From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #270 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, July 15 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 270 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- another sunny synday--- ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! [missblux@googlemail.com] new joni cover ["ron" ] Stills; njc ["Laurent Olszer" ] Re: another sunny synday--- + Joni Covers 16 [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Possible new list member [Motitan@aol.com] NJC Farm Aid!! [Motitan@aol.com] Re: NJC Farm Aid!! [Motitan@aol.com] Re: St. Vincent - NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: njc I got runned over by the Truckers ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! njc [jeannie ] Re: Anecdote ["Randy Remote" ] Re: NJC Farm Aid!! NJC/NYC [jeannie ] Re: Anecdote [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: Anecdote ["gene" ] Re: Anecdote NJC [Bob Muller ] Re: Anecdote NJC [jeannie ] Bill Moyers Journal NJC ----> Impeach! ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc most confident about [Motitan@aol.com] women in film njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] St. Vincent - NJC ["Patti Parlette" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:42:17 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: another sunny synday--- (Well it's been raining a lot in the south-east of Norway this summer, so a sunny sunday is being warmly welcomed) I must say you JMDL'ers have a huge impact on my musical taste and preferences. This month I finally got some extra money at hand, and what did I do --- well bought music, of course.... Along with Sherelle's debut CD, I also purchased Big yellow Taxi, their second album, Cat Power: "The Greatest" (An artist who I first heard about through this very list.) Ani DiFranco: Her Debut, "To Teeth" and "Reprieve" and Nellie Mckay: "Pretty Little Head." (I will get her debut as well, but I will havw= e to wait 'till next salary I guess...) I think Bob must be a main-influence here, so thanks for your ever sharing spirit Bob !!! Besides filling up my newly bough computer with all this great music - I also for the moment find joy and inspiration in spreading music to my friends and family. My brother mentioned for me that he really missed "Hejira" - two years ago = I lived at his house for two months and "Hejira" stayed with him for a longer time. Also he heard the fantastic track "All I want" with Holly Brook from Covers Compilatation #89 - right away he asked "Who's that girl singing? Sh= e sounds great." So now I've downloaded Holly Brook and sent to him along wit= h "Shadows and Lights" and "Hejira." He's always respected my interest for Joni and he is esp. weak for early Joni ("Ladies of the canyon") But I was so happy that he now was ready to move on !!! It is always a joy for me to share Joni's music or my knowledge about her to anyone who asks. She has provided me such rich sources for inspiration the last 7-8 years that my cu= p runneth over. And now that rich inspiration of me is being passed along to my friends... "Start spreading the news..." In Oslo we have this fantastic music store: Bare Jazz or Only Jazz.( http://www.barejazz.com/ )Bodil Niska who runs the shop is also a jazz musician. If you ever come to Oslo and you're a bit into Jazz I would reall= y recomend a visit. They aslo have a caf'=E9, where you can chill out with yo= ur beer or coffee while listening to great Jazz. Well, this is the kind if sho= p that when you asks for a cd they don't have at hands, they really take it seriously. They call you up when they got it, and this is NOT NORMAL procedure in Norway... (I think you Americans are much better hen it comes to paying attention and providing service to your customers. In Norway normal proecure would be PURE INDIFFERNECE, and this gives me heavy boots...) Now most CD's can be bought at Amazon.com cheaper, but I find it being of vital importance trying to support great places like this in anywa= y I can. So the other day after reading Joseph in Chapel Hills mention of the Jazz singer Kurt Elling. I went into the their netshop and ordered his latest CD. I know I will pay the doble, for what I could. And some of you probably find that stupid and not very economic. Well, for me it is a ethical and aesthical choice. We really need placec like this. Oasis that provides us with great music - knowledge and cofee !! So for me it's worth every krone/$$ ...I also asked the other guy in the shop what concerts he would recomend for the upcoming Oslo Jazz festival *(* http://www.oslojazz.no/) He really recomended Phil Woods, are anyone familiar with his music...? After getting internet at home, I also started to burn CD's with a wide range of my favorite artists to some of my friends. And I find myself dropping in some songs from the cover compilations. Esp. #89 - which is one of my favorites. Now, there is a track that I really like and that I have inclueded on a cd to a friend who had a tough year. "Both sides no"...Problem is I cannot say who is singing. It's a kind of Jazzy version, woman singing, I thinks it's a great version. I scanned through Bob's index for #89 but cannot find anything that really resmebles it. Now, is there anybody out there who knows the artist. I prepaered a link for anyone interested. What I especially like with this version is theat chill-out jaz= z feeling, it goes werll with the text - the song... Well, people thanks for providing me with great music - interesting thought and discussion on America and conversation. I'm very happy to be a part of this warm arrangmenet. Love from Oddmund, Enebakk/Oslo - Norway N.P Stacey Kent: You've got a friend [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type audio/x-ms-wma which had a name of 09 Spor 9.wma] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:59:03 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! Hi Jerry! I went to Ingrid's website (at first your message confused me because I did not know his wife's name was Ingrid!), there is an interview where someone says Jahco.... But let's see what she says! Yaco is my invention I'm sure, it's like the many years I couldn't find CDs by Louis Jordan because I had changed his name to Gordon... I found two pics of Joni on his site: http://jacop.net/joniherbie.html http://jacop.net/joni_jaco.html Best Bene On 7/13/07, Jerry Notaro wrote: > I've written to Ingrid and asked for the correct pronunciation. She is very > good about responding to correspondence. > > Jerry > > > > > > Hey Mark, > > > > I thought I had heard Joni saying Yako in some interview, and that it > > had to do with his Finnish roots. But I wonder now if in fact she said > > "Jahco", and I added the rest, just because I noticed it doesn't rhyme > > with wacko.... I guess you are right! > > > > Benedicte > > > > On 7/12/07, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> Bene, I have been pronouncing it, "Jacko". The J is hard in English > >> and, since he was raised in the USA, I assumed it to be pronounced that > >> way. > >> > >> One area where Americans differ from Australians is on vowels. > >> Americans use long vowel sounds. Australians defer to the short vowel > >> sound usually. Therefore, "Jacko". Americans may pronounce it "Jahco". > >> Can the Americans confirm this? > >> > >> Mark in Sydney > >> > >> NP Morphing Thru Time - Enigma ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:51:19 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: new joni cover hi went to the local music venue on friday to listen to silver creek mountain band. theyre not a particularly great band, but its always a great party - kind of a campfire singalong with great, familiar songs (jambalaya, dead skunk, strike a martch, bony fingers, city of new orleans,,,, you get the idea) they had some new cds there - from live shows done a while back, so i bought a 2cd set from 1994. when i sat down, i found a cover of both sides now on it. its available here - together with some other covers which i think i never sent you way back (phillip moolman & lucas maree (except its monica maree (wife? daughter?) doing the vocals) ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:15:24 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: Stills; njc Kate wrote Sorry if I missed any concert reports but has anyone seen Stills on his current tour? Is he playing solo or does he have backing musicians with him (who?)... I'm asking cause he's coming to town in a few days... but so are the pretenders, heart... dang so much music so little time Hi I heard 4-5 shows from the current tour. He's in fine form, just like vintage wine. Don't miss him! Laurent One example from April 20, 2007 acoustic) 01 crowd 02 Helplessly Hoping 03 Different Man 04 4 + 20 05 Treetop Flyer 06 Blind Fiddler 07 The Right Girl 08 So Begins The Task 09 Daylight Again > FTCOF electric) 01 Southern Cross 02 Acadienne 03 Wounded World 04 Feed The People 05 Ole Man Trouble 06 Isn't About Time 07 For What It's Worth 08 Love The One You're With 09 Dark Star 10 Woodstock The Band Joe Vitale drums and vocals Todd Caldwell keys and vocals Kevin McCormack or Kenny Passarelli - bass guitar ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: another sunny synday--- + Joni Covers 16 You are certainly most welcome, Oddmund - needless to say, I LOVE music and it's pure joy to share that passion with those of a like mind. While many people and things have let me down, my music is always there for me. The only one I see that matches that description on #89 is the cover by The Jordan Family. Maybe that is it? I'm glad that you liked the Holly Brook cover so much that you downloaded some more stuff by her. That's ultimately one of the thrusts of the project, particularly when it comes to new artists and releases. And I totally agree about supporting indie shops. I could pick up new releases cheaper at the big box stores but I prefer the selection and service I get at Earshot Records - plus they give bonuses! This week I bought the new release by Spoon and also got as a giveaway a 2-track 45 that I added on. And hey, while we're speaking of giveaways and covers - omigod it's the 15th already, so here's a Joni Covers blast from the past - Volume 16. http://tinyurl.com/37srfa And it contains: Hoyt Axton  He Played Real Good For Free The P.D.U.S.M.  Urge For Going Jane Michel  Woodstock Jane Michel  Both Sides Now Lisa Yves  The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines Lisa Yves  Twisted Lydia van Dam  Black Crow Bev Hanson  Both Sides Now Vera Haime  You Turn Me On, Im A Radio Michael Ball  River Mary OHara  Both Sides Now Kennedy  Urge For Going O.C. Smith  Just Couldnt Help Myself Jeff Buckley  Peoples Parties (live) Jeanne McDonald  Both Sides Now Singers Unlimited  Chelsea Morning P.M. Dawn  Night In The City Jody Miller  Urge For Going Peggy Chew  Sweet Sucker Dance Enjoy! Bob NP: Nothing, since Mrs SCJoniguy is asleep & snoring beside me - --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:09:24 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Possible new list member Hi, I just have to tell you. Just played a few rounds of "betapet" - a Swedish version of Scrabble and met a girl there (young, born in 1989!!!) who had a picture of Joni Mitchell on her profile! So of course I asked her, and she said Joni was her favourite artist. I got excited since I nearly never encounter anybody in Sweden who is a fan of Joni's. People my own age usually shrug their shoulders when I bring her up and say, well, I used to like her when I was young, in a rather disinterested way- if they even know about her. Young people often know about her, Woodstock and all, but do not buy her records (the ones I met that is, and I do meet quite a lot, students of the universities where I have been teaching). So this was an experience I haven't had before, it was like suddenly and unexpectedly coming upon a kindred spirit. Of course I told her about the jmdl and she promised to join. Marion ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:19:43 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! In a message dated 7/15/2007 7:00:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, missblux@googlemail.com writes: I found two pics of Joni on his site: http://jacop.net/joniherbie.html http://jacop.net/joni_jaco.html Best Bene - -------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the direct link to those pictures! Always appreciated! - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:31:25 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Possible new list member In a message dated 7/15/2007 11:27:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, marionleffler@telia.com writes: So this was an experience I haven't had before, it was like suddenly and unexpectedly coming upon a kindred spirit. Of course I told her about the jmdl and she promised to join. - ------------------------------------------ That must be something! I hope she does join! All aboard the Joni express....... - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:17:54 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: NJC Farm Aid!! I'm trying to win two front row tickets to the 2007 Farm Aid concert. You can help me win by playing Top of the Haystack and voting for me. Neil Young is playing! Neil! If I happen to be so very, uncharacteristically lucky, I'll take somebody from the JMDL who is a fan of Neil's or Dave Matthews or anyone else who is playing to the show! Would anyone want to go? Capiche? _www.topofthehaystack.com_ (http://www.topofthehaystack.com) Please, please, please put this page in your favorite places and get voting July 26th starting at 5 PM est. If I am at the top of the votes August 30th, I win! bJust as rock & roll is loud and proud, so is Farm Aid. Farm Aid's greatest accomplishment, I believe, is in the spirt. It's the fact that we represent the spirit of the good fight, to keep something good happening. It just keeps getting stronger and stronger....b b Neil Young - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 12:29:36 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Farm Aid!! Oh, my name in the voting is Cinnamon Girl aka Monika (some folks from MySpace know me as "Cinnamon Girl" as that used to be my MySpace name...some still refer to me as that though I've changed my MySpace name a hundred times since then....) and I'm the girl in the black&white photo wearing sunglasses about to strum her electric guitar in front of a Marshall amp....I'm not sure how my entry will show so I thought I'd give you a heads up. I don't see my entry listed yet though....(I also mention being 22 as part of my entry).... - -Monika Thanks! ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:46:11 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: St. Vincent - NJC Wow Joseph! What an amazing review! Just reading your words makes me want to find out more about her! I love how you described her onstage personality as well...very refreshing! You covered it all! I will look for her on My Space so that I can hear some music. Thank you for such a wonderful and detailed review! Love, Sherelle Joseph wrote: Anyone on the List digging Annie Clark a.k.a. St. Vincent? I first heard her via a good review of her debut album "Marry Me" from the New York Times. Then I read about her some more in allmusic.com. She was compared to Feist for their passionate love for sound imageries and old-fashioned vocals that veer towards torch singing. And she was said to have toured with Sufjan Stevens as part of his insect-dressed musicians. So in essence I must have seen Annie Clark already when Sufjan performed in Chapel Hill early last year. Imagine my surprise when I saw a poster around town announcing that she is performing at Local 506 -- a smoke-filled concert venue in the Chapel Hill-Carrboro crosswalk which I frequent. So last night, after watching a good movie (do catch "Golden Door" a.k.a. Nuovomondo -- very magical-surrealist-realist-mythical-____ (insert fave description)), I headed to Local 506 to catch the late show. And man, what a sonic experience! First of all, she looked like a cross between former Azure Ray member Maria Taylor and actress Annabella Sciorra, but she sounded closer to Nina Nastasia. She was dressed in something that's hard for me to describe without resorting to weird parallels. She had on some translucent black stockings/leggings and she wore this one-piece dress that kinda looks like a loose tubular shirt you wear when you go to sleep. It reminded me both of those 80s outfits of female singers with frizzy hair and with slightly futuristic accoutrements. The backing band features a drummer of such intensity that for some anachronistic reason, I thought I can see him wear a suit and morph into 1940s-era Gene Krupa! Then a violinist who chose to play more raga-type of stylings with a whiff of Paganini. A bassist is also at hand where he alternately plays keys, a very small maracas-type of instrument as designed by Tim Burton, and this instrument that has piano keys in it but one where you blow the side of, to have a mix of accordion sounds and organ. The guys were all dressed in white shirt and red pants serving as overalls (and looking like my waitstaff friends in my fave burrito resto called Bandidos). And what a concert to mount in a small venue! It is like chamber orchestra featuring classical music flourishes, extremely radical change in time signatures, frosty vocals singing ballads one associates Lee Wiley to be singing, and electronica and noise that just blends seamlessly. Sometimes I think St. Vincent learned from Scratch masters like GrandWizard Theodore because of the way she integrates those sounds to her music pallette. As I am not familiar with all the songs, I realized it is much better to experience it first on a live setting. After all wasn't it Aaron Copland who once said that live music's draw is its unpredictable element, so essential in keeping music truly alive but which dies with the second playing of a record. All the musicians that I have heard recently seems to coaslesce with St. Vincent's sound. And I may have to conjure their names just to approximate St. Vincent's music. She shares Leslie Feist's full-rounded and smoky vocals that are best heard luxuriating in the low notes, to Sufjan Stevens' almost orchestral approach to music, to Leah Callahan's Kurt Weill-esque arrangements to songs. But she can shriek like a banshee this side of Siouxsie Sioux and be like Over The Rhine's Karin Bergquist when lazily and attractively prolonging a tone. I think key to her music is how I get reminded of other musicians by a mere run of the notes, the sudden explosion of shoe-taps and how her seemingly fragile hands seem to go this way and that way in the electric guitar in an almost delicate manner like My Brightest Diamond's Shara Worden and make it sound like a killer riff that I heard from people as diverse as Jack Rose to Sharon Isbin. She may appear like she is an amalgam of all of these artists, but in summoning their music, she managed to win me over by not coming out like a copycat. Plus she lacks this studied facility that I have seen in other artists when wowing the audience. She thanked all of us for coming at least ten times that night and was almost unbelieving that she has now an audience and that her CD is being sold in "the ether and not at the back of my minivan". But the one thing that I noticed during that night is how the songs flow into another like songs in a disc that does not have formal ends and stops to usher the next song. While tuning her guitar, she would hum a tune as though singing to herself and the band picks it up right away. Almost no interruptions, except to say thanks to her cheering fans when the applause grew louder than she expected. And speaking of fans, the people inside the venue has 2/3 male, white and not seemingly college students. But as I am basing this observation from a quick profiling I learned (and desperately want to unlearn) in school, I may still get my demographics wrong. Her encore is a Billie Holiday-esque "What Me Worry?" -- alone onstage with her beautiful if fragile self and her guitar. If she comes to your town, do see her before she becomes hugely famous and will only be booked in larger venues. Her keen musicality, originality and humility are a rarity. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: xbxrx - Eighth War _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:50:56 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: njc I got runned over by the Truckers Bob, thanks so much for the review of Drive By Truckers! I keep hearing good, better, and better things about them and am thrilled they are going to be with Betty LaVette on her new CD! I can't wait to hear that! Yes, I do remember how she brought down the house at Carnegie Hall! It was amazing!This digest is full of good reviews today! Also, "Heavenly Eyes" is also my favorite song of Victor's as well! Love, Sherelle Bob wrote: I won't go into a lot of detail about the DBT show last night, mostly because I'm still recovering from not getting in until 2:30 AM, but it was spectacular. They got cranked up about 10:15 after an enjoyable warm up by Warm In The Wake. They started with a 30-minute all-acoustic set which was very nice but the PACKED house was definitely ready to rock, and once Patterson, Cooley, Shona and their new guitarist (who tore it up on electric & pedal steel) plugged in, there was no turning back. It was their typical 3-hour extravaganza, the crowd was really into it, the staff was making sure nobody lit up, which I really appreciated, and there was a minimum of cell phones waving in the air taking pics and making movies, also a good thing. Anyway, I wasn't going to post about the show but I see that the Truckers are going to be backing up the EXCELLENT Bettye LaVette on her new CD coming out in September. Bettye, as some of you will remember, brought down the Carnegie Hall crowd with her take on "Last Chance Lost", and her last CD was also wonderful. This release is coming out on the Anti- label, so that also bodes well as Anti- typically lets artists (like Tom Waits) follow their own vision. If you want to read more about it: http://www.marketwire.com/2.0/release.do?id=737823&sourceType=1 As for the Truckers themselves, their new one drops in January. Should be a nice way to get 2008 started. Bob NP: Victor Johnson, "Heavenly Eyes" (my personal fave on Parsonage Lane) PS: Alison, Cooley even dedicated one song to his "woman in SLC" - was he talking about you? _________________________________________________________________ http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:26:56 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE: Bill Moyers Journal NJC Bill Moyers is so broadly informed & deeply intelligent. I enjoyed the speech you sent Vince. I loved the series, long ago, where he interviewed Joseph Campbell (actually it was less of an interview, more like to very well versed men having a brilliant discussion). I hope you & others will take time to view the broadcast I sent. He interviews two brilliant men & actually gives voice (as devils advocate I suppose) against impeachment. It is not a partisan discussion, but a deeply knowledgeable one about our constitution. Both the legislative branch & the fourth estate are taken to task for not doing their jobs. It isn't just about ranting against the executive branch. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:10:11 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Joni & Jaco - now with photos! njc Thanks for the links to Jaco Pastorius' place, Bene. I enjoyed viewing the family side of Jaco, which I had never seen before. All I knew of him, really, was by word of mouth, news clippings, and from this book I bought, of which his mother had some input into it, along with the author. The book and other sources usually paint him as the tradegian: a hard time, hard living, hard core, as well as an intense, innovative, intelligent and extremely gifted musician, as well, and sadly, about the disastrous case of Jaco's death. If you go to his site, click on and there you will see a letter written to his two little sons, 21 years ago, nearly to the date, and most probably written on a sunny Sunday, too, which shows the tender side of the man, husband, and father. j. missblux@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Jerry! I went to Ingrid's website (at first your message confused me because I did not know his wife's name was Ingrid!), there is an interview where someone says Jahco.... But let's see what she says! Yaco is my invention I'm sure, it's like the many years I couldn't find CDs by Louis Jordan because I had changed his name to Gordon... I found two pics of Joni on his site: http://jacop.net/joniherbie.html http://jacop.net/joni_jaco.html Best Bene On 7/13/07, Jerry Notaro wrote: > I've written to Ingrid and asked for the correct pronunciation. She is very > good about responding to correspondence. > > Jerry > > > > > > Hey Mark, > > > > I thought I had heard Joni saying Yako in some interview, and that it > > had to do with his Finnish roots. But I wonder now if in fact she said > > "Jahco", and I added the rest, just because I noticed it doesn't rhyme > > with wacko.... I guess you are right! > > > > Benedicte > > > > On 7/12/07, Mark-Leon Thorne wrote: > >> Bene, I have been pronouncing it, "Jacko". The J is hard in English > >> and, since he was raised in the USA, I assumed it to be pronounced that > >> way. > >> > >> One area where Americans differ from Australians is on vowels. > >> Americans use long vowel sounds. Australians defer to the short vowel > >> sound usually. Therefore, "Jacko". Americans may pronounce it "Jahco". > >> Can the Americans confirm this? > >> > >> Mark in Sydney > >> > >> NP Morphing Thru Time - Enigma - --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:20:11 +0100 From: colin Subject: Anecdote Thought you lot might like this sent to me from a knitting friend; Hi Colin, It's your golden aged Canadian friend here again. Your comment on Joni Mitchell prompted me to bore you with a "once upon a time" tale from my childhood. When I was a little girl growing up in Saskatchewan Joni Mitchell was in my Brownie pack. She was Joan (Joany) Anderson then, and I remember she was very talented artistically. I don't remember her singing, or composing, but she drew and painted far beyond her years. I remember that she was ill, and spent months in bed one year (? perhaps rheumatic fever?), the whole Brownie pack went and sang Christmas Carols outside her bedroom window. And that's about as close as I ever came to fame and fortune!!! We grew up, went separate ways, and I never saw her again. As a young woman, with wee children, my mom and I had tea with Mrs. Anderson a few times before Mom moved to Victoria, B.C. I've always liked Joni's music, but I'm ashamed to say I do not own any of her recordings. I have very little in my collection that was written after 1850. :-) - -- bw colin www.colinknits.blogspot.com/ www.designyourownsweater.blogspot.com www.tantra-apso.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:24:10 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Anecdote Great little story-right from the horse's mouth, so to speak. The disease was polio, which her countryman Neil Young also suffered from as a child. Colin, I've wondered where you went-it's been ages since you checked in. RR > Thought you lot might like this sent to me from a knitting friend; > When I was a little girl growing up in Saskatchewan Joni Mitchell was in > my Brownie pack. She was Joan (Joany) Anderson then, and I remember she > was very talented artistically. I don't remember her singing, or > composing, but she drew and painted far beyond her years. > > I remember that she was ill, and spent months in bed one year (? perhaps > rheumatic fever?), the whole Brownie pack went and sang Christmas Carols > outside her bedroom window. And that's about as close as I ever came to > fame and fortune!!! We grew up, went separate ways, and I never saw her > again. > > As a young woman, with wee children, my mom and I had tea with Mrs. > Anderson a few times before Mom moved to Victoria, B.C. > > I've always liked Joni's music, but I'm ashamed to say I do not own any > of her recordings. I have very little in my collection that was written > after 1850. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:24:13 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: NJC Farm Aid!! NJC/NYC Hey, Monika! I was on two Neil Young mailing lists for a couple of years, set-up just like this Joni-list. I eventually moved on to Warren Zevon, when his son, Jordan, set up a website we could post on after he died on 09/07/03. It was fun and we laughed and mourned, with that certain sense of morbidity Warren lived his life with, and his death always hovering, sort of a happy Edgar Allen Poe style---not nearly as dark, though. He' would have been laughing from heaven at us at some of the stuff we wrote! When people are in pain, the theatrical energies of heaven and earth are soaring. We surely missed him sorely after he took his final ride home. That WZ website was mostly there for comforting and consulting conversations. Thanks to Jordan and his sister, Ariel. His last albums are, "My Ride's Here and Genius," written when he knew he had mesolothemia that was eating him alive, so there's lots of bitter-sweet tinges of love and life coming to an end. I still cry, like right now, when I think. After that, I stopped listening to new music, basically just my old stuff once in a while, and felt out of tune with the music scene and felt completely dry creatively---UNTIL, I took the night ride home to Joni's place here. Well, getting back to Neil's place, there had to have been about 20 or more Cinnamon Girls when ou would check out the member's list. Cinnamon Girl1, Cinnamon Girl4U, Cinnamon Gir2002 and on and on. I wanted to be the Cinnamon Girl, too, because of my heritage and the little cinnamon tinge to my skin. Too many cinnamon girls for me, though, so I settled for being Pocohantas because there were no others. There was so much fussin' and fightin' and jealousy there that I got accused of wanting to have Neil to sleep with, so I changed my list name to NY Gal and there were all sorts of hassles because NY confused then with NYC. I switched over then to NJ Gal and I got accused of wanting Bruce Springsteen. Geez, I should have used Cherokee Louise now that think about it. I met Neil at a meet and greet. I told him I was writing at the stupid, insane Santana Cafe and he told me to tell them, "Don't Spook the Horse," or something right along those lines. Neil's cool in person when you meet him. His eyes are a beautiful color and my eyes connected with his for a few seconds with some sort of electricity, which my sister, the men beside him and a few fans at the meet and greet caught on and everybody was smiling like we were little kids. We all felt that sense of wonder we feel as little kids at that moment of time back in 1999. jeannie NPIMH: Red Sky ~Bob Dylan~ For Monika! There was a little boy And there was a little girl And they lived in the alley Under the red sky There was a little Boy And there was little Girl And they lived in the alley Under the Red Sun One day, little girl Everything for you Is gonna be new One day, little girl You'll have a diamong as big as your shoe. Motitan@aol.com wrote: Oh, my name in the voting is Cinnamon Girl aka Monika (some folks from MySpace know me as "Cinnamon Girl" as that used to be my MySpace name...some still refer to me as that though I've changed my MySpace name a hundred times since then....) and I'm the girl in the black&white photo wearing sunglasses about to strum her electric guitar in front of a Marshall amp....I'm not sure how my entry will show so I thought I'd give you a heads up. I don't see my entry listed yet though....(I also mention being 22 as part of my entry).... - -Monika Thanks! ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour - --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 18:32:58 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: Anecdote Colin!!!! It's good to see you post something on the list after being gone so long. We sure miss you, and thanks for sharing your friend's story about Joni as a child. always bw Jimmy ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:36:35 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: Anecdote ditto here too colin. good to hear from a you and hope your health is well. take care gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Remote" To: "colin" ; "_JMDL" Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: Anecdote > Great little story-right from the horse's mouth, so to speak. > The disease was polio, which her countryman Neil Young > also suffered from as a child. > Colin, I've wondered where you went-it's been ages since > you checked in. > RR > >> Thought you lot might like this sent to me from a knitting friend; > >> When I was a little girl growing up in Saskatchewan Joni Mitchell was in >> my Brownie pack. She was Joan (Joany) Anderson then, and I remember she >> was very talented artistically. I don't remember her singing, or >> composing, but she drew and painted far beyond her years. >> >> I remember that she was ill, and spent months in bed one year (? perhaps >> rheumatic fever?), the whole Brownie pack went and sang Christmas Carols >> outside her bedroom window. And that's about as close as I ever came to >> fame and fortune!!! We grew up, went separate ways, and I never saw her >> again. >> >> As a young woman, with wee children, my mom and I had tea with Mrs. >> Anderson a few times before Mom moved to Victoria, B.C. >> >> I've always liked Joni's music, but I'm ashamed to say I do not own any >> of her recordings. I have very little in my collection that was written >> after 1850. :-) > > !DSPAM:144,469aa0ec9511950616695! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:19:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Anecdote NJC For some wacky reason I didn't get Colin's original message, but I would like to join in the chorus of "welcome back"'s. Glad to see your name again, Colin - you've been missed. Bob NP: Joni, "Born To Take The Highway" - --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:58:08 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Anecdote NJC I didn't get the original message either, but I truly enjoyed reading the little story. I've always been interested in Joni's childhood days. I had a little book when Joni must have been in 7th grade or somewhere around there. She's always been so pretty. It's the only picture I've seen of her as a child other than the photo-illustration on the cover of DJRD. That's all I know, really, other than her polio and the images that come to my mind when she sings about Mama and Papa. Also, on her first album, I've always thought it was so endearing of Joni for remembering her Grandma, Mrs. McGee on the album credits.. Does anyone know if they ever called Joni, "Roberta?" And about polio, didn't Cat Stevens have polio, too? I can't remember if it was polio or some other illness, but I do know he was close to death as a young boy and on his long recovery in bed is the time he credits his creativity's budding & blossoming. jean Bob Muller wrote: For some wacky reason I didn't get Colin's original message, but I would like to join in the chorus of "welcome back"'s. Glad to see your name again, Colin - you've been missed. Bob NP: Joni, "Born To Take The Highway" - --------------------------------- Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. - --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:37:04 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Bill Moyers Journal NJC ----> Impeach! Kate shared: A brilliant discussion on impeachment (45% of US citizens are in favor of this) & IMO, a must watch for all- Tough Talk on Impeachment http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07132007/profile.html Thanks, Kate! I second the motion. I caught most of this the other night. I just wish they'd take all of this talk about impeachment now to 60 Minutes, 20/20, Dateline, and all those other shows that more Americans watch. Most PBSers are already singing in the upstairs impeachment choir, I daresay. The chorus grows. The more voices on it the better, and the more out-of-tune (Republican) voices, the better. Some snippets from: http://www.impeachbush.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr011=j4unh4gji3.app1b&page=NewsArticle&id=5195&news_iv_ctrl=1041 "Support for impeachment growing...in new places The people have spoken, but Congress has failed to answer. When push came to shove, the Democratic party establishment decided to fund the war effort without condition. Their decision is in direct contradiction with the majority of the country, which is against the war and the Bush administration by a large and ever-growing margin. But rather than be turned away, that majority has decidedly stepped up to the plate. Just over the last month, the impeachment movement and antiwar movement have expanded their organizing efforts and increased their visibility. On May 23, Bush was the featured speaker at the commencement ceremony of the Coast Guard Academy in New London, CT. In response the people of New London and surrounding areas came out in force, displaying impeachment and anti-war signs and banners directly outside the Academy. Local police and members of the press estimated that 1,000 protesters came out -- a remarkable number considering the fact that the protest took place on a Wednesday morning, and that New London hasn't been home to any such protests since the 1980s......" I was there. Great energy! As we marched the mile and a half up to the Coast Guard Academy, I turned around to see a long line of people -- A thousand people in the street Singing songs and carrying signs Mostly say, hooray for our side Actually, we had to stay on the sidewalks, and you could see a seemingly endless stream of people. Very uplifting. I was thinking of the line in the movie Field of Dreams: "If you build it, they will come." "...This is an important stage in the development of the impeachment and anti-war movements. Big national protests are important displays of unity and strength, but our success requires that the impeachment message be felt not only in the big cities, but in every neighborhood across the country...." Let it grow, let it grow. Oh, and speaking of "big national protests", put Sept. 15th in DC on your calendars. More info to follow. Bush has dug his heels in halfway to hell, and there is no doubt that he ain't gonna budge. And since he is "The Decider", we can't wait seventeen more months, imo. How many more deaths? Impeach them both -- the Decider AND the Evil "Go F#$K Yourself" Puppetmaster. You know two impeachments are better than one. Peace, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:41:19 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Farm Aid!! NJC/NYC Wow, that sounds absolutely wonderful! Your meeting with Neil I mean...thank you for sharing your story! I've only seen Neil up on a stage with a few of his buddies (and sometimes not so buddy-buddy) Crosby, Stills, and Nash or on my tv screen. I do visit some Neil websites though... I'm sorry to hear about your pain after the passing of Warren Zevon. It must have been real hard but you know you will always have the music. That's the greatest gift of all. It is the gift that never stops giving. I know how you feel or atleast can guess. I was pretty down after George Harrison passed away back in 2001. I still remember the day....but all things must pass. - -Monika NP: Think For Yourself- Beatles ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:14:55 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc most confident about (I had a dream about joni last night.. . I have dreampt about her about 4 times total now. . ) The dream: I was with my two friends and we were hanging out with Joni (!) and joni was giving us things that she had. . . . . then scene two: my other girlfriend (joanie's) 16 year old daughter was driving me in her car and I was trying to explain to her about how it is to be with Joni . . . and I said to her "imagine being with the artist/songwriter you love the most who writes the best songs and the best music . . who you absolutely love. . . . " something like that. . another subject: What is one thing you feel most confident about? a skill a thought a belief etc. . . anything XO Marianne _________________________________________________________________ http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:31:17 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: njc most confident about In a message dated 7/15/2007 10:20:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, treegreen1@hotmail.com writes: What is one thing you feel most confident about? - ---------------------------------------- Ooh, I love dreams! Though they don't always have to mean something (sometimes just left over scraps) I like to analyze them nonetheless. Many intriguing things tend to happen after you hit your pillow at night. Sometimes I wish the dream world was the real world.... Anyhow, in answer to your question, I am most confident that everything works out in the end. Shit happens, it always does and always will, but in the midst of turmoil or trouble, always in the the back of my mind, is the comfort that the fog will clear. I always KNOW, not think, that everything will turn around and work out the way it is supposed to. I suppose when the shit hits the fan I am waiting for that turn...and when others are complaining about their own troubles I always tell them not to worry. I always tell them that everything will work out the way it is supposed to....regardless.....it just always does... - -Monika ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:39:35 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: women in film njc you will really like this: Women in fILM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEc4YWICeXk _________________________________________________________________ Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=club_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:49:36 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: St. Vincent - NJC Cher Joseph and all: Baby, I'm amazed at your post and all the musicians you reference. I must confess that I have never heard of most of them (I hope "humble makes pure"), so I have to thank you for educating me. I don't know what the future holds for you after your PhD, but I humbly suggest, and hope, that you will always be a teacher. Maybe head of Film Studies at JMU! You know, life is for learning. Your posts always remind me of something my Music History professor once said, that really stuck with me. "It's what you know that exposes you to a miracle." In other words, the more you know about something (nature, science, music, films, whatever....), the more you can appreciate it. Your knowledge of film and music astounds me. Sorry, I don't mean to make you blush. Oh, what the hell. Since you're already blushing, I'll add that you you ain't bad looking, and I like the way you hold your drinks in the Citigroup Cafe and Seppi's. And yes, I have put "Paris, Je T'aime" on my list of films to see. Hey, I know. Make my life easier and just send me a syllabus! Love and peace, Patti P. Anyone on the List digging Annie Clark a.k.a. St. Vincent? I first heard her via a good review of her debut album "Marry Me" from the New York Times. Then I read about her some more in allmusic.com. She was compared to Feist for their passionate love for sound imageries and old-fashioned vocals that veer towards torch singing. And she was said to have toured with Sufjan Stevens as part of his insect-dressed musicians. So in essence I must have seen Annie Clark already when Sufjan performed in Chapel Hill early last year. Imagine my surprise when I saw a poster around town announcing that she is performing at Local 506 -- a smoke-filled concert venue in the Chapel Hill-Carrboro crosswalk which I frequent. So last night, after watching a good movie (do catch "Golden Door" a.k.a. Nuovomondo -- very magical-surrealist-realist-mythical-____ (insert fave description)), I headed to Local 506 to catch the late show. And man, what a sonic experience! First of all, she looked like a cross between former Azure Ray member Maria Taylor and actress Annabella Sciorra, but she sounded closer to Nina Nastasia. She was dressed in something that's hard for me to describe without resorting to weird parallels. She had on some translucent black stockings/leggings and she wore this one-piece dress that kinda looks like a loose tubular shirt you wear when you go to sleep. It reminded me both of those 80s outfits of female singers with frizzy hair and with slightly futuristic accoutrements. The backing band features a drummer of such intensity that for some anachronistic reason, I thought I can see him wear a suit and morph into 1940s-era Gene Krupa! Then a violinist who chose to play more raga-type of stylings with a whiff of Paganini. A bassist is also at hand where he alternately plays keys, a very small maracas-type of instrument as designed by Tim Burton, and this instrument that has piano keys in it but one where you blow the side of, to have a mix of accordion sounds and organ. The guys were all dressed in white shirt and red pants serving as overalls (and looking like my waitstaff friends in my fave burrito resto called Bandidos). And what a concert to mount in a small venue! It is like chamber orchestra featuring classical music flourishes, extremely radical change in time signatures, frosty vocals singing ballads one associates Lee Wiley to be singing, and electronica and noise that just blends seamlessly. Sometimes I think St. Vincent learned from Scratch masters like GrandWizard Theodore because of the way she integrates those sounds to her music pallette. As I am not familiar with all the songs, I realized it is much better to experience it first on a live setting. After all wasn't it Aaron Copland who once said that live music's draw is its unpredictable element, so essential in keeping music truly alive but which dies with the second playing of a record. All the musicians that I have heard recently seems to coaslesce with St. Vincent's sound. And I may have to conjure their names just to approximate St. Vincent's music. She shares Leslie Feist's full-rounded and smoky vocals that are best heard luxuriating in the low notes, to Sufjan Stevens' almost orchestral approach to music, to Leah Callahan's Kurt Weill-esque arrangements to songs. But she can shriek like a banshee this side of Siouxsie Sioux and be like Over The Rhine's Karin Bergquist when lazily and attractively prolonging a tone. I think key to her music is how I get reminded of other musicians by a mere run of the notes, the sudden explosion of shoe-taps and how her seemingly fragile hands seem to go this way and that way in the electric guitar in an almost delicate manner like My Brightest Diamond's Shara Worden and make it sound like a killer riff that I heard from people as diverse as Jack Rose to Sharon Isbin. She may appear like she is an amalgam of all of these artists, but in summoning their music, she managed to win me over by not coming out like a copycat. Plus she lacks this studied facility that I have seen in other artists when wowing the audience. She thanked all of us for coming at least ten times that night and was almost unbelieving that she has now an audience and that her CD is being sold in "the ether and not at the back of my minivan". But the one thing that I noticed during that night is how the songs flow into another like songs in a disc that does not have formal ends and stops to usher the next song. While tuning her guitar, she would hum a tune as though singing to herself and the band picks it up right away. Almost no interruptions, except to say thanks to her cheering fans when the applause grew louder than she expected. And speaking of fans, the people inside the venue has 2/3 male, white and not seemingly college students. But as I am basing this observation from a quick profiling I learned (and desperately want to unlearn) in school, I may still get my demographics wrong. Her encore is a Billie Holiday-esque "What Me Worry?" -- alone onstage with her beautiful if fragile self and her guitar. If she comes to your town, do see her before she becomes hugely famous and will only be booked in larger venues. Her keen musicality, originality and humility are a rarity. Joseph in Chapel Hill np: xbxrx - Eighth War _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #270 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------