From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #242 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Saturday, June 23 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 242 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- SV: very interesting article on "The films of Joni Mitchell" ["Marion Lef] Auction to help Mike Smith (Dave Clark Five) - NJC ["Cassy" ] Re: pay toilets, njc [LCStanley7@aol.com] Re: Friday Morning Bo [Bob Muller ] Re: very interesting article on "The films of Joni Mitchell" [Motitan@aol] Re: Friday Morning Bo [waytoblue@comcast.net] Re: Friday Morning Bo ["Cassy" ] NJC Stills show...more to come... ["mike pritchard" ] Re: Friday Morning Bo NJC [Bob Muller ] NJC Re: Friday Morning Bo [Bob Muller ] Re: NJC Stills show...more to come... [Motitan@aol.com] Joni, Shorter, Nefertiti [chuck eisenhardt ] NJC Re: Friday Morning Bo [FMYFL@aol.com] Q about Dog eat dog single and CS&N [missblux@googlemail.com] NJC O'Keeffe again [missblux@googlemail.com] RE: NJC O'Keeffe again ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: CS&N (and sometimes Y) (njc) [Victor Johnson ] Re: Q about Dog eat dog single and CS&N [Bob Muller ] A real TREE MUSEUM in Big Yellow Taxi - WHO KNEW? not me [est86mlm@ameri] CS&N (and sometimes Y) (njc) ["Laurent Olszer" ] njc, Paul Simon helps Chris Dodd, river to river ["Patti Parlette" Subject: SV: very interesting article on "The films of Joni Mitchell" Thanks for the link, Moni! That is indeed a very interesting and eloquently written article. Pure joy to read! A nice weekend to you, too Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Moni Kellermann Skickat: den 22 juni 2007 08:00 Till: joni@smoe.org Dmne: very interesting article on "The films of Joni Mitchell" http://blogs.suntimes.com/scanners/2007/06/the_films_of_joni_mitchell_a_b.ht ml A nice weekend to all of you! moni ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:29:21 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Auction to help Mike Smith (Dave Clark Five) - NJC There is currently an Ebay auction underway supporting Mike Smith, former lead singer of the Dave Clark Five. Mike was paralyzed in a 2003 fall. To visit the auction go to: http://stores.ebay.com/MikeSmithDC5Drive There is some additional info about Mike at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Smith_%28Dave_Clark_Five%29 Rock auction will raise $$ for '60s star June 15, 2007 By Bob Kostanczuk Some mighty big names are getting behind Mike Smith, the former lead singer of the Dave Clark Five. A giant eBay auction is in the works to benefit Smith, who broke his neck in a 2003 fall and can't walk. Smith happens to be married to Merrillville IN native Arlene Gorek, who now goes by Charlie Smith. (Charlie is her nickname.) Charlie, who also lived in the Glen Park area of Gary, recently informed me via e-mail of a fund-raising drive to buy a specially adapted van for her husband. Among those donating items for the charity auction are Cher, Phil Collins, Donovan, Ringo Starr, the Who, Fleetwood Mac and John Mellencamp. Charlie, who's currently residing in England, notes that www.MikeSmith1964.com is the online site to visit for more details on this star-studded rock 'n' roll auction for Mike. Those with a sense of rock history know Mike Smith was a vocal powerhouse during the '60s British Invasion. Smith's husky, soulful voice was the motor driving the DC5, known for pop gems like "Glad All Over," "Bits and Pieces" and "Any Way You Want It." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: Friday Morning Bo Hey... Here's the Joni lyrics that are saving my life...keeping me going...today...a gorgeous Friday when I could be dancing with my dogs in the back...an expanse of lawn, walking, walking walking...that trip to nowhere that could possibly include a chance meeting with a stranger who wants nothing more than to listen...then holds your confessions and sets you free... "You win the lasting laurels with your laughter It reaches like an arm before you sink To win the solitary truth you're after You dare not ask the priestess how to think How to think, how to think" Then again, I can use "Chelsea Morning" as a mantra, and I'm searching for "crimson crystal beads to beckon" me to a place where it feels safe....to a place where it feels familiar....to a place where once I danced, laughed, created, painted.....I can't find those days..not even in my memory. I live and continue to live within Joni's lyrics from "Conversation". It's all about "comfort and consultation", isn't it? It's not a person...just a very far away time...and accountability that grips your throat until the life within you slowly escapes. Down words...down sentences. I'm sorry. But I'm glad you're there, somewhere to choose or not to choose to read. So many of you are with me in my mind's eye. You'd be surprised. Bo, with love - --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:42:00 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: pay toilets, njc Mark wrote: > Automated > toilets were rolled out in downtown areas of Canberra, Melbourne and > Sydney in the mid 90s. Their original purpose was to prevent junkies > from shooting up in them because they are on a time limit. > Hi Mark, Sounds like the town officials that came up with this would benefit from a 12 step program. Speaking of that type of program... there is a moveable, hanging sign on the door knob inside of the room of one of the AA meetings I go to; the sign reads, "Al-Anon Meets Here." I smile each time I see that, imagining it hanging outside the door. Love, Laura ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:20:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Friday Morning Bo No need to apologize, Bo - we all go through down and dark times. Music and friends (even those we've never met face-to-face) help to pull us through. For me, the Joni line "today I am not prey to dark uncertainty" gives me the encouragement I need. Today - one day at a time. I had a rough day this week but was able to focus not on the events but rather on my response to those events and was able to turn it around. Just roll right past that tragedy, Bo. Bob NP: Elton John, "Free Man In Paris" - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:41:48 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: very interesting article on "The films of Joni Mitchell" Thanks for posting this! It was a very interesting read. Joni's lyrics really take on a whole new dimension when you read them even after you've heard them a million times! It's quite extraordinary. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:40:45 +0000 From: waytoblue@comcast.net Subject: Re: Friday Morning Bo > For me, the Joni line "today I am not prey to dark uncertainty" gives me the > encouragement I need. Today - one day at a time. I had a rough day this week but > was able to focus not on the events but rather on my response to those events > and was able to turn it around. > > Just roll right past that tragedy, Bo. Amen Brother Bob! Couldn't have said it better myself. Yesterday, I was rather bummed out as I found out my car needed some semi major work. It also didn't help that it was rather hot outside, being the hot Atlanta summer that it is. So I got a call around 3:00pm that it was ready, and when I asked how much it would be, she said NOTHING as it was under warranty (the same wheel bearings they had replaced in January failed.) I was quite relieved and glad that there are still dependable, trustworthy people in the world. Tomorrow I'm going to escape this summer heat and drive up into North Georgia where it will be a bit cooler. Cool, cool water... Victor ps. Simpsons Season 10 is available now on Amazon for preorder- released date Aug.7...whooohooo!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:17:45 -0400 From: "Cassy" Subject: Re: Friday Morning Bo From: "Bob Muller" << > No need to apologize, Bo - we all go through down and dark times. Music > and friends (even those we've never met face-to-face) help to pull us > through. >>> It must have been something in the air last week. On Monday a friend was rear-ended by a woman who was suffering a stroke. He was stopped at a red light and she hit him at about 50 miles an hour, never touched her brakes. He injured his back and neck. Tuesday I got the word that I had sold my house (three months on the market much better than the current average 10-15 mos. in MI) Wednesday one of my very closest friends was killed in a motorcycle accident - he was hit by a garbage truck running a late yellow as he made a right turn on red. His family locked his girlfriend of 7 years out of the house, they had the locks changed the day he died. The day of his funeral a dumpster was delivered to his home and they began pitching his things... they lost a ton of money by doing this; he had every copy of Playboy magazine from 1960-2007 and they just tossed them... threw away a bolt of fabric in his garage - he'd just paid almost $1,000 for it to re-upholster the interior of his 1968 Galaxy. It's appalling, he'd be livid at what's going on. The lesson here is that we don't have as much time as we think we do... make provisions for your loved ones... in writing. Death makes even good people do bad things sometimes. Now I am in the midst of sweating the final closing on the house, moving my son to his father's, having a moving sale, final packing, renting a truck, soliciting helpers and driving to Seattle with my Jeep in tow. So much to do. Music is my salvation and my respite. Warmly, Cassy NP: Sonia Dada - Lester's Methadone Clinic ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:08:27 +0200 From: "mike pritchard" Subject: NJC Stills show...more to come... >> going to be 90 degrees here in Ohio today. 90, sunny, and humid! I'm off to the beach to keep cool then! I love this weather!<< Ohio has a beach? mike in barcelona (4.2 kms of beach) np Mogwai - Happy songs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:28:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Friday Morning Bo NJC And the movie is right around the corner. I haven't been to the movie theater in forever since I signed on to Netflix but I may have to break down and catch this one. Bob NP: Elliott Smith, "Shooting Star" - --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:36:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: NJC Re: Friday Morning Bo Cassy, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. You are correct about being prepared for your demise - I still have not done due diligence with some of that myself. Some of it is taken care of. And so do I understand that you're moving to Seattle? Congratulations on the quick sale of your home. Bob NP: Los Lobos, "I Got Loaded" - --------------------------------- You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:06:52 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC Stills show...more to come... In a message dated 6/22/2007 2:11:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ink08@hotmail.com writes: Ohio has a beach? - ---------------------------------------------------- Ohio is located right south of Lake Erie, which I have the privilege of living just about 25 minutes from (by highway). Sure, it's no ocean view, but it's good enough for me! - -Mon ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:24:40 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: chuck eisenhardt Subject: Joni, Shorter, Nefertiti The Joni 'silkscreen' quote on Nefertiti is included in Michelle Mercer's most excellent Shorter biography 'Footrpints'..she writes: A young folksinger [this in 1967] named Joni Mitchell heard the record, and had a particularly astute take on it. "It's a very unusual piece of music, in that it's like a silk screen", Joni said. "They start off in unison, and then they more and more individuated, like a silk screen slightly offset. Through it all, Tony [Williams] is just boiling, he's the soloist. It's a very simple form, almost like a folk song. Verwe, verse, verse, not even a chorus or a bridge. Like repetitive modules. The form is unusual to jazzers - I remember someone saying, 'Listen to the from of this, it's so unusual.' And I thought, it's just a simple folk form, but look what's happening. You're not waiting for the guys to take their solos, the melody suffices, and meanwhile the drummer's just going crazy. It evokes this image of a late night in New York City, some guy is coming up from Chinatown and he's drunk and he's kicking over garbage cans and yelling all the way uptown. There's escalating anger in the drums, and it makes it a beautiful piece of music." This quote goes on just a little too long perhaps, but I think it's pretty clear that Joni here becomes enamored of linear repetitive song forms which she developed much later in Hejira. 'Footprints' highly recommended. ChuckE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:49:16 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: NJC Re: Friday Morning Bo You are so right Cassy! Everyone, no matter how young they are should make provisions legally. Having lost two nieces within the past 18 months, this really hit close to home. The first niece was just 17 at the time, but her older sister, age 28 with 3 children died suddenly when one of her lungs collapsed. Even though Ed & I had a will done by a college buddy back in the 80's, it really got me thinking. Just last month, we had the wills redone, a living will, powers of attorney, health surrogates, and a trust. Both of our families care for us very much, but you never know what can happen at a time of death. Since we can't be married legally in Florida, we've covered all the bases as far as the law is concerned. I've also learned to live for the day. Some people will save every penny for the future. It's good to save, but if you have the opportunity to travel somewhere, go see a concert, or even buy a CD that you've wanted to get.......go for it! You might not have the chance tomorrow. Sorry to be so serious, but happy weekend everyone! Jimmy In a message dated 6/22/2007 1:30:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Siquomb@Comcast.net writes: > The lesson here is that we don't have as much time as > we think we do... make provisions for your loved ones... in writing. Death > makes even good people do bad things sometimes. > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:54:04 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: Q about Dog eat dog single and CS&N Hi all, so I moved back to Copenhagen on Sunday and am getting myself used to being a Copenhagener again... On one of my explorations I came across a record shop - here are two questions about records... They had a record with one of the songs from Dog Eat Dog, I think it was Good Friends, and it was a 'promotional copy - not for sale'. It was LP-size but apparently only had that one song on it. It cost 30 Kroner, thats #3, I guess $2. Does anyone know anything about this? Is there any particular reason I should buy it? And here is my other Q. They had one Crosby & Stills and a couple of Crosby Stills & Nash. Which CS / CS&N would you people recommend? I hardly know them myself. I cc you Laurent, because you gave me some very specific advice on this which I have forgotten by now! I bought "Jaco Pastorius" - now I just need to find my record-player, hopefully it still plays... Bene Now with my own name on my own front door... In my own town. But for how long I wonder?! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:07:39 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC O'Keeffe again Hey Sherelle congratulations on the broadcast!! But when I clicked on the programme it seemed to be a different one - I didn't hear you, even if it says on the website that you'd be there. What's wrong I wonder?? About O'Keeffe - I am reading the Joni biography by Karen O'Brien at the moment (thanks to Lesli!) - and at the end there is a section about her friendship with O'Keeffe. Apparently, O'Keeffe was really annoyed with attempts at erotic interpretations of her paintings and completely denied them. I guess, though, that she felt these interpretations minimized the meaning and the beauty of her work. That I can understand. All the best from a very long summer night in Copenhagen... Bene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:12:27 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: NJC O'Keeffe again Hi Bene, Thanks so much for trying to listen! I am a bit further into the podcast around the 19:29 minute mark. There is a girl singing in the beginning that is part of group Incognito I believe. That may be who you are hearing. The podcast is about 30 minutes long if I'm not mistaken. Thanks for sharing this about Georgia O'Keefe. This relating her paintings to erotic interpretations is something totally new to me. I was not aware this was being done. Well Georgia, if you're up there listening, it went completely over my head so not to worry! (smile) Sherelle Bene wrote: >Hey Sherelle > >congratulations on the broadcast!! But when I clicked on the programme >it seemed to be a different one - I didn't hear you, even if it says >on the website that you'd be there. What's wrong I wonder?? > >About O'Keeffe - I am reading the Joni biography by Karen O'Brien at >the moment (thanks to Lesli!) - and at the end there is a section >about her friendship with O'Keeffe. Apparently, O'Keeffe was really >annoyed with attempts at erotic interpretations of her paintings and >completely denied them. I guess, though, that she felt these >interpretations minimized the meaning and the beauty of her work. That >I can understand. > >All the best from a very long summer night in Copenhagen... > >Bene _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:51:01 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: CS&N (and sometimes Y) (njc) > And here is my other Q. They had one Crosby & Stills and a couple of > Crosby Stills & Nash. Which CS / CS&N would you people recommend? I > hardly know them myself. I cc you Laurent, because you gave me some > very specific advice on this which I have forgotten by now! I would recommend Crosby Stills Nash and Young "Deja Vu" and Crosby Stills and Nash (the one where they're sitting on the couch) definitely though there are some nice songs on CSN (they're on a boat this time) certainly like "Cathedral, "Dark Star", "Cold Rain", and "Just a Song Before I Go." Also, Crosby Nash "Wind on the Water" is a nice album with "Carry Me" and the haunting "To the Last Whale" which is great to see live. There's so much good work by these guys, its hard to sum it all up in one paragraph. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Q about Dog eat dog single and CS&N Not to sound like a smarty pants, but it is merely what it says it is - a promotional single issued to radio stations and stores to encourage them to play the song and promote the album. It's not going to sound any different from the copy you already have, assuming you have DED in some format. If you're a completist and want it as a collectible then there would be that value to it but that's about it. Since you're in Copenhagen you need to track down Henning & Christina and listen to them play Joni songs - they are amazing. Bob NP: Bruce Springsteen, "Rendezvous" - --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:11:14 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: A real TREE MUSEUM in Big Yellow Taxi - WHO KNEW? not me Had no idea there was a literal TREE MUSEUM Joni was referring to. Just like I was blown away by the real "Pink Hotel"......in the same area. Check this out under the heading CHINATOWN >"Don't want to climb a mountain to get back to nature? > >Visit a tree museum -- Foster Botanical Garden, which singer Joni >Mitchell immortalized in her environmental classic "Big Yellow Taxi." > >"They took all the trees / Put 'em in tree museum /And they charged >the people a dollar and a half just to see 'em." > >Admission has gone up since Joni wrote that song, but you can still >see rare tropical plants, several varieties of orchids, palms and >trees protected by state ordinance, like the Bo tree, considered >sacred by Buddhists." http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/DESTINATIONS/06/20/honolulu/ Laura WARNING! NJC below.......but FREE energy to keep ya surfing! Monkeybrains.....FREE! http://www.monkey-brains.com/ Jamba Juice B1G1 FREE (exp. 7/4) printable coupon http://www.jambasummer.com/freesmoothie/thankyou1.htm FREE Coke Rewards Feel free to email me if you've joined this program (good for music, downloads, etc) and need point codes. I'll email what I have to you. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:15:39 +0200 From: "Laurent Olszer" Subject: CS&N (and sometimes Y) (njc) >Bene wrote > And here is my other Q. They had one Crosby & Stills and a couple of > Crosby Stills & Nash. Which CS / CS&N would you people recommend? I > hardly know them myself. I cc you Laurent, because you gave me some > very specific advice on this which I have forgotten by now! And Victor I would recommend Crosby Stills Nash and Young "Deja Vu" and Crosby Stills and Nash (the one where they're sitting on the couch) definitely though there are some nice songs on CSN (they're on a boat this time) certainly like "Cathedral, "Dark Star", "Cold Rain", and "Just a Song Before I Go." Also, Crosby Nash "Wind on the Water" is a nice album with "Carry Me" and the haunting "To the Last Whale" which is great to see live. There's so much good work by these guys, its hard to sum it all up in one paragraph. Hi Bene, That's perfectly ok since I forgot which advice I gave you. Victor is right that there's a lot of great stuff and I love all the ones he mentioned. If I understand the question: which one is recommended as a 1st approach? If you want to start from the beginning, either Crosby Stills & Nash (the couch, 69) or the live from 70 "4-way Street". Stills thinks his performance sucks on it but he's a perfectionist and you probably won't notice it. I love the whole atmosphere in that record, a real stereotype of laid-back California. It was my 1st introduction to both the music and the lifestyle. Or you may opt for a more accomplished and nevertheless as great as ever CPR's Live at the Wiltern from 98, and move your way back in time Let us know how things turn out for you, in DK and in Calif. Music! Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 06:13:09 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, Paul Simon helps Chris Dodd, river to river Dearest Joniamigo(a)s: I deemed this shareworthy: Dodd Gets Musical Backup 4:22 PM EDT, June 21, 2007 By DAVID LIGHTMAN, Washington Bureau Chief Hartford Courant Maybe this will get Chris Dodd's underdog campaign some badly needed attention: Singer Paul Simon will accompany Dodd when the senator visits Iowa on July 6 and 7. Simon is a longtime acquaintance of Dodd's and is expected to entertain voters as the Dodd campaign bus, which will also have on board Dodd's wife and two children, travels to Mason City, Fort Dodge, Sioux City, Carroll and Council Bluffs. Dodd is conducting a "river to river" tour of the state, which hosts the nation's first caucus Jan. 14. And why Simon? "His music and his commitment to bettering our world reflect the leadership that my campaign is all about," Dodd said in a statement. Optimism from the man who sang "Sounds of Silence" or "I Am a Rock?" Sure, according to Dodd. "Paul is a long time friend," he said, "and one of the most important voices in American music, and he has been tireless in his service to the greater good of people throughout our country and the world." Here's to "the greater good of people throughout our country and the world." Some semblance of the garden, seems to me. I'm remembering how Joni and JT sang for George McGovern. I've always liked Chris Dodd, one of our CT senators. IMO, he's a good man. Smart. The other one? Ach du Lieberman, don't get me going. He is the bane of my anti-war existence. Bon weekend, tout le Joni monde! Love & Peace, Patti P., up all night in the studio with wedding frenzy! (TIC: But the ceremony of the bells and lace Still veils this reckless fool here...) _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? 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