On My Mind, Stardust Beatles-'Til There Was You, Roll Over Beethoven- nice covers from The Music Man and Chuck Berry Cold Blood-Your Good Thing (orig Aretha??) Richie Havens-Here Comes The Sun Susanna Hoffs&Matthew Sweet-Warmth of the Sun (B.Boys) Bangles-Hazy Shade of Winter - Rocking up the Simon & Garf Fiona Apple-Angel by Jimi Hendrix - not on an album but great version from live MTV set. Also, Send Me Some Loving ace version from Pleasantville ST. John Lennon-Slippin & Slidin, Just Because- 50's songs by ? Eagles-Old 55 (by Tom Waits) Janis Joplin-Ball and Chain (Big Mama Thornton), Summertime (by Gershwin) Blue Cheer-Summertime Blues - turning E. Cochran into metal Rolling Stones-Just My Imagination (Harold Melvin??) Manhattan Transfer-You'se a Viper Judy Collins-Both Sides Now (by ?? some chick singer) > http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/ttremastered/story/0,,2127431,00.html > > Observer's list of 50 top covers. No Joni content but an interesting list. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:20:38 +1000 From: "P Bear" Subject: Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! Isn't 'Starbucks' a coffee house franchise ? How many shops do they have , and where are they ? Didn't Joni start by singing in coffee shops ? What are their coffee and donuts like ? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WIN new Jeep Compass & Off-Road Adventure with Trading Post! Enter now! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:52:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! Yes, but they also have a music label, called "Hear Music". They've put out several compilations and most recently the latest Paul McCartney CD. About a bazillion....make it a bazillion and one...two...three...get it? They are literally everywhere there is disposable income. Coffeehouses, which are more night-clubbish than coffee shops which are more morning-oriented. I like their coffee a lot, it's dark & rich. They offer lots of different kinds. They don't do donuts. Bob NP: The Drive-By Truckers, "The Living Bubba" - --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:42:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! >>>I like their coffee a lot, it's dark & rich. They offer lots of different kinds. They don't do donuts. They do an Americanized (read "really big") version of scones and some other pasteries--IMO, they're all really bad. (I do like their coffee though--particularly the espresso.) Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:00:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: coming out of lurkdom - --- Susan Cooper wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Coming out of lurkdom to see if anyone has watched > this on youtube of some > guy teaching how to play a Case of you. It's > pretty funny but I've been > playing it for the last week now. How cool is that? > I haven't picked up my > guitar in a while and now "I've got blisters on my > fingers!" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfUHYzDxTkk > Hey, Susan. This looks like the one posted on jmdl.com at http://jmdl.com/guitar/tab.cfm?id=181 I've tried it out and it sounds pretty good to me, but I haven't touched my guitar in quite a while & I'm sure I'd get blisters too! Catherine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:18:08 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: starbucks to sign joni?!! In a message dated 7/22/2007 5:29:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, trekker_101@hotmail.com writes: What are their coffee and donuts like ? - ------------------------ Overpriced! - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:40:34 EDT From: StDoherty@aol.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2007 #216 In a message dated 7/21/2007 3:03:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org writes: My take on the "hammers and the boards and the nails" is that is a references to shutting down a theatre or music hall - the boards go over the windows. The "worship" I have never seen as overtly religious but more that 'worship' that comes from adoring fans who see their hero as a (demi-)god or from critics who can turn so quickly as Joni discovered when she released her masterpeice HOSL. This line is almost a warning to herself not to get too caught up in the hype - something I think she accomplished artistically as she was never prepared to repeat but always to progress. The line also echoes LOTC "tiny hammers hurled at bevelled mirrors and empty halls". Regards Kevin I just never thought of it as anything else but crucifixion. This interpetation is great and fits so well. And, as someone else said - as usual Joni could have intended the two meanings. They both work, but I'm so glad to get this new read. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:42:19 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Eurofest 2008 ENGLAND Nothing mammoth about it. If we do it in New Orleans we would have an evening concert probably on Saturday night other wise we would have the option to be in the city or on the Northshore in the woods at a private retreat. So far I have 18 people that have expressed definite interest. I hope Laurent does another one as well. It would be so cool if that works out for me to hop over from Spain. I drove past the Catskills today on my way to Albany and it made me sad thinking about having missed the last fest there and missing Jack. I also got a message from his mum telling me all about the tributes that took place in New Mexico and New Orleans yesterday. Anyways lets keep the efforts going and hopefully there will be much Joni gatherings in 08 We played in Schenectady tonight and Mona the presenter is a Joni fan. She is having and evening with Shawn Colvin coming up next month too. Spoke with Barbara Little this am and unfortunately missed seeing her and was only 15 minutes from where she lives yesterday for our concert. DRAT! Hope all are well and everyone had a great weekend. Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band cell-504-382-0343 http://www.preservationhall.com On Jul 22, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Lucy Hone wrote: Hey PAZ, That sounds like a mammoth event and full of stuff and busyness. I think there is room for everyone to attend what they want to attend. Your venue is wonderful for people who are in the US particularly and I know that Jimmy and Ed have been hoping to hear that you may be doing one so there are two probably definites. The last UK Fest was at Chris Marshalls, and there was a gathering in Bedford for Joni's 60th. But there has been nothing like this and it has been mooted around the UK members I know well for a long time and so taking that into account, and with encouragement from other UK members, am booking it. I don't think that running one in the UK will dent your figures at all. Maybe 2008 should be the year lots of fests take place globally with everyone who can, to attend the one that most suits their travel arrangements, budget and hoiday availability. The weekend I have chosen is a public holiday in the UK and so it will take almost nothing from UK workers holiday allowances. Not everyone wants to attend a huge fest and the one at Holycombe will be for about 50 people. Also the cost of travelling to the US is prohibitive for some whereas, for once, UK members can drive there (hurrah). It will be quite acoustic, and really rather free flow when it comes to performances. It really is the most wonderfully peaceful place and sits on ley lines with streams and quiet places. It is actually used by a lot of healers, and various druid meetings too. It won't be the same sort of experience that you are offering at all so it gives us all choice. Maybe the people who have said they will come to England from the US will not come now as they may be seeking more familiar territory andto meet up with the same people, but maybe they will I am not worried. It is August Next year so a way off and numbers will fluctuate as time goes by. I don't see that we have to worry about the number of Fests, I just see it as people having alternatives to choose from with the opportunity to meet members and visit places they would not normally go to. Some people have the money to attend everything they want to, but for UK and European members the cost to attend US events can be prohibitive when you factor in the amount of time involved, the air fares, car hire and ancilliary costs etc., This event will help the UK members who have never attendeda FEST to get to a FEST perhaps for the first time and it will strengthen the UK list bonds. I also think that new venues and experiences help to avoid the "it was not as good as the last time" comparison so lets keep FESTS as moveable, mobile events with a myriad of venues and experiences open to all. Laurent is possibly going to have another one at his mates place in the Corbieres in France and if it was happening when you were in Spain, it is not a huge hop across the border from Spain to Jean Yves place at all, and I would urge you to go for the full "garden experience". England FEST will be going ahead as there are plenty of UK people who have said they will come and it will be a lovely chance for meeting and fleshing out the members who have existed on e-mail only, so far. I will be asking for committment in the next 10 days as my own money will be going down as a deposit. I hope people won't see this as a gauntlet being thrown down, its about opportunity for all and this is one opportunity among many that are there. Wouldn't it be lovely if 2008 was the year more people, around the world, got together, sung into the night, and realised that the Joni group are the best in the world, wherever in the world that might be. Love and hugs and full of excitement Lulcy Michael Paz wrote: > Queen Lucy- > > This looks like such a fab place. I would love to go here, but I don't > know if I can pull it off. I am currently studying doing another fest > next year as I had discussed with Ashara and at the urging of so many. > I can do one in New Orleans which would be great. Howlin' Wolf has > agreed to host us there any day I want. There is a Episcopal retreat > on the Northshore (swimming pools, private rooms for up to 100 + > performance spaces, lakes, etc. for about $100 a day with meals but no > booze included, we can bring our own) that is perfect for a retreat > type gathering and we can do a tour bus into New Orleans for an all > star event like we had last time at the Wolf. I have a hotel sponsor > that I can host people for $89.00 a night right on Lee Circle (8 > blocks from the French Quarter) so I have options. Many new Orleans > artists have expressed great interest in doing another tribute show as > part of our festivities. > Club Med in Florida offers an all inclusive package with all meals and > premium booze included that was $100 per person per night as of last > year. I am waiting for another quote from the agent that is helping me. > I would like to do all of them (Full Moon, UK, and Florida or New > Orleans). I am already scheduled to go to Spain next year with my > family and I think that is in June so UK will probably be out for me > unless a tour comes thru for the band next August with one of the > promoters that hosted us this year. It is in the planning stages so it > is possible. Lets have an open discussion cause I hate to see Ashara > cancel Full Moon. I will go with what the majority wants to do. I love > the gatherings where ever they may be. I will let you guys know when I > hear back from the Club Med people on the new prices this year. As > well as the links for you guys to check everything out. Best of luck > with your plans and I hope it works out that I am in your area at the > time it happens. > > Love > > Paz In beautiful Pennsylvania > > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > Tour Manager > Preservation Hall Jazz Band > http://www.preservationhall.com > > > > > On Jul 21, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Lucy Hone wrote: > > OK here goes for those who may be interested > > I would like to float this to the group to see about tentative bookings > for an event next August to be held at this location. www.holycombe > .com > > I am being asked to put down a deposit to hold the place open but really > cannot put up my own money without some sort of committment from > everyone else. > > It is an amazing place in the heart of some of the most beautiful > countryside you will see in England. It really has something special > going on... > > Here is the enquiry I made > >>Dear Sally >>> >>>I am contacting you with an enquiry regarding the possibility of holding >>>a gathering of people who appreciate the music of Joni Mitchell. >>> >>>The JMDL is a longstanding discussion group and over the years have held >>>"Fests" in America, Europe and the UK. if you go to www.jmdl.com > that is >>>the mother page of the group and you can see about the fests that have >>>taken place. >>> >>>I came to Holycombe in April last year for my old friend Christine >>>Cleere's Life Affirmation and I have to say that the instant I arrived, >>>I thought what a great place it would be to hold a UK fest. To find >>>somewhere with a performance space, sleeping, catering, a bit of camping >>>ground and in such a "back to the garden setting" is so unusual that I >>>want to see what can be arranged. >>> >>>Garrett McDermott who is also a list member has seen your website and >>>though it was a good idea to float this venue and some prices to the >>>group to see how many people might be interested. >>> >>>It is possible that we might look at the August Bank holiday of 2008. I >>>realise that this a request far in advance but feel it needs to be made >>>now, as people need to think about comitting to this and the more time >>>they are given the better it will be. >>> >>>We are looking at about 25 people coming, maybe 35 as a maximum. >>>We would want all the accommodation for a Thursday afternoon arrival and >>>a Monday lunchtime leaving. so that would be Thurs, Fri, Sat and Sun >>>nights. >>> >>>Is that possible? I know that you have people who hold their group >>>meetings and clinics in the various therapy rooms and the Angel room so >>>I would like to know that it would be possible to be able to be there >>>and not disrupt anyone. As it would be a Bank Holiday the Monday may not >>>be a problem, but the Thursday pm and Friday might be. >>> >>>The reason for this length of stay request is that some of the people >>>who would be likely to attend would be coming from europe, America and >>>Canada and they would need to get from Heathrow, or Gatwick on their day >>>of arrival and overcome jetlag. If it was just a Friday night and >>>Saturday night stay the journey would not be worth it. >>> >>>We would also like some camping availability (I would camp and I have >>>and extra tent which sleeps four for other people). What amount of room >>>is there for tents. We would also want the fire pit for the evening song >>>circle, weather permitting. >>> >>>Would you allow any one with a camper van to sleep in their van? How >>>much per person and how much for a van placement? I don't know of >>>anyone with a camper van but I might get asked this... >>> >>>We will self cater, but I cannot remember how many ovens there are in >>>the kitchen (which I know is not huge, but it is certainly adequate. Is >>>there a freezer? are barbeques permitted? >>> >>>I know that you have all the prices on your website, but I thought that >>>if I put it to you, you might be able to give us a guide price per head >>>per night to include all the facilities we would need. >>> >>>Let me leave this enquiry with you and let you think about it. We are a >>>very well behaved group of people, mostly middle aged, mostly middle >>>management, but just old hippies at heart. >>> >>>Thank you, and I look forward to hearing from you. >>> >>>Best regards >>> >>>Lucy Hone >> > Here is the reply > >> I'm sure we can supply all that you ask. >> >Aug bank hol 08 is available >> >You can have 35 people - but only 20 max can "sit down" at our dining >> table, >> so if you didn't mind being a buffet that's fine. >> We can accomodate >> >(officially) 18 residentially but unofficially (and depending on how > many >> >couples who can sleep in a double bed together) about 25 people and then >> >loads of campers. >> We have a Singing Weekend where we have 50 people but we >> >do depend on good weather to feed everyone picnic style outside. >> If there are going to be a lot of you (over 18) you can use the >> kitchen in The Lodge >> >as well as the course kitchen, which is not usually part of the deal. >> >> >Camping - there is a flush loo and 2 stylish compost loos in the camping >> >area and we should have put in a shower by Aug 08 up there. >> >There is a firepit and yes to the camper van - > >> campers and camper van have a #10 discount per 48 hours, so #20 off >> for a four night weekend on the price. >> >Price - the price for a 48 hour weekend is #85 in 2008 > >> so if you double it > >> >for Thurs and Sun you get #170 per person. > >> Price for single supplements is #7.50 per person per night. >> >Yes to barbeques. >> >Fridges - there are fridges dotted all over the place but freezer >> space is >> >limited. >> > Me again now......... > > My take on it is that it is going to be absolute max #200 for > accommodations (I don't understand the single supplement bit...so add > #30 to the cost as a precaution) with campers taking off #20. > > so #180 if you camp. These prices can come down obviously...if single > sups dont apply if all the space is taken (I hope) > > We would need to agree about catering. They can arrange caterers, but I > think, to keep costs down, We could, between us find some willing hands > to share the meal prep so that we can have a great breakfast, and an > evening meal for around about #20 per person per day. This does not > incude alcohol, we would bring our own. > > SAy #10 per head for Thursday and Monday, #20 for Friday Sat and Sunday. > > The run of the FEST would go something like this > > Thursday > > Arrive and have a gathering and meal for those arriving that night, song > circle and general FEST type catching up and enjoying > > Friday > > Breakfast say between 9.00 and 10.30, clear up > > Free time to go and take in the Rollright Stones, general rambling in > the countryside or what ever you fancy doing There are some great places > around there. > > 7pm supper > > 9.00pm performances and whatever usually happens > > Saturday > > Breakfast > > Free time, I would suggest a visit to Bourton on the Water or whatever > you fancy doing > > 7 pm meal and evening performances, song circle etc, > > Sunday: > > Breakfast, clear up and lazy morning Free time, chilling or site seeing > > 5 pm barbeque and activities (I would like a re-run of the song tag > competition) Maybe a story circle of our favourite Joni related stories, > personal experiences, > > Evening performances > > Monday morning breakfast and clear up and leave by 12.00 noon. > > Just to make this clear I am proposing that the catering is done on a > not for profit basis and that any money left overr be donated to several > charities. I am either thinking of an AIDS charity like the Terrence > Higgins Trust and A leukaemia support charity such as the Chronic > Lymphocytic Leukaemia Support Association. I do not envisage much being > over but I think its good to moot these points now. > > All accounts will be open to inspection and available to all who attend > the FEST. I will suggest that a Pay Pal account is set up for this > venture so that there is a clear audit trail for monies in and out. > > SO what say you. I need to put down a deposit very very soon so I need > you to commit now but no money would be needed until about May 2008. > > Cheers > > Lucy > > missblux@googlemail .com wrote: > >> Hi Lucy, >> >> Let's have a European Jonifest! A few months ago, Laurent suggested >> organizing one every other year. The place you are suggesting looks >> amazing... Tell us more! >> >> Bene in Copenhagen >> > > > __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (0)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS Jim Slim jim Jim brickman Jim croce Jim rohn Yahoo! Groups Moderator Central Connecting a world of moderators HDTV Support The official Samsung Y! Group for HDTVs and devices. Yoga Groups Find Enlightenment & exchange insights with other members . __,_._,___ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:44:44 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: [NortheastJonifest] Re: Eurofest 2008 ENGLAND August 21(evening) to Monday 25th (am) LONG and complicated but please respond. Sorry I don;t mean to confuse the issue. I am just threatening to have one. It has been over a year in the development and I will make a formal announcement pending finishing my research. I was going to do one this year, but decided to not do it to not interfere with Full Moon, but I think Lucy is right, the more gatherings the better cause everyone can't do everything and everybody wants to do something. Best Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Tour Manager Preservation Hall Jazz Band cell-504-382-0343 http://www.preservationhall.com On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:54 AM, missblux@googlemail.com wrote: I am confused. Are there two American jonifests lined up for 2008 - New Orleans and Full Moon...? Bene ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #280 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------