From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #255 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, July 5 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 255 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Patriotic Expressions on this day of Independence...(NJC...But very crucial...) ["Lance A. Michel" ] NJC njc, mind and heart ===> heart and mind! [missblux@googlemail.com] More Stills, sjc ["Laurent Olszer" ] njc The girl in the cafe ["Marianne Rizzo" ] for the roses ["Michel BYRNE" ] Re: For the Roses? [Dave Blackburn ] Bearded Dragon Lizzard [LCStanley7@aol.com] Politics NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Hy Zaret, 99; wrote words to 'Unchained Melody' njc, now high on a windy hill ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: njc, 4th of July: Peace -- and dissent -- is patriotic ["Sherelle Sm] Re: njc, a gift for Deadheads [jeannie ] njc, a gift for Deadheads now JMU ["Patti Parlette" ] Re: Doc's Liquid Pills/Brand New Ills now w/ your choice of artificial flavorings :P [jeannie ] Re: Bearded Dragon Lizzard njc [Catherine McKay ] Subject: For the Roses? ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Joni Tribute Album [jeannie ] Your "Joni" theme song? [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Fw: Politics NJC [Doug ] Re: Fw: Politics NJC ["gene" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 03:54:36 -0400 From: "Lance A. Michel" Subject: RE: Patriotic Expressions on this day of Independence...(NJC...But very crucial...) This speaks very much for itself... I hope this find all of you Healthy and Well... Happy 4th!! - --The Revolution WILL be televised!! Much Love to you all and Be Well... "Give Trees a Chance"....Sir Lance - --Bring our Troops Home!-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGq7mqkDJ7E ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:15:40 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: For the Roses? From what I understand, Dave, For The Roses refers to the Roses Tournament horse races. There are references to horse racing and maybe Joni was commenting on show business being like a horse race with trophies for success. Just a stab in the dark. Mark in Sydney NW National Nine News; Australians involved in terrorist attacks in London and Glasgow, cashless motorways, Radio star dying, pay rises, Annual leave for community service... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:05:20 +0200 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC njc, mind and heart ===> heart and mind! They've got it all wrong, I read that Chelsea is named after 'Chelsea morning'. Then Hilary goes and picks a song by Celine Dion for her campaign. Yuck! BN (lightyears behind on digests, am reading them backwards now...) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 04:06:41 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, mind and heart ===> heart and mind! I had to pop back in to say that I just heard Bill Clinton on the news, saying: "Politics is a matter of mind and heart." Bill, Bill, Bill! Sheesh! It's "heart and mind", Bill. Get the Joni sequencing/order down right! Pleasant dreamland, Patti P. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:01:59 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: More Stills, sjc Hi There's a new Stephen Stills on DIME, from Boulder, Colorado June 28, 2007 I've listened to several gigs from this tour and this seems to be a killer show. Loose atmosphere, the song versions are different, more long psychedelic intros. To me only the greats can play so many concerts and make significant changes each time (just try listening to Jimi's songs and you'll never hear it twice the same). Even "Woodstock" includes the riff from Jumpin' Jack Flash this time. Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:11:59 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: njc The girl in the cafe I am enjoying the political posts. . Patti, Jeanne and everyone who is responding. . . I saw a movie last night that I liked: "The girl in the cafe" it may be a movie that will be forgotten. . . but it is worth watching. . . and it has some reverent political content. . Marianne _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:45:16 +0000 From: "Michel BYRNE" Subject: for the roses To add another, more tongue-in-cheek (but ultimately serious) layer of meaning, I'm sure in one interview (possibly the 1979 Rolling Stone one) Joni mentioned that 'for the roses' was also meant to suggest dung (dropped by the horse!) - the crap found in the industry, but which can still nurture the roses. The gatefold picture in the same humorous vein was her mooning at the industry! M _________________________________________________________________ Win tickets to the sold out Live Earth concert! http://liveearth.uk.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:53:56 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: For the Roses? Fascinating! And how fitting that there should be that classic Joni ironic kicker behind the surface! Thanks for the backstory. On Jul 4, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Doug wrote: > She explains it in the 1972 Carnegie Hall concert. It refers to a > wreath of flowers thrown > to the winning horse at the racetrack and "then one day they take > him out and shoot him" (the winning horse). > > Doug > > > > Dave Blackburn wrote: >> So.... For the Roses, the song, is clearly about the music biz >> and addressed I believe to James Taylor. So can anyone explain >> the title? >> >> Perhaps as Joni sat in her garden in B.C roses were in front of >> her as she wrote the song and it seemed as good a title as any, >> but then... >> >> could it be that (in true Joni double layered meaning) that one >> performs music and endures all the music biz crap for nothing >> more than the bunch of roses that often gets handed the diva >> after a brilliant show? In other words, that's about as much >> satisfaction as there is in all this: a bunch of roses. >> >> Any other theories? >> >> >> Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:18:48 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Bearded Dragon Lizzard Hi Ya'll, I've been traveling in some vehicle north and seeing JMDLers along the way. Met up with a bearded dragon lizard named Lizzie who is into Joni. He loves Coyote. Came up close to me in his terrarium, got up on a rock and tipped his hole ear at me while I was playing the song. Played him Sisotowbell Lane and Ladies of the Canyon too. He loves that tuning. Next stop, Toronto, for dinner with Catherine. My oldest son and his friend are going to see The White Stripes in concert there. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:51:28 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Politics NJC Yes...Bush commuted Libby's sentence...and will probably pardon him. But now the left thinks perjury is such a terrible thing ...but thought it wasn't so bad when Clinton lied. (he admitted he lied under oath) Now the right ...it is sort of excusable. IT is all politics....and both sides play the game very well. So everybody...keep your powder dry...the State Of The Union....is ok....it is just more politics. You know....the president of the United States lied under oath...certainly a lowly aide won't upset the apple cart too badly? Oh..and Hillary's outrage...give me a blankin break... take a look at Bill's last day in office....way over hundred pardons...commutations... Outraged...google the name Mark Rich....Bush doesn't seem quite as bad.... Bree _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:01:45 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: Hy Zaret, 99; wrote words to 'Unchained Melody' njc, now high on a windy hill DL and RR wrote: >Holy merde! You know that song---High on a Windy Hill, by >Zaret/North/Whitney? > > > DL No- I just meant I've *been* high on a windy hill.... tho I 'm sure it's a lovely tune. **** LOL, RR! And now it's me, PP, a little bit corny, a wildflower waving for you from another high and windy hill: At the risk of embarrassing myself once again (the cheese stands alone) I have to share that when I first read that song title, this is what popped into my head: Frank Sinatra - Love Is A Many-Splendored Thing Lyrics (S. Fain, P.F. Webster) [Recorded January 28, 1964, Los Angeles] Love is a many-splendored thing, It's the April rose that only grows in the early spring, Love is nature's way of giving a reason to be living, The golden crown that makes a man a king. Lost on a high and windy hill, In the morning mist two lovers kissed and the world stood still, When our fingers touch my silent heart has taught us how to sing, Yes, true love's a many-splendored thing. Ha. I even remember standing on a high and windy hill in a park in Paris, France -- oops -- I mean, a park in Stamford, CT (Cummings Park, I think it was), singing this to a boy (in absentia) whom I had a big crush on in 6th grade, when all the hormones and love wires start lashing out at you. Joey Mish. I really thought it was "amour, mama!" But back to Mr. Zaret: he also co-wrote the Andrews Sisters' novelty song "One Meat Ball"? I've never heard that one. I love Maxene, Patty and Laverne. Hot ginger and dynamite! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SraRU5oD17c Love, Patti P., wasting away my lunchhour again in Jonimitchellville _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:08:25 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Fw: Politics NJC - ----- Original Message ----- From: "gene" To: "Bree Mcdonough" Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Politics NJC > hello bree, your logic is great. there is no right or wrong, just degrees > of right or wrong. bill's had over a hundred pardons, bush just one ---so > gw can't be all that bad. > let's see hitler killed millions, but oswald just killed(?) just one > person, jfk------so he can't be all that bad. i guess it's okay for > public officials to lie to the elected public. then gw can't be all that > bad. it's okay to keep secrets from the public, after all, we're much to > busy with our lives to worry about the big stuff. gw can't be all that > bad. hell, it's okay to have our rights suspended and our privacy > invaded---after we haven't had a repeat of 9/11----gw can't be all that > bad. thanks for the enlightenment, gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bree Mcdonough" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:51 AM > Subject: Politics NJC > > >> Yes...Bush commuted Libby's sentence...and will probably pardon him. But >> now the left thinks perjury is such a terrible thing ...but thought it >> wasn't so bad when Clinton lied. (he admitted he lied under oath) >> Now the right ...it is sort of excusable. IT is all politics....and >> both sides play the game very well. >> >> So everybody...keep your powder dry...the State Of The Union....is >> ok....it is just more politics. You know....the president of the United >> States lied under oath...certainly a lowly aide won't upset the apple >> cart too badly? >> >> Oh..and Hillary's outrage...give me a blankin break... >> >> take a look at Bill's last day in office....way over hundred >> pardons...commutations... >> >> Outraged...google the name Mark Rich....Bush doesn't seem quite as >> bad.... >> >> Bree >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> http://liveearth.msn.com >> >> !DSPAM:144,468d308181871524588567! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:34:41 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: njc, 4th of July: Peace -- and dissent -- is patriotic Hi, No, you are not the only one who is outraged. I don't want to get partisan because I don't think things like this should be done with any president. I keep hearing on TV, "Well what about the Democrats? Blah, blah, blah..." and "Well what about the Republicans? Blah, blah, blah..." I have to ask, "Well what about just doing the right thing?" One's party affiliation shouldn't excuse or accuse. In the end, a person just does the right thing or the wrong thing. My biggest sadness with President Bush is that he really doesn't care what anyone else thinks, anyone being his constituents.To me, he is like a spoled child who screamed, "Gimme, gimme, gimme the White House..."and he got it. I just don't believe that this is the way representation is really supposed to go. I feel left out, left behind and cast aside by him and my heart is broken over it. My heart is broken for our country because it's full of people who feel they don't matter anymore. I don't hate the president, but I certainly do hate what he's done. It doesn't matter if he's a republican or a democrat, he just doesn't seem to care about my opinion. He promised that he would try to be a president for all of the people and asked me to give him a chance. I did. But as I look, I see and feel that it was just a bunch of empty words and I am personally hurt by it. I have a friend from Denmark and if I have my facts straight, the leader of her country listened to the heart of the people who did not wish to be in this Iraq war and withdrew the troops. Whether you feel that was right or wrong is open to debate but what broke my heart is the fact that her leader actually listened to his/her constituents. I think that is where my sadness lies. I'm not trying to bash Bush or be partisan. I'm just telling you that my heart is broken over the inability of my president to listen to his people. Thanks for letting me get that out. That's probably all I'm going to say on the matter but had to speak up for my buddy Patti.... Love, Sherelle Randy and Patti wrote: Patti, Patti, Patti... the law doesn't apply to us. - - -George Bush >I can't be the only one here who is outraged that Bush has commuted Libby's >sentence. > Love & Peace, > >Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:04:12 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: njc, a gift for Deadheads I wish I had experienced Jerry Garcia grooving along with the Grateful Dead. Damnation!! That was another world I had never entered. I was too young to have been part of the SF scene. Even though as an 11 and 12 year old kid in San Antonio, I always carried obsessively this great desire to hitch-hike like a hippie to SF. I guess I just wasn't scuffle enough and I felt I always had to compensate for missing those days I so longed to experience and be part of. I had an acquaintance who was a super-dooper, serious GD fan to the core around 10 years older and longer more lovlier hair than Willie Nelson's...a tried and true hippie, big-time. He turned me on and I heard in absolute amazement all that which this article describes the fans enthusiasm and musical experiences had with the band. Had I entered this world, I would have had to leave Joni's world because it is hard time, serious music with a divine beauty stamp of it's own that no other band could reproduce and that takes alot of time and dedication to enter, experience and grow with. It's another stratum. Being a serious Joni fan as I am has taken many years and thousands upon thousands of hours of the most introspective type of mental and emotional work I have ever experienced. I would never change one thing when it comes to Joni's work. I'm glad where I'm at, now more than ever. Hey Patti, if there were a Joni Mitchell University, what positions do you think you and me would hold? I wonder if I'd have a PhD? Maybe! I know you would. I nominate you for president! President Patti Parlette of the Joni Mitchell University. It has a really nice Joni tinge along the lovely white laced linen themes. Lovingly, jeannie - --- Patti Parlette wrote: > Bon soir, encore une fois! > > Ain't It Crazy - A Symphony Of `Dead' Songs > By JOHN ROGERS | Associated Press > July 1, 2007 > > It may be the longest, strangest trip the Grateful > Dead's music has endured > - a performance by a symphony orchestra under the > baton of a classical > composer. > > "The Grateful Dead embodied such a huge swath of the > late 20th century ... > that they are just a wonderful place from which to > have a symphony in which > you can explore and come out with a response to > American popular culture," > says Johnson. His composition: "Dead Symphony No. 6: > An Orchestral Tribute > to the Grateful Dead." > > The work, assembled from nearly a dozen songs and > recorded by the Russian > National Orchestra, was released as a download in > May and on CD on Tuesday. > > Although a basic five-chord rock 'n' roll band, the > Grateful Dead's > multiple-time signatures, harmonies and rhythms have > had its fans swearing > for decades that they could hear the sounds of > Beethoven and other classical > composers echoing throughout the music. > > No one took them very seriously, apparently, until > Johnson; perhaps, he > says, because adapting the music to a classical > format was no simple task. > If there was one constant in the Grateful Dead's > 2,500 concerts, it was that > the band - partial to long, experimental jams - > rarely played the same song > the same way twice. > > "How do you transform that into an orchestra that > lives not in the moment > but off the page?" he asked. > > In the case of a movement based on the song "Stella > Blue," Johnson told the > Russian National Orchestra to do what the Grateful > Dead would do - > improvise. > > "They were primed and ready," the Emmy-winning > composer recalled with a > laugh as he spoke by phone recently from his home in > Atlanta. "I explained > what we wanted to try to do. They politely listened, > nodded their heads and > off they went." > > For the other movements, he struck a more > conventional classical tone. The > result: sections based on songs like "Sugar > Magnolia," "Bird Song," and > "China Doll" will be instantly recognizable to those > familiar with the > music. Others, like "Blues for Allah" and "Mountains > of the Moon," not so > much so. > > Johnson - who says he "didn't know any of their > music" when he began working > on the project 10 years ago - has become intimately > familiar with it since. > > The 45-year-old composer - who has written > symphonies, operas, film scores > and other works - was recruited by veteran music > producer Mike Adams, a > longtime Dead fan who thought the group's music > should be preserved in a > form that, he said, "will last 500 or a thousand > years." > > Surviving band members have had little to say about > the project, although > guitarist Bob Weir indicated he was flattered - and > somewhat surprised it > took a classical composer so long to discover the > group's oeuvre. > > "The music of the Grateful Dead was complex, with > intertwining themes of > rhythm and melody, rich harmonic development and > explosive dynamics; the > same stuff one finds in classical music," Weir said. > > Adapting popular tunes to a classical format is > nothing new, said music > historian Joanna Demers of the University of > Southern California. The London > Symphony Orchestra, for example, has performed > Beatles' and Rolling Stones' > songs, and Demers noted that Franz Lizst, Frederic > Chopin and other > composers often took popular tunes of their day and > adapted them into their > own works. > > What is unusual, she added, is to create an entire > symphony based on one pop > band's work. > > Demers wasn't sure, though, whether translating the > band's work to a > classical form would give it a wider audience - or > was even necessary. > > "The Grateful Dead themes that I've liked I kind of > thought were great on > their own, and I'm not sure I would see any room for > improvement," she said. > > But Johnson says he believes American composers have > to delve into pop > culture if they are going to truly reflect the world > around them. > > "It is the one thing that makes anything classical > that comes from this land > unique," he said. > > The Grateful Dead, he adds, was the perfect place to > start. > > "I have a profound admiration and deep respect and > love for what they did, > how long they did it and the fact it was all about > making music," he said of > the group that defied many of popular music's > conventions, shunning > elaborate light shows, costumes and other special > effects. > > "They didn't play games," Johnson said. "They played > music." > > **** > > Music, sweet music..... > > Thinking of all the Dead concerts I attended, w/ > the U.S. Blues, and my old > college roommates and friends and kin and campers in > the kitchen...taking > the Dead albums off of the Duel turntable, replacing > them with Joni.... > > Good vibrations! > > Love & Peace, > > Patti P, fading in a suburban room again > > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:59:12 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, a gift for Deadheads now JMU Jeannie lovingly wrote: Hey Patti, if there were a Joni Mitchell University, what positions do you think you and me would hold? I wonder if I'd have a PhD? Maybe! I know you would. I nominate you for president! President Patti Parlette of the Joni Mitchell University. It has a really nice Joni tinge along the lovely white laced linen themes. **** Thank you, Jeannie, but I must decline your flattering nomination. Not mine, not mine, these presidential gowns. I have too much heart (maybe it's sensitivity) and humour (I'm just another silly girl, when Joni love makes a fool of me) and humility. We need someone more serious and scholarly, methinks. Send us somebody, who's strong and somewhat sincere! Someone who is a musician. Yes, certainly, the President should be a musician. I could handle being a department head or director of a small institute....maybe for the Department of Joni Language, or the Joni Writing Institute, or a Provost for Peace Studies. Maybe our therapists here could head a clinical studies lab for the study and treatment of JMOCD. Another lab for Paranoia and Sensitivity Studies and Poor Eddie Thinking He's Nobody. So many other positions could be filled...Director of the Tree Museum (Marianne, impossibly gentle hands down!), oh there are so many....don't get me started. The Music Dept alone, and sub-departments....The Institute of the Sand and the Sea (Coastal Studies).....Biology of Peridots and Periwinkles.....Banquet & Hospitality Studies.....Empire/Cactus Tree School of Hotel & Motel Management.....Dept. of Fine Arts for Lonely Painters....Director of Cartography/Drawing Maps of Canada (BB, maybe?), Dept. of Theology & Advice & Religion & Gurus, Books & Bibles, The Amelia School of Aeronautics, Sociology of Peoples' Parties, Native American Studies/Ripping Off Indian Land Again, Cosmetology of Painting Eyelids Green, School of Drama and Movie Queens, Agriculture/Hissing Lawn Studies, Mixology Studies for Singapore Slings and Gin's What I'm Drinking, and you know.... And the Library! We *must* have an awesome library. Fiction and non-fiction of course. And the Joni Mitchell Art Institute, absoluement! With all of her work, plus some Van Goghs and Gaugins and O'Keefes and........ And imagine all the dissertation titles! Honors theses, independent study projects, social just-ice groups, clubs, dance halls and cafes in the Student Union, study abroad programs (maybe we'll go to Amersterdam, maybe Rome, Grecian Isles, Paris, Spain....), dorm complexes named after albums, with each dorm named after a song on that album............how do you stop? What position would you like, Jeannie? Being silly, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:45:18 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Doc's Liquid Pills/Brand New Ills now w/ your choice of artificial flavorings :P Was reading this morning's paper over a cup of coffee and some breakfast cookies. Came across a Target ad. Opened it up to check out the electronics sales. There's a picture of a medicine bottle nearly 1/4 of the page large. It says, Now, FREE at Target! Liquid flavorings. Add one of 19 tasty flavorings like cherry, watermelon, or even chocolate-banana pie to any liquid medicine for free. Nothing could be worse for my senses and stomach to think of a chemical and sugar ladened, thick, awful tasting potion with chocolate-banana pie artificial flavorings early in the morning. " What now?," I thought in disgust. "Target gets into the Starbucks business and now wants to add a similar theme with the pharmaceuticals." What stupidity will they try next is well beyond me! Such a far cry from those Chelsea mornings when the taste of milk and honey is the greatest in the world, as the senses get filled with the smells and feel of freshly peeled ripe oranges as sunshine softly radiating it's warm glow all over your face, shoulders and body. jean - --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: njc, a gift for Deadheads now JMU Man, this chick is gifted! Patti Parlette wrote: Jeannie lovingly wrote: Hey Patti, if there were a Joni Mitchell University, what positions do you think you and me would hold? I wonder if I'd have a PhD? Maybe! I know you would. I nominate you for president! President Patti Parlette of the Joni Mitchell University. It has a really nice Joni tinge along the lovely white laced linen themes. **** Thank you, Jeannie, but I must decline your flattering nomination. Not mine, not mine, these presidential gowns. I have too much heart (maybe it's sensitivity) and humour (I'm just another silly girl, when Joni love makes a fool of me) and humility. We need someone more serious and scholarly, methinks. Send us somebody, who's strong and somewhat sincere! Someone who is a musician. Yes, certainly, the President should be a musician. I could handle being a department head or director of a small institute....maybe for the Department of Joni Language, or the Joni Writing Institute, or a Provost for Peace Studies. Maybe our therapists here could head a clinical studies lab for the study and treatment of JMOCD. Another lab for Paranoia and Sensitivity Studies and Poor Eddie Thinking He's Nobody. So many other positions could be filled...Director of the Tree Museum (Marianne, impossibly gentle hands down!), oh there are so many....don't get me started. The Music Dept alone, and sub-departments....The Institute of the Sand and the Sea (Coastal Studies).....Biology of Peridots and Periwinkles.....Banquet & Hospitality Studies.....Empire/Cactus Tree School of Hotel & Motel Management.....Dept. of Fine Arts for Lonely Painters....Director of Cartography/Drawing Maps of Canada (BB, maybe?), Dept. of Theology & Advice & Religion & Gurus, Books & Bibles, The Amelia School of Aeronautics, Sociology of Peoples' Parties, Native American Studies/Ripping Off Indian Land Again, Cosmetology of Painting Eyelids Green, School of Drama and Movie Queens, Agriculture/Hissing Lawn Studies, Mixology Studies for Singapore Slings and Gin's What I'm Drinking, and you know.... And the Library! We *must* have an awesome library. Fiction and non-fiction of course. And the Joni Mitchell Art Institute, absoluement! With all of her work, plus some Van Goghs and Gaugins and O'Keefes and........ And imagine all the dissertation titles! Honors theses, independent study projects, social just-ice groups, clubs, dance halls and cafes in the Student Union, study abroad programs (maybe we'll go to Amersterdam, maybe Rome, Grecian Isles, Paris, Spain....), dorm complexes named after albums, with each dorm named after a song on that album............how do you stop? Being silly, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com Dreaming Dreamland, Jeannie jjj . - --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 15:02:33 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: njc, a gift for Deadheads now JMU I'd be the head JMU cheer-leader--not the conventional dancing clown type. And, I'd take care of Voices For Animals Dept. I'd like to take my chance on spiritual themes such as the touching of souls when they intertwine for a divine moment in pure love! Awesome! I want all of Joni's records to be documented 100% true, each page approved by Joni herself. There's only one Joni and I'd make sure that nothing interferes with the star maker-machinery image of the beautful lonely painter!! Love, jean Patti Parlette wrote: Hey Patti, if there were a Joni Mitchell University, what positions do you think you and me would hold? I wonder if I'd have a PhD? Maybe! I know you would. I nominate you for president! President Patti Parlette of the Joni Mitchell University. It has a really nice Joni tinge along the lovely white laced linen themes. **** Thank you, Jeannie, but I must decline your flattering nomination. Not mine, not mine, these presidential gowns. I have too much heart (maybe it's sensitivity) and humour (I'm just another silly girl, when Joni love makes a fool of me) and humility. We need someone more serious and scholarly, methinks. Send us somebody, who's strong and somewhat sincere! Someone who is a musician. Yes, certainly, the President should be a musician. I could handle being a department head or director of a small institute....maybe for the Department of Joni Language, or the Joni Writing Institute, or a Provost for Peace Studies. Maybe our therapists here could head a clinical studies lab for the study and treatment of JMOCD. Another lab for Paranoia and Sensitivity Studies and Poor Eddie Thinking He's Nobody. So many other positions could be filled...Director of the Tree Museum (Marianne, impossibly gentle hands down!), oh there are so many....don't get me started. The Music Dept alone, and sub-departments....The Institute of the Sand and the Sea (Coastal Studies).....Biology of Peridots and Periwinkles.....Banquet & Hospitality Studies.....Empire/Cactus Tree School of Hotel & Motel Management.....Dept. of Fine Arts for Lonely Painters....Director of Cartography/Drawing Maps of Canada (BB, maybe?), Dept. of Theology & Advice & Religion & Gurus, Books & Bibles, The Amelia School of Aeronautics, Sociology of Peoples' Parties, Native American Studies/Ripping Off Indian Land Again, Cosmetology of Painting Eyelids Green, School of Drama and Movie Queens, Agriculture/Hissing Lawn Studies, Mixology Studies for Singapore Slings and Gin's What I'm Drinking, and you know.... And the Library! We *must* have an awesome library. Fiction and non-fiction of course. And the Joni Mitchell Art Institute, absoluement! With all of her work, plus some Van Goghs and Gaugins and O'Keefes and........ And imagine all the dissertation titles! Honors theses, independent study projects, social just-ice groups, clubs, dance halls and cafes in the Student Union, study abroad programs (maybe we'll go to Amersterdam, maybe Rome, Grecian Isles, Paris, Spain....), dorm complexes named after albums, with each dorm named after a song on that album............how do you stop? What position would you like, Jeannie? Being silly, Patti P. _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com - --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:16:32 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: Fw: Politics NJC Gene....it is the phony outrage that bugs me. The Clintion's are out in front today on Libby's commutation.....it strikes me as so hypocritical...and like Tony Snow said... a lot of chutzpah coming from them. No...Gene...I do have certain standards.....let's see... something where there would be no degrees...oh ..abortion...it takes a life... Bree >>hello bree, your logic is great. there is no right or wrong, just degrees >>of right or wrong. bill's had over a hundred pardons, bush just one ---so >>gw can't be all that bad. >>let's see hitler killed millions, but oswald just killed(?) just one >>person, jfk------so he can't be all that bad. i guess it's okay for >>public officials to lie to the elected public. then gw can't be all that >>bad. it's okay to keep secrets from the public, after all, we're much to >>busy with our lives to worry about the big stuff. gw can't be all that >>bad. hell, it's okay to have our rights suspended and our privacy >>invaded---after we haven't had a repeat of 9/11----gw can't be all that >>bad. thanks for the enlightenment, gene >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bree Mcdonough" >> >>To: >>Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:51 AM >>Subject: Politics NJC >> >> >>>Yes...Bush commuted Libby's sentence...and will probably pardon him. But >>>now the left thinks perjury is such a terrible thing ...but thought it >>>wasn't so bad when Clinton lied. (he admitted he lied under oath) Now >>>the right ...it is sort of excusable. IT is all politics....and both >>>sides play the game very well. >>> >>>So everybody...keep your powder dry...the State Of The Union....is >>>ok....it is just more politics. You know....the president of the United >>>States lied under oath...certainly a lowly aide won't upset the apple >>>cart too badly? >>> >>>Oh..and Hillary's outrage...give me a blankin break... >>> >>>take a look at Bill's last day in office....way over hundred >>>pardons...commutations... >>> >>>Outraged...google the name Mark Rich....Bush doesn't seem quite as >>>bad.... >>> >>>Bree >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>http://liveearth.msn.com >>> >>>!DSPAM:144,468d308181871524588567! _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: Doc's Liquid Pills/Brand New Ills now w/ your choice of artificial flavorings :P The phamaceutical business boom is at an all time high. As most Americans do, I too take my daily recommended dosages, they say, so I can pull through another day with sane body, heart, soul, and mind. "Okay," I say. Not complaining, just yet. The only folks I know who are not on medication are my three sisters. How we got this far, I often ponder in confusion. Fact or Fiction? Has anyone ever seen the old French film from around 1928, 'The Rules Of The Game?" Directed by Jean Renoir, son of August Renoir, the unbelievably gifted and wise French painter. Jean Renoir acts in the movie himself and there's a scene where he's speaking with a lover, I believe. He states, even way back then, how the phamaceutical big-whig financiers were preparing to take us away from nature and more into chemicals. In that scene, he was speaking in utter despair about many of societies sad, ill woes. How Renoir knew back then what we are going through now is a question I've had for quite sometime. That was back in the twenties. What was going on in France back then that he had the vision in order to lament the pharmaceutical business strategies for the future? Kind of like Rachel Carson with The Silent Spring. jean jeannie wrote: Was reading this morning's paper over a cup of coffee and some breakfast cookies. Came across a Target ad. Opened it up to check out the electronics sales. There's a picture of a medicine bottle nearly 1/4 of the page large. It says, Now, FREE at Target! Liquid flavorings. Add one of 19 tasty flavorings like cherry, watermelon, or even chocolate-banana pie to any liquid medicine for free. Nothing could be worse for my senses and stomach to think of a chemical and sugar ladened, thick, awful tasting potion with chocolate-banana pie artificial flavorings early in the morning. " What now?," I thought in disgust. "Target gets into the Starbucks business and now wants to add a similar theme with the pharmaceuticals." What stupidity will they try next is well beyond me! Such a far cry from those Chelsea mornings when the taste of milk and honey is the greatest in the world, as the senses get filled with the smells and feel of freshly peeled ripe oranges as sunshine softly radiating it's warm glow all over your face, shoulders and body. jean - --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. - --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:45:02 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Re: for the roses I can relate this new FTR meaning as truer to Joni's style! Thanks for the insight. jean PS Don't mean to be so talkative but things are in place here for a few days, that I can concentrate basically on me, the creature friends and my Joni music and I seem to have found some sort of oasis in space for the moment and for the red and white roses I have growing in my garden here. Michel BYRNE wrote: To add another, more tongue-in-cheek (but ultimately serious) layer of meaning, I'm sure in one interview (possibly the 1979 Rolling Stone one) Joni mentioned that 'for the roses' was also meant to suggest dung (dropped by the horse!) - the crap found in the industry, but which can still nurture the roses. The gatefold picture in the same humorous vein was her mooning at the industry! M _________________________________________________________________ Win tickets to the sold out Live Earth concert! http://liveearth.uk.msn.com - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:27:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Bearded Dragon Lizzard njc - --- LCStanley7@aol.com wrote: > Hi Ya'll, > > I've been traveling in some vehicle north and > seeing JMDLers along the > way. > > Met up with a bearded dragon lizard named Lizzie > who is into Joni. I think I've met that Lizard. > Next stop, Toronto, for dinner with Catherine. > My oldest son and his > friend are going to see The White Stripes in > concert there. > Yup. Just got back from dinner with Laura and her three sons and her son's friend and Annette and her twin little girls and my son Matt. And met Charlie the Chihuahua on the way back home. A lovely time was had by all. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:58:25 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Subject: For the Roses? No, I think that's it. Do you remember the postscript in the movie, "Annie Hall"? The filmmaker quoted an old joke as a summary of What It All Means. Woody Allen said >>A guy talks to his doctor, says, "Doc, my brother-in-law is crazy. He thinks he's a chicken." >>Doctor says, "Have him take one of these pills in the morning, he'll stop having delusions." >>"What?" the guy says. >>"He won't think he's a chicken anymore." >>"Oh, no. I can't do that," the guy says. "I need the eggs." >>I think that sums up how I feel about relationships. They don't work; they're crazy; but in the end, we keep going back because... we need the eggs. A nonsensical reward is better than staring into the abyss, eh? Jim L. From: Dave Blackburn >could it be that (in true Joni double layered meaning) that one performs music and endures all the music biz crap for nothing more than the bunch of roses that often gets handed the diva after a brilliant show? In other words, that's about as much satisfaction as there is in all this: a bunch of roses. Any other theories?> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: jeannie Subject: Joni Tribute Album My son loves Cat Power's voice very much. He said that she would have done a beautiful JM cover for the album. But sadly, he said, she's got that NYC arrogance that won't let her get passed herself. Don't know anything about her myself. jeannie - --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:36:05 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Your "Joni" theme song? Once upon a time, there existed a very clever, unique, and humorous television show named "Ally McBeal" which I loved up until say the last season or so (when Jon Bon Jovi made his entrance on the show as an actor). One thing I loved about this show (among the many, Ally was nuts! It was great!) was that the main characters had "theme songs" that were appropriate to their lives which would play in the background for us, the viewing audience, but in their head on the show to lift their spirits or something of that nature. All this being said, if you had to choose a Joni Mitchell song as your theme song (as this is the JMDL), which one would it be and why? - -Monika NP: "Tell It Like It Is"-Aaron Neville P.S. [Some trivia for you!] Ally's boyfriend at one point, Larry (played by Robert Downey Jr.), performs "River" (I think it was) on the piano for Ally. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:43:43 -0400 From: Doug Subject: Re: Fw: Politics NJC I was a a friend's house today. He is an ardent Conservative and Bush supporter, very unusual around here. Rush Limbaugh was on the radio, as usual (talk about phony outrage), and I heard Rush claim that the Soviet Union never fought a war for freedom. My friend was initially in agreement, I couldn't believe it! I reminded him about the Second World War, eventually reason prevailed. It was like Bush in a recent speech saying that the United States had never lost a war. Remember Vietnam George? I guess not. I wouldn't call myself a Liberal, or an Anti-Conservative, but this present bunch of right-wingers is the most hateful, vindictive and destructive ever. We'll all be better off when they're gone. Doug Bree Mcdonough wrote: > Gene....it is the phony outrage that bugs me. The Clintion's are out > in front today on Libby's commutation.....it strikes me as so > hypocritical...and like Tony Snow said... a lot of chutzpah coming > from them. > > No...Gene...I do have certain standards.....let's see... something > where there would be no degrees...oh ..abortion...it takes a life... > > > Bree > > > >>> hello bree, your logic is great. there is no right or wrong, just >>> degrees of right or wrong. bill's had over a hundred pardons, bush >>> just one ---so gw can't be all that bad. >>> let's see hitler killed millions, but oswald just killed(?) just one >>> person, jfk------so he can't be all that bad. i guess it's okay for >>> public officials to lie to the elected public. then gw can't be all >>> that bad. it's okay to keep secrets from the public, after all, >>> we're much to busy with our lives to worry about the big stuff. gw >>> can't be all that bad. hell, it's okay to have our rights suspended >>> and our privacy invaded---after we haven't had a repeat of >>> 9/11----gw can't be all that bad. thanks for the enlightenment, gene >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bree Mcdonough" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:51 AM >>> Subject: Politics NJC >>> >>> >>>> Yes...Bush commuted Libby's sentence...and will probably pardon >>>> him. But now the left thinks perjury is such a terrible thing >>>> ...but thought it wasn't so bad when Clinton lied. (he admitted >>>> he lied under oath) Now the right ...it is sort of excusable. IT >>>> is all politics....and both sides play the game very well. >>>> >>>> So everybody...keep your powder dry...the State Of The Union....is >>>> ok....it is just more politics. You know....the president of the >>>> United States lied under oath...certainly a lowly aide won't upset >>>> the apple cart too badly? >>>> >>>> Oh..and Hillary's outrage...give me a blankin break... >>>> >>>> take a look at Bill's last day in office....way over hundred >>>> pardons...commutations... >>>> >>>> Outraged...google the name Mark Rich....Bush doesn't seem quite as >>>> bad.... >>>> >>>> Bree >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> http://liveearth.msn.com >>>> >>>> !DSPAM:144,468d308181871524588567! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! > http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:49:19 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: Fw: Politics NJC AMEN!!!!!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug" To: "Bree Mcdonough" Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Politics NJC >I was a a friend's house today. He is an ardent Conservative and Bush > supporter, very unusual around here. Rush Limbaugh was on the radio, > as usual (talk about phony outrage), and I heard Rush claim that the > Soviet Union never fought a war for freedom. My friend was initially in > agreement, I couldn't believe it! I reminded him about the Second World > War, eventually reason prevailed. It was like Bush in a recent speech > saying that the United States had never lost a war. Remember Vietnam > George? I guess not. > > I wouldn't call myself a Liberal, or an Anti-Conservative, but this > present bunch of right-wingers is the most hateful, vindictive and > destructive ever. > We'll all be better off when they're gone. > > > Doug > > > > Bree Mcdonough wrote: >> Gene....it is the phony outrage that bugs me. The Clintion's are out >> in front today on Libby's commutation.....it strikes me as so >> hypocritical...and like Tony Snow said... a lot of chutzpah coming >> from them. >> >> No...Gene...I do have certain standards.....let's see... something >> where there would be no degrees...oh ..abortion...it takes a life... >> >> >> Bree >> >> >> >>>> hello bree, your logic is great. there is no right or wrong, just >>>> degrees of right or wrong. bill's had over a hundred pardons, bush >>>> just one ---so gw can't be all that bad. >>>> let's see hitler killed millions, but oswald just killed(?) just one >>>> person, jfk------so he can't be all that bad. i guess it's okay for >>>> public officials to lie to the elected public. then gw can't be all >>>> that bad. it's okay to keep secrets from the public, after all, >>>> we're much to busy with our lives to worry about the big stuff. gw >>>> can't be all that bad. hell, it's okay to have our rights suspended >>>> and our privacy invaded---after we haven't had a repeat of >>>> 9/11----gw can't be all that bad. thanks for the enlightenment, gene >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bree Mcdonough" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:51 AM >>>> Subject: Politics NJC >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes...Bush commuted Libby's sentence...and will probably pardon >>>>> him. But now the left thinks perjury is such a terrible thing >>>>> ...but thought it wasn't so bad when Clinton lied. (he admitted >>>>> he lied under oath) Now the right ...it is sort of excusable. IT >>>>> is all politics....and both sides play the game very well. >>>>> >>>>> So everybody...keep your powder dry...the State Of The Union....is >>>>> ok....it is just more politics. You know....the president of the >>>>> United States lied under oath...certainly a lowly aide won't upset >>>>> the apple cart too badly? >>>>> >>>>> Oh..and Hillary's outrage...give me a blankin break... >>>>> >>>>> take a look at Bill's last day in office....way over hundred >>>>> pardons...commutations... >>>>> >>>>> Outraged...google the name Mark Rich....Bush doesn't seem quite as >>>>> bad.... >>>>> >>>>> Bree >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> http://liveearth.msn.com >>>>> >>>>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! >> http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 >> > > !DSPAM:144,468dad2081871261516009! ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #255 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------