From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #228 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Monday, June 11 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 228 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Live Earth [Mark-Leon Thorne ] NJC ["Oddmund Kaarevik" ] Re: Some Stormy Weather for ya [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: been gone a while, njc majors/minors [Em ] Hissing lawns [Moni Kellermann ] Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #226 [Peep Richman ] Fwd: about your thoughts [Dflahm@aol.com] Re: been gone a while, njc majors/minors [Motitan@aol.com] RE: NJC Glad you are back ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] RE: been gone a while, njc ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: NJC John Lennon tribute ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Live Earth ["Randy Remote" ] RE: My email...NJC ["Bree Mcdonough" ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Catherine McKay ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths ["Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Live Earth Hello Joniphiles. Last month there was a news story here about a pretty ambitious world-wide project happening in July. Live Earth is supposed to be like Live Aid with simultaneous concerts around the world with a video hook up. This time for environmental awareness. Australia's contribution is a concert at Sydney Olympic Stadium with performers, Wolfmother, Missy Higgins, Eskimo Joe, Sneaky Sound System, Paul Kelly, (a reformed) Crowded House, Jack Johnson and Toni Collette with her band, The Finish. I haven't seen any further publicity for it and I was wondering if this thing is being publicised anywhere else? I was thinking that this something Joni would fit perfectly into. It would be just like her to show up at something like this and not publicise it. I loved Live Aid and even donated money to it at the time. I would love to see more of this kind of thing - a world-wide music festival to motivate people everywhere to act on a common cause. To help even out the wealth of the world and support the less fortunate nations or help clean up the planet. I understand that it is an enormous undertaking to coordinate shows in so many places and it can't be achieved very often but the power it can generate is worth it. I don't understand why Live Earth hasn't generated more publicity. I'm not sure if they are asking for donations and to what. Maybe it's just to promote awareness to environmental causes and climate change. I hope it will be broadcast on TV and I hope it will be global. They said it would. Live Aid was dominated by the simultaneous concerts in London and Philadelphia and Australia's contribution was minor and probably missed by most of the world but from this side, it was pretty exciting to part of it. I remember the performance of INXS on that one. Could this be the avenue for the world-wide release of Joni's album? Mark in Sydney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:06:16 +0200 From: "Oddmund Kaarevik" Subject: NJC LOL !!!! Cr. Oddmund in Norway My colleague started wondering here. Thanks Patti ! YOu are truly wonderful, I'm really flattered ! :-) Love, Oddmund Norway or Doctor Oddmund ... ! Ps. Sherelle. SDad to read about your trauma. The music industry sure needs your warm and soothing voice, so "don't let i t bring you down, it's only castles burning..." we love you pps. And welcome back Bo ! Great to have you back !! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 21:38:13 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: Some Stormy Weather for ya Wow! Bob, what a treat. I love this stuff. I was surprised like most people when Joni released the album, BSN but, as I've said before, that album helped me to appreciate the classic jazz songs she performs and inspired me to seek out more. I'm now a fan of this style of music where I never was before. Thanks so much for this, Bob. Thanks to Joseph too for bringing this album into the spotlight here and giving such a great review to preview it. Mark in Sydney NP Good Guy - Trisha Yearwood ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:46:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: been gone a while, njc majors/minors - --- Patti Parlette wrote:> Speaking of majors, I often wonder (a child came out to wonder) what > jmdlers > here majored in. I majored in French and German. I imagine that many > people > here were in the Humanities....or Music, of course...and Bene is in > Linguistics...and Richard, the last time I saw Richard, he was in > English, > and.... > Fine Art, and one course shy of a minor in German. I can't believe how long ago that was. Wanna hear something pathetic? I don't even remember what year I graduated. I kind of graduated by accident - like Zonker. Graduated summer semester, lol, how very un-illustrious. sigh... Em ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:46:17 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Hissing lawns When I was visiting a friend in the countryside, she was watering her big garden with a sprinkler and when I heard the sound it made I thought "Hey, the Hissing Of Summer Lawns!". I put my fave pic up on my MySpace page, so I wanted to share this with you. http://www.myspace.com/kellerfrau Greetings from Krautland, moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #226 Hi and a Good Monday Mornin' To Ya!!!! This will be a fabulous week.......feel it in my bones. Bob...about Joni's tour? You said "nope" and I say "hope". How are you, Mark???????? Oh...four Poodles are singing their "get me out (again) song...got to go...love to all. Bo - --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:10:38 EDT From: Dflahm@aol.com Subject: Fwd: about your thoughts ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Return-path: From: Dflahm@aol.com Full-name: Dflahm Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:09:07 EDT Subject: about your thoughts To: ginosar@2xtreme.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain You wrote: "A weak government is dangerous: it may feel a need to over act, or under act militarily to satisfy internal political pressure. A strong government is also better able to face external political pressure; as anti Israeli attitude around the world is continuous and powerful." What is "strength" in a government and how is that strength maintained? You also wrote: "The values of the Western world based on equality, human rights, freedom of religion and tolerance, live and let live attitude, is basically foreign to the Arab world." I believe that the best we can say is that these are ideals for which a significant number of people struggle. I also believe, sadly, that there is much in Western culture that pushes back against the attaining of those ideals. DAVID LAHM ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:28:20 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: been gone a while, njc majors/minors In a message dated 6/11/2007 7:51:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, emzdogz@yahoo.com writes: I often wonder (a child came out to wonder) what > jmdlers > here majored in. - -------------------------------------------------------------- I've got an Associate's of Arts degree and could have a communications degree very easily. I went to Broadcasting school in which everything there would transfer over to a University for a Communications degree if I were to go to school. The only thing I would need is whatever course/s the specific University would require for graduation. So it's like having the degree basically but without the actual certification. Ah well, I don't think I could handle any more school. Don't get me wrong here, I was always a really, really good student---great grades, great SAT/ACT scores but I just absolutely positively hate school. My high school attendance rate was really not so good (particularly the last year--I missed quite a few days but still got a 4.0!). I skipped classes all the time but nobody suspected foul play on my part because I always had the grades. School bores me to tears. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:28:12 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: NJC Glad you are back Hi dear Bene, Thank you for your kind words. Music is definitely a way to overcome. It just takes time to get "back in the saddle again" (lyrics from one of the most positive songs I've ever heard). Every day I have tried to accomplish something musical whether it be making a musical contact within the industry or wroking on new songs (which I've also been doing despite this ordeal). They say that if you can't walk, crawl but keep moving forward. Never stand still. I'm so very glad you made it to California! Santa Barbara is one of the most beautiful places on earth! Yes, the railway has a magnificent side view of the ocean. I made a point of playing "Just Like This Train" on the trip back to L.A. It was a wonderful experience and I'm so grateful you thought of me. It means I made a difference. Also, I along with many others was walking on a cloud after the Preservation Hall performance. It was absolutely fantastic! I always think of Kakki's report when she went with her mother. Even though I went myself, I always imagine how thrilled and excited her mother was to be there. She and now you have made a difference with me. You take me back to a place that was so beautiful and full of life. Somehow, I want to go again and I'm going to find a way. Thanks so much for your report. You lifted my spirits and made me remember a wonderful experience. I needed that. Love, Sherelle Benedicte wrote: > >Dear Sherelle, > >I am really sorry to hear about your ordeal, and sorry that it affects >your music - somehow I thought music might be a way to overcome these >things...? > >I have noticed your absence, because recently I seem to have been >walking in your footsteps. I went to Los Angeles in April - an as we >drove to Santa Barbara we saw the railway, and I went - that's where >that Sherelle from my mailing list went! We arrived there and drove >past the station, and I imagined you getting off the train! Then last >Monday I went to see the Preservation Hall band, and of course thought >of your report from that same performance... > >I hope you will be well and happy soon. > >Best > >Benedicte _________________________________________________________________ Picture this  share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:51:02 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Ah...how interesting! It's funny that your highlighted color in the word "colors" is pretty close to what I actually see. E and E flat chords are varying shades of purple. However, with Joni's music, things get a little crazy because she uses chord combinations that take a synesthete like me from zero to mach 1 in sixty seconds or less! Except for those first two beginning chords, the rest of the song is in a minor key of some sort like b flat minor which is a predomintanly dark color like brown and olive green interspersed. Listening to Joni is like looking through a kaleidescope. She's just so unique musically. "The Jungle Line" is like eating chocolate, rich and good. ( Side note: I don't talk about my own musical colors because it confuses the heck out of another synesthete who might be reading or listening. Each one of us are set in our own ways with music/color combinations from birth) I too am pretty sure she is referring to Henri Rousseau in this song. If you look at some of his jungle paintings, you can't help but make the connection. I did a little research after I first posted and found out that he is also known as Henri J.F. Rousseau ( if I remember what I typed correctly) and so is one in the same person. He also had a nickname which I can't recall right now. Bob wrote: > > > > But what I want to know is - what colors do you see when you hear this >one, Sherrelle? I can only imagine whats conjured. > > I was always under the impression (a little art pun there) that Henri >Rousseau was the painter she was singing about but I'm open to being >corrected on that. > > Bob > > NP: Soundgarden, "Limo Wreck" > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of >spyware protection. _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:01:47 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Wow! I'm so glad someone else loves this song like I do! (listening to it now!) Thanks so much for sharing your story of first hearing "The Jungle Line" I can almost see your first reaction when you put on the headphones at Barnes and Noble! (smile) You are so right about those drums! They are what get me too. It's like something goes through your soul and you have to just move some part of your body! Joni rises to the occassion by matching them with lyrics and melody that makes me feel I'm actually in a jungle peeking and watching for wild animals or whatever else may come around the bend. As I look at Rousseau's paintings of the jungle, it seems that he wants to put you in that frame of mind. I think she captures it perfectly. The song is meant to be a little dark and wary in my opinion. Sherelle Monika wrote: >In a message dated 6/10/2007 4:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: > >I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of Summer >Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, especially the >beginning! > > >-------------------------------------- > I absolutely love this song! It's one of my favorites off the album >and probably one of the greatest songs ever recorded! It seems so very >ahead >of its time thinking about what else was going on musically in 1975. It's >such an experimental track and to me it works! > I still remember hearing a little clip of it the first time and >listening to it in its entirety for the first time. The first time I >heard a clip >was when I was in a Barnes and Nobles. They had a music system there >where you >didn't have to find the album to scan it to listen to but merely had look >it >up. So I did that with THOSL, put the headphones on and remember hearing >that song more than the others due to its nature. And then when I did >actually >buy the album and the cd was changing from track 2 to track 3 I remember >thinking on first listen, "I'm definitely going to listen to that one >again >right away after I'm done with the album," (and that's just what I did >right >after "Shadows and Light"...went right back to track 2...). I was just >fascinated by the song and the sounds of the song. Those drums man! >-Monika > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:01:07 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: The Johnny Cash Show again... I recently bought a 4 episode set of the Johnny Cash show, including the series premiere featuring who else but miss Joni Mitchell, off Ebay. I was mistakenly sent two copies of it and after emailing the seller about this, he told me to just not worry about it and keep them both. That being said, I have no use for the second copy. So if anyone on the list would like the other copy please email me offlist. If somebody else knows how to make copies and wants it that'd be nice too for anyone else who may want it (I don't have a DVD burner nor do I know how to make copies of DVDS). The first episode featuring Joni is excellent (it also features Bob Dylan). She sounds fantastic on her own and it's also a real treat to hear her sing with Johnny Cash. They sound very good together. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:08:33 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Catherine I couldn't agree with you more with your thoughts on Rousseau's flowers, vegetation, and Joni's singing on this song as Rousseau-like. I was actually checking out that same URL yesterday but missed this painting. I actually just wrote something similar to what you said right before I read your post. We are definitely on the same wave length with this! I truly think that the poor "Sleeping Gypsy" is about to be the lion's next meal! The colors and imagery are so wonderful in this painting that I have to have a print of it for my wall one day! Sherelle Catherine wrote: > >That's what I always thought. I see the images that >Joni sings as Rousseau-like. They're sort of dream >images with lush vegetation and something just a bit >ominous, like something's gonna happen. Even the >flowers he paints look like they're poisonous. Check >this one out: >http://perso.orange.fr/le_douanier_rousseau/liens/afleur2.htm > >and there are lots more there. That lion in "Sleeping >gypsy" looks like it's thinking about making a meal of >the man... or is it just going to lie down beside him? > > >Catherine >Toronto >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to >Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:14:56 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths Whoa Laura! That is awesome information! I don't play very much guitar but I understand what you are saying for the most part. Great information! Nobody writes lke Joni! Amazing! Love, Sherelle Lady Laura wrote: > > >Sherelle asks: > >in the very beginning of the song when the >"Drums of Burundi" that I love so much break forth, what chord is she >playing on the guitar. > > >Hi Sherelle, > > In the Joni Mitchell Complete contraband book she has the guitar >tuning >as open A: AAC#EAE (A-12-4-3-5-7). The first chord is like a normal A >chord >finger formation but on the 5th fret covering the top three strings (AAC# >strings) and the pointer put down on the 4th fret fourth string (E string) >to >look like this: > > o 4th fret >ooo >2341 (fingers) > > Then lift the pointer (1) and alternate between lifting and replacing >it >each measure (8 measures total) and then strum an open A on the last beat >of >the 8th measure of introduction. > > The verse begins with barring all the way across on the ninth fret >and >then for the second measure putting two fingers down on the C# and E >strings >on the 11th fret while still holding the bar across the 9th fret (trumpet >paths). > > Hope this makes sense to you and gives you a start. > >Love, >Laura > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:17:57 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... In a message dated 6/11/2007 12:03:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: Joni rises to the occassion by matching them with lyrics and melody that makes me feel I'm actually in a jungle peeking and watching for wild animals or whatever else may come around the bend. As I look at Rousseau's paintings of the jungle, it seems that he wants to put you in that frame of mind. I think she captures it perfectly. The song is meant to be a little dark and wary in my opinion. Sherelle - ------------------------------------------- Oh yes, it is so dark and wary sounding. It's almost a bit ominous as well. I think I may have to check out Rousseau's jungle paintings now. Connect the words to the image--connect the dots perhaps. And you're absolutely right before when you mentioned those two beginning chords. The song changes quite drastically. The very beginning guitar bit almost sounds pretty for a second or two there. And then when Joni comes in to sing, her voice sounds very pretty (I always think that) but when the synths come in, when the tone changes, when you really get the feel of the drums, and when Joni finishes a line or two, it's not very pretty at all. Even her singing sounds ominous (still pretty though but with warning). After listening to this song a few times I remember thinking it was "very pretty singing in a very ugly background." But then after listening to it more I notice Joni's tone changes as well. It's meant to be "ugly." I wonder if I'm making sense here. I don't mean "ugly" in the general sense which would mean I don't like the song and find nothing appealing about it. I mean it in a different way. You follow? - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:32:54 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: NJC John Lennon tribute Did anyone hear about the John Lennon tribute cd that is coming out? It is called "Instant Karma: The Amnesty International Campaign to Save Darfur." Anyone interested look here: _http://www.amazon.com/Instant-K arma-Amnesty-International-Campaign/dp/B000PMG9G2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6467012-5535230?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1181579197&sr=8-1_ (http://www.amazon.com/Instant-Karma-Amnesty-International-Campaign/dp/B000PMG9G2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6467012-5535230?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1181579197&sr=8-1 ) I'd be interested in hearing the Dylan/Harrison contribution (Dylan as in Jakob Dylan and Harrison as in Dhani Harrison---Dhani Harrison seems like such a nice boy....he looks so much like a splitting image of a young George Harrison it's almost unbelievable!). But I don't appreciate Avril Lavigne on this album nor the Black Eyed Peas. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:40:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... - --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > he is also known as Henri J.F. Rousseau ( if I remember what I typed > correctly) and so is one in the same person. He also had a nickname > which I > can't recall right now. possibly "Douanier Rousseau"..as he was known. He was a customs agent (thats what douanier means). Just more of the useless and worthless knowledge that comes with an art degree. :) Em Stand, don't you know that you are free? well at least in your mind, if you want to be... ...Sly Free your mind and the rest will follow.. ..En Vogue ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:09:51 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: been gone a while, njc Patti, I love "Heart of Gold" by Neil Young! That was wonderfully sweet of you to say! I send that same sentiment back to you! Wow! I didn't notice our shoes! I was too busy trying to wheel that stupid suitcase! (smile) Actually, I took it with me to L.A. and broke one of those blasted wheels so now I have to get another suitcase! Hooray! It was a pain in the derrierre there as well! I'm putting it on my wish list! As for that wonderful experience at Strawberry Fields, I will treasure it forever mon amie! I was reading a news article in which Yoko talks about John's last night. She asked him if he wanted to go out to dinner first before returning home. He said no, he wanted to get back to see Sean before he went to sleep. She said he was anxious as if he would not make it there in time. Unfortunately, he did not. Another victim of gun violence except this was a fatality. It's so sad and senseless. Thank you so much for the "bonne chance" wishes for my music. It seems that every time I play out, opportunities open up. I met a booking manager by the name of Roy Mcpherson that is a dear friend of my friend who put on the Marvin Gaye Tribute Day event. He is more into reggae but he is still interested in booking me. He does national tours. He also has a charitable foundation which helps build schools in Ethiopia. Sounds like a Rasta Man to me! I'm actually more excited about working with the charity believe it or not! I feel that is my calling as well; to sing for and help charitable organizations.So everyone send good vibes for the completion of this second CD. That's the only thing that's holding me back. I have just found out I have musicians to work with me now so it's just a matter of putting everything together. And by the way, 8000 CD's would be great mon amie! They would be unbelievable great! As for majors, though I did not graduate from college, I started out as a voice major with music theory as minor of sorts. I found out that my theory instructor later went on to became a world known composer. His name was Dorrance Stalvey. He's passed away now but I was still able give my condolensces to someone in his music organization. I owe my love of music theory to him. Love, Sherelle Patti wrote: > >Our Little Ms. Treegreen wrote: > > >and . . . as patti would say: > >don''t let it bring you down >it's only castles burning. . . > >and you will come around." > >And Neil and I would further add that we are no longer searching for a >heart of gold, since we found YOU! > >One of the many highlights of our Night in the City/Joni Tribute was >standing with you on John Lennon's "Imagine" mosaic in Central Park the >morning after. You and me, arm in arm, wearing the exact same shoes >(quelle coincidence!), mine black, and yours white, overlooking the strewn >(for the) rose(s) petals in the form of a peace sign. > >I hope you now have a suitcase with rolling wheels! That was our only >problem that day....LOL! > >Et bonne chance with your music. Carry on, sistah! Go for it! We will >all support you and buy your CD. That's about 800 of us, right? And if we >all tell ten friends to buy it, that's over 8,000, non? Pardonnez-moi, I >was not a math major. How many friends do we have to get to be at half a >million strong? > >Speaking of majors, I often wonder (a child came out to wonder) what >jmdlers here majored in. I majored in French and German. I imagine that >many people here were in the Humanities....or Music, of course...and Bene >is in Linguistics...and Richard, the last time I saw Richard, he was in >English, and.... > >Love, > >Patti P. > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Picture this  share your photos and you could win big! >http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us > _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:17:35 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... I absolutely follow Monika! I get exactly what you are saying and I agree with you 100%. There's a darkness to this song that is necessary to properly express it alongside the drums of Burundi. Please check out Rousseau's pantings, especially his Jungle ones when you get a chance. I found out that through searching yesterday that I missed this exhiibit when it came to D.C. last year! Rats! Now my goal is to see one of Rousseau's paintings up close and personal. I believe that "Sleeping Gypsy" is on display in New York. Sherelle Monika wrote: > > Oh yes, it is so dark and wary sounding. It's almost a bit ominous >as >well. I think I may have to check out Rousseau's jungle paintings now. >Connect the words to the image--connect the dots perhaps. > And you're absolutely right before when you mentioned those two >beginning chords. The song changes quite drastically. The very beginning >guitar bit >almost sounds pretty for a second or two there. And then when Joni comes >in >to sing, her voice sounds very pretty (I always think that) but when the >synths come in, when the tone changes, when you really get the feel of the >drums, and when Joni finishes a line or two, it's not very pretty at all. >Even >her singing sounds ominous (still pretty though but with warning). After >listening to this song a few times I remember thinking it was "very pretty >singing >in a very ugly background." But then after listening to it more I notice >Joni's tone changes as well. It's meant to be "ugly." I wonder if I'm >making >sense here. I don't mean "ugly" in the general sense which would mean I >don't like the song and find nothing appealing about it. I mean it in a >different way. You follow? >-Monika > > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at >http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:27:30 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... (Mind is freeing as we speak...thank you for those last quotes Em) That's the nickname I saw! In one article I read, they said he never really became a custom agent though he had the nickname. He came from humble beginnings and was actually not very well accepted in the Art society. Perhaps this is one reason why Joni admired him enough to write a song about his art. Wish we could ask her! Sherelle >From: Em >To: Sherelle Smith , scjoniguy@yahoo.com, >joni@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... >Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:40:37 -0700 (PDT) > >--- Sherelle Smith wrote: > > he is also known as Henri J.F. Rousseau ( if I remember what I typed > > correctly) and so is one in the same person. He also had a nickname > > which I > > can't recall right now. > >possibly "Douanier Rousseau"..as he was known. He was a customs agent >(thats what douanier means). >Just more of the useless and worthless knowledge that comes with an art >degree. >:) >Em > >Stand, don't you know that you are free? >well at least in your mind, if you want to be... >...Sly > > Free your >mind and the rest will follow.. >..En Vogue _________________________________________________________________ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play nowit's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:34:19 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Hissing lawns njc Cool photo of the big sprinkler doing it's thing, Moni- Someone called you the 'Amy Goodman of Germany', a nice compliment! Subject: Hissing lawns > When I was visiting a friend in the countryside, she was watering her big > garden with a sprinkler and when I heard the sound it made I thought "Hey, > the Hissing Of Summer Lawns!". > > I put my fave pic up on my MySpace page, so I wanted to share this with > you. > > http://www.myspace.com/kellerfrau > > Greetings from Krautland, > moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:47:50 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: NJC John Lennon tribute > Did anyone hear about the John Lennon tribute cd that is coming out? It > is > called "Instant Karma: The Amnesty International Campaign to Save > Darfur." > -Monika The only songs I've heard from it were REM's "#9 Dream" (perfunctory IMO) and Green Day's competent take on "Working Class Hero" which they did on American Idol of all places (unless I hallucinated the whole thing). The SF Chronicle's Joel Selvin gave it a lukewarm review in yesterday's paper: INSTANT KARMA Tribute albums are all pretty much the same -- a couple of big marquee names, a few interesting tracks and a lot of earnest, but ultimately mediocre, covers. Somewhere in this well-intentioned, sprawling two-disc benefit album may well be a fairly effective John Lennon tribute, but "Instant Karma" is stretched way too thin. And, at 84 minutes, it was close to fitting on one disc anyway -- there were at least a couple of good candidates for the cutting-room floor. Virtually the entire second disc would seem to be a lame appeal to teenage rock fans, with today's groups singing old songs. Imagine bands nobody will remember in a few minutes singing Lennon songs nobody remembers now (The Postal Service doing "Grow Old With Me"? Snow Patrol all over "Isolation"?). Lennon's solo work was spotty at best, although R.E.M. magically found the Beatles' heart in "#9 Dream," in a splendid version that manages to neatly improve on the original. Green Day is positively inspired on "Working Class Hero" -- Billie Joe Armstrong (left) sings 'em like he means 'em. U2, of course, soars majestic on "Instant Karma" -- Bono and the lads can always be counted on to make properly respectful, heroic contributions to these tribute projects. The Refugee All Stars are a welcome addition to Aerosmith's "Give Peace a Chance," and Lenny Kravitz brings a seductive, smoldering edginess to "Cold Turkey." But when Christina Aguilera decides the final choruses of "Mother" are an opportunity for oversouling vocals, not the primal screaming of the original, she subverts the brutal pain at the song's core. In addition to all the 21st century pop stars on the set (Black Eyed Peas, Regina Spektor, Matisyahu), the classic-rock second generation is heard from -- Jakob Dylan and Dhani Harrison join voices on "Gimme Some Truth" -- although neither of Lennon's own musical progenies, Sean Lennon Ono or Julian Lennon, come anywhere near this semi-event. -- Joel Selvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:31:35 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Live Earth I think it's been pretty well publicized here in the US- it helps that it is being organized by Al Gore, who, it is still hoped, will try to regain the presidency he won in 2000 by running again next year, and who has been riding the wave of popularity from "An Inconvienient Truth". I've written about it a couple of times here on the list. The specific purpose of the concerts is to raise awareness of climate change. The event happens on 7-7-07 (some esoterics claim 777 is the number of Christ, though I have not yet signed on to the Gore- is-Jesus movement), and will be televised, radioized, and webcast, though details are still pending. I agree it would be a good fit for Joni, considering that Shine will be environmentally themed.. So far she has not been on the list of performers. http://www.liveearth.org/ RR > Hello Joniphiles. > > Last month there was a news story here about a pretty ambitious > world-wide project happening in July. Live Earth is supposed to be like > Live Aid with simultaneous concerts around the world ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:57:35 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: RE: My email...NJC you are so darn corny and cute... >From: "Marianne Rizzo" >Reply-To: "Marianne Rizzo" >To: joni@smoe.org >Subject: My email...NJC >Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:05:48 -0400 > >From: bluefortheroses@aol.com > >>Can one of the moderators please suspend my email on this list for the >>next >>three weeks?B I am going to Europe and will not be able to answer my >>emails....Thank you!B Rick > > >Can one of the moderators please help me with some moderation? > >; - ) > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN >http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 14:20:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > And then when Joni comes in > to sing, her voice sounds very pretty (I always > think that) but when the > synths come in, when the tone changes, when you > really get the feel of the > drums, and when Joni finishes a line or two, it's > not very pretty at all. Even > her singing sounds ominous (still pretty though but > with warning). After > listening to this song a few times I remember > thinking it was "very pretty singing > in a very ugly background." But then after > listening to it more I notice > Joni's tone changes as well. It's meant to be > "ugly." I wonder if I'm making > sense here. I don't mean "ugly" in the general > sense which would mean I > don't like the song and find nothing appealing about > it. I mean it in a > different way. You follow? > -Monika > Makes perfect sense to me. I think "ominous" is a good choice of words. Ominous, or sinister. I'm going to have to listen to it when I get home (goofing off at work again!) I can't hear the guitar part in my head. All I can hear is the drums and the synth (that sort of saxophone or maybe low-voiced clarinet sound.) Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:19:58 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... That vine laying there.......left out for a reason...?? OR did he simply think something was needed to even the painting out? A bit amateurish at first glance? >Catherine I couldn't agree with you more with your thoughts on Rousseau's >flowers, vegetation, and Joni's singing on this song as Rousseau-like. I >was actually checking out that same URL yesterday but missed this painting. >I actually just wrote something similar to what you said right before I >read your post. We are definitely on the same wave length with this! > >I truly think that the poor "Sleeping Gypsy" is about to be the lion's next >meal! The colors and imagery are so wonderful in this painting that I have >to have a print of it for my wall one day! > >Sherelle > >Catherine wrote: >> >>That's what I always thought. I see the images that >>Joni sings as Rousseau-like. They're sort of dream >>images with lush vegetation and something just a bit >>ominous, like something's gonna happen. Even the >>flowers he paints look like they're poisonous. Check >>this one out: >>http://perso.orange.fr/le_douanier_rousseau/liens/afleur2.htm >> >>and there are lots more there. That lion in "Sleeping >>gypsy" looks like it's thinking about making a meal of >>the man... or is it just going to lie down beside him? >> >> >>Catherine >>Toronto >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to >>Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com > >_________________________________________________________________ >PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows >Live Hotmail. >http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:23:58 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths Just how long are your fingers..Laura? >Whoa Laura! That is awesome information! I don't play very much guitar but >I understand what you are saying for the most part. Great information! >Nobody writes lke Joni! Amazing! > >Love, Sherelle > >Lady Laura wrote: >> >> >>Sherelle asks: >> >>in the very beginning of the song when the >>"Drums of Burundi" that I love so much break forth, what chord is she >>playing on the guitar. >> >> >>Hi Sherelle, (fingers) >> The verse begins with barring all the way across on the ninth fret >>and >>then for the second measure putting two fingers down on the C# and E >>strings >>on the 11th fret while still holding the bar across the 9th fret (trumpet >>paths). >> >> Hope this makes sense to you and gives you a start. >> >>Love, >>Laura >> >> >> >>************************************** See what's free at >>http://www.aol.com. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Need a break? 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Games. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:45:04 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... Hi Bree! I think they were left out for a reason deliberately as a symbolic gesture for something. Though the flowers are neatly arranged in a vase, the vine to me is to remind us that they are still wild and from the jungle.. That's my take anyway. Love, Sherelle Bree wrote: > >That vine laying there.......left out for a reason...?? OR did he >simply think something was needed to even the painting out? A bit >amateurish at first glance? > _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:51:08 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths In a message dated 6/11/07 2:26:47 PM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Just how long are your fingers..Laura? > In the Z position (contracting the lumbricals), extending the IP joints, begining the measurement at the approximate midpoint of the MP joint, i.e., at the proximal end of the proximal phalanges, to the distal most point of the distal phalanges, left hand fingers only: pointer = 9.5cm middle finger = 10.5cm ring finger = 10.25cm little finger = 8.33cm ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:03:28 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Been gone a while NJC I would have to agree with you on this one ...Bob. I think of the two brothers...eight and eleven who were missing in London, Kentucky over the weekend....they were found dead in their mother's trunk. They died from hypothermia. Just playing around like children do...but with deadly consequences. God allows....we see it everyday in are own communities...He allows... sometimes He intervenes. There are no answers to the why's...not now..some call them life's mysteries. ...and we will just have to wait for the answers. Trying to understand the infinite is just not in our realm. >spared by a loving God.> > > Which of course means that God doesn't give a damn about the innocent >people who are victims of homicide, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense >to me. > > Bob > > NP: Prince, "Strange But True" > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels >in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. _________________________________________________________________ Like puzzles? Play free games & earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:14:13 -0400 From: "Bree Mcdonough" Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths Can you break that down for me? I'm recalling that sci-fi movie now...The Ten Thousand Fingers Of Doctor X... or something like that. Scary!! > > Just how long are your fingers..Laura? >In the Z position (contracting the lumbricals), extending the IP joints, >begining the measurement at the approximate midpoint of the MP joint, i.e., >at the >proximal end of the proximal phalanges, to the distal most point of the >distal phalanges, left hand fingers only: > >pointer = 9.5cm >middle finger = 10.5cm >ring finger = 10.25cm >little finger = 8.33cm > > > > > >************************************** > See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:02:10 +1200 From: hell@ihug.co.nz Subject: Re: been gone a while, njc majors/minors Patti wrote: > Speaking of majors, I often wonder (a child came > out to wonder) what jmdlers here majored in. I > majored in French and German. I imagine that many > people here were in the Humanities....or Music, of > course...and Bene is in Linguistics...and > Richard, the last time I saw Richard, he was in > English, and.... Not Humanities at all, but a BSc in Botany and Ecology. Now I work as a web application developer, so it's obviously been REALLY useful! Hell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:56:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... - --- Sherelle Smith wrote: > Hi Bree! > > I think they were left out for a reason deliberately > as a symbolic gesture > for something. Though the flowers are neatly > arranged in a vase, the vine to > me is to remind us that they are still wild and from > the jungle.. That's my > take anyway. Or maybe he just had some extra room at the bottom of the canvass and decided to fill it in with something - heh-heh. I like your suggestion, Sherelle. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 18:42:45 EDT From: LCStanley7@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpt paths In a message dated 6/11/07 3:14:55 PM, bree_mcdonough@hotmail.com writes: > Can you break that down for me? I'm recalling that sci-fi movie > now...The > Ten Thousand Fingers Of Doctor X... or something like that. Scary!! > > No, and I won't scratch your itch either. And, please keep your scary, X-rated doctor-finger movies to yourself. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #228 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------