From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2007 #205 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Unsubscribe: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/joni Website: http://jonimitchell.com JMDL Digest Thursday, May 24 2007 Volume 2007 : Number 205 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: LOTC [Mark-Leon Thorne ] Re: RE : re: Beatles question NJC [Jerry Notaro ] Re: The Mandolin on Staten Island [Chuck Eisenhardt ] "The Riches" (NJC) ["Lindsay Moon" ] Re: "The Riches" (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] RE: "The Riches" (NJC) ["Lindsay Moon" ] NJC John Ashcroft sings??? [FMYFL@aol.com] Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: "The Riches" (NJC) [Susan Guzzi ] Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? ["L. Bruce Vaughn" ] RE: "The Riches" (NJC) [Catherine McKay ] Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? ["AJ" ] Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? ["AJ" ] Cambridge in May njc [Victor Johnson ] Re: beatles question NJC ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] Fw: beatles question NJC ["AJ" ] Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? ["Randy Remote" ] Why Joni Mitchell Could Never Be An 'American Idol' [est86mlm@ameritech.n] RE: Why Joni Mitchell Could Never Be An 'American Idol' ["Richard Flynn" ] a Joni mention ["Vince Lavieri" ] Re: Joni's Top Ten Duds [Debra ] Re: Why Joni Mitchell Could Never Be An 'American Idol' [Motitan@aol.com] Re: Joni's Top Ten Duds [Motitan@aol.com] Re: LOTC [Motitan@aol.com] Misc Music News njc ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Joni's Top Ten Duds [Debra ] Lord Jim's - Joni B.C. content ["Kate Bennett" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:32:21 +1000 From: Mark-Leon Thorne Subject: Re: LOTC That's funny, Kakki. Whenever I see that acronym, I automatically think of an Australian lesbian magazine called, Lesbians On The Loose. It is always referred to as LOTL. Mark in Sydney NP Boogietron - Rockmelons >When I read LOTC my mind keeps turning it into an acronym for Laughing On The Couch!< ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 07:40:54 -0400 From: Jerry Notaro Subject: Re: RE : re: Beatles question NJC Sandy Farina's "Strawberry Fields" The only song worth anything in the whole mess. I bought the album just for this one song. Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 07:54:50 -0400 From: Chuck Eisenhardt Subject: Re: The Mandolin on Staten Island Rosie confuses Mandolin Bros. (NOT, according to Brookes, where Joni bought the mandocello) with Stan Jay's apartment. Stan was just a private collector and broker working out of his home. It's possible to imagine that Joni went to Staten Island headed for Mandolin Bros, which was and is one of the best string shops in the East, but ended up in Stan Jay's living room, through some series of auspicious events. (Or not. Stan Jay was likely well known among the NYC folkies...) By the way, this book is a great read if you have any sort of regard for the guitar. ChuckE On May 22, 2007, at 6:07 PM, RoseMJoy@aol.com wrote: > not sure where it was then, but here it is now... > > > http://www.mandoweb.com/ > > > > See what's free at AOL.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 06:26:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: re: Beatles question NJC funny this Beatles thing coming up..a friend laid a DVD on me yesterday (what timing!) with a bunch of stuff on it - TONS of Beatles stuff I'd not heard. Seems to be unreleased and concert versions, alt takes, etc. Its soooooooooo good to hear rock & roll. Pop rock and roll even! Those boys could mash it up really well. And that's not even when they're being brilliant. Looking forward to soaking in this hot tub a good long while. Em ps: still seems like White Album came after Abbey Road...White Album has that ragged weary "end of the line" feel to it...but now I think its really cool that they got it back together to do Abbey Road, which to me sounds like a "the band is together" album. Didn;t realize. Abbey Road definately hit my 'hood first...but obviously thats not a gauge of the actual dates.. sheesh I was 9 or 10..not that aware. That was real over my head stuff at the time, tho fascinating. It was people's big brothers' music. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:10:34 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: "The Riches" (NJC) Has anyone begun watching this show on FX network on Mondays at 10? It stars Minnie Driver and a guy named Eddie Izzard (never had heard of him til now, apparently well known in UK?). The premise is they're gypsies or travelers (con men/women) who through a strange turn of events end up under assumed names in an upper middle class neighborhood with all the trappings of wealth. I think it is one of the best shows I've seen in the past few years, very well written and I think the whole idea is great, not to mention wonderful acting. On another note, can anyone explain the phenomenon that we have at least two shows (House, M.D. and now The Riches) which are played by British actors playing Americans? Are there Americans in Britain playing Brits?? (I doubt it!) And what kind of statement does that make about the quality of American actors? I'd love to discuss with someone because try as I might, I have not been able to convince too many people to watch the series, and since it's the first season it's not on DVD. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 11:51:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: "The Riches" (NJC) - --- Lindsay Moon wrote: > Has anyone begun watching this show on FX network on > Mondays at 10? It > stars Minnie Driver and a guy named Eddie Izzard > (never had heard of him til > now, apparently well known in UK?). I did see a write-up about it and I think I'll give it a try. Sounds interesting and let's face it, we're headed into the summer doldrums when the regular shows are on hiatus, but often new and interesting stuff comes along. Sigh. I never used to watch TV at all. Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:02:16 -0700 From: "Lindsay Moon" Subject: RE: "The Riches" (NJC) The only problem is that now they're 12 shows into it and coming in the middle is kind of impossible since of course there are 487 plot lines (a slight exaggeration). You can probably see them on podcasts or whatever those things are (*so* techie, I am). A few weeks ago they started re-running them and I tried to alert my friends, but only my brother-in-law watched a couple, said it was very good and I don't think has watched any since. They do have brief synopses on the website but not quite the same. Hope you can catch it from the beginning. Lindsay - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay [mailto:anima_rising@yahoo.ca] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 8:52 AM To: Lindsay Moon; joni list Subject: Re: "The Riches" (NJC) - --- Lindsay Moon wrote: > Has anyone begun watching this show on FX network on Mondays at 10? > It stars Minnie Driver and a guy named Eddie Izzard (never had heard > of him til now, apparently well known in UK?). I did see a write-up about it and I think I'll give it a try. Sounds interesting and let's face it, we're headed into the summer doldrums when the regular shows are on hiatus, but often new and interesting stuff comes along. Sigh. I never used to watch TV at all. Catherine Toronto - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:27:34 EDT From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? It's a good thing he never did any Joni covers. LOL http://www.ifilm.com/video/2424640 Jimmy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:55:23 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? That's some nasty $hit, Jimmy - that's the same clip that Michael Moore used in Fahrenheit 911. Ashcroft recorded an LP back in the 60's - like you say, thankfully NO Joni covers on it. Every once in a while I catch a break. Now for the REAL Attorney General debate: who is worse, Ashcroft or Gonzales? Bob NP: Tom Waits, "Tango 'Til They're Sore" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:22:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Susan Guzzi Subject: Re: "The Riches" (NJC) Hey Lindsay and Catherine and all ... I watch this show and have since the beginning ... My girlfriend really loves it. We hear it's not getting the ratings or that it's bad. But I think it's pretty good - and a little different premise. They call themselves "travelers" and mainstream people are referred to as "buffers." In my day and according to my old polish grandmother, she would warn us, "Look out the gypsies are coming!" I like the youngest son and how they let him for the most part be unlabeled gender-wise. I love the husband and wife ... rumor from someone is that Eddie Izzard really is an all out cross -dresser. But the show is well written and acted - it's on cable's FX - we were up just last night watching it. And Catherine I recommend it - there is sooo much junk on regular TV - its definitely a step up! With all the summer reruns and replacements coming on - you could do a lot worse. Still with summer coming on - step out and enjoy the real air and the real life before it's all gone! Just the other night my Meg complained there was nothing on TV. - So what, I said, we don't have to watch TV every night - we can just talk or read or go out in the yard and sit. She would rather read or work on her projects anyway. There was a time when I didn't watch it so much either. I think I would love to find a balance at least ......... And you can always listen to music.... or sing! Peace, Susan NPIMH - Summertime Lindsay Moon wrote: Has anyone begun watching this show on FX network on Mondays at 10? It stars Minnie Driver and a guy named Eddie Izzard (never had heard of him til now, apparently well known in UK?). The premise is they're gypsies or travelers (con men/women) who through a strange turn of events end up under assumed names in an upper middle class neighborhood with all the trappings of wealth. I think it is one of the best shows I've seen in the past few years, very well written and I think the whole idea is great, not to mention wonderful acting. On another note, can anyone explain the phenomenon that we have at least two shows (House, M.D. and now The Riches) which are played by British actors playing Americans? Are there Americans in Britain playing Brits?? (I doubt it!) And what kind of statement does that make about the quality of American actors? I'd love to discuss with someone because try as I might, I have not been able to convince too many people to watch the series, and since it's the first season it's not on DVD. Lindsay Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48516/*http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 hot CTA = Join Yahoo!'s user panel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:57:28 -0700 From: "L. Bruce Vaughn" Subject: Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? Jeez, Bob, that's about like asking what's worse, Cancer or .... Cancer? Right now Ashcroft probably has the edge there only because more time has passed and we know more of what Ashcroft did. I have a feeling we're only beginning to stratch the surface of what we DON'T know yet about Gonzales. They're both lying sacks of sheep shit... Damn, I've heard some people make albums they never should have, but after hearing this one I think it moves right up the the top of the list with William Shatner and Terry Bradshaw. Ouch! Bruce >That's some nasty $hit, Jimmy - that's the same clip that Michael Moore >used in Fahrenheit 911. Ashcroft recorded an LP back in the 60's - like >you say, thankfully NO Joni covers on it. Every once in a while I catch a >break. > >Now for the REAL Attorney General debate: who is worse, Ashcroft or >Gonzales? > >Bob > >NP: Tom Waits, "Tango 'Til They're Sore" >------------------------------------------------------------ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > >Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:52:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: RE: "The Riches" (NJC) - --- Lindsay Moon wrote: > The only problem is that now they're 12 shows into > it and coming in the > middle is kind of impossible since of course there > are 487 plot lines (a > slight exaggeration). You can probably see them on > podcasts or whatever > those things are (*so* techie, I am). A few weeks > ago they started > re-running them and I tried to alert my friends, but > only my brother-in-law > watched a couple, said it was very good and I don't > think has watched any > since. They do have brief synopses on the website > but not quite the same. > > Hope you can catch it from the beginning. > > Lindsay > I think it's just starting here - tonight, in fact. And you can probably find them on Youtube! Catherine Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:39:23 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? - ----- Original Message ----- From: > It's a good thing he never did any Joni covers. LOL > > http://www.ifilm.com/video/2424640 > There is no Higher Power that cruel. - --AJ, who lives in a state with a senator who also thinks he can sing ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:40:45 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Now for the REAL Attorney General debate: who is worse, Ashcroft or > Gonzales? > > Bob This is the desperate low we have reached in this country: Gonzales is worse. - --AJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:52:31 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Cambridge in May njc Sitting outside Tavern in the Square in Cambridge. Found a couple of cool Grateful Dead books at the used bookstore next door and also met a girl who's flying to Atlanta tomorrow, where I just came from...what a small world! Smurph is seems to be slowly recovering from his surgery although we were walking to the North Station today and he tripped on the sidewalk and messed up his right foot something good...poor Smurph!!! He was going to get it checked out. I'll be gettting an update later this evening. Yikes! Gonna catch the Red Sox game at the sports bar at 7ish. The weather is gorgeous. Victor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 18:52:25 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Re: beatles question NJC It sounds like someone ripped their Beatles collection to mp3s to a DVD. Maybe your computer won't play DVDs; try it in your DVD player. I hope you had better luck than I did with moving music from your old hard drive. Almost everything I bought and moved to the new computer is taking up space but it's not playable- copy protection rights disallow it. All of this confusion is avoidable- buy CDs. I'm starting to sound like a br... I'm repeating myself. "Rubber Soul", "Sgt. Pepper", the white album, and the "Hey Jude" collection are a fine start. I'll bet there's more on "Revolver" that you remember than not. Jim L. From: "AJ" > Tell you the truth I just today opened a CD someone gave > my husband which has every, I mean EVERY, Beatles album > on it. Not sure it's downloadable though, since my regular > Windows screen doesn't come up when I load it into the > CD slot. > > Look, I'm not completely lame; I know Rubber Soul by heart > and have since I was 11 years old; "While My Guitar Gently > Weeps" is one of my favorite songs ever; I love "A Day > in the Life;" I know Sgt Pepper really well. As well as > Long and Winding Road, Hey Jude, etc. There are just > a few gaps in my Beatles knowledge! > > I've spent the last several hours moving the music on my > computer to an external hard drive, which involved numerous > calls to tech support at CDW, as well as completely > reformatting my Shuffle (thank goodness I didn't do The > Bad Thing to my Nano, which has a lot more music on it). > > I am tard, as Loretta Lynn would say. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 19:10:21 -0500 From: "AJ" Subject: Fw: beatles question NJC My computer will play DVDs; however when I put it in the slot for CDs or DVDs it just comes up. This CD was given to my husband by a colleague from South America! Fortunately the vast majority of my music is ripped from CDs I bought. Turns out the instructions from CDW (where both my computer and the external drive came from) told me to do something in the wrong order: a guy in my husband's firm told me how to fix it. But that shall wait for later. I do remember a lot of the songs on Revolver. This is probably dumb and naive but when I switched from a Rio MP3 to an IPod ITunes wouldn't accept the songs I'd bought from Rhapsody. I burned them to CDs then was able to put them on ITunes. I think I'll listen to a lot of the Beatles albums then decide which ones to buy. And if in fact they have reached an accord with ITunes maybe I can download them. - --AJ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" To: "AJ" ; "Victor Johnson" Cc: "jmdl" Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Re: beatles question NJC > It sounds like someone ripped their Beatles collection to mp3s to a DVD. > Maybe your computer won't play DVDs; try it in your DVD player. > > I hope you had better luck than I did with moving music from your old hard > drive. Almost everything I bought and moved to the new computer is taking > up space but it's not playable- copy protection rights disallow it. All > of this confusion is avoidable- buy CDs. I'm starting to sound like a > br... I'm repeating myself. > > "Rubber Soul", "Sgt. Pepper", the white album, and the "Hey Jude" > collection are a fine start. I'll bet there's more on "Revolver" that you > remember than not. > > Jim L. > > From: "AJ" >> Tell you the truth I just today opened a CD someone gave >> my husband which has every, I mean EVERY, Beatles album >> on it. Not sure it's downloadable though, since my regular >> Windows screen doesn't come up when I load it into the >> CD slot. >> >> Look, I'm not completely lame; I know Rubber Soul by heart >> and have since I was 11 years old; "While My Guitar Gently >> Weeps" is one of my favorite songs ever; I love "A Day >> in the Life;" I know Sgt Pepper really well. As well as >> Long and Winding Road, Hey Jude, etc. There are just >> a few gaps in my Beatles knowledge! >> >> I've spent the last several hours moving the music on my >> computer to an external hard drive, which involved numerous >> calls to tech support at CDW, as well as completely >> reformatting my Shuffle (thank goodness I didn't do The >> Bad Thing to my Nano, which has a lot more music on it). >> >> I am tard, as Loretta Lynn would say. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:18:11 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: NJC John Ashcroft sings??? lol-what do they say? 'Politics is showbiz for the ugly' ? Ashcroft is also a songwriter, and if memory serves, made all his staff sing one of his songs at the beginning of each workday. Cruel and unmusical punishment, I'd say. RR > It's a good thing he never did any Joni covers. LOL > > http://www.ifilm.com/video/2424640 > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:42:42 -0600 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Why Joni Mitchell Could Never Be An 'American Idol' Check out this Kelly Clarkson News article http://www.celebritypro.com/news/kelly_clarkson/May07feed/Why_Joni_Mitchell_Could_Never_Be_An_American_Idol.rss.htm or http://ypulse.com/archives/2007/05/why_joni_mitche.php I love Joni Mitchell -- her songs are poetry, and the perfect soundtrack to a rainy day when you're curled up with a great book and cup of hot tea or driving down the northern california coast on a sunny day with the windows open. By today's standards, Joni probably wouldn't have made the final cut on "American Idol." She wouldn't have gotten nearly as many endorsements as Beyonce (not that she would have wanted them). And she wouldn't have made a sexy music video like Shakira or posed topless for Blender like Avril Lavigne. According to this AP story, having "it" all for women in music means talent and looks. From the article: Today, it's hard to find a singer larger than a size 6 and without a sexy look -- all of which are played up with sensuous videos, modeling spreads and magazine covers. Lavigne, who once scoffed at singers who stripped for the cameras, fronts the new issue of Blender topless save for a strategically placed banner that reads "Hell Yeah, I'm, Hot!'" The hit reality show Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll is a striking example. In finding a replacement for current lead doll, stunner Nicole Scherzinger, the judging panel -- which included the cosmetically enhanced rapper Lil' Kim -- did talk about vocal qualities. But while a few contestants had strong voices, all were taut, toned and sexy, and the focus was more on their dancing and overall desirability. Even singers who are heralded for talent are gorgeous, like Alicia Keys, Corinne Bailey Rae or Norah Jones. The article goes on to ask: Where are the Patsy Clines of today? More often than not on smaller, underground labels, which put more of a premium on talent. Gerson said small labels may be the best path to success for a woman who doesn't look like a Barbie doll. Even American Idol Kelly Clarkson has been getting lots of blowback for putting on weight and was given a hard time by her label about her new album, which they said was too dark. Amy Winehouse seems to be an exception (I think she's georgeous but in a very non-conventional way). I also wonder if this issue has affected Pink's success...This story just bummed me out. Posted by anastasia Laura NJC - below Get a FREE flourescent bulb Go to: http://better.yahoo.com/planet/ Click on 'Raise Your Hand' and take the pledge to help the planet by being more 'green' conscious. If you have a Yahoo account...sign in.....if not, you will have to register. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:15:20 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Why Joni Mitchell Could Never Be An 'American Idol' I have a shorter answer: she writes her own songs. I find American Idol dreadful. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of est86mlm@ameritech.net Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:43 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Why Joni Mitchell Could Never Be An 'American Idol' Check out this Kelly Clarkson News article http://www.celebritypro.com/news/kelly_clarkson/May07feed/Why_Joni_Mitchell_ Could_Never_Be_An_American_Idol.rss.htm or http://ypulse.com/archives/2007/05/why_joni_mitche.php I love Joni Mitchell -- her songs are poetry, and the perfect soundtrack to a rainy day when you're curled up with a great book and cup of hot tea or driving down the northern california coast on a sunny day with the windows open. By today's standards, Joni probably wouldn't have made the final cut on "American Idol." She wouldn't have gotten nearly as many endorsements as Beyonce (not that she would have wanted them). And she wouldn't have made a sexy music video like Shakira or posed topless for Blender like Avril Lavigne. According to this AP story, having "it" all for women in music means talent and looks. From the article: Today, it's hard to find a singer larger than a size 6 and without a sexy look -- all of which are played up with sensuous videos, modeling spreads and magazine covers. Lavigne, who once scoffed at singers who stripped for the cameras, fronts the new issue of Blender topless save for a strategically placed banner that reads "Hell Yeah, I'm, Hot!'" The hit reality show Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll is a striking example. In finding a replacement for current lead doll, stunner Nicole Scherzinger, the judging panel -- which included the cosmetically enhanced rapper Lil' Kim -- did talk about vocal qualities. But while a few contestants had strong voices, all were taut, toned and sexy, and the focus was more on their dancing and overall desirability. Even singers who are heralded for talent are gorgeous, like Alicia Keys, Corinne Bailey Rae or Norah Jones. The article goes on to ask: Where are the Patsy Clines of today? More often than not on smaller, underground labels, which put more of a premium on talent. Gerson said small labels may be the best path to success for a woman who doesn't look like a Barbie doll. Even American Idol Kelly Clarkson has been getting lots of blowback for putting on weight and was given a hard time by her label about her new album, which they said was too dark. Amy Winehouse seems to be an exception (I think she's georgeous but in a very non-conventional way). I also wonder if this issue has affected Pink's success...This story just bummed me out. Posted by anastasia Laura NJC - below Get a FREE flourescent bulb Go to: http://better.yahoo.com/planet/ Click on 'Raise Your Hand' and take the pledge to help the planet by being more 'green' conscious. If you have a Yahoo account...sign in.....if not, you will have to register. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:48:30 -0400 From: "Vince Lavieri" Subject: a Joni mention you may have this already, sorry if this is old news New Yorker, may 14 2007 article "Struts and frets" about guitar maker Ken parker Joni is a customer and is cited in the article and has a quote - Parker made a guitar that Joni liked and everyone else (ie Keith Richard) thought was strange. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:14:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Subject: Re: Joni's Top Ten Duds - --- Richard Flynn wrote: > In no particular order: > > Raised on Robbery Richard, what about that song makes it such a dud for you? Maybe you need to hear another version. For the past couple of months I've been listening to the 1979 Forest Hills concert that Randy remastered and now I can hear the words on all the songs, especially this one. "Along comes a lady in lacy sleeves" was always to me "along comes a lady in hey see seas." (I figured it was a Canadian thing.) I'm now hearing it as a short story put to a lively tune, with a little honky-tonk piano thrown in. It sounds great on this recording! (Thanks Randy!!!) Who is this raised on robbery woman? I don't remember any discussion about her. I used to think she was a prostitute but she doesn't seem very businesslike. Now I'm thinking she's a traveler, a con artist, like the people in the new tv show. I wonder how she relates to Joni. Any ideas anyone? > Orchestral version of BSN (except when accompanying > Emma Thompson's acting) > Orchestral version of Case of You > Tax Free > Lakota > Facelift > Ladies' Man > Man to Man > Dancin' Clown > Not to Blame > Taming the Tiger I don't have strong feelings about any of these songs. But I do like the phrase "happiness is the best facelift." How true. And I like the song too. The only Joni song I consider a dud is "Underneath the Streetlight." She must have been crazed by love or something else when she came up with that one. It's the only Joni song I can think of where she boringly repeats the same phrase. Okay, so it's a nice phrase - -- "yes I do I love you" -- but over and over and over? Enough already. And why is she yelling it underneath a streetlight anyway? The only song I never want to hear, but am not sure it's a dud, is "Talk to Me." That's like nails on a chalkboard. Ouch. So my tally is a few blahs, one dud, and one "that's awful." Everything else is still impressive. Not bad for a decades-long career. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 00:00:34 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Why Joni Mitchell Could Never Be An 'American Idol' I was going to say: A) Because she actually has talent? (No offense to Kelly Clarkson who I don't mind [don't like her music but have no problem with]. I don't watch the show myself but my brother does and so I hear clips here and there and Lord have mercy on my ears sometimes! B) Because she is not a minion like the rest of them? No way in hell anyone would tell Joni what to sing and she'd do it. C) As mentioned, she's a songwriter. She's not about the flash. And the Beyonces and the Avril's and all of them will come and go. They may dazzle the 12 year olds of today but those 12 year olds will grow up and move on. In fact, I'm embarrassed to be around the same age, if not the same age, as Avril Lavigne. Their names, let alone their music, will not be remembered. Joni's got it set in stone....and it shall only grow..... - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 00:03:41 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: Joni's Top Ten Duds The only song I never want to hear, but am not sure it's a dud, is "Talk to Me." That's like nails on a chalkboard. Ouch. - -------------------------- Oh, I love that song! I just love everything about it. Ah well, to each his own. - -Monika ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 00:17:24 EDT From: Motitan@aol.com Subject: Re: LOTC Like I said, this is my least favorite Joni album but I still do like it. I remember driving somewhere one day and getting an image in my head while listening to this album. I recall thinking this album, LOTC, would be a GREAT album to listen to in a log cabin....somewhere in the middle of the woods.....sipping hot chocolate.....before the fire....with that nice & goodlooking special someone........you know, the album just playing in the background. I don't know. Sometimes I get these weird images in my head when listening to albums depending on the tone of them. It just has this certain feel about it. Can't really say what it is. - -Monika NP: I Heard It Through The Grapevine- Marvin Gaye ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 21:29:06 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Misc Music News njc Tomorrow (Thurs) night Vh-1 will air Vh-1 Honors featuring Heart, Genesis, ZZ Top, Ozzy Osbourne, Gretchen Wilson, Alice In Chains and Robin Williams. 9 PM Eastern. Pink Floyd founder Syd Barrett, who passed on last year was not the welfare case some might have thought he was... Turns out he had about 3 million bucks, which is being dispersed to his relatives right about now. Sirius Satellite Radio is launching a Grateful Dead channel featuring recordings from the band's achives, unreleased songs, and shows hosted by band members. Meanwhile, The Dead are releasing "Three From The Vault", a '71 show from Port Chester, New York. Bo Diddley, 78, is recovering from a stroke he suffered following two casino shows in Iowa. Eric Clapton and Stevie Winwood performed several of their old Blind Faith songs at a Winwood gig in the UK, for the first time since forever. Rumour is they will play together again at the Chicago Crossroads Festival this summer. "I don't wanna be yelled at; I wanna be sung to. I never really understood why someone would want to have some gangster from L.A. poking his fingers in your face." - Keith Richards, who is reportedly receiving $5 million for his autobiography, on why he doesn't dig no rap. Smashing Pumpkins will play a 10 day residency at San Francisco's Fillmore Auditorium in July in support of their July 10 reunion CD. The single, "Tarantula" is out now. Who singer Roger Daltry thinks Al Gore's worldwide mega- concert Live Earth is a bad idea because jetting all those rock stars all over the place defeats the purpose of stopping greenhouse gasses. Daltry's solution: "..burn all the f**cking oil as quick as possible and then the politicians will have to find a solution." Huh? Bob Geldof has also criticised the event because everyone is already aware of global warming, and for copping the name from Live 8. 10,000 Starbucks in 29 countries will be playing Paul McCartney's new album (on the Starbucks label) for a full day on June 5th. They figure 6 million people will hear it. And some, they further figure, will buy it. The Doors will release a 3 CD set featuring two Boston shows from their final tour. A very boozed up Jim Morrison is master of ceremonies. Seat belts, everyone. Tom Petty, the coffee table book will be out in time for Xmas. The two CDs by the Traveling Wilburys have long been out of print, but Rhino is releasing them as a set with a DVD on June 12. Hopefully the CDs will be released individually at some point, too. San Francisco's iconic radio station KFRC will return to the airwaves with a classic rock formula. KFRC ruled the top-40 AM band in the 60's and went through many format changes over the years before being retired. Now owned by CBS Corp. who own several other large rock stations in the city. Oh, we have a new American Idol who will pour her 17 years of life experience into her music. Forgot her name already. Jordan something, I think. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 21:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Debra Subject: Re: Joni's Top Ten Duds - --- Motitan@aol.com wrote: > The only song I never want to hear, but am not sure > it's a dud, is "Talk to Me." That's like nails on a > chalkboard. Ouch. > -------------------------- > Oh, I love that song! I just love everything about > it. Ah well, to each > his own. Interesting, isn't it? Music is obviously not just a bunch of notes. I don't like hearing Joni or any woman begging for attention as she does in that song. But other people don't hear it that way. Yep, to each her own. Debra Shea ____________________________________________________________________________________Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 21:33:27 -0700 From: "Kate Bennett" Subject: Lord Jim's - Joni B.C. content Great idea, affordable on the off season & they even allow pets! Let's go! Love the blurb - "In our unique Sunshine Coast Accommodations, you may find what you have always searched for; the cove has a history of secrets. It is said that in the deepest silences, we hear the most. Great truths, great loves, great mysteries are revealed. Perhaps the secret awaits you here." >The new place is very affordable. Maybe we should have some kind of fest event there. Here is the link. http://www.rockwatersecretcoveresort.com/ Kakki< ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2007 #205 ***************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here: mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe -------