From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #226 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Sunday, June 10 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 226 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) [Mark-Le] Re: RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) ["G] joni to tour again? ["Paul Headon" ] Some Stormy Weather for ya [Bob Muller ] Re: joni to tour again? [Bob Muller ] Been gone a while (njc0 ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] My email...NJC ["Marianne Rizzo" ] been gone a while, njc ["Marianne Rizzo" ] Re: joni to tour again? [Motitan@aol.com] SV: Words To Music, NJC ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: Been gone a while NJC [Bob Muller ] Climate NJC ["Marion Leffler" ] Re: Been gone a while NJC ["Sherelle Smith" ] Been gone a while (njc0 ["Kate Bennett" ] RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) ["Kate ] Re: joni to tour again? [Michael Flaherty ] njc, It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth ["Patti Parlette" ] njc, It's Bo ["Patti Parlette" ] RE: njc, It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth ["Sherelle Smi] Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... ["Sherelle Smith" ] Re: Been gone a while/death and birth and death and birth NJC ["Sherelle ] NJC Glad you are back [missblux@googlemail.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #225 [Peep Richman ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Bob Muller ] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) Hey Joseph. Thanks for the review. An enjoyable read. I had been aware of this album and read somewhere about the purpose of it but didn't realise it was a live album. Do you know if this is available as a video on DVD? I am very interested in hearing/seeing the performances by Stevie Nicks and Bjork. Mark in Sydney NP Blue - Way Out West ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 07:04:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gerald A. Notaro" Subject: Re: RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) Dflahm@aol.com wrote: > Can you supply an intelligible, usable, communicable definition of > "tessitura?" > > I'd be grateful (THIS IS NOT A JOKE) Anyone who plays a stripper in Gypsy :) > ****************************************************************************** > ****** > "Gloomy Sunday" was given magnificent nightly readings, for a week or > two, > by Ruth Brown (with Don Pullen on organ!) at the Village Gate in NYC > about > 1974. Marian McPartland had a wonderful tribute to Ruth last night at 9 pm on NPR. I was a big fan of Ruth's. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:38:10 +0100 From: "Paul Headon" Subject: joni to tour again? Hi Having travelled a 6000+ miles round trip to see Joni in her last concert in New York in 2000 I wonder will she tour in order to present her next album. Having seen The Who , with Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend in their 60s, in my home city of Swansea last week I have my passport ready. What do other people think?... Best Wishes, Paul Headon. In Wales ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Some Stormy Weather for ya As was previously mentioned, this was a promo CD given away by AT&T. There are ALWAYS copies available on ebay, it typically sellf for $5 - $10. For those who would like to hear it, I have taken the liberty of uploading it for you: http://download.yousendit.com/C54A967741E540B2 Aside from the Joni track, my favorite is the Sandra Bernhard. As Joseph stated, it's a pretty good collection and was definitely Joni's inspiration for her BSN project. She also performed "What Is This Thing Called Love?" with Bjork. Some nice pictures and a wonderful write-up by Kakki can be found here: http://jmdl.com/events/event.cfm?id=94&year=1998 Bob NP: Elvis Costello, "Button My Lip" - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 06:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: joni to tour again? I think nope. Bob NP: Supertramp, "Dreamer" - --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:43:17 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Been gone a while (njc0 Sherelle, I'm sorry to read about the armed robbery. As a believer in "the talking cure", I think you're doing all the right things. If you were in Dayton, I'd take you and Rob for some sailboat rides this summer. You need to find some solace like that, without changing your life. (Solace in moderation is good. After my girfriend left in '86, I did too much solace (!) and became a hermit for about 20 years. Don't do as I do, eh?) If there's a good side to this, I see this: your life was spared by a loving God. Let's keep in touch, Jim L np: Alison Krauss & Union Station's 'EVERY TIME YOU SAY GOODBYE' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:05:48 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: My email...NJC From: bluefortheroses@aol.com >Can one of the moderators please suspend my email on this list for the next >three weeks?B I am going to Europe and will not be able to answer my >emails....Thank you!B Rick Can one of the moderators please help me with some moderation? ; - ) _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:12:17 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: been gone a while, njc >Don't let the bastards get you down. >Don't let the bastards get you down. >Don't let the bastards get you down. Yeah! and . . . as patti would say: don''t let it bring you down it's only castles burning. . . and you will come around." From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Been gone a while (njc0 Dear Sherelle- I am so sorry to hear this has happened to you. You are the sweetest, and the last to deserve something like this. I am very grateful that you were not injured, and that we can all look forward to hearing your sweet singing in the future. Don't let the bastards get you down. RR _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:22:56 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: joni to tour again? In a message dated 6/10/2007 7:57:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, paul.headon@ntlworld.com writes: What do other people think?... - ------------------------------------ One can dream! There's no harm in that! - -Monika That was just a dream some of us had.... ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:47:33 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: SV: Words To Music, NJC Mark, I saw the news last night and they said the storm had reached Sidney. Are you alright? And still the US will not agree to do anything about the climate...(As you might know there has been a G8-meeting in Germany last week where the USA once again stated its unwillingness to contribute to efforts reducing pollution). Anyway, hope you and all the other Australians are safe now. Marion - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-onlyjoni@smoe.org] Fvr Mark-Leon Thorne Skickat: den 9 juni 2007 12:05 Till: JMDL Dmne: Words To Music Hi gang. I have a copy of the 2007 Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame broadcast to send out to somebody in the Australia/South Pacific region. To be copied and offered up to the list again. Just so those of us down in this end of the planet gets a good chance at distribution. If there are no takers from this region, I will offer it up again to the Northern Hemisphere. If somebody in this region wants it but doesn't have the facilities to copy it, get in touch with me off list and I will make you a copy. Hell in New Zealand got the last copy. I would also like to take this opportunity to wish long term Joni-lister, Gary Z a wonderful year ahead and a happy belated birthday. He has been a good friend to me and deserves a smoother ride in life than what he has been dealt (excuse the mixed metaphor). Always in my thoughts Mr Zee. You may have seen in your local news that we are experiencing extreme weather conditions here on the east coast with flash floods, tragic deaths and evacuations of entire towns. A family was drowned and crushed when a major highway north of Sydney collapsed. The towns of Singleton, Raymond Terrace and Maitland are being evacuated right now. So far, the death toll is at 6 but that's not as bad as in Oman where the death toll from flash flooding is around 35. Take care out there. Mark in Sydney NP Mmm...Skyscraper, I Love You - Underworld ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:49:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Been gone a while NJC Which of course means that God doesn't give a damn about the innocent people who are victims of homicide, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Bob NP: Prince, "Strange But True" - --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:53:09 +0200 From: "Marion Leffler" Subject: Climate NJC Hi all, it just occured to me that my last posting might give you the impression that I blame the USA for the storm over the Australian east coast. I do not! But I do think it necessary for all countries to make a joint effort to try and stop further harmful interference with our environment. It's becoming very obvious that we are experiencing climate changes due to pollution. Marion ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:25:58 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Been gone a while NJC While I am indeed grateful to be alive and that the gun was not fired, I realize that things do happen that are hard to explain. Why is one person spared and another not? I don't think, in my opinon, that it is because God loves one less than the other. I am truly convinced of that. I have seen that even when death occurs, there can be a good side in that a surviving family member does something great and tremendous to change the lives of others so that their death was not in vain. It's funny but I did not feel "special" or "fortunate" in being spared. I can't hold on to that at all. When I hear about all of the people in this area, even children who have been killed in gun violence, survivor's guilt tries to take over. To live in fear is also a form of living death as well. I don't think I will ever understand why things happen the way they do. I spent 15 years in despair wondering why my mother had to die the way she did from neck injuries sustained in a single car accident. I went through a period when trying to deal with this as I sat on the same patio where this happened, and I was so angry at the violation, I was willing to take a bullet rather than let someone else rob me again. Now that's a little crazy but it's truly how I felt. I don't think I'll ever truly understand "Why?" in my lifetime. I just know in my heart that every soul on this earth is worthy and special. Sherelle Bob wrote: > >spared by a loving God.> > > Which of course means that God doesn't give a damn about the innocent >people who are victims of homicide, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense >to me. > > Bob > > NP: Prince, "Strange But True" > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels >in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:13:25 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Been gone a while (njc0 How absolutely horrible Sherelle. I am so sorry this happened but so glad you were not physically hurt. Be kind to yourself, allow all those feelings & hopefully find a way to healing in time. If anyone can find the way through this, you can. Love, Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 11:17:42 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: RE : Stormy Weather? - my own take (kinda long and with spoilers) Thanks for the great review Joseph. At this point I forget the details but I was fortunate to see that show on one of my rare journey's to LA for a show (which usually involves Joni!). It was a very fun event- all the women were decked out in their finery & it was a treat to hear most of them singing songs outside of their normal genre. Kate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:22:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: joni to tour again? >What do other people think?... Depends on how you define "tour". If you mean lots of dates in lots of cities all over the world, them almost certainly no. A few cities? Maybe. Michael Flaherty - --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:13:41 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth Peep Richman wrote, in part: > My grandmother died on Christmas morning. She was >104 and 4 months old. The last thing she said to me >was, "I've always loved you, love you now and will >love you always". That was the day I began to >choose Joni-lyrics that described my feelings. I >haven't been able to stop searching the poetic lines >of Joni's lyrics. In silence she urged me back to >living. I've always felt, and continue to feel that >Joni saves my life. Yes, in times of trouble, Joni Mitchell comforts us. Speaking words of wisdom...let it be. Welcome back, dear Bo! I'm so glad to hear you peeping again. I've missed you, and have often wondered how you are. (I worry sometimes.) What beautiful parting words from your grandmother! "I've always loved you, love you now and will >love you always". You must keep them in your heart forever. Precious. >Love is precious. (I just had a flashback. My maternal grandmother, Nana, used to call me "Precious." I had forgotten all about that!) NPIMH: "I Will" Who knows how long Ive loved you. You know I love you still. Will I wait a lonely lifetime If you want me to  I will. For if I ever saw you I didnt catch your name. But it never really mattered I will always feel the same. Love you forever and forever. Love you with all my heart. Love you whenever were together. Love you when were apart. And when at last I find you Your song will fill the air Sing it so loud I can hear. Make it easy to be near you For the things you do endear you to me You know I will. I will. Speaking of deathbed messages, I recently read that George Harrison's was: "Love one another." Exactement! "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." And in the spirit of "Love is a story told", let me share one with you. My only channelled aspiration is that it will comfort some of you who could not physically be with a loved one when he or she passed away. When my Dad died last year, I could not be with him physically, but I was with him spiritually. He was in a nursing home/rehab center in Utah for 3 weeks. He died at approx. 5 a.m. (2/13/2006) But at 4:30 a.m. he awoke, and shared this w/ his roommate. "Larry, you awake?" Larry: "Yeah." My Dad: "I just had a dream. You and I went to Patti's birthday party in Connecticut." (This was two days after my birthday.) All in a dream, all in a dream the loading had begun...... He dreamt about me just before he passed away. I cannot tell you what comfort this has given me. I was with him! Some say that dreams are your soul travelling through place and time. To think that he was dreaming of me, and loving me tonight (npimh: "Somewhere, out there", by Linda Ronstadt), just before he passed gives me tremendous peace. And that he was awake and shared the story with Larry (Papa's faith is in people), who in turn told my brother. And that he was not suffering... Maybe, Bo, with these deathbed messages, we really *do* know love at all. What a gift. Oh Mein Papa. By the way, the link Cassy (Hi, Cassysweet!) sent, about the #1 song when you were born? (Sorry to be running behind the times...and running on!) It was "Oh, Mein Papa." Ach du Lieber, et quelle coincidence! This blew my mind! I used to sing this to my Dad whenever we had the good fortune to be together in later years. We would have a bottle of German wine to drink, and I would put on my best German accent and sing: "Oh, mein Papa. To me you are so vundervoll! Oh, mein Papa, to me you are so grand!" He would always get so choked up. *Now* I know why. It was playing the week I was born. His soundtrack to being a new Dad. Muller, I know you are getting this! (Nate, Born in the U.S.A...) Okay, I'll stop. So deep between the forceps and the stone! Bon rest of the weekend, tout le Jonimonde! And a big hug to Sherelle, my Strawberry Fields Sister! Love, Patti P. P.S. Thank you for interrupting my sorrow, which is this: Written on my spirit this sad song.... Maggie's gone. My yellow lab. Dear companion. ~ Rest in Peace ~ ~ Miss Maggie Mae von Schaff ~ ~ June 8, 1996 -- June 7, 2007 ~ "Death and birth and death and birth." Notice how close her death day and birth day was. Weird synchronicity. _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:31:57 +0000 From: "Patti Parlette" Subject: njc, It's Bo CoT wrote: I must say, there are Joni words for every occasion and sometimes they just drift into my mind unbidden. Right now it's "each so deep and superficial between the forceps and the stone." Uh oh! Joni words just drift into your mind unbidden? C'est tres bizarre, mon amie! Very bizarre indeed. I have never heard of anything like this. I think you need treatment. And there are only two, or maybe three: 1. Call Dr. Oddmund in Norway. He will try to set your soul free. 2. You're either going to stand and quote with the rest of us, or 3. Take off out of here! I have a new friend who I am trying to turn on to Joni. I told him that Joni has words for every emotion. He asked: "Even baldness?" I burst into laughter and nodded "yes" as I started singing: "watching your hairline recede, my vain darling..." Lauging it all away, Sistah Patricia, Holy Order of the J.M.O.C.D.ed, on my out the door to meet old h.s. friends (we were wild in the old days) in New Haven, where I first saw Joni at Woolsey Hall in Feb. 1974 and her encore was "Twisted". It all comes down to Joni! _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:13:23 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: RE: njc, It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth This is a beautiful post Patti and what a beautiful song to bring to our minds from the Beatles. Thank you for the hug as well mon amie! I can feel it! Bo, what a beautiful story about your grandmother! Thank you so much for sharing it. I agree with Patti that you must hold on to her words always. What a wonderful gift she left behind for you. Truly a blessing. Sherelle Patti wrote: >Peep Richman wrote, in part: > >> My grandmother died on Christmas morning. She was >>104 and 4 months old. The last thing she said to me >>was, "I've always loved you, love you now and will >>love you always". That was the day I began to >>choose Joni-lyrics that described my feelings. I >>haven't been able to stop searching the poetic lines >>of Joni's lyrics. In silence she urged me back to >>living. I've always felt, and continue to feel that >>Joni saves my life. > >Yes, in times of trouble, Joni Mitchell comforts us. Speaking words of >wisdom...let it be. > >Welcome back, dear Bo! I'm so glad to hear you peeping again. I've missed >you, and have often wondered how you are. (I worry sometimes.) > >What beautiful parting words from your grandmother! "I've always loved >you, love you now and will >>love you always". You must keep them in your heart forever. Precious. >>Love is precious. > >(I just had a flashback. My maternal grandmother, Nana, used to call me >"Precious." I had forgotten all about that!) > >NPIMH: "I Will" > >Who knows how long Ive loved you. >You know I love you still. >Will I wait a lonely lifetime >If you want me to  I will. >For if I ever saw you >I didnt catch your name. >But it never really mattered >I will always feel the same. >Love you forever and forever. >Love you with all my heart. >Love you whenever were together. >Love you when were apart. >And when at last I find you >Your song will fill the air >Sing it so loud I can hear. >Make it easy to be near you >For the things you do endear you to me >You know I will. >I will. > >Speaking of deathbed messages, I recently read that George Harrison's was: > >"Love one another." > >Exactement! > >"And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." > >And in the spirit of "Love is a story told", let me share one with you. My >only channelled aspiration is that it will comfort some of you who could >not physically be with a loved one when he or she passed away. > >When my Dad died last year, I could not be with him physically, but I was >with him spiritually. > >He was in a nursing home/rehab center in Utah for 3 weeks. He died at >approx. 5 a.m. (2/13/2006) But at 4:30 a.m. he awoke, and shared this w/ >his roommate. > >"Larry, you awake?" > >Larry: "Yeah." > >My Dad: "I just had a dream. You and I went to Patti's birthday party in >Connecticut." (This was two days after my birthday.) > >All in a dream, all in a dream the loading had begun...... > >He dreamt about me just before he passed away. I cannot tell you what >comfort this has given me. I was with him! Some say that dreams are your >soul travelling through place and time. To think that he was dreaming of >me, and loving me tonight (npimh: "Somewhere, out there", by Linda >Ronstadt), just before he passed gives me tremendous peace. And that he >was awake and shared the story with Larry (Papa's faith is in people), who >in turn told my brother. And that he was not suffering... > >Maybe, Bo, with these deathbed messages, we really *do* know love at all. > >What a gift. > >Oh Mein Papa. > >By the way, the link Cassy (Hi, Cassysweet!) sent, about the #1 song when >you were born? (Sorry to be running behind the times...and running on!) > >It was "Oh, Mein Papa." > >Ach du Lieber, et quelle coincidence! This blew my mind! I used to sing >this to my Dad whenever we had the good fortune to be together in later >years. We would have a bottle of German wine to drink, and I would put on >my best German accent and sing: "Oh, mein Papa. To me you are so >vundervoll! Oh, mein Papa, to me you are so grand!" He would always get >so choked up. *Now* I know why. It was playing the week I was born. His >soundtrack to being a new Dad. Muller, I know you are getting this! >(Nate, Born in the U.S.A...) > >Okay, I'll stop. So deep between the forceps and the stone! > >Bon rest of the weekend, tout le Jonimonde! And a big hug to Sherelle, my >Strawberry Fields Sister! > >Love, > >Patti P. > >P.S. Thank you for interrupting my sorrow, which is this: > >Written on my spirit this sad song.... > >Maggie's gone. > >My yellow lab. Dear companion. > >~ Rest in Peace ~ > >~ Miss Maggie Mae von Schaff ~ > >~ June 8, 1996 -- June 7, 2007 ~ > >"Death and birth and death and birth." > >Notice how close her death day and birth day was. Weird synchronicity. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN >http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm > _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Park&cp=33.832922~-117.915659&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=1118863&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:48:19 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of Summer Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, especially the beginning! Anyway, as I was listening to it a couple of weeks ago on a new mp3 player given by my dear daughter which replaced the stolen one, I became mesmerized with the lyrical imagery of Rousseau's paintings! I went to art.com to check them out. Boy! I get it now! Doing that helps me appreciate the song so much more and Joni's love for art. I fell in love with a painting called "Sleeping Gypsy". I guess I better make sure I have the right "Rousseau" though There is a Henri Rousseau and an Henri J.F. Rousseau. Will the experts please step forward to correct me if I'm wrong. I'm looking at the work of Henri Rousseau. My question to anyone is, what exact painting is Joni referiring to in this song or is she referring to several different ones? Also, to the guitar efficiandos, in the very beginning of the song when the "Drums of Burundi" that I love so much break forth, what chord is she playing on the guitar. It sounds like an E or E flat chord. After all these years, you can still find something new and refreshing about Joni's music and now, I'm also determined to get a print of "Sleeping Gypsy" into my home! Sherelle _________________________________________________________________ Dont miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0540003042mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:10:06 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... On Jun 10, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of > Summer Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, > especially the beginning! I love "The Jungle Line"....brings back memories of Ashara's living room and the antics of Polifka, Muller, Ashley and company...the best part of the whole thing was that there was a quiet song circle going on down the hall. It could never be duplicated in a 1000 years. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:28:01 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: Been gone a while/death and birth and death and birth NJC On Jun 10, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > While I am indeed grateful to be alive and that the gun was not > fired, I realize that things do happen that are hard to explain. > Why is one person spared and another not? I don't think, in my > opinon, that it is because God loves one less than the other. I am > truly convinced of that. I have seen that even when death occurs, > there can be a good side in that a surviving family member does > something great and tremendous to change the lives of others so > that their death was not in vain. > Hi Sherelle, I'm glad you survived your encounter! I agree with your response above, especially where you mention the part about someone doing something great and wonderful. I believe that the responsibility for evil actions lie with the people who commit them. I don't think it is anyone's destiny to die a violent/wrongful death but rather the person who acts to cause such a death takes it upon themselves to alter someone else's life, cutting their time here short, essentially changing the very fabric of life. I believe that when such terrible things take place, there is a greater power, spirit or energy (whatever you prefer to call it) that seeks to balance the evil with greater good. And speaking of death and birth, I just returned from celebrating my nephew's 2nd birthday. He is incredibly cute and so much fun to hang out with. He has a little hockey stick he runs around with at my sister's house, constantly hitting a little ball, and we also got to kick a little soccer ball around outside. He also is very fortunate to have great grandparents (my grandparents) who are 93 and 95 and still going strong! Victor, home again ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:24:30 +0100 From: "Martin Giles" Subject: Re: NJC Favorite guitarists? I've been playing Frank Zappa's 'Zoot Allures' album in the car today, and loving it! I do wish he had heeded the advice 'Shut up and play your guitar' a little more though! I don't know whther I would have liked the guy if I had known him personally, but I think he was a very clever and insightful musician. He had a lot of intelligent things to say about music and the music business, but I can see why his scathing attitude would put a lot of people off him... "Anything CAN be music, but it doesn't BECOME MUSIC until someone wills it to be music, and the audience listening to it decides to PERCEIVE IT AS MUSIC. Most people can't deal with that abstraction - or don't want to. They say: "Gimmie THE TUNE. Do I like this TUNE? Does it sound like another TUNE THAT I LIKE? The more familiar it is, THE BETTER I LIKE IT. Hear those three notes there? Those are the three notes I can sing along with. I like those notes VERY, VERY MUCH. Give me a beat. Not a fancy one. Give me a GOOD BEAT - something I can dance to. It has to go boom-bap, boom-boom-BAP. If it doesn't, I will HATE it VERY, VERY MUCH. Also, I want it RIGHT AWAY - and then, write me some more songs like that - over and over and over again, because I'm REALLY into MUSIC." FZ I for one, am sad that he is gone. Martin. In London. > From: Motitan@aol.com > Subject: Re: Favorite Guitarists (NJC) > > In a message dated 6/9/2007 2:40:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > flopit@telkomsa.net writes: > > frank zappa > > > - --------------------------------- > I won't deny Zappa does play a good guitar but I don't like his music > at > all. And even more so, from what I have seen of him (things I have come > across that I have read with him), I don't like him personally. I was > made more > aware of this when I took a class called "Survey of Rock & Roll" in my > freshman year of college. I could tell the teacher was a fan and > therefore made > us watch some DVD or another of a Zappa concert/film (it had both > performances > and interviews). Whenever he talked he really, really irritated me. I > guess I didn't like his overall attitude or demeanor I suppose. > But I won't lie, when he did strap on a guitar, he let go. > - -Mon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:35:52 +0000 From: "Sherelle Smith" Subject: Re: Been gone a while/death and birth and death and birth NJC Dear Victor, Thank you for your kind words. Well said on your comments about violent crime and the people who purpertrate such acts. I will have to think over what you said. There is nothing like the innocence of a child to make everything feel new again. There is a playground outside my bedroom window. When I first moved to this place in January, my first thought was, "Okay...this is going to be interesting..." thinking that my patience may be put to the test. But after my ordeal, when I first heard the children playing, I breathed a sigh of relief that life still goes on for everyone and these children are totally oblivious to my ordeal or my fears. They are inspiring and encouraging. They teach us that life does indeed go on. I'm so glad that you were able to enjoy the wonder and innocence of your little hockey playing nephew! (smile) I'm sure it was a joy to see. Love, Sherelle Victor wrote: > > >On Jun 10, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Sherelle Smith wrote: > >>While I am indeed grateful to be alive and that the gun was not fired, I >>realize that things do happen that are hard to explain. Why is one person >>spared and another not? I don't think, in my opinon, that it is because >>God loves one less than the other. I am truly convinced of that. I have >>seen that even when death occurs, there can be a good side in that a >>surviving family member does something great and tremendous to change the >>lives of others so that their death was not in vain. >> > > >Hi Sherelle, > >I'm glad you survived your encounter! I agree with your response above, >especially where you mention the part about someone doing something great >and wonderful. I believe that the responsibility for evil actions lie >with the people who commit them. I don't think it is anyone's destiny to >die a violent/wrongful death but rather the person who acts to cause such >a death takes it upon themselves to alter someone else's life, cutting >their time here short, essentially changing the very fabric of life. I >believe that when such terrible things take place, there is a greater >power, spirit or energy (whatever you prefer to call it) that seeks to >balance the evil with greater good. > > >And speaking of death and birth, I just returned from celebrating my >nephew's 2nd birthday. He is incredibly cute and so much fun to hang out >with. He has a little hockey stick he runs around with at my sister's >house, constantly hitting a little ball, and we also got to kick a little >soccer ball around outside. He also is very fortunate to have great >grandparents (my grandparents) who are 93 and 95 and still going strong! > >Victor, home again > > > > _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:47:31 +0100 From: missblux@googlemail.com Subject: NJC Glad you are back Dear Sherelle, I am really sorry to hear about your ordeal, and sorry that it affects your music - somehow I thought music might be a way to overcome these things...? I have noticed your absence, because recently I seem to have been walking in your footsteps. I went to Los Angeles in April - an as we drove to Santa Barbara we saw the railway, and I went - that's where that Sherelle from my mailing list went! We arrived there and drove past the station, and I imagined you getting off the train! Then last Monday I went to see the Preservation Hall band, and of course thought of your report from that same performance... I hope you will be well and happy soon. Best Benedicte ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Peep Richman Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2007 #225 Thank you for many loving welcome back e-mails....feels very, very good. Sherelle, I am so absolutely empathetic with you recent horror. Please have faith and try not to get caught in the web of PTSS. In 1985, there I was, in South Phila/center city unlocking my front door....I 'felt' someone looking at me. About a quarter of a block, facing in the opposite direction that I was, stood a man...and then I heard the footsteps running closer....and all I could think of was 'why doesn't this guy have on Reebok'.....then I feel his finger gently, ever too gently hooking underneath my pocketbook. I gave him an audition (well, no...I got the part by then) of what a really street smart 27 year old he had chosen for his (next) victim. And, his applause manifested in a gun placed in my mouth. "Com'on now." Well, I threw up my hands and announced that this is the Wild Wild West and I was in the splendid state of total surrender...whoops, gotta pee...(dancing came in so handy and I dropped to a deep plie (can't spell it...sorry) and then another as I announce I had the urge to POOP. I rambled on for a while...what felt like a long while and this man grabbed my pocketbook (loaded with VCR's and all things I hold dear to my heart...pictures...you know....the stuff you shouldn't carry without being prepared to lose them....the man ran....The last time I saw Richard was in 2002 but he finally found the key to open the front door from inside the apartment and took off after this un-named phantom of the night. The police showed up...this was a one-way street and WamBam two police cars converged on the street. I somehow got to the police car before the policeman got out of the car and yanked this poor man out of the back-seat by his EAR.....this guy was smaller than my 5'5" average frame and when I realized it wasn't "him" I apologized profusely. In the mean time the policemen were yelling, "Lady, Lady, you can't touch the suspects!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "What suspect? The only thing this gentleman has in common with the guy that accosted me is the color of his skin!!!!" And then there was another suspect and then I climbed into the front seat of the police-car and 'ordered' the officers to help me find my pocketbook!!!!! Kazoom! I was put in the back of the car and taken to open lots....and I politely asked what the statistical chances were of me seeing a rat...not good odds. We went to the police station where I was met by a top brass sort of huge man who ask me, "What do you call a nig..... with a gun?" I looked at him as though he was from some reform school...he answered, since I didn't...."Sir!"....And after I got his name and badge number other equally obnoxious things happened. I have three stories and offer to be your support buddy, Sherelle. On to another subject...favorite guitarist: he's on Cher's Farewell Tour...the CD cover I can't find so I don't know his name....but I'll find it and tell you. A long time ago I wrote: I live in the realm between reality and illusion, between blue skies and deep brown earth, between air to breathe and air to gasp, between injury and healing....and I can't find the darn piece of paper that concluded the ramblings. GGGGRRRRR. Mark, of course I remember you...and I think we shared some e-mails off the Digest. Thanks for the info. Benne....oh wow....a comparative linguist with such a mighty title for your dissertation....I'm intrigued. Are you fluent in all those languages? My hat is way off to you with cheers of congratulations! For those of you who love a good read....Jodi Picoult....wow...read several of her books..."The Pact" was great as all of them were . And Ane Brun's "A Temporary Dive" is fab. I've missed you...and love you.....darling Jonilista's!!!! Bo - --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... But what I want to know is - what colors do you see when you hear this one, Sherrelle? I can only imagine whats conjured. I was always under the impression (a little art pun there) that Henri Rousseau was the painter she was singing about but I'm open to being corrected on that. Bob NP: Soundgarden, "Limo Wreck" - --------------------------------- Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:30:00 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... In a message dated 6/10/2007 4:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sherellesmith@hotmail.com writes: I know not everyone is a fan of "The Jungle Line" from Hissing of Summer Lawns, but I absolutely go nuts every time I hear it, especially the beginning! - -------------------------------------- I absolutely love this song! It's one of my favorites off the album and probably one of the greatest songs ever recorded! It seems so very ahead of its time thinking about what else was going on musically in 1975. It's such an experimental track and to me it works! I still remember hearing a little clip of it the first time and listening to it in its entirety for the first time. The first time I heard a clip was when I was in a Barnes and Nobles. They had a music system there where you didn't have to find the album to scan it to listen to but merely had look it up. So I did that with THOSL, put the headphones on and remember hearing that song more than the others due to its nature. And then when I did actually buy the album and the cd was changing from track 2 to track 3 I remember thinking on first listen, "I'm definitely going to listen to that one again right away after I'm done with the album," (and that's just what I did right after "Shadows and Light"...went right back to track 2...). I was just fascinated by the song and the sounds of the song. Those drums man! - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Rousseau walks on trumpet paths... - --- Bob Muller wrote: > > > But what I want to know is - what colors do you > see when you hear this one, Sherrelle? I can only > imagine whats conjured. > > I was always under the impression (a little art > pun there) that Henri Rousseau was the painter she > was singing about but I'm open to being corrected on > that. > > Bob That's what I always thought. I see the images that Joni sings as Rousseau-like. They're sort of dream images with lush vegetation and something just a bit ominous, like something's gonna happen. Even the flowers he paints look like they're poisonous. Check this one out: http://perso.orange.fr/le_douanier_rousseau/liens/afleur2.htm and there are lots more there. That lion in "Sleeping gypsy" looks like it's thinking about making a meal of the man... or is it just going to lie down beside him? Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:49:04 -0400 From: "Marianne Rizzo" Subject: It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth >Oh Mein Papa. beautiful patti. . the song the day you were born - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Patti Parlette" To: joni@smoe.org, ubehpy2003@yahoo.com, treegreen1@hotmail.com, sherellesmith@hotmail.com Subject: njc, It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:13:41 +0000 Peep Richman wrote, in part: > My grandmother died on Christmas morning. She was >104 and 4 months old. The last thing she said to me >was, "I've always loved you, love you now and will >love you always". That was the day I began to >choose Joni-lyrics that described my feelings. I >haven't been able to stop searching the poetic lines >of Joni's lyrics. In silence she urged me back to >living. I've always felt, and continue to feel that >Joni saves my life. Yes, in times of trouble, Joni Mitchell comforts us. Speaking words of wisdom...let it be. Welcome back, dear Bo! I'm so glad to hear you peeping again. I've missed you, and have often wondered how you are. (I worry sometimes.) What beautiful parting words from your grandmother! "I've always loved you, love you now and will >love you always". You must keep them in your heart forever. Precious. >Love is precious. (I just had a flashback. My maternal grandmother, Nana, used to call me "Precious." I had forgotten all about that!) NPIMH: "I Will" Who knows how long Ive loved you. You know I love you still. Will I wait a lonely lifetime If you want me to  I will. For if I ever saw you I didnt catch your name. But it never really mattered I will always feel the same. Love you forever and forever. Love you with all my heart. Love you whenever were together. Love you when were apart. And when at last I find you Your song will fill the air Sing it so loud I can hear. Make it easy to be near you For the things you do endear you to me You know I will. I will. Speaking of deathbed messages, I recently read that George Harrison's was: "Love one another." Exactement! "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." And in the spirit of "Love is a story told", let me share one with you. My only channelled aspiration is that it will comfort some of you who could not physically be with a loved one when he or she passed away. When my Dad died last year, I could not be with him physically, but I was with him spiritually. He was in a nursing home/rehab center in Utah for 3 weeks. He died at approx. 5 a.m. (2/13/2006) But at 4:30 a.m. he awoke, and shared this w/ his roommate. "Larry, you awake?" Larry: "Yeah." My Dad: "I just had a dream. You and I went to Patti's birthday party in Connecticut." (This was two days after my birthday.) All in a dream, all in a dream the loading had begun...... He dreamt about me just before he passed away. I cannot tell you what comfort this has given me. I was with him! Some say that dreams are your soul travelling through place and time. To think that he was dreaming of me, and loving me tonight (npimh: "Somewhere, out there", by Linda Ronstadt), just before he passed gives me tremendous peace. And that he was awake and shared the story with Larry (Papa's faith is in people), who in turn told my brother. And that he was not suffering... Maybe, Bo, with these deathbed messages, we really *do* know love at all. What a gift. Oh Mein Papa. By the way, the link Cassy (Hi, Cassysweet!) sent, about the #1 song when you were born? (Sorry to be running behind the times...and running on!) It was "Oh, Mein Papa." Ach du Lieber, et quelle coincidence! This blew my mind! I used to sing this to my Dad whenever we had the good fortune to be together in later years. We would have a bottle of German wine to drink, and I would put on my best German accent and sing: "Oh, mein Papa. To me you are so vundervoll! Oh, mein Papa, to me you are so grand!" He would always get so choked up. *Now* I know why. It was playing the week I was born. His soundtrack to being a new Dad. Muller, I know you are getting this! (Nate, Born in the U.S.A...) Okay, I'll stop. So deep between the forceps and the stone! Bon rest of the weekend, tout le Jonimonde! And a big hug to Sherelle, my Strawberry Fields Sister! Love, Patti P. P.S. Thank you for interrupting my sorrow, which is this: Written on my spirit this sad song.... Maggie's gone. My yellow lab. Dear companion. ~ Rest in Peace ~ ~ Miss Maggie Mae von Schaff ~ ~ June 8, 1996 -- June 7, 2007 ~ "Death and birth and death and birth." Notice how close her death day and birth day was. Weird synchronicity. _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm _________________________________________________________________ Play games, earn tickets, get cool prizes. Play nowit's FREE! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 17:14:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: njc, It's Bo, then death and birth and death and birth And little did I suspect that I would have to put up an army-like battle to keep the recruiters away from him...we had the best time this afternoon, we went up around Jones Gap and did a struous 2-hour hike to the most beautiful waterfall. I should have taken some pics to share with you guys - Kenny, you're the waterfall picture guy - come on down and we'll take this hike. It's a tough climb but SO worth it. I made the comment, jokingly, to Nate while we were hiking that if I was running for office my platform would be (1) waterfalls, (2) babies, (3) puppies - after all, who could vote against that? Speaking of puppies, I was saddened to hear of your loss. Our pets give so much and ask for so little. Forever memories. And (he said, rambling on) I even thought of you when we were coming back home becasue we passed a new restaurant on Poinsett Highway called the Snapshot Cafe. It's actually become kind of a swinging hot spot. Anyway, the owner is named David Crosby and he used to run a photography studio. Back in my theatre days he used to come and do some of the promo photography sort of stuff. Anyway, in his restaurant he sells some of his photos, which he calls "Crosby Stills". Kinda makes you wanns gnash your teeth, dunnit? So...come on down to the Snapshot Cafe, Patti, I'll buy you a bottle of wine! Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Buzz Fledderjohn" - --------------------------------- Expecting? 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